Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
Oh no - I won't be going back to him. Too many other vets in the area. The humane society has several other vets that we use so I don't have to go back to him. He's not even the cheapest vet, although his clinic does give us a good discount. I've got some friends who are vet techs that can give her fluids if necessary. I'm going to be getting some of that new drug to treat FIP. Course I'm not 100% sure it's FIP because we only did one of several test. I guess there's other diseases that can mimic the dry form of FIP. I just feel sure it's FIP though. The newer drug is an immune stimulant so it's not going to hurt to try it anyway. I'm comtemplating taking her to another vet to rule out the diseases that mimic FIP. If I had a money tree in my back yard it would make the decision easy. Seems like I read that toxoplasmosis can mimic some of the symptoms of the dry form of FIP. I should call and check out the costs of whatever test they do to check for that. Course I know this new drug is not likely to help if it's FIP because she's got FeLV too. Both diseases combined make her chances of survival very slim. But I'll have the peace of mind knowing I tried. She's still eating although it's only a little at a time. I bought her some of that nutri-cal to give her extra calories. I can tell she feels better since the fever came down. I'm just spending as much time as I can with her and giving her lots of canned food and some chicken and other extra treats. If it's the end for her we'll just make sure she goes out with a bang. Thanks for your good wishes. Since my dog died in October I'm just not ready for another death. But I don't have a say in these matters. Kind of wish I had stayed with dogs. Fostering them would have been more work but cats get so many infectious diseases that you're constantly having your heart broken. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 08:06:52 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Wow! I'm so very sorry the vet treated you and your kitty that way. I totally agree with your statement. He should have let you decide if you wanted to spend the money!! Are you thinking about taking her somewhere else next time she needs fluids, etc? I hope her fever does not return so she can feel well enough to enjoy herself. Thank goodness she has you to take care of her and to feel your love. Bless your heart, Maureen!! Lynda - Original Message - From: Maureen Olvey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:36 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? He's not even a shelter vet. He doesn't volunteer with us. He just was trying to tell us how to spend our money. I know he's just being logical about spending a lot of our money on a dying cat, but at the same time I couldn't believe he didn't even care about her fever. But without anything but a quick physical exam he wasn't sure it was FeLV related he just assumed it was. He just basically said its a FeLV kitten and she's going to die anyway so don't waste money on her. I'm still pissed. Yes I know FeLV kills a majority of kittens that have it but it doesn't mean you don't at least try to help them. He should have at least wanted to see if what was wrong with her had anything that could be treated and then let us know the cost and let us decide whether we wanted to spend money on her. Maureen “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 21:42:06 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Darn those shelter vets! It sure is hard to find a good one these days!! I'm so sorry that you are dealing with all of this and that the poor kitty can't get a vet that cares. Bless your heart for paying for tests out of your pocket. I do hope that she makes it and is not suffering. Glad to hear though that she is eating treats and getting your love. I know you are doing everything possible and I bet somehow, she knows that :) I hope she gets better, I really do. Thanks for the update! Lynda ___
Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
I responded to this last night, but forgot to erase all the mail attached and it was not deliverable - too large. The clot was more likely in the artery that branches to each hind leg, makes them unable to move them. I've had many cats with this condition, always happened at night, weekend, when my vet wasn't available. Each time, the cat was euthanized at an emergency clinic - some screamed in pain, others didn't. The last one was found in one of our large cat condos for feral/semi feral cats a few years ago in the morning, not able to move. Corgi was feral cat and I had to throw a towel over him to catch him - he pulled himself around by front legs. My vet dissolved his clot, after being confined in a small area for recuperation about a month, I was able to introduce him to a sweet group of cats - now he is the most lovable, affectionate cat, all cats adore him. He has a slight limp on one hind leg, but that's all. Natalie Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? My Shadow was not FELv, he had a blood clot on his spine. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Virgil Please Add to the CLS :(
Last monday march 23,former Sids kid Virgil left this world. He had a home for a short time with one of our wonderful volunteers. He was a sweet character with a flat black face and always had something to say to usVirgy Wirgy you will be missed :( Sherry We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
One of my Felk kittens, Orphie has dry form of FIP and using the experimental drug PI - we are seeing some success treating dry from of FIP with this drug - pls let me know if I can do any to help. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org From: molvey...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 22:34:26 -0400 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Yeah, got some updates but I'm too tired to explain. I'll write back in the morning. It does look like it's the dry form of FIP. Getting an experimental drug to try. Anyway, more later. Thanks for asking. Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT - Reply message - From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Date: Tue, May 1, 2012 9:44 pm Maureen, How is she today? Any updates? Best wishes! Lynda - Original Message - From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? My Shadow was not FELv, he had a blood clot on his spine. I let him out one morning and when i wnet to check on all of my cats, he could not get up. He had been on the deck and the sun got hot, so he had drug himself into the shade. When I tried to pick him up, he screamed. We took him to Missouri Universtiy Vet hosp about 3 hours away. They did and MRI and all kinds of tests. We finally let him go because he was so old and would not have been able to make it thru surgery. Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
