Great Source - Only Natural Pet!
Since I live in a rural area our local Mom Pop Natural Store is limited to what items they carry can order, I am always looking for alternative resources since I have to special order many of the products I use for the furkids, including some holisticfood. In my most recent "quest", I came across this site: www.onlynaturalpet.comI was totally impressed and amazed about the products they carry and services offered. The site is dedicated to the holistic approach in care treatment of our furkids. I addition to the extensive product line, they also offer phone consults w/ their vet, Dr. Larry Siegler. He's a graduate of Cornell Univ. He's board certified in acupuncture Chinese Herbal remedies, and also a graduate of Dr. Pitcairn's schooling for Homeopathic Veterinary Medicine. And I found the prices for consult to be even less expensive than some of I have paid in the past working w/ other holistic vets. They also offer an online option for help and advice. Also, phone help where you can actually talk to a real person! The site lists informative articles, w/ many links to other great resources for the holistic approach. I am still in awe of the product line, and the availability of items that I have used in the past, but often have had a hard time locating it. This place carries basically ALL major carriers of natural/holistic products. It will make obtaining these products easier, since basically everything I need can be ordered from one source. I found their prices to be competitive. They also offer a "low price guarantee". In essence, they will match the price of any item found cheaper anywhere else, providing it is not less than their cost. They also offer 10% discount on all food. And their shipping prices seem very reasonable to me, compared to what I've paid in the past. In particular interest to those of you on the list is the array of products that have been discussed on the list and used by many of you. Recently, Genesis Feline Support was discussed as being recommended for use by I believe, Jill's vet. They carry this item, and as I stated before, they'll match any lower price. Another person recently discussed switching to the raw diet for their babies. This place has a very wide variety of products in that line.. Just thought I'd mention this resource since it seems all of us here are on the never ending quest for the best treatments for our furkids. It's definitely worth checking out! Patti
Re: My Lucky is gone/Hubby update
Dittoes Julie! I hope things work out without surgery too. Your new docs sound much better.
tKerry MacKenzie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Julie
Your husband's surgeon sounds fabulous--as you say, just the sort of doc we want for our kitties!
I'm so glad things are progressingin ahopeful wayforSteve--I do hope the medication works and makes the surgery unnecessary.
Sending lots of positive vibes your way.
take care, Kerry
- Original Message -
From: Julie Johnson
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:56 AM
Subject: Re: My Lucky is gone/Hubby update
Thank you so much, Tonya, and thank you for keeping Steve and me in your thoughts.
We met with another vascular surgeon last week and we both really liked him; he has a great reputation and was very good at explaining (without being condescending) and showing us treatment options.There is a medication called Platel which is a vasodilator that has been found to improve circulation in many patients where a bypass would have been the only option. Steve started taking the medication for the aneurysm in his leg and if it works, he may be able to avoid that surgery. The doctor assured us there is no risk of the clot moving; it is actually permanently sealed inside the aneurysm. As far as the one in his abdomen, they are doing more tests this week to try to determine if that one is in danger of rupture; if it is, he will need immediate surgery. If it seems not to be, then they will monitor it closely.
At least we have a plan and some answers now; it's still scary, but the uncertainty of treatment and the doctors who I thought were not competant were making things so much worse. In fact, I liked this surgeon so much that I'd consider letting him operate on one of my cats, how's that for a recommendation?
Steve still has pain and numbness in that foot and leg but there is still circulation to it. We are hoping this medication will work. He went back to work for half-days starting yesterday (after proving he could drive this weekend!), so I'm TRYING to take each day as it comes. I could really do with a break from the s***storms that keep cropping up!
Thank you so much for your concern and good thoughts.
Love, Juliecatatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Julie,
I'm so sorry to hear about Lucky! She is at peace now. Cancer isn't easy to beat. How is your husband doing? You've been in my thoughts.
tonyaJulie Johnson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Dear Freinds,
I lost my dear Lucky ("Lucky-Duck, the Sweet Baboo") on Friday. She had surgery for mammary cancer just before Christmas and appeared to berecovering well. Eating, playing, just being herself. Toward the middle of last week, she seemed to be straining to poop and onFriday she was having diarrhea, not eating and obviously not feeling well . I took her into the vet thinking that the diarrhea (following a bout of constipation) meant she might have some stool blocking things.
