Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Fostering (Beth)
I only have 3 cats of my own left. 2 are quite old 1 is FeLV positive. I do not take in more FeLV fosters unless one passes away. I do not take FeLV cats from individuals unless they agree that it is still their cat, just living at my house. I will not be responsible for vet bills or food expenses. It is tough turning people down, but I have to have a sane life do not want to get overwhelmed. I prefer to educate people that they can mix their cats keep the FeLV's. That being said, I recently agreed to take an FeLV from a lady who volunteers at our shelter who I have known for years. The cat no more than got to my house it is clear he has medical issues she is not returning my calls or emails. This may mark the end of me taking in any FeLV's from individuals, period. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Fostering (Beth) I had three FeLv+ cats throw it off. They all three were adults. Bunny was the youngest. She tested positive when she was spayed at a shelter. They would usually euthanize them but for some reason she slipped through the cracks, I am pleased to say and the rescuer brought her to me knowing that I would keep her or find a place for her if she did not turn. But she turned. Right now she's annoying two other cats in my computer room. She sleeps with me at night, and is a joyous cat. I would like to find her another home though because I just have too many and can't give her enough attention. My oldest cat, Moses threw it off i about 7 years ago. Percy had both FeLv and FIV. He threw off the FeLv and is now in my FIV room. I have a 5 months old FeLv+ kitten in foster care trying to turn negative. I hope she does. Taco and Smooch, two other FeLv+ cats who were brought to me as strays and tested positive passed away in two years. But at least they had those two years extra and weren't deprived of their short lives. I have chosen the wrong calling though. I'm much too emotional to be able to cope with this. Unfortunately I have no choice. I live from one emotional disaster to another these days because my feline family is approaching the older years. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Fostering (Beth) No, I have never seen one throw the virus off. I think fostering the FeLV cats is probably easier than fostering healthy cats, actually. I have done that plenty of times, too. At least I don't have to deal with constantly getting attached to cats only to have them adopted out I don't have to deal with kittens, which can be so much work. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Fostering (Beth) Beth I didn't know you fostered FelV cats. Have you had any who eventually threw off the virus? All of the kittens I've taken in as FelV positive, who must have acquired the virus from their mother, have died within two years. However, from one litter of FelV kittens I have an male who is now 4 years old, and he was the only one in his litter who did NOT test positive when I took them in, and I later tested him and he was still negative. I really admire you for fostering FelV cats. It can be heartbreaking when they become sick and die. I've had three PTS since October. They would have been a year old in May. One from this same litter is still fine, or seems to be. I will retest her soon. Lorrie On 04-23, Beth wrote: Chris - I would search the archives on mixing. A lot of us mix our positive non-positive, vaccinated cats. I have done it for over 10 years with no transmission of the virus to my healthy cats. I even have had FIV cats mix with the FeLV cats with no problems. And, yes, I do retest my negatives. It becomes a little difficult when you foster healthy cats for a shelter. I only foster FeLV cats these days. The shelter would not allow me to foster both positives negative, even if they were separated. Beth ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list
[Felvtalk] FeLV vaccines, Conventional killed) FeLV vs rFelv (recombinant)
Sharyl wrote; The protocol I was given is 1st vaccine followed by booster shot in 30 days Give the 2nd vaccine 30 days before mixing positives and negatives Follow up every 12 months with a booster shot ? I wasn't aware there was more than 1 type of vaccine Sharyl Hi Sharyl, There are two types of FeLV vaccines available. The most commonly used is an adjuvanted, killed vaccine. They include; Fel-O-Vax LV-K By Boehringer Ingelheim (formerly Fort Dodge). This killed virus leukemia vaccine is given subcutaneously or intramuscularly. For cats 10 weeks of age and older. Leukocell 2 by Pfizer Animal Health. Killed feline leukemia virus. Given subcutaneously. For cats 9 weeks of age or older. Boxes of 50 doses (2 doses needed for initial immunity). Nobivac® FeLV For the vaccination of healthy cats as an aid in the prevention of disease associated with feline leukemia virus infection. Formerly known as Fevaxyn® FeLv I'm sure there are others, as well. Then there is a non-adjuvanted recombinant (modifed live) injectable FeLV vaccine which is very new, made by Merial. This is much less likely to cause FISS/VAS than the adjuvanted vaccines. The cat I am most concerned in vaccinating has already lost one leg, so I need to choose this vaccine, as he cannot lose another. The trouble has been finding it. Here's an explanation; https://www.navta.net/press/new-molecular-technology-provides-improved-potency HTH, Margo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] seeking advice for treating FeLV positive old CKD cats with the new drugs
