Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

2013-07-01 Thread Lee Evans


 
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Convenia is an excellent long term antibiotic that tends to help chronic 
conditions like stomatitis and chronic diarrhea because it keeps the bacteria 
down and gives the cat's own immune system a little rest with the continuing 
battle. That increases the immune system's strength. Also, try giving liquid 
vitamin such as Nutraved with iron and B vitamins. With all chronic 
conditions, it's very important to keep stress out of the lives of the cats. 
Yelling, anger, grief, any negative emotions that are present in the household 
will take a toll on a cat's emotions also. They are very sensitive. That's why 
a harsh no! will send most of them scurrying under the nearest furniture.



 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

2013-07-01 Thread dlgegg
Thank you.  Casey seems to be better.  Am continuing to monitor the 7 boxes 
just in case so I can get to the vet if necessary.


 Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 

 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
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Convenia is an excellent long term antibiotic that tends to help chronic 
conditions like stomatitis and chronic diarrhea because it keeps the bacteria 
down and gives the cat's own immune system a little rest with the continuing 
battle. That increases the immune system's strength. Also, try giving liquid 
vitamin such as Nutraved with iron and B vitamins. With all chronic 
conditions, it's very important to keep stress out of the lives of the cats. 
Yelling, anger, grief, any negative emotions that are present in the household 
will take a toll on a cat's emotions also. They are very sensitive. That's why 
a harsh no! will send most of them scurrying under the nearest furniture.



 
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[Felvtalk] goodby little one

2013-07-01 Thread Karen Harshbarger
It is with a sad heart that I remember a little cat that came into our lives 
one cold winter morning this past winter.  She lost her battle with feline 
leukemia last night.  Little Squirt --- later to become Penelope (Penny) 
squeezed her way into our outside kennel and into our hearts.  She was sick and 
needed help, shelter and love; which we gave without question.  With medical 
care, she seemed to become better. We already had so many cats, so I put out a 
cry for help and assistance.  Panora P.E.T.S.. (bless their hearts) offered to 
take her and her brother to try to help them find a forever home.  They found 
them a foster home while waiting, but soon learned that Penelope had to leave 
her brother for a new foster home and a cat friend (that also has feline 
leukemia) because it was discovered she had feline leukemia.  She seemed to be 
doing okay, but this horrible illness finely claimed her life.  I remember a 
beautiful sweet loving cat that was so tiny
 and loved to be cuddled and cradled like a baby in my arms.  Hopefully her 
friend that she made hereour other cat (Tig) that also lost his battle to 
this horrible illnessare now playing together in cat heaven and never know 
illness or pain again---nothing but happiness.  Poor little Penelope never 
found her forever home here on earthbut I know she at least found love from 
all of those that tried to help her, including us.  I cried when we took her to 
Panora but knew they could give her a better chance of finding a inside loving 
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[Felvtalk] OT-diatomaceous earth - warnig

2013-07-01 Thread Beth
I don't want to start a barrage of OT emails with this post. Just a quick 
warnng to be careful
I tried the food grade diatomaceous earth this weekend to try to stop the 
fleas. I have all hardwood floors - really old ones, with lots of crevices for 
the flea eggs to hide in.
I wore a good sanding mask which blocks small particles. I opened the windows 
(as many as I could without danger of the cats getting out).
I sprinkled it in the product on the floors using a sieve. I gently swept it 
into the cracks in the floor in my bedroom  hallway. If did not create any 
visible dust clouds, etc.
I went outside, took the mask off  sat for a bit. 

When I went back inside I could not breath. My mouth immediately became parched 
 my throat started closing.
I grabbed some water  went back outside. 

I spent the rest of the day with the mask back on washing the floors trying to 
get rid of the stuff.
Please be careful. I am a very active, relatively young  person. I don't have 
breathing issues.  This was quite scary.
In addition to the breathing issues, some of it got on my skin  it just 
burned. 


Again, yes, this was the food grade kind.