What we found was several masses in her belly, fluid in her chest and belly, and an enlarged liver. They were surprised that she was not already in respiratory distress.Her prognosis was very poor. Her cancer is typically not responsive to chemo and only a month ago her chest and stomach xrays were clear, so the cancer had moved aggressively. We made the painful decision to euthanize her.
I am heartbroken; I never expected to take her in and find anything remotely like what we found. I'm grateful we had the time since Christmas together. There is always great competition to sleep on my head and she came and found room on the pillow and cuddled with me on Wednesday night; she purred and seemed so happy. I miss her so much, especially in the morning because she always sat on the bathroom radiator and 'helped' me get ready.
I found her hit by a car on my lunch hour about 8.5 years ago and she had some injuries to her face and the silliest little forehead that kind of stuck out and reminded us of a little bird.
Thanks for listening, everyone; I'd be lost without you all.
Love, Julie"I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it isto protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated."Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet.
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RE: Ginger's appointment
Dear Hideyo, I agree with Barb; I think your precautions are fine and they are certainly more than I do when I handle an FeLV+ cat. I simply wash my hands with soap and water. Think about it; does the vet go through anything more rigorous after examining an FeLV+ cat? I do not currently have any FeLV+ cats, but I stopped vaccinating against FeLV as soon as it was implicated in VAS. I do not mix my FeLV+ cats, they always have a separate room. My Encore, who tested postive after having been negative, shared a room with 4 other cats who were too shy to be in the general population. She had prolonged contact and shared litter, food and water. The cats she was in the room with have continued to test negative. (KNOCK WOOD!) I thought about the insulin syringes being much thinner than other kinds of syringes, too; I wonder if it could make a difference? Like you, I have to do some research and track down that whole study. Julie Barb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: With those precautions, I think you're completely safe. The concensus is that it takes prolonged intimate contact to transfer the virus and that the virus is extremely fragile and short-lived outside the host. There are many people on this list who mix their positives and negatives knowingly for various reasons and, list members please correct me if I'm wrong, there is not one instance in a knowing mix- with the negatives vaccinated, that the virus was transferred. There are others who keep their positives separated but don't take your bleaching and clothes changing precautions and I think that there also, no transmission of virus has occurred. There are the sad cases where a FeLV+ was brought in and the status was NOT known and the virus was transmitted to other negative, non-vaccinated kitties.Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am not sure which doctor studied it, but I will do some research and try to find out. Do you think there is a great risk of my other cats to get FeLV? I do worry I wash my hands with bleach (1-bleach 8 water) all the time, before and after visiting Ginger, and change my clothes and socks every time, and before and after do you think there is still a risk? I read that FeLV virus does not live outside of the body more than a few seconds (and some other literature says a few hours and I am not sure what is more realistic information do you know? I am curious) I would appreciate any of your input on this because I have 20 plus cats in my house though they dont have a direct contact at all with Ginger, I do not want to assume that it is ok - and vice versa, most of my other cats are exposed to corona virus positive. Thank you! Hideyo -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of NinaSent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 2:13 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Ginger's appointment Hideyo, and what they found out is that cancers/tumors are not caused by vaccine itself, but rather by injections they did testing with a control group with saline solutions and they still found cancers/tumors from the group I hadn't heard this before, and it is of great concern to me too. Do you know the name of the doctor who quoted the study? Would you please call him and ask which study he's talking about? I'd very much like to read it for myself. I have been shooting three of my babies so full of holes, (Penicillin, VO, B12), that I expect them to start leaking when they drink! We had a discussion about vaccines not too long ago. I didn't read the links because I've already decided not to subject my animals to any more vaccines unless they are absolutely necessary. They have all been inoculated in the past and I suspect that the "boosters" pose more risk than they're worth. Someone on the list talked about blood testing to determine whether an animal's titers indicated if they needed them. If you read the archives, you'll see that I have a semi-feral, Gypsy, with IBD that I suspect was caused by over vaccination. I am concerned, however, about your not vaccinating your cats for FeLV with a positive in the house. Even with Ginger in another room, you are exposing them to a great risk.As far as taking Ginger to the vet... What did you expect the vet to do for her? If she seems to be getting better, I would be reluctant to take her in as well. NinaHideyo Yamamoto wrote: After going back and forth, I decided not to take Ginger to her appointment yesterday after all. She has been doing well, and I wanted to minimize any chances of stressing her if I could avoid it. She is a feral cat, and she is extremely skittish and I guess, since she has been doing so well, I did not want anything to change that Thats said, do you guys think that I should still get her checked up by my vet? Her tongue (Dr. Basko tells me that the color of the tongue can be a better indication of anemia than gums sometimes especially, ginger has a darker pigment) and gum looks good
RE: OT Humor: We're Having A Puppy!