Dear Felvalk friends, I am very new to this group and was hoping to get some advice for the treatment about my currently very sick cat. My cat is 16 years old, who came to the States with me 6 years ago. I got her when she was 7 (she was abandoned by the previous house owner...) After I got her, she was tested twice negative for FeLV and vaccinated for four years. From then she has been a totally indoor cat. I later adopted another cat, who was also tested negative twice and vaccinated for three years. From then on, since they have been complete indoor apartment cats with no exposure to other cats and the little one always got some reaction to the vaccine, we stopped vaccinating them for FeLV. Last Friday, my 16 years old cat was getting weak, my husband and I rushed her to the ER and were told that she was in sever anemia (pcv less than 10%) due to her chronic kidney disease. Two blood transfusions has been done, but her response to blood transfusions was poor. Doctors then concerned that not only her red blood cell count is low, her white blood cell count is also very low. So the doctors ran the FeLV test again on Tuesday, and it came back positive (!!) (we also rushed our younger one for test yesterday; but he stays negative, and we added a booster vaccine on him). We are getting our 16 years old back tonight. Doctors implicitly has mentioned that FeLV has no cure, plus her Kidney situation (late stage CKD), she may not live long... we were also suggested to consider putting her into sleep soon. But I luckily found last night there is this emailist, and on the website there are several drugs listed for possible treatment plans: ImmunoRegulin, Acemannan, Interferon Alpha etc. Do anyone in this emaillist have experience about treatment on old FeLV cat with CKD by using these new drugs? If yes, may I learn your experience? I really don't want to lose my girl in this way.I am getting my degree soon, and do hope at least I can have her come back to my home country with me... Sorry for such a long email, and thank you very much! I. Catherine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Fostering (Beth)
Been there, done that. Most of the FeLv cats I have taken were from a rescuer who has overwhelmed me in the past. I am no longer allowing her to do that. Anyway, there is no more room at the inn. I have two cats in my separation rooms, one recovering from a blinding eye infection and upper resp. and the other who has bone cancer, tumor on leg but is doing OK so far. The partially blind cat is one of my own outdoor old biddies. The cancer cat is from a colony I used to feed but gave back to the overwhelming rescuer when I moved out of the city. I felt obligated to this cat so took her and am giving her whatever life she has left. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 7:21 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Fostering (Beth) I only have 3 cats of my own left. 2 are quite old 1 is FeLV positive. I do not take in more FeLV fosters unless one passes away. I do not take FeLV cats from individuals unless they agree that it is still their cat, just living at my house. I will not be responsible for vet bills or food expenses. It is tough turning people down, but I have to have a sane life do not want to get overwhelmed. I prefer to educate people that they can mix their cats keep the FeLV's. That being said, I recently agreed to take an FeLV from a lady who volunteers at our shelter who I have known for years. The cat no more than got to my house it is clear he has medical issues she is not returning my calls or emails. This may mark the end of me taking in any FeLV's from individuals, period. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Fostering (Beth) I had three FeLv+ cats throw it off. They all three were adults. Bunny was the youngest. She tested positive when she was spayed at a shelter. They would usually euthanize them but for some reason she slipped through the cracks, I am pleased to say and the rescuer brought her to me knowing that I would keep her or find a place for her if she did not turn. But she turned. Right now she's annoying two other cats in my computer room. She sleeps with me at night, and is a joyous cat. I would like to find her another home though because I just have too many and can't give her enough attention. My oldest cat, Moses threw it off i about 7 years ago. Percy had both FeLv and FIV. He threw off the FeLv and is now in my FIV room. I have a 5 months old FeLv+ kitten in foster care trying to turn negative. I hope she does. Taco and Smooch, two other FeLv+ cats who were brought to me as strays and tested positive passed away in two years. But at least they had those two years extra and weren't deprived of their short lives. I have chosen the wrong calling though. I'm much too emotional to be able to cope with this. Unfortunately I have no choice. I live from one emotional disaster to another these days because my feline family is approaching the older years. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Fostering (Beth) No, I have never seen one throw the virus off. I think fostering the FeLV cats is probably easier than fostering healthy cats, actually. I have done that plenty of times, too. At least I don't have to deal with constantly getting attached to cats only to have them adopted out I don't have to deal with kittens, which can be so much work. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Fostering (Beth) Beth I didn't know you fostered FelV cats. Have you had any who eventually threw off the virus? All of the kittens I've taken in as FelV positive, who must have acquired the virus from their mother, have died within two years. However, from one litter of FelV kittens I have an male who is now 4 years old, and he was the only one in his litter who did NOT test positive when I took them in, and I later tested him and he was still negative. I really admire you for fostering FelV cats. It can be heartbreaking when they become sick and die. I've had three PTS since October. They would have been a year old in May. One from this same litter is still fine, or seems to be. I will retest her soon. Lorrie On 04-23, Beth wrote: Chris - I
Re: [Felvtalk] seeking advice for treating FeLV positive old CKD cats with the new drugs
Catherine - Pcv of 10 is dangerously low. I've never had an FeLV cat recover from one that low. I don't know if anyone else has, but a pcv that low needs to be checked frequently (once or twice per week). Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: I-Chun C. C. Chang changic...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2013 3:46 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] seeking advice for treating FeLV positive old CKD cats with the new drugs Dear Felvalk friends, I am very new to this group and was hoping to get some advice for the treatment about my currently very sick cat. My cat is 16 years old, who came to the States with me 6 years ago. I got her when she was 7 (she was abandoned by the previous house owner...) After I got her, she was tested twice negative for FeLV and vaccinated for four years. From then she has been a totally indoor cat. I later adopted another cat, who was also tested negative twice and vaccinated for three years. From then on, since they have been complete indoor apartment cats with no exposure to other cats and the little one always got some reaction to the vaccine, we stopped vaccinating them for FeLV. Last Friday, my 16 years old cat was getting weak, my husband and I rushed her to the ER and were told that she was in sever anemia (pcv less than 10%) due to her chronic kidney disease. Two blood transfusions has been done, but her response to blood transfusions was poor. Doctors then concerned that not only her red blood cell count is low, her white blood cell count is also very low. So the doctors ran the FeLV test again on Tuesday, and it came back positive (!!) (we also rushed our younger one for test yesterday; but he stays negative, and we added a booster vaccine on him). We are getting our 16 years old back tonight. Doctors implicitly has mentioned that FeLV has no cure, plus her Kidney situation (late stage CKD), she may not live long... we were also suggested to consider putting her into sleep soon. But I luckily found last night there is this emailist, and on the website there are several drugs listed for possible treatment plans: ImmunoRegulin, Acemannan, Interferon Alpha etc. Do anyone in this emaillist have experience about treatment on old FeLV cat with CKD by using these new drugs? If yes, may I learn your experience? I really don't want to lose my girl in this way.I am getting my degree soon, and do hope at least I can have her come back to my home country with me... Sorry for such a long email, and thank you very much! I. Catherine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Lethargic
Overreacting I understand. I do it too. If the life of someone I love is in the balance, I prefer to be OVER cautious, better safe than sorry. Maryam Ulomi ava...@gmail.com wrote: Her gums are ok. Thank you everyone for your suggestions and concerns. Kitty was back to normal by late Friday and by Saturday she was her old self. I always manage to overreact with Kitty as I'm afraid to allow any symptoms to linger. We have a feline holistic vet coming to the house on Thursday to look at Kitty and look at integrating more supplements and raw/homemade food to her diet. Thanks again, I made Dr. Pitcairn's brownies for dogs and cats, took less than one hour and Kitty loves it. My other cat, FeLV neg cat wouldn't even lick it once. Sent from my iPhone. On Apr 22, 2013, at 8:36, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Have you checked her gums? Are they pink or pale? Cats are amazing at hiding illness. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Maryam Ulomi ava...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, April 19, 2013 3:17 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Lethargic Hi everyone, Need some advice and help. Kitty, our 10 months old FeLV positive cat is wonderful, very active and playful. Since last night, she has been laying out more than usual and today she spent most of the day just laying on the bed and not being very active. Are these signs I really need to be concerned about or just a little tiredness? It's Friday and I would hate for her to deteriorate over the weekend, Sent from my iPhone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Fostering (Beth)
