Re: how much lactulose is safe to give?

2005-07-09 Thread Lernermichelle


I do not think there is any problem with trying pumpkin and slipper elm at the same time. They are both used to regulate both constipation and diarrhea, so I do not think giving both at the same time could cause diarrhea. It might be a good idea to try both at the same time.

Michelle


Re: Bramble still mild seizures

2005-07-09 Thread felv



Good luck with the ringworm, and Buddy's 
sickness. I, too, hope it's not anything that will get passed around 
again!
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must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker 
collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free 
can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!

If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address 
you can send them to, to help feed Bazil!
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OT: Check out Best Friends News Top Stories

2005-07-09 Thread Lernermichelle


I know I am supposed to post this stuff on an OT list serve, but I am not on the OT list serve, do not have the address anymore, and do not really want to be on it. But I thought I should pass this info on. Please don't respond to discuss on this list serve, but instead discuss if you want on the other OT list serve. But I thought you should have/know this info.

PETA has apparently been killing animals they said they would find homes for, and dumping them in dumpsters, or at least PETA employees. Apparently PETA is opposed to the No More Homeless Pets movement spearheaded very successfully by Best Friends.

Click here: Best Friends News  Top Stories 

Michelle 


Re: canned pumpkin for constipation

2005-07-09 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
I just do a table spoon out of the can no water.BONNIE J KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
About how much is given? It's mixed with water, yes?Thanks, Bonniewww.elephants.comHave a purrfect day
Cherie


Re: canned pumpkin for constipation

2005-07-09 Thread BONNIE J KALMBACH
Cherie,
Thanks does this work when a cat is severely constipated?

Bonnie

 www.elephants.com

- Original Message -
From: Cherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Saturday, July 9, 2005 11:02 am
Subject: Re: canned pumpkin for constipation

 I just do a table spoon out of the can no water.
 
 BONNIE J KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 About how much is given? It's mixed with water, yes?
 
 Thanks, Bonnie
 
 
 www.elephants.com
 
 
 
 
 Have a purrfect day
 Cherie
 
 



Re: canned pumpkin for constipation

2005-07-09 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
Bonnie
It worked for Amber. ;-))CherieBONNIE J KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Cherie,Thanks does this work when a cat is severely constipated?Bonniewww.elephants.com- Original Message -From: Cherie A Gabbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Saturday, July 9, 2005 11:02 amSubject: Re: canned pumpkin for constipation I just do a table spoon out of the can no water.  BONNIE J KALMBACH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: About how much is given? It's mixed with water, yes?  Thanks, Bonnie   www.elephants.com Have a purrfect day Cherie  Have a purrfect day
Cherie


Re: canned pumpkin for constipation

2005-07-09 Thread Del Daniels



You do realize that a severely constipated cat can 
go into shock? I have not read all of the posts and don't know how long 
since kitty has not pooped ... can you give kitty an enema? Your vet can 
or sell you the enema gizmo. My Tito was still going some and I didn't 
know he had a problem until he began trying unsuccessfully to poop... 
fairly soon he began vomiting and trembling. He was in bad 
shape.

Del

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  BONNIE J KALMBACH 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 12:35 
  PM
  Subject: Re: canned pumpkin for 
  constipation
  Cherie,Thanks does this work when a cat is severely 
  constipated?Bonniewww.elephants.com- Original 
  Message -From: Cherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: 
  Saturday, July 9, 2005 11:02 amSubject: Re: canned pumpkin for 
  constipation I just do a table spoon out of the can no 
  water.  BONNIE J KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote: About how much is given? It's mixed with water, yes? 
   Thanks, Bonnie   www.elephants.com  
 Have a purrfect day Cherie  
  


Fu's severe constipation was:: canned pumpkin

2005-07-09 Thread BONNIE J KALMBACH
How long should I wait for the canned pumpkin to take effect? I laced 
it with SEB. I'm thinking of taking him to the emergency vet - who I 
don't much trust. I've had bad luck there. The vet gave him a gentle 
enema yesterday because I was so concerned as Fu had nearly died after 
getting an enema three years ago. Fu is 19 and very frail with 
hyperthyroidism and his intestinal cancer is probably out of remission.