Me, too! It's so funny because it's exactly what people say!!!"MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Love it! Certainly makes the point! Kerry-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brenda K.SmithSent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 8:59 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: OT Humor: We're Having A Puppy!Hi All.A rescuer sent me this. Thought all you rescuers would get it. :)Anyone involved in rescue should be able to see the humor inthisRESCUE HELP NEEDED ASAP:Please help After two long years of being on a waiting list for an agility dog, we have been notified by the breeder that, at long last, our number has come up and ...WE ARE HAVING A PUPPY!!!We must IMMEDIATELY get rid of our children now, because we just KNOW how time consuming our new little puppy is going to be! Since our little puppy will be arriving on Monday we MUST place the children in new homes this weekend!They are described as:One male - His name is Ryan, Caucasian (English/Irish mix), light blonde hair, blue eyes. Four years old. Excellent disposition. He doesn't bite. Temperament tested. Does have problems with peeing directly in the toilet. Has had chicken Pox and is current on all shots. Tonsils have already been removed. Ryan eats everything, is very clean, house trained gets along well with others. Does not run with scissors and with a little training he should be able to read soon.One female - Her name is Lexie, Caucasian (English/Irish mix), strawberry blonde hair, green eyes quite freckled. Two years old. Can be surly at times. Non-biter, thumb sucker. Has been temperament tested but needs a little attitude adjusting occasionally. She is current on all shots, tonsils out, and is very healthy happy (mostly). Gets along well with other little girls little boys but does not like to share her toys and therefore would do best in a one child household. She is a very quick learner and is currently working on her house training-shouldn't take long at all.We really do LOVE our children so much and want to do what's right for them; that is why we contacted a rescue group. But we simply can no longer keep them. Also, we are afraid that they may hurt our new puppy. I hope you understand that ours is a UNIQUE situation and we have a real emergency here!!! They MUST be placed into your rescue by Sunday night at the latest or we will be forced to drop them offat the orphanage or along some dark, country road. Our priority now has to be our new puppy. -- Brenda.http://www.whiskersandwicks.comhttp://www.cheqnet.net/~bksmith "The only risk you ever run in befriending a cat is enriching yourself."- ColetteDon't Take Your Organs To Heaven. Heaven Knows We Need Them Here.This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail."I hold that, the more helpless a creature, the more entitled it is to protection by man from the cruelty of man. " "The greatness of a nation and its moral progress can be judged by the way its animals are treated." Mohandas Gandhi (1869-1948)Paws Come WITH Claws!!!If you're thinking about de-clawing your cat, you need to re-think your decision to acquire a pet. Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page Try My Yahoo!
Re: OT: New addition
Congratuations!Cherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well we have a bouncing baby girl 1.5lbs 10 weeks old, born December 9th.My son names her Sugar, she is not the kitty I posted about with the skin problem, we are waiting a weeks before we pick her up, but she is a doll.I am attaching a photo of her and my son.ENJOY I am sending the link instead, I was unaware that picture attachments are a no noSo James was kind enough to post it to this page... http://www.felineleukemia.org/pets/sugar_cherie.jpg Now you can ENJOY Cherie
Re: OT: New addition
Carla Thank you very proud ;-))[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cherie,Very cute picture, Sugar looks so sweet!Congradulations!Carla
Re: OT: New addition
adorable!!! and I can't wait to see the other new kitty!!! Congratulations!!!Cherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well we have a bouncing baby girl 1.5lbs 10 weeks old, born December 9th.My son names her Sugar, she is not the kitty I posted about with the skin problem, we are waiting a weeks before we pick her up, but she is a doll.I am attaching a photo of her and my son.ENJOY I am sending the link instead, I was unaware that picture attachments are a no noSo James was kind enough to post it to this page... http://www.felineleukemia.org/pets/sugar_cherie.jpg Now you can ENJOY Cherie Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we.