I know people on this list use it  have no problems. That's great. But if you 
have not tried it, please be careful if you do. Try it in a very small area, 
first. 

I guess I will go back to vacuuming  flea combing.
I may use the rest in the yard since most of the problem seems to be my dog 
bringing them in from outside.

Beth

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Re: [Felvtalk] goodby little one

2013-07-01 Thread Beth
So sorry Karen. At least she didn't die alone outside. Some of them are with us 
for such a short time, but they still make a big impression on our hearts.

Beth


 
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 From: Karen Harshbarger harshbargerka...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 12:02 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] goodby little one
 


It is with a sad heart that I remember a little cat that came into our lives 
one cold winter morning this past winter.  She lost her battle with feline 
leukemia last night.  Little Squirt --- later to become Penelope (Penny) 
squeezed her way into our outside kennel and into our hearts.  She was sick and 
needed help, shelter and love; which we gave without question.  With medical 
care, she seemed to become better. We already had so many cats, so I put out a 
cry for help and assistance.  Panora P.E.T.S.. (bless their hearts) offered to 
take her and her brother to try to help them find a forever home.  They found 
them a foster home while waiting, but soon learned that Penelope had to leave 
her brother for a new foster home and a cat friend (that also has feline 
leukemia) because it was discovered she had feline leukemia.  She seemed to be 
doing okay, but this horrible illness finely claimed her life.  I remember a 
beautiful sweet loving cat that was so tiny
 and loved to be cuddled and cradled like a baby in my arms.  Hopefully her 
friend that she made hereour other cat (Tig) that also lost his battle to 
this horrible illnessare now playing together in cat heaven and never know 
illness or pain again---nothing but happiness.  Poor little Penelope never 
found her forever home here on earthbut I know she at least found love from 
all of those that tried to help her, including us.  I cried when we took her to 
Panora but knew they could give her a better chance of finding a inside loving 
home.  Penelope---know we will always love you and Tig, and you will forever be 
in our hearts.
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Re: [Felvtalk] goodby little one

2013-07-01 Thread Amanda K. Payne
Karen,

I'm sorry to hear of Penny's passing.  Your touching email made me cry.
 Thank you for taking her in and doing all you could to find her good home.
 Her time on earth was short, but thanks you, it was filled with love.  If
only all FeLV kitties could be so lucky.

Sincerely,
-Amanda


On Mon, Jul 1, 2013 at 9:02 AM, Karen Harshbarger 
harshbargerka...@yahoo.com wrote:

 It is with a sad heart that I remember a little cat that came into our
 lives one cold winter morning this past winter. She lost her battle with
 feline leukemia last night. Little Squirt --- later to become Penelope
 (Penny) squeezed her way into our outside kennel and into our hearts. She
 was sick and needed help, shelter and love; which we gave without question.
 With medical care, she seemed to become better. We already had so many
 cats, so I put out a cry for help and assistance. Panora P.E.T.S.. (bless
 their hearts) offered to take her and her brother to try to help them find
 a forever home. They found them a foster home while waiting, but soon
 learned that Penelope had to leave her brother for a new foster home and a
 cat friend (that also has feline leukemia) because it was discovered she
 had feline leukemia. She seemed to be doing okay, but this horrible illness
 finely claimed her life. I remember a beautiful sweet loving cat that was
 so tiny and loved to be cuddled and cradled like a baby in my arms.
 Hopefully her friend that she made hereour other cat (Tig) that also
 lost his battle to this horrible illnessare now playing together in cat
 heaven and never know illness or pain again---nothing but happiness. Poor
 little Penelope never found her forever home here on earthbut I know
 she at least found love from all of those that tried to help her, including
 us. I cried when we took her to Panora but knew they could give her a
 better chance of finding a inside loving home. Penelope---know we will
 always love you and Tig, and you will forever be in our hearts.

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Re: [Felvtalk] goodby little one

2013-07-01 Thread Maryam Ulomi
Sorry for your loss and thank you for opening your heart to Little Penny

Sent from my iPhone.