I've also done fluids today; he had 100ml last night and vet said to 
give him 100 ml twice a day. I gave him 50 ml early this morning, 
thinking that it might be too soon to give more as the last dose was 
after midnight. I've also given him 3ml lactulose, and Laxaire. I fear 
I may have to go to the emergency vet. I think I'll give the second 50 
ml of fluids soon.

 www.elephants.com

- Original Message -
From: Del Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Saturday, July 9, 2005 2:05 pm
Subject: Re: canned pumpkin for constipation

 You do realize that a severely constipated cat can go into shock?  
 I have not read all of the posts and don't know how long since 
 kitty has not pooped ... can you give kitty an enema?  Your vet 
 can or sell you the enema gizmo.  My Tito was still going some and 
 I didn't know he had a problem until he began trying 
 unsuccessfully to poop ... fairly soon he began vomiting and 
 trembling.  He was in bad shape.
 
 Del
  - Original Message - 
  From: BONNIE J KALMBACH 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 12:35 PM
  Subject: Re: canned pumpkin for constipation
 
 
  Cherie,
  Thanks does this work when a cat is severely constipated?
 
  Bonnie
 
   www.elephants.com
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Cherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Saturday, July 9, 2005 11:02 am
  Subject: Re: canned pumpkin for constipation
 
   I just do a table spoon out of the can no water.
   
   BONNIE J KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
   About how much is given? It's mixed with water, yes?
   
   Thanks, Bonnie
   
   
   www.elephants.com
   
   
   
   
   Have a purrfect day
   Cherie
   
   
 



Re: Fu's severe constipation was:: canned pumpkin

2005-07-09 Thread Del Daniels



Oh, Bonnie, it doesn't sound good for Fu, does 
it. When Effie's lymphoma went out of remission, she was frequently in the 
box trying to poop, nothing came out as she wasn't eating to produce any 
waste. Doc found more tumors against her spine and insides giving her the 
feeling of needing to poop. I do hope that is not the case with your 
kitty. Love and prayers to Fu.

Del

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  BONNIE J KALMBACH 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  
  Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 2:18 
  PM
  Subject: Fu's severe constipation was:: 
  canned pumpkin
  How long should I wait for the canned pumpkin to take effect? I 
  laced it with SEB. I'm thinking of taking him to the emergency vet - who I 
  don't much trust. I've had bad luck there. The vet gave him a gentle 
  enema yesterday because I was so concerned as Fu had nearly died after 
  getting an enema three years ago. Fu is 19 and very frail with 
  hyperthyroidism and his intestinal cancer is probably out of 
  remission.I've also done fluids today; he had 100ml last night and vet 
  said to give him 100 ml twice a day. I gave him 50 ml early this morning, 
  thinking that it might be too soon to give more as the last dose was 
  after midnight. I've also given him 3ml lactulose, and Laxaire. I fear 
  I may have to go to the emergency vet. I think I'll give the second 50 
  ml of fluids soon.www.elephants.com- Original 
  Message -From: Del Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED]Date: 
  Saturday, July 9, 2005 2:05 pmSubject: Re: canned pumpkin for 
  constipation You do realize that a severely constipated cat can go 
  into shock?  I have not read all of the posts and don't know how 
  long since  kitty has not pooped ... can you give kitty an 
  enema? Your vet  can or sell you the enema gizmo. My Tito 
  was still going some and  I didn't know he had a problem until he 
  began trying  unsuccessfully to poop ... fairly soon he began vomiting 
  and  trembling. He was in bad shape.  
  Del - Original Message -  From: BONNIE J 
  KALMBACH  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
   Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 12:35 PM Subject: 
  Re: canned pumpkin for constipation   
  Cherie, Thanks does this work when a cat is severely 
  constipated?  Bonnie  www.elephants.com  
  - Original Message - From: Cherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Date: Saturday, July 9, 2005 11:02 am Subject: Re: canned 
  pumpkin for constipation   I just do a table spoon 
  out of the can no water.BONNIE J 
  KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:  About how much is given? It's mixed with water, 
  yes?Thanks, Bonnie  
  www.elephants.com  
 
   Have a purrfect day  Cherie  
 


Re: Fu's severe constipation was:: canned pumpkin

2005-07-09 Thread Lernermichelle


If his lymphoma is out of remission, I would suggest talking to the vet about putting him on dexamethasone and depomedrol shots instead of prednisone pills. They are stronger and also reduce the need for pilling. They shrink lymphoma. I don't know if you were on the list and following when my Simon was sick. A month before he actually died from anemia, it seemed like he was dying from his lymphoma and the vet would not give him more chemo and sent him home to die, which we thought he would. We loaded him up on steroids (a depo and a dex shot one day, then dex for two more days) and he got better enough to get chemo and do well for another month.