Re: OT: New addition
Compared to the rest of my furrfamily she is a itsy bitsy thing, she is no bigger than my sons foot...Thank you, they do make a cute team ;-))catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Aw! She's gorgeous! Your son's a cutie too! tCherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well we have a bouncing baby girl 1.5lbs 10 weeks old, born December 9th.My son names her Sugar, she is not the kitty I posted about with the skin problem, we are waiting a weeks before we pick her up, but she is a doll.I am attaching a photo of her and my son.ENJOY I am sending the link instead, I was unaware that picture attachments are a no noSo James was kind enough to post it to this page... http://www.felineleukemia.org/pets/sugar_cherie.jpg Now you can ENJOY Cherie
Re: OT: New addition
I can not wait either, then at least I can have two about the same size so they can playall my others are a little bent out of shape right now...it will take a few days and then another one will come in...I am thinking by the time it is over I am going to be the most hated by the residents ;-))they will survive.Barb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: adorable!!! and I can't wait to see the other new kitty!!! Congratulations!!!Cherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well we have a bouncing baby girl 1.5lbs 10 weeks old, born December 9th.My son names her Sugar, she is not the kitty I posted about with the skin problem, we are waiting a weeks before we pick her up, but she is a doll.I am attaching a photo of her and my son.ENJOY I am sending the link instead, I was unaware that picture attachments are a no noSo James was kind enough to post it to this page... http://www.felineleukemia.org/pets/sugar_cherie.jpg Now you can ENJOY Cherie Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous Do you Yahoo!?Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we.
Re: OT: New addition
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Re: OT: New addition
Thank you ;-))Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How sweet :))-- BelindaHappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kitties ...http://www.bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candle Light Servicehttp://www.bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design)http://HostDesign4U.com---BMK Designs (non-profit web sites)http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: OT: New addition
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Re: OT: New addition
Cherie, How adorable Sugar is! It's wonderful to see a picture of your sweet son. Not only is he loving and sensitive, he's handsome as well. How proud you must be. Nina Cherie A Gabbert wrote: Well we have a bouncing baby girl 1.5lbs 10 weeks old, born December 9th.My son names her Sugar, she is not the kitty I posted about with the skin problem, we are waiting a weeks before we pick her up, but she is a doll.I am attaching a photo of her and my son.ENJOY I am sending the link instead, I was unaware that picture attachments are a no noSo James was kind enough to post it to this page... http://www.felineleukemia.org/pets/sugar_cherie.jpg Now you can ENJOY Cherie
Re: OT: New addition
Nina, He is a joy, and thank you for the compliment, I am sure all parents hope they raise their kids rightI personally think the kitties have something to do with his sensitivity.he is a doll ;-)) Thanks again CherieNina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cherie,How adorable Sugar is! It's wonderful to see a picture of your sweet son. Not only is he loving and sensitive, he's handsome as well. How proud you must be.NinaCherie A Gabbert wrote: Well we have a bouncing baby girl 1.5lbs 10 weeks old, born December 9th.My son names her Sugar, she is not the kitty I posted about with the skin problem, we are waiting a weeks before we pick her up, but she is a doll.I am attaching a photo of her and my son.ENJOY I am sending the link instead, I was unaware that picture attachments are a no noSo James was kind enough to post it to this page... http://www.felineleukemia.org/pets/sugar_cherie.jpg Now you can ENJOY Cherie
Re: New addition
A! How cute! - Original Message - From: Cherie A Gabbert To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:52 AM Subject: OT: New addition Well we have a bouncing baby girl 1.5lbs 10 weeks old, born December 9th.My son names her Sugar, she is not the kitty I posted about with the skin problem, we are waiting a weeks before we pick her up, but she is a doll.I am attaching a photo of her and my son.ENJOY I am sending the link instead, I was unaware that picture attachments are a no noSo James was kind enough to post it to this page... http://www.felineleukemia.org/pets/sugar_cherie.jpg Now you can ENJOY Cherie