On Jul 1, 2013, at 12:02, Karen Harshbarger harshbargerka...@yahoo.com wrote:

 It is with a sad heart that I remember a little cat that came into our lives 
 one cold winter morning this past winter. She lost her battle with feline 
 leukemia last night. Little Squirt --- later to become Penelope (Penny) 
 squeezed her way into our outside kennel and into our hearts. She was sick 
 and needed help, shelter and love; which we gave without question. With 
 medical care, she seemed to become better. We already had so many cats, so I 
 put out a cry for help and assistance. Panora P.E.T.S.. (bless their hearts) 
 offered to take her and her brother to try to help them find a forever home. 
 They found them a foster home while waiting, but soon learned that Penelope 
 had to leave her brother for a new foster home and a cat friend (that also 
 has feline leukemia) because it was discovered she had feline leukemia. She 
 seemed to be doing okay, but this horrible illness finely claimed her life. I 
 remember a beautiful sweet loving cat that was so tiny and loved to be 
 cuddled and cradled like a baby in my arms. Hopefully her friend that she 
 made hereour other cat (Tig) that also lost his battle to this horrible 
 illnessare now playing together in cat heaven and never know illness or 
 pain again---nothing but happiness. Poor little Penelope never found her 
 forever home here on earthbut I know she at least found love from all of 
 those that tried to help her, including us. I cried when we took her to 
 Panora but knew they could give her a better chance of finding a inside 
 loving home. Penelope---know we will always love you and Tig, and you will 
 forever be in our hearts.
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Re: [Felvtalk] goodby little one

2013-07-01 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Karen

So sorry to hear of Penny's passing.   As you so eloquently said, may she be
frolicking in sunny pastures with her kitty friends.  Although it hurts so
much to have them leave us, they fill our hearts with their sweet love, and
bring out our better nature when we try to help them.  Bless you for your
love and efforts.

Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Karen Harshbarger
Sent: Monday, July 01, 2013 9:03 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] goodby little one

 

It is with a sad heart that I remember a little cat that came into our lives
one cold winter morning this past winter. She lost her battle with feline
leukemia last night. Little Squirt --- later to become Penelope (Penny)
squeezed her way into our outside kennel and into our hearts. She was sick
and needed help, shelter and love; which we gave without question. With
medical care, she seemed to become better. We already had so many cats, so I
put out a cry for help and assistance. Panora P.E.T.S.. (bless their hearts)
offered to take her and her brother to try to help them find a forever home.
They found them a foster home while waiting, but soon learned that Penelope
had to leave her brother for a new foster home and a cat friend (that also
has feline leukemia) because it was discovered she had feline leukemia. She
seemed to be doing okay, but this horrible illness finely claimed her life.
I remember a beautiful sweet loving cat that was so tiny and loved to be
cuddled and cradled like a baby in my arms. Hopefully her friend that she
made hereour other cat (Tig) that also lost his battle to this horrible
illnessare now playing together in cat heaven and never know illness or
pain again---nothing but happiness. Poor little Penelope never found her
forever home here on earthbut I know she at least found love from all of
those that tried to help her, including us. I cried when we took her to
Panora but knew they could give her a better chance of finding a inside
loving home. Penelope---know we will always love you and Tig, and you will
forever be in our hearts.

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Re: [Felvtalk] OT-diatomaceous earth - warning

2013-07-01 Thread Lorrie
Very scary Beth,  Thanks for the warning.