You may have to do like the no kill shelters all do, ask an amount to take care of their food and medical bills for the rest of their life. I have a shelter picked out and have provided in my will for their care. They have a formula worked out, number of years expected for them to live x set amount of money. It is really not asking all that much considering you are asking them to give the cats the same care you have given them for the remainder of their lives. I have had my babies too long to leave their future up in the air. Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: I only have 3 cats of my own left. 2 are quite old 1 is FeLV positive. I do not take in more FeLV fosters unless one passes away. I do not take FeLV cats from individuals unless they agree that it is still their cat, just living at my house. I will not be responsible for vet bills or food expenses. It is tough turning people down, but I have to have a sane life do not want to get overwhelmed. I prefer to educate people that they can mix their cats keep the FeLV's. That being said, I recently agreed to take an FeLV from a lady who volunteers at our shelter who I have known for years. The cat no more than got to my house it is clear he has medical issues she is not returning my calls or emails. This may mark the end of me taking in any FeLV's from individuals, period. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 11:13 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Fostering (Beth) I had three FeLv+ cats throw it off. They all three were adults. Bunny was the youngest. She tested positive when she was spayed at a shelter. They would usually euthanize them but for some reason she slipped through the cracks, I am pleased to say and the rescuer brought her to me knowing that I would keep her or find a place for her if she did not turn. But she turned. Right now she's annoying two other cats in my computer room. She sleeps with me at night, and is a joyous cat. I would like to find her another home though because I just have too many and can't give her enough attention. My oldest cat, Moses threw it off i about 7 years ago. Percy had both FeLv and FIV. He threw off the FeLv and is now in my FIV room. I have a 5 months old FeLv+ kitten in foster care trying to turn negative. I hope she does. Taco and Smooch, two other FeLv+ cats who were brought to me as strays and tested positive passed away in two years. But at least they had those two years extra and weren't deprived of their short lives. I have chosen the wrong calling though. I'm much too emotional to be able to cope with this. Unfortunately I have no choice. I live from one emotional disaster to another these days because my feline family is approaching the older years. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 6:07 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Fostering (Beth) No, I have never seen one throw the virus off. I think fostering the FeLV cats is probably easier than fostering healthy cats, actually. I have done that plenty of times, too. At least I don't have to deal with constantly getting attached to cats only to have them adopted out I don't have to deal with kittens, which can be so much work. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing Fostering (Beth) Beth I didn't know you fostered FelV cats. Have you had any who eventually threw off the virus? All of the kittens I've taken in as FelV positive, who must have acquired the virus from their mother, have died within two years. However, from one litter of FelV kittens I have an male who is now 4 years old, and he was the only one in his litter who did NOT test positive when I took them in, and I later tested him and he was still negative. I really admire you for fostering FelV cats. It can be heartbreaking when they become sick and die. I've had three PTS since October. They would have been a year old in May. One from this same litter is still fine, or seems to be. I will retest her soon. Lorrie On 04-23, Beth wrote: Chris - I would search the archives on mixing. A lot of us mix our positive non-positive, vaccinated cats. I have done it for over 10 years with no transmission of the virus to my healthy cats. I even have had FIV cats mix with the FeLV cats with no problems. And, yes, I do retest my negatives. It becomes a little difficult when you foster healthy cats for a