ot: need websites for cats w/ kidney failure
The vet for my sister's maine coon mix feels her cat is in kidney failure. he suggested hydrating the cat for 48 hours at office to see if can jumpstart him. ($600) and then maybe maybe she can learn to do it at home. (by herself I doubt it and the other problem is she travels frequently for her job). I dont' know his age(she lives a few states away from me but would imagine less than 10?) he was a rescue and she's had him several years. does anyone know some good websites or yahoo group for this? thank you in advance. barbara
Fwd: URGENT - Need ASAP placement for Diabetic Cat
This is in Georgia.Caroline [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2005 13:00:52 -0800 (PST)From: Caroline <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Subject: URGENT - Need ASAP placement for Diabetic CatTo: Atlanta Rescue <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>,SpotGroup <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]Saki - 4.5 yr old 20 DSH gray. Extremely loving kitty. Good with othercats, doesnt mind dogs. Fully vetted. recently diagnosed as Diabetic Please let me know ASAP if you can help
Re: New addition
Thank you ;-))Terri Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A! How cute! - Original Message - From: Cherie A Gabbert To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 9:52 AM Subject: OT: New addition Well we have a bouncing baby girl 1.5lbs 10 weeks old, born December 9th.My son names her Sugar, she is not the kitty I posted about with the skin problem, we are waiting a weeks before we pick her up, but she is a doll.I am attaching a photo of her and my son.ENJOY I am sending the link instead, I was unaware that picture attachments are a no noSo James was kind enough to post it to this page... http://www.felineleukemia.org/pets/sugar_cherie.jpg Now you can ENJOY Cherie
Re: ot: need websites for cats w/ kidney failure
How about this one... http://www.wholisticanimal.com/kidneyfailure.asp CherieBarbara Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The vet for my sister's maine coon mix feels her cat is in kidney failure.he suggested hydrating the cat for 48 hours at office to see if canjumpstart him. ($600) and then maybe maybe she can learn to do it at home.(by herself I doubt it and the other problem is she travels frequently forher job). I dont' know his age(she lives a few states away from me but wouldimagine less than 10?) he was a rescue and she's had him several years. doesanyone know some good websites or yahoo group for this? thank you inadvance.barbara
Re: ot: need websites for cats w/ kidney failure
Thank you all. I am forwarding all the links to her. just found out Hamish is 12! barbara - Original Message - From: Cherie A Gabbert To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 4:28 PM Subject: Re: ot: need websites for cats w/ kidney failure How about this one... http://www.wholisticanimal.com/kidneyfailure.asp CherieBarbara Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The vet for my sister's maine coon mix feels her cat is in kidney failure.he suggested hydrating the cat for 48 hours at office to see if canjumpstart him. ($600) and then maybe maybe she can learn to do it at home.(by herself I doubt it and the other problem is she travels frequently forher job). I dont' know his age(she lives a few states away from me but wouldimagine less than 10?) he was a rescue and she's had him several years. doesanyone know some good websites or yahoo group for this? thank you inadvance.barbara
Re: Gypsy
can anyone please tell me how to get out of this group. It is a great group, I just can't deal with all the Emails, and I can't figure out how to get out.
Re: ot: need websites for cats w/ kidney failure
can anyone please tell me how to get out of this group. It is a great group, I just can't deal with all the Emails, and I can't figure out how to get out.
Re: URGENT - Need ASAP placement for Diabetic Cat
can anyone please tell me how to get out of this group. It is a great group, I just can't deal with all the Emails, and I can't figure out how to get out.
Re: OT: New addition
can anyone please tell me how to get out of this group. It is a great group, I just can't deal with all the Emails, and I can't figure out how to get out.