On 07-01, Beth wrote:
I don't want to start a barrage of OT emails with this post. Just a
quick warnng to be careful
I tried the food grade diatomaceous earth this weekend to try to stop
the fleas. I have all hardwood floors - really old ones, with lots of
crevices for the flea eggs to hide in.
I wore a good sanding mask which blocks small particles. I opened the
windows (as many as I could without danger of the cats getting out).
I sprinkled it in the product on the floors using a sieve. I gently
swept it into the cracks in the floor in my bedroom  hallway. If did
not create any visible dust clouds, etc.
I went outside, took the mask off  sat for a bit.
When I went back inside I could not breath. My mouth immediately became
parched  my throat started closing.
I grabbed some water  went back outside.
I spent the rest of the day with the mask back on washing the floors
trying to get rid of the stuff.
Please be careful. I am a very active, relatively young  person. I
don't have breathing issues.  This was quite scary.
In addition to the breathing issues, some of it got on my skin  it
just burned.
Again, yes, this was the food grade kind.
I know people on this list use it  have no problems. That's great. But
if you have not tried it, please be careful if you do. Try it in a very
small area, first.
I guess I will go back to vacuuming  flea combing.
I may use the rest in the yard since most of the problem seems to be my
dog bringing them in from outside.
Beth

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Re: [Felvtalk] OT-diatomaceous earth - warning

2013-07-01 Thread janine paton
I am sorry, I haven't been following this thread but caught the diatomaceous 
warning.  Hoping they still make this, but 1-800-flea busters out of FL. is my 
favorite product to use.  It's a little work, but I think I was over zealous 
the first year.  Third yr I used it, I was not so diligent, but it worked just 
fine.  It is safe, and it lasts a year and that's the real bonus.  Takes a few 
weeks to work, but it really does.  

Janine 



 From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT-diatomaceous earth - warning
 

Very scary Beth,  Thanks for the warning.


On 07-01, Beth wrote:
    I don't want to start a barrage of OT emails with this post. Just a
    quick warnng to be careful
    I tried the food grade diatomaceous earth this weekend to try to stop
    the fleas. I have all hardwood floors - really old ones, with lots of
    crevices for the flea eggs to hide in.
    I wore a good sanding mask which blocks small particles. I opened the
    windows (as many as I could without danger of the cats getting out).
    I sprinkled it in the product on the floors using a sieve. I gently
    swept it into the cracks in the floor in my bedroom  hallway. If did
    not create any visible dust clouds, etc.
    I went outside, took the mask off  sat for a bit.
    When I went back inside I could not breath. My mouth immediately became
    parched  my throat started closing.
    I grabbed some water  went back outside.
    I spent the rest of the day with the mask back on washing the floors
    trying to get rid of the stuff.
    Please be careful. I am a very active, relatively young  person. I
    don't have breathing issues.  This was quite scary.
    In addition to the breathing issues, some of it got on my skin  it
    just burned.
    Again, yes, this was the food grade kind.
    I know people on this list use it  have no problems. That's great. But
    if you have not tried it, please be careful if you do. Try it in a very
    small area, first.
    I guess I will go back to vacuuming  flea combing.
    I may use the rest in the yard since most of the problem seems to be my
    dog bringing them in from outside.
    Beth

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Re: [Felvtalk] OT-diatomaceous earth - warning

2013-07-01 Thread dlgegg
I was really thinking of using it in the yard and on the deck and seeing how 
that worked.  So far last year and this year we have had NO FLEA OR TICK 
PROBLEMS.  The cats only go out on the deck, except Harley.  He goes into the 
woods, but has only had 2 ticks and no sign of fleas.  KNOCK ON WOOD.
 nOW IF THERE WAS A SOLUTION FOR BUFFALO GNATS.  They raise huge welts on me 
and so I spend most of my time indoors until they are gone.  They usually 
disappear when it starts getting hot.

 janine paton patonjan...@sbcglobal.net wrote: 
 I am sorry, I haven't been following this thread but caught the diatomaceous 
 warning.  Hoping they still make this, but 1-800-flea busters out of FL. is 
 my favorite product to use.  It's a little work, but I think I was over 
 zealous the first year.  Third yr I used it, I was not so diligent, but it 
 worked just fine.  It is safe, and it lasts a year and that's the real bonus. 
  Takes a few weeks to work, but it really does.  

Janine 



 From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 5:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT-diatomaceous earth - warning
 

Very scary Beth,  Thanks for the warning.