I hated to but was just about to reply suggesting that as a possibility as wellI am so sorry that you are dealing with FELV let alone having to consider FIP. We lost the kitty we consider our first real rescue (adopted out to a friend) to FIP, she was the happiest, healthiest seeming kitty you could imagine, it broke our hearts for sure. Thank you for loving this little girl, please keep us posted. There is a FIP group, I am on it, here is a link: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/FIP/ Please know that many thoughts are with you! Heather On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 8:08 AM, molvey...@hotmail.com molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: I hate to say it but I have a feeling it's FIP. I read a lot about it last night and she has a lot of the symptoms of the dry form. I'll give a few more details later. It breaks my heart. Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT - Reply message - From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Date: Sat, Apr 28, 2012 5:35 pm I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs. Lorrie On 04-28, molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: I have a FeLV kitten that I'm fostering. She's six or seven months old. She's the one I emailed about a couple months ago with uveitis. The uveitis never has completely cleared up. But now I'm not sure what's going on. Her back legs are kind of wobbly. It's not bad enough that my husband has noticed yet, but I can see it. It's like she's slightly drunk. She's walking okay with the front legs but her back legs give way a little or something when she's walking. She's eating and going to the bathroom. She doesn't run around and play as much as the other cats do, but never really has. She's just a real mellow and loving kitten and I just thought that must be why she's not as playful. I'm not sure though. She's not growing a lot too. The other kitten her age, not related, has grown much faster than she has. So any ideas? Why do you guys think she's started getting wobbly in the back legs. She can still jump on things but not as sure-footed as the others. I don't know if her muscles are getting weak or if she's anemic or what. A couple months ago her bloodwork at the vet's office was okay. I assume this is FeLV related but before I go to the vet I'd like to be prepared and have some ideas of what's going on. Maureen ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
That's encouraging to hear. I'll get my PI tomorrow and will start her on it right away. I really hope it helps and buys her a little more time. If it doesn't at least I tried my best and that will help a little when it's time to let her go. It's still going to hurt though. She is the sweetest thing. She's in my lap right now. She must know I'm talking about her. Are you using prednisolone too or just the PI? Dr. Legendre didn't think I should unless absolutely necessary, like to get her to eat. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: hideyo.yamam...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 16:09:27 -0600 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? One of my Felk kittens, Orphie has dry form of FIP and using the experimental drug PI - we are seeing some success treating dry from of FIP with this drug - pls let me know if I can do any to help. To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org From: molvey...@hotmail.com Date: Tue, 1 May 2012 22:34:26 -0400 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Yeah, got some updates but I'm too tired to explain. I'll write back in the morning. It does look like it's the dry form of FIP. Getting an experimental drug to try. Anyway, more later. Thanks for asking. Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT - Reply message - From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Date: Tue, May 1, 2012 9:44 pm Maureen, How is she today? Any updates? Best wishes! Lynda - Original Message - From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2012 8:23 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? My Shadow was not FELv, he had a blood clot on his spine. I let him out one morning and when i wnet to check on all of my cats, he could not get up. He had been on the deck and the sun got hot, so he had drug himself into the shade. When I tried to pick him up, he screamed. We took him to Missouri Universtiy Vet hosp about 3 hours away. They did and MRI and all kinds of tests. We finally let him go because he was so old and would not have been able to make it thru surgery. Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs. Lorrie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
Thank you so much for your good thoughts. Several years ago I lost a feral that I fed to FIP. It was the wet form so it was easy to diagnose. It broke my heart then too and he didn't even live with me. But he got so weak that I was able to love on him and when they euthanized him I was holding him. That was my first experience with this stupid disease. I joined an FIP group yesterday but haven't even had time to post or look through the files very much. I might join the group you're in too. These groups are so helpful and I've learned so much. Unfortunately I've learned more than I ever wanted to experience, if you know what I mean. I wish I didn't have a reason to read up on FIP. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 18:23:08 -0400 From: furrygi...