Re: OT: New addition
i usually find that my boy cats are the best protectors of the little ones! MC Cherie A Gabbert wrote: I know, it is just tough the first few days, especially because this is the smallest I have ever hadI am worried about someone sitting on her head lol. TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: aww, what a sweetie! my cats have reached the point where another cat comes into the house, they roll their eyes, and just sigh. (i think that they remember that if their mother weren't the type to take in new ones, most of them wouldn't be here either!) MC Cherie A Gabbert wrote: I can not wait either, then at least I can have two about the same size so they can playall my others are a little bent out of shape right now...it will take a few days and then another one will come in...I am thinking by the time it is over I am going to be the most hated by the residents ;-))they will survive. Barb Moermond [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: adorable!!! and I can't wait to see the other new kitty!!! Congratulations!!! Cherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well we have a bouncing baby girl 1.5lbs 10 weeks old, born December 9th.My son names her Sugar, she is not the kitty I posted about with the skin problem, we are waiting a weeks before we pick her up, but she is a doll.I am attaching a photo of her and my son.ENJOY I am sending the link instead, I was unaware that picture attachments are a no noSo James was kind enough to post it to this page... http://www.felineleukemia.org/pets/sugar_cherie.jpg Now you can ENJOY Cherie Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito "My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile." - Anonymous Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail - You care about security. So do we. No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 2/14/2005 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 2/14/2005 No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 2/14/2005 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 2/14/2005
Re: Gary - Immunoregulin
LOL! So true. I use a house call vet for my feral dogs.TenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: another thing is to look for house-call vets--there are FOUR of them in my town, and it makes a tremendous difference in the stress level involved in vet visits. my cats generally stay calm, it's just the vet who needs to be tranquilizedMCNina wrote: A lot of vets do not like to send home drawn injections, though. If you have a vet that doesn't want to give you med injections to administer at home, appeal to them, argue with them and if they still don't want to trust you to do it, find another vet. It makes a world of difference in reducing stress. I hate having to give shots and syringe meds, but at least they don't have to spend time at the vets, or get dragged back and forth. Nina -- No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 2/14/2005
Re: question
why is DD overgrooming? is she stressed? showing signs of allergy? hives? hot spots? house too dry?(a common problem in wintertime when heat is on) what supplements is she on? (anything for skin or immune system?) clancy my positive develops small bumps all over and loses his fur--and the first sign is the overgrooming and scratching(we can hear him licking a room away). i read in the book Veterinarians guide to natural remedies about several things to try and used VitB 6 25 milligrams 1x day( along with his maintainence supplements of Mega C+, vit e 200 iu, A D 1x week, and that terrible smelling fish oil supplement.) went thru a small bottle of the b6 and he's been fine for more than a month now. i guess i would be worried about any dosage of pred in case the overgrooming was a sign of stress or the immune system going out of whack...in which case the pred would be throwing gasoline on the fire, so to speak. have you changed foods lately? been using any household chemicals that might be irritating her system? is that dr. specialist that was answering questions on the list still available? (my memory is shot and i even take gingko to help when i remember to take them...) gnite barbara - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 7:46 PM Subject: question Hi all, I'm starting to wonder if my vets are very up to date on felv My positive, DD, is overgrooming. I haven't taken her in yet, but when I was in with Lovey on Saturday I asked her about it and she suggested using pred. She said as long as the cat is asymptomatic it wouldn't hurt to give a low dose. I've always heard this is a big NO for positives. In fact, some of you may remember that I lost my positive CC when I took her in for the same thing and they (a different vet) gave her a small dose of pred. She had overgroomed to the point of developing the neoplasta..whatever stuff. She was semiferal, so I didn't take her in until I absolutely had to. She developed a URI (probably from the office, as no one here had one) and never recovered. I think the stress of the office visit, probably getting the uri from there, and the pred. combined is what caused me to lose her. What do you all think? And what can I recommend for overgrooming if not pred? She's been doing this for a while. The last time I took her in the vet said it wasn't enough to worry about, but it's getting worse. When I told my vet on Saturday that I didn't think pred. was a good choice for a positive she said we could always try some sort of kitty prozac. Is there one any of you think is safe for a positive? Do you agree with the pred. idea? Thanks for any input! Tonya
Re: for Del