On 07-01, Beth wrote:
    I don't want to start a barrage of OT emails with this post. Just a
    quick warnng to be careful
    I tried the food grade diatomaceous earth this weekend to try to stop
    the fleas. I have all hardwood floors - really old ones, with lots of
    crevices for the flea eggs to hide in.
    I wore a good sanding mask which blocks small particles. I opened the
    windows (as many as I could without danger of the cats getting out).
    I sprinkled it in the product on the floors using a sieve. I gently
    swept it into the cracks in the floor in my bedroom  hallway. If did
    not create any visible dust clouds, etc.
    I went outside, took the mask off  sat for a bit.
    When I went back inside I could not breath. My mouth immediately became
    parched  my throat started closing.
    I grabbed some water  went back outside.
    I spent the rest of the day with the mask back on washing the floors
    trying to get rid of the stuff.
    Please be careful. I am a very active, relatively young  person. I
    don't have breathing issues.  This was quite scary.
    In addition to the breathing issues, some of it got on my skin  it
    just burned.
    Again, yes, this was the food grade kind.
    I know people on this list use it  have no problems. That's great. But
    if you have not tried it, please be careful if you do. Try it in a very
    small area, first.
    I guess I will go back to vacuuming  flea combing.
    I may use the rest in the yard since most of the problem seems to be my
    dog bringing them in from outside.
    Beth

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Re: [Felvtalk] goodby little one

2013-07-01 Thread dlgegg
At least she had love with you, that is so important, to know that someone 
cares.

 Karen Harshbarger harshbargerka...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 It is with a sad heart that I remember a little cat that came into our lives 
 one cold winter morning this past winter.  She lost her battle with feline 
 leukemia last night.  Little Squirt --- later to become Penelope (Penny) 
 squeezed her way into our outside kennel and into our hearts.  She was sick 
 and needed help, shelter and love; which we gave without question.  With 
 medical care, she seemed to become better. We already had so many cats, so I 
 put out a cry for help and assistance.  Panora P.E.T.S.. (bless their hearts) 
 offered to take her and her brother to try to help them find a forever home.  
 They found them a foster home while waiting, but soon learned that Penelope 
 had to leave her brother for a new foster home and a cat friend (that also 
 has feline leukemia) because it was discovered she had feline leukemia.  She 
 seemed to be doing okay, but this horrible illness finely claimed her life.  
 I remember a beautiful sweet loving cat that was so tiny
  and loved to be cuddled and cradled like a baby in my arms.  Hopefully her 
 friend that she made hereour other cat (Tig) that also lost his battle to 
 this horrible illnessare now playing together in cat heaven and never 
 know illness or pain again---nothing but happiness.  Poor little Penelope 
 never found her forever home here on earthbut I know she at least found 
 love from all of those that tried to help her, including us.  I cried when we 
 took her to Panora but knew they could give her a better chance of finding a 
 inside loving home.  Penelope---know we will always love you and Tig, and you 
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Re: [Felvtalk] goodby little one

2013-07-01 Thread Lee Evans
She found warmth, food, love and compassion. She lived happily for a short time 
but that's better than living miserably for a long time. She was surrounded by 
people who understood her plight and didn't allow her to suffer. It may not 
have been a long life, but I'm sure for her it was a perfect one. Hugs and 
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 From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Cc: Karen Harshbarger harshbargerka...@yahoo.com 
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] goodby little one
 

At least she had love with you, that is so important, to know that someone 
cares.