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? I hated to but was just about to reply suggesting that as a possibility as wellI am so sorry that you are dealing with FELV let alone having to consider FIP. We lost the kitty we consider our first real rescue (adopted out to a friend) to FIP, she was the happiest, healthiest seeming kitty you could imagine, it broke our hearts for sure. Thank you for loving this little girl, please keep us posted. There is a FIP group, I am on it, here is a link: http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/FIP/ Please know that many thoughts are with you! Heather On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 8:08 AM, molvey...@hotmail.com molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: I hate to say it but I have a feeling it's FIP. I read a lot about it last night and she has a lot of the symptoms of the dry form. I'll give a few more details later. It breaks my heart. Sent from my HTC Inspire™ 4G on ATT - Reply message - From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Date: Sat, Apr 28, 2012 5:35 pm I've had several FelV positive kittens who have been exactly like this..Less playful than others their age, and finally wobbly in the back legs then complete loss of the use of the back legs. Lorrie On 04-28, molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: I have a FeLV kitten that I'm fostering. She's six or seven months old. She's the one I emailed about a couple months ago with uveitis. The uveitis never has completely cleared up. But now I'm not sure what's going on. Her back legs are kind of wobbly. It's not bad enough that my husband has noticed yet, but I can see it. It's like she's slightly drunk. She's walking okay with the front legs but her back legs give way a little or something when she's walking. She's eating and going to the bathroom. She doesn't run around and play as much as the other cats do, but never really has. She's just a real mellow and loving kitten and I just thought that must be why she's not as playful. I'm not sure though. She's not growing a lot too. The other kitten her age, not related, has grown much faster than she has. So any ideas? Why do you guys think she's started getting wobbly in the back legs. She can still jump on things but not as sure-footed as the others. I don't know if her muscles are getting weak or if she's anemic or what. A couple months ago her bloodwork at the vet's office was okay. I assume this is FeLV related but before I go to the vet I'd like to be prepared and have some ideas of what's going on. Maureen ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?
Once again, I am so glad I have my vet. He tells me the different courses of treatment and then it is up to me to choose. Plus, he really cares about his patients. Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: Oh no - I won't be going back to him. Too many other vets in the area. The humane society has several other vets that we use so I don't have to go back to him. He's not even the cheapest vet, although his clinic does give us a good discount. I've got some friends who are vet techs that can give her fluids if necessary. I'm going to be getting some of that new drug to treat FIP. Course I'm not 100% sure it's FIP because we only did one of several test. I guess there's other diseases that can mimic the dry form of FIP. I just feel sure it's FIP though. The newer drug is an immune stimulant so it's not going to hurt to try it anyway. I'm comtemplating taking her to another vet to rule out the diseases that mimic FIP. If I had a money tree in my back yard it would make the decision easy. Seems like I read that toxoplasmosis can mimic some of the symptoms of the dry form of FIP. I should call and check out the costs of whatever test they do to check for that. Course I know this new drug is not likely to help if it's FIP because she's got FeLV too. Both diseases combined make her chances of survival very slim. But I'll have the peace of mind knowing I tried. She's still eating although it's only a little at a time. I bought her some of that nutri-cal to give her extra calories. I can tell she feels better since the fever came down. I'm just spending as much time as I can with her and giving her lots of canned food and some chicken and other extra treats. If it's the end for her we'll just make sure she goes out with a bang. Thanks for your good wishes. Since my dog died in October I'm just not ready for another death. But I don't have a say in these matters. Kind of wish I had stayed with dogs. Fostering them would have been more work but cats get so many infectious diseases that you're constantly having your heart broken. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 3 May 2012 08:06:52 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Wow! I'm so very sorry the vet treated you and your kitty that way. I totally agree with your statement. He should have let you decide if you wanted to spend the money!! Are you thinking about taking her somewhere else next time she needs fluids, etc? I hope her fever does not return so she can feel well enough to enjoy herself. Thank goodness she has you to take care of her and to feel your love. Bless your heart, Maureen!! Lynda - Original Message - From: Maureen Olvey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2012 11:36 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? He's not even a shelter vet. He doesn't volunteer with us. He just was trying to tell us how to spend our money. I know he's just being logical about spending a lot of our money on a dying cat, but at the same time I couldn't believe he didn't even care about her fever. But without anything but a quick physical exam he wasn't sure it was FeLV related he just assumed it was. He just basically said its a FeLV kitten and she's going to die anyway so don't waste money on her. I'm still pissed. Yes I know FeLV kills a majority of kittens that have it but it doesn't mean you don't at least try to help them. He should have at least wanted to see if what was wrong with her had anything that could be treated and then let us know the cost and let us decide whether we wanted to spend money on her. Maureen “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wed, 2 May 2012 21:42:06 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be? Darn those shelter vets! It sure is hard to find a good one these days!! I'm so sorry that you are dealing with all of this and that the poor kitty can't get a vet that cares. Bless your heart for paying for tests out of your pocket. I do hope that she makes it and is not suffering. Glad to