I would highly suggest keeping him on slippery elm. You can syringe it to him by mixing it with water, preferably hot water, until it is a goopy texture, cooling it, and syringing it a few times a day. It really does wonders with intestinal lymphoma. My Josephine had intestinal lymphoma, and the vets were amazed that she never had diarrhea or other bowel problems the whole time. I syringed her 3 cc's of slippery elm syrup (which I made by boiling the powder for a second or two with water, stirring and cooling) twice a day.

Michelle


Re: Fu's severe constipation was:: canned pumpkin

2005-07-09 Thread BONNIE J KALMBACH
Thanks Del - the vet yesterday felt stool inside of him. He did a mild 
enema at my worried urging. But none of the other things I've tried 
have worked last night or today. I'm hoping something will so I won't 
have to go to the emergency room.

Bonnie

 www.elephants.com

- Original Message -
From: Del Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Saturday, July 9, 2005 2:57 pm
Subject: Re: Fu's severe constipation was:: canned pumpkin

 Oh, Bonnie, it doesn't sound good for Fu, does it.  When Effie's 
 lymphoma went out of remission, she was frequently in the box 
 trying to poop, nothing came out as she wasn't eating to produce 
 any waste.  Doc found more tumors against her spine and insides 
 giving her the feeling of needing to poop.  I do hope that is not 
 the case with your kitty.  Love and prayers to Fu.
 
 Del
  - Original Message - 
  From: BONNIE J KALMBACH 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 2:18 PM
  Subject: Fu's severe constipation was:: canned pumpkin
 
 
  How long should I wait for the canned pumpkin to take effect? I 
 laced 
  it with SEB. I'm thinking of taking him to the emergency vet - 
 who I 
  don't much trust. I've had bad luck there. The vet gave him a 
 gentle 
  enema yesterday because I was so concerned as Fu had nearly died 
 after 
  getting an enema three years ago. Fu is 19 and very frail with 
  hyperthyroidism and his intestinal cancer is probably out of 
 remission.
  I've also done fluids today; he had 100ml last night and vet 
 said to 
  give him 100 ml twice a day. I gave him 50 ml early this 
 morning, 
  thinking that it might be too soon to give more as the last dose 
 was 
  after midnight. I've also given him 3ml lactulose, and Laxaire. 
 I fear 
  I may have to go to the emergency vet. I think I'll give the 
 second 50 
  ml of fluids soon.
 
   www.elephants.com
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Del Daniels [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Date: Saturday, July 9, 2005 2:05 pm
  Subject: Re: canned pumpkin for constipation
 
   You do realize that a severely constipated cat can go into 
 shock?  
   I have not read all of the posts and don't know how long since 
   kitty has not pooped ... can you give kitty an enema?  Your 
 vet 
   can or sell you the enema gizmo.  My Tito was still going some 
 and 
   I didn't know he had a problem until he began trying 
   unsuccessfully to poop ... fairly soon he began vomiting and 
   trembling.  He was in bad shape.
   
   Del
- Original Message - 
From: BONNIE J KALMBACH 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: canned pumpkin for constipation
   
   
Cherie,
Thanks does this work when a cat is severely constipated?
   
Bonnie
   
 www.elephants.com
   
- Original Message -
From: Cherie A Gabbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Saturday, July 9, 2005 11:02 am
Subject: Re: canned pumpkin for constipation
   
 I just do a table spoon out of the can no water.
 
 BONNIE J KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 About how much is given? It's mixed with water, yes?
 