 Karen Harshbarger harshbargerka...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 It is with a sad heart that I remember a little cat that came into our lives 
 one cold winter morning this past winter.  She lost her battle with feline 
 leukemia last night.  Little Squirt --- later to become Penelope (Penny) 
 squeezed her way into our outside kennel and into our hearts.  She was sick 
 and needed help, shelter and love; which we gave without question.  With 
 medical care, she seemed to become better. We already had so many cats, so I 
 put out a cry for help and assistance.  Panora P.E.T.S.. (bless their 
 hearts) offered to take her and her brother to try to help them find a 
 forever home.  They found them a foster home while waiting, but soon learned 
 that Penelope had to leave her brother for a new foster home and a cat 
 friend (that also has feline leukemia) because it was discovered she had 
 feline leukemia.  She seemed to be doing okay, but this horrible illness 
 finely claimed her life.  I remember a beautiful sweet loving cat that
 was so tiny
  and loved to be cuddled and cradled like a baby in my arms.  Hopefully her 
friend that she made hereour other cat (Tig) that also lost his battle to 
this horrible illnessare now playing together in cat heaven and never 
know illness or pain again---nothing but happiness.  Poor little Penelope 
never found her forever home here on earthbut I know she at least found 
love from all of those that tried to help her, including us.  I cried when we 
took her to Panora but knew they could give her a better chance of finding a 
inside loving home.  Penelope---know we will always love you and Tig, and you 
will forever be in our hearts.


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Re: [Felvtalk] OT-diatomaceous earth - warning

2013-07-01 Thread Lee Evans
It does have a drying effect on human skin so be sure to wash your hands, arms, 
whatever it contacts. That's how this stuff works. It dries out the fleas. 
Their underside is soft and it simply dehydrates them like prunes. Don't use a 
flour sifter. What I did was take a tablespoon and place it on my shed floor 
(where the fleas were really rocking and rolling and the cats were itching and 
scritching) and with a regular broom swept it slowly and gently from side to 
side and into the baseboard around the floor. I have lino but it's also old and 
slight separations between the each glued down part. So then I kept the cats 
out for 24 hours (do in good weather if you have an outside enclosure attached 
to a cat room) and next day, no polka dots on my pants, no flea bites. Yes, you 
can spread it outside but again, don't poof it into the air if you are 
sensitive and don't do on windy day.  Flea Busters is also good but it's boric 
acid or borax, not good for cats
 to lick from their fur. With diatomaceous earth, you don't have to wait 
several days. Fleas are gone over night. However, make sure you don't inhale or 
you will get all dried out.

 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!






 From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 5:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT-diatomaceous earth - warning
 

I was really thinking of using it in the yard and on the deck and seeing how 
that worked.  So far last year and this year we have had NO FLEA OR TICK 
PROBLEMS.  The cats only go out on the deck, except Harley.  He goes into the 
woods, but has only had 2 ticks and no sign of fleas.  KNOCK ON WOOD.
nOW IF THERE WAS A SOLUTION FOR BUFFALO GNATS.  They raise huge welts on me 
and so I spend most of my time indoors until they are gone.  They usually 
disappear when it starts getting hot.


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2013-07-01 Thread Patricia Romagna
Hi, 
 
I'm sorry but I will need to leave your discussions.  My cat, William (as in 
Shakespeare) ran away last month.  I just hope that he found a loving family.  
When I went away for a week and a half I hired someone to come to my house just 
in case he returned home.  I live in a townhouse community so every house looks 
the same and he never left the house before.  I will probably get another high 
needs cat.  I adopted William knowing that he had leukemia.  Basically I want 
to adopt a cat that no one else wants.  Wishing all of the best to the members 
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Re: [Felvtalk] OT-diatomaceous earth - warning

2013-07-01 Thread C PQ
I know someone that FEEDS it to her cats. That can't be good after hearing your 
experience. If it's a desiccant, then I would think it might cause internal 
damage. Anyone know anything about that?