Sorry, I don't know what is going on with aol, mail is coming there just not all of it. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Del - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2005 6:34 PM Subject: for Del Hi Del, I need your email. The one you asked me to use won't work. I need to make sure you're aware of Loveyisms before he spends the night. : ) tonyaTenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i'm a chat host at cathobbyist.com, and i just had to find some CRF (chronic renal failure; sorry if most of you know what the initials mean, but i try not to assume!) info for a chatter--i went to yahoogroups.com and did a search--and there are a LOT of them--hard to tell which to try first, but i'd go with some of the larger ones. google is always another good option for resources... (belinda, why am i thinking that you are on a crf list?)here's one that came highly recommended on another list (oh, for all i know it came from THIS list--my memory is getting progressively randomly accessible...): Tanya's UK Feline Chronic Renal Failure/symptomssub-q hydrating at home is so easy (not to mention cheap compared to having the vet do it)--and folks i've known with CRF kitties usually only had to hydrate every 3 days or so, so the travelling wouldn't necessarily get in the way.she could also contact rescue groups in her area to see if there's anyone there she could hire to do the hydrating for her if she really doesn't think she can do it herself--one of my friends has a vet tech do it for her when necessary... another option is to find a cat or dog breeder to help out--that's what i had to do when i was having surgery in the middle of a course of injections for one of my cats MCBarbara Lowe wrote: The vet for my sister's maine coon mix feels her cat is in kidney failure. he suggested hydrating the cat for 48 hours at office to see if can jumpstart him. ($600) and then maybe maybe she can learn to do it at home. (by herself I doubt it and the other problem is she travels frequently for her job). I dont' know his age(she lives a few states away from me but would imagine less than 10?) he was a rescue and she's had him several years. does anyone know some good websites or yahoo group for this? thank you in advance. barbara No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 2/14/2005
Re: Gypsy
Thanks for asking, Michelle. Gypsy's been getting Penicillin injections for 8 days now. She's also been on a product called Nutrigest, (which includes the L-Glutamine you suggested), Thuja, and Vita B12 shots. She's also been on a diet of chicken breast or cod boiled with a seaweed called Kombu and cabbage. Something has helped because she's a bit more active and her appetite has improved. Unfortunately, her bowel movements are still dark and liquid. If she's gained any weight, it's hard to tell, she's still skin and bones. I called my new vet today and she said I might as well take her off the Penicillin. I asked her about sulphur, (someone on the list suggested, I'm sorry I can't remember who), and Arsenicum Album, (suggested by Patti). The vet thought the Arsenicum would be better if Gypsy suffered with vomiting (which is a symptom of IBD that Gypsy doesn't have). She suggested I try "Calc. Phos" and "Nat Sulph" 3 x daily. These are homeopathics and I'm not suppose to mix them in food. She wants me to grind them up and put them in her mouth between her cheek and teeth. Very funny. So I'm planning yet another trip to the health food store tomorrow. I'll let you know how she responds. How's Lucy? How are you? Did you get that link Bonnie sent a while ago about caregiver syndrome and the extreme loss they feel when their loved one crosses? Here it is again: http://www.specialneedspets.org/caregvrs.htm Take care of yourself, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Nina, how is Gypsy doing? I have not noticed a post about her for a while. Michelle
Re: Gary's anemia treatment
You know Jill, I couldn't help but notice that Doxycycline was one of the things you put Gary on. I don't like the stuff because of the potential side effects, but it was the only thing I put Grace on the first time she crashed with anemia symptoms and she bounced back, (even though her blood work didn't indicate parasites). The blood transfusion had to help Gary. I really hate the idea of steroids, even if they make her feel more perky, it's just too hard on the immune system. I'm sending prayers and good wishes for the whole family. How is Melange responding to treatment? Nina Jill Poe wrote: Nina, I know what you mean about trying everything. This was kind of like Well, she's going to die regardless so let's just try everything, even if it's not necessarily indicated for her exact situation. Maybe something will stick! I don't mean to sound negative, but we really had little reason to believe that she would pull through this. I kind of think it's not the Epogen - just because the Rx says it takes weeks to take affect. So I'm led to believe the blood transfusion and steroids (as well as the food she's now eating thanks to the stimulants) are helping. But it's hard to say about the steroids and how much they are playing a part in her feeling good. I had the flu a few months ago and within 2 hours of my first symtoms I took about 5 medications (2 of them homeopathic). I was cured the next morning! I know it's probably not the best way to treat things - I figured if the medicines didn't kill me they'd make me better - it's worked for me and Gary now! I *would* like to slowly get her off stuff so that her liver isn't stressed and switch her over to mostly homeopathic remedies. Jill __ Jill, I'm filing this one too, thank you. We try so many things, and when they're crashing, we try them all at once. It would be nice to know which ones, or, if all, are what helps pull them through. I'm so glad Gary is feeling better. Nina __ Do you Yahoo!? All your favorites on one personal page Try My Yahoo! http://my.yahoo.com
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