 Thanks, Bonnie
 
 
 www.elephants.com
 
 
 
 
 Have a purrfect day
 Cherie
 
 
   
 



Buddy and Bramble

2005-07-09 Thread Lomaxturtle
I went to the vet - I had fun trying to catch Buddy to get her in the cat carrier. She tried to jump off the vet consult table twice - I had to catch her in mid air. We are waiting to see if she will be able to fight off the virus over the weekend - if she does we will leave her for now - if not then we will swab test for calcivirus and get her on interferon omega if it is calici - it probably is as Bramble just got rid of it and I pray he doesn't get it back.

I told the vet about Brambles seizures and she said if they are just staying as mild as they are then we will leave him alone and let it happen as treating them will do more harm that good at the moment - he is still on antibiotics and ringworm treatments and his skin is improving. 

Michelle, Bramble, Minstrel  Buddy


Re: Fu's severe constipation was:: canned pumpkin

2005-07-09 Thread BONNIE J KALMBACH
Michelle,
  I do remember your Simon. Fu is on Leukeran and pred. I was letting 
him eat dry food this week which he likes because he has been losing 
weight. I guess that is what has caused the severe constipation. I'm 
worried that he may soon be too be too weak to try to pass the stool.

Bonnie

 www.elephants.com

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Saturday, July 9, 2005 3:03 pm
Subject: Re: Fu's severe constipation was:: canned pumpkin

 If his lymphoma is out of remission, I would suggest talking to 
 the vet about 
 putting him on dexamethasone and depomedrol shots instead of 
 prednisone 
 pills. They are stronger and also reduce the need for pilling. 
 They shrink 
 lymphoma. I don't know if you were on the list and following when 
 my Simon was sick. A 
 month before he actually died from anemia, it seemed like he was 
 dying from 
 his lymphoma and the vet would not give him more chemo and sent 
 him home to 
 die, which we thought he would. We loaded him up on steroids (a 
 depo and a dex 
 shot one day, then dex for two more days) and he got better enough 
 to get chemo 
 and do well for another month.
 
 I would highly suggest keeping him on slippery elm. You can 
 syringe it to him 
 by mixing it with water, preferably hot water, until it is a goopy 
 texture, 
 cooling it, and syringing it a few times a day. It really does 
 wonders with 
 intestinal lymphoma. My Josephine had intestinal lymphoma, and the 
 vets were 
 amazed that she never had diarrhea or other bowel problems the 
 whole time. I 
 syringed her 3 cc's of slippery elm syrup (which I made by boiling 
 the powder for a 
 second or two with water, stirring and cooling) twice a day.
 
 Michelle
 



Re: Fu's severe constipation was:: canned pumpkin

2005-07-09 Thread Lernermichelle



I understand. I agree that he may need another enema. But if he gets one and it works, I am saying that I think you should put him on Slippery Elm afterwards to prevent this happening again, or pumpkin. I have not tried Pumpkin for this, but hear it works well. I think the Slippery Elm is a miracle herb. It has nutrition value as well and helps the immune system. George Washington apparently fed his troops slippery elm gruel in the winter to try to prevent them from getting sick.

When I mentioned the stronger steroids, it is in case the lymphoma is acting up and causing symptoms not controlled by what he is on, and/or if part of his problem with passing stool is from an intestinal tumor causing a blockage. Dexamethasone is amazing at quickly, though temporarily, shrinking lymphoma tumors. The effects can last a while.

Michelle

In a message dated 7/9/05 4:13:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Michelle, I do remember your Simon. Fu is on Leukeran and pred. I was letting him eat dry food this week which he likes because he has been losing weight. I guess that is what has caused the severe constipation. I'm worried that he may soon be too be too weak to try to pass the stool.Bonnie



Re: Fu's severe constipation was:: canned pumpkin

2005-07-09 Thread BONNIE J KALMBACH
Michelle,
  I will mention dexamethasone to the vet when we go on Monday. But Fu 
also takes methimazole for hyperthyroidism - would slippery elm's 
coating of the stomach impair absorption of his other meds?

Bonnie


 

 www.elephants.com

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Saturday, July 9, 2005 3:28 pm
Subject: Re: Fu's severe constipation was:: canned pumpkin

 I understand.  I agree that he may need another enema.  But if he 
 gets one 
 and it works, I am saying that I think you should put him on 
 Slippery Elm 
 afterwards to prevent this happening again, or pumpkin. I have not 
 tried Pumpkin for 
 this, but hear it works well. I think the Slippery Elm is a 
 miracle herb.  It 
 has nutrition value as well and helps the immune system. George 
 Washington 
 apparently fed his troops slippery elm gruel in the winter to try 
 to prevent 
 them from getting sick.
 
 When I mentioned the stronger steroids, it is in case the lymphoma 
 is acting 
 up and causing symptoms not controlled by what he is on, and/or if 
 part of his 
 problem with passing stool is from an intestinal tumor causing a 
 blockage. 
 Dexamethasone is amazing at quickly, though temporarily, shrinking 
 lymphoma 
 tumors. The effects can last a while.
 
 Michelle
 
 In a message dated 7/9/05 4:13:19 PM Eastern Daylight Time, 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Michelle,
  I do remember your Simon. Fu is on Leukeran and pred. I was 
 letting 
 him eat dry food this week which he likes because he has been 
 losing 
 weight. I guess that is what has caused the severe constipation. 
 I'm 
 worried that he may soon be too be too weak to try to pass the stool.
 
 Bonnie
 



Re: Fu's severe constipation was:: canned pumpkin

2005-07-09 Thread Lernermichelle



I don't think so but I honestly am not sure. I have taken it with other meds and have given it to my cats with other meds and have never noticed a difference. I do not think it coats the stomach long-term, but gets mixed in with the food being digested and helps regularize its consistency. If you are worried, you could give it at different times than the meds. You can also look online for info on it or ask at any health food store. It is a very basic herbal medicine and people working at any health food store should know or know how to find out. 
Michelle

In a message dated 7/9/05 4:56:43 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Michelle, I will mention dexamethasone to the vet when we go on Monday. But Fu also takes methimazole for hyperthyroidism - would slippery elm's coating of the stomach impair absorption of his other meds?Bonnie



Re: Fu's severe constipation was:: canned pumpkin

2005-07-09 Thread Cherie A Gabbert
The canned pumpkin worked on Amber within 3 hours, but she was not in the stage FU is in, I am not sure what to do.Regretfully I would take her to the vet, but maybe not let the vet do anything, maybe they can tell you what to do
CherieBONNIE J KALMBACH [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
How long should I wait for the canned pumpkin to take effect? I laced it with SEB. I'm thinking of taking him to the emergency vet - who I don't much trust. I've had bad luck there. The vet gave him a gentle enema yesterday because I was so concerned as Fu had nearly died after getting an enema three years ago. Fu is 19 and very frail with hyperthyroidism and his intestinal cancer is probably out of remission.I've also done fluids today; he had 100ml last night and vet said to give him 100 ml twice a day. I gave him 50 ml early this morning, thinking that it might be too soon to give more as the last dose was after midnight. I've also given him 3ml lactulose, and Laxaire. I fear I may have to go to the emergency vet. I think I'll give the second 50 ml of fluids soon.www.elephants.com- Original Message -From:
 Del Daniels <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Date: Saturday, July 9, 2005 2:05 pmSubject: Re: canned pumpkin for constipation You do realize that a severely constipated cat can go into shock?  I have not read all of the posts and don't know how long since  kitty has not pooped ... can you give kitty an enema? Your vet  can or sell you the enema gizmo. My Tito was still going some and  I didn't know he had a problem until he began trying  unsuccessfully to poop ... fairly soon he began vomiting and  trembling. He was in bad shape.  Del - Original Message -  From: BONNIE J KALMBACH  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2005 12:35 PM Subject: Re: canned pumpkin for constipation   Cherie, Thanks does this work when a cat is severely constipated?  Bonnie  www.elephants.com
  - Original Message - From: Cherie A Gabbert <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Saturday, July 9, 2005 11:02 am Subject: Re: canned pumpkin for constipation   I just do a table spoon out of the can no water.BONNIE J KALMBACH <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:  About how much is given? It's mixed with water, yes?Thanks, Bonnie  www.elephants.com  Have a purrfect day  Cherie Have a purrfect day
Cherie


Fw: leukemia kitten needs home (owners need education), Tucson, AZ.

2005-07-09 Thread felv



They are not even 
considering that he might just have maternal antibodies. Can someone write to 
these people and educate them? I'm so busy with the Angel Wings cats, I don't 
have time!

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Subject: [HermitageCats] leukemia kitten
Hi Everyone, 
Catalina Pet Hospital called me to see 
if I knew of anyone who would be interested in taking on a 10 week old male 
brown tabby kitten who tested positive for feline leukemia. The owners 
wanted him put down but Dr. Haskell is hoping to find someone who will take him. 
He is doing fine and Dr. Haskell reports that he is very, very sweet. 
If anyone is interested, please give me a call at 744-3357. Thanks, 
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Re: Re:WAS transfer factor NOW Supplements Cats Need

2005-07-09 Thread felv



Cornell is a MUCH better vet school, and has a 
MUCH bigger feline program than most others. Try Cornell next 
time.
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~~~ 
Sheila, I would guess because in the wild they would be 
eating birds, frogs, snakes, and other small mammals, not chicken, beef, 
lamb, and other things that are in the diets we feed them. Different 
meats have different proteins and vitamins. A cat has some very 
delicate requirements and can get very sick if they aren't met. 
Taurine is a biggy, it is usually found in organ meats, atleast in chickens 
(hearts are a good source and also hard to come by), so taurine would need 
to be supplemented. It's a tricky thing and that's why I've decided to 
go raw instead of cooked. I couldn't find ANY source that told me what 
supplements exactly cats would need in a well balanced cook food.I 
even had my vet consult with UC Davis Veterinary school, which by the way 
I'm very dissappointed in. She emailed them at the email supplied on 
their website for consulting and after almost two weeks still hadn't heard 
anything, so she printed everything out and mailed it to them. After 
about another week they finally called and asked some more questions, they 
charge $130.00 dollars for a consult and if my cat was having serious 
problems would have been NO help. I called her and she said they 
hadn't charged her yet so I told her to forget it, and started researching 
raw. I don't have faith in them, their customer service is p*ss poor 
and they weren't getting any of my money, I'd rather make a donation to the 
rescue the vet I've been corresponding with works with. She feeds her 
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Re: Fw: leukemia kitten needs home (owners need education), Tucson, AZ.

2005-07-09 Thread chris

Where is this kitten located?

Thanks,
Chris

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They are not even considering that he might just have maternal antibodies. Can someone write to these people and educate them? I'm so busy with the Angel Wings cats, I don't have time!

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Subject: [HermitageCats] leukemia kitten
Hi Everyone, Catalina Pet Hospital called me to see if I knew of anyone who would be interested in taking on a 10 week old male brown tabby kitten who tested positive for feline leukemia. The owners wanted him put down but Dr. Haskell is hoping to find someone who will take him. He is doing fine and Dr. Haskell reports that he is very, very sweet. If anyone is interested, please give me a call at 744-3357. Thanks, Patty 


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Re: Fw: leukemia kitten needs home (owners need education), Tucson, AZ.

2005-07-09 Thread felv



See the subject? Tuscon AZ.
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html 


~~~I 
collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who 
must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker 
collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free 
can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!

If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address 
you can send them to, to help feed Bazil!
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Re: Misha

2005-07-09 Thread Paul Jr
Thanks for all the great feedback about Misha. I
understand more about her type of FeLV. FeLv can cause
changes in the intestinal wall. Parasites and bacteria
more commonly mulitply and cause diarrhea in FeLV
infected cats. We have found in Misha's case its
bacteria that causes her diarrhea. Thats why drugs like
Flagyl and the cortcosteriods have temporarily
alleviated her problem. I would say, from the feedback
I've gotten from some of you, that because she has this
type of FeLv, that her symptoms are very much like
those of a cat with IBD. I'm so glad that you all have
helped me understand and that I was able to talk to the
other vet (that isn't so pessimistic) at the aninal
hospital where I take Misha. I know now that I don't
have to get rid of my sweet kitty and although the only
cure is a miracle, there is help. Yea she does get
cattitude and I'm going to have to watch her closely
around the baby and it's going to be a bit aggravating
to change her diet to wet food but my other six cats
get attitude and even my tortie bobtail (that sleeps
with us and thinks she's my baby now) is going to have
to be watched around the baby when he gets here.
Thanks again,
Melody (GO GATORS!)

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Re: Flavia (So Sorry!)

2005-07-09 Thread Paul Jr
Kerry
I am sooo sorry to hear about your loss. I love my