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 Date: Mon, 1 Jul 2013 17:50:19 -0500
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT-diatomaceous earth - warning
 
 I was really thinking of using it in the yard and on the deck and seeing how 
 that worked.  So far last year and this year we have had NO FLEA OR TICK 
 PROBLEMS.  The cats only go out on the deck, except Harley.  He goes into the 
 woods, but has only had 2 ticks and no sign of fleas.  KNOCK ON WOOD.
  nOW IF THERE WAS A SOLUTION FOR BUFFALO GNATS.  They raise huge welts on me 
 and so I spend most of my time indoors until they are gone.  They usually 
 disappear when it starts getting hot.
 
  janine paton patonjan...@sbcglobal.net wrote: 
  I am sorry, I haven't been following this thread but caught the 
  diatomaceous warning.  Hoping they still make this, but 1-800-flea busters 
  out of FL. is my favorite product to use.  It's a little work, but I think 
  I was over zealous the first year.  Third yr I used it, I was not so 
  diligent, but it worked just fine.  It is safe, and it lasts a year and 
  that's the real bonus.  Takes a few weeks to work, but it really does.  
 
 Janine 
 
 
 
  From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Monday, July 1, 2013 5:07 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] OT-diatomaceous earth - warning
  
 
 Very scary Beth,  Thanks for the warning.
 
 
 On 07-01, Beth wrote:
 I don't want to start a barrage of OT emails with this post. Just a
 quick warnng to be careful
 I tried the food grade diatomaceous earth this weekend to try to stop
 the fleas. I have all hardwood floors - really old ones, with lots of
 crevices for the flea eggs to hide in.
 I wore a good sanding mask which blocks small particles. I opened the
 windows (as many as I could without danger of the cats getting out).
 I sprinkled it in the product on the floors using a sieve. I gently
 swept it into the cracks in the floor in my bedroom  hallway. If did
 not create any visible dust clouds, etc.
 I went outside, took the mask off  sat for a bit.
 When I went back inside I could not breath. My mouth immediately became
 parched  my throat started closing.
 I grabbed some water  went back outside.
 I spent the rest of the day with the mask back on washing the floors
 trying to get rid of the stuff.
 Please be careful. I am a very active, relatively young  person. I
 don't have breathing issues.  This was quite scary.
 In addition to the breathing issues, some of it got on my skin  it
 just burned.
 Again, yes, this was the food grade kind.
 I know people on this list use it  have no problems. That's great. But
 if you have not tried it, please be careful if you do. Try it in a very
 small area, first.
 I guess I will go back to vacuuming  flea combing.
 I may use the rest in the yard since most of the problem seems to be my
 dog bringing them in from outside.
 Beth
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] goodby little one

2013-07-01 Thread Lance
This made me cry, too. I'm so sorry that Penelope is gone. You were kind and 
loving to her, Karen, and that's an important part of this story. Without you, 
what would have happened to her? With you and your influence, she got a lot of 
love and care. Thank you.

Lance

On Jul 1, 2013, at 11:02 AM, Karen Harshbarger harshbargerka...@yahoo.com 
wrote:

 It is with a sad heart that I remember a little cat that came into our lives 
 one cold winter morning this past winter. She lost her battle with feline 
 leukemia last night. Little Squirt --- later to become Penelope (Penny) 
 squeezed her way into our outside kennel and into our hearts. She was sick 
 and needed help, shelter and love; which we gave without question. With 
 medical care, she seemed to become better. We already had so many cats, so I 
 put out a cry for help and assistance. Panora P.E.T.S.. (bless their hearts) 
 offered to take her and her brother to try to help them find a forever home. 
 They found them a foster home while waiting, but soon learned that Penelope 
 had to leave her brother for a new foster home and a cat friend (that also 
 has feline leukemia) because it was discovered she had feline leukemia. She 
 seemed to be doing okay, but this horrible illness finely claimed her life. I 
 remember a beautiful sweet loving cat that was so tiny and loved to be 
 cuddled and cradled like a baby in my arms. Hopefully her friend that she 
 made hereour other cat (Tig) that also lost his battle to this horrible 
 illnessare now playing together in cat heaven and never know illness or 
 pain again---nothing but happiness. Poor little Penelope never found her 
 forever home here on earthbut I know she at least found love from all of 
 those that tried to help her, including us. I cried when we took her to 
 Panora but knew they could give her a better chance of finding a inside 
 loving home. Penelope---know we will always love you and Tig, and you will 
 forever be in our hearts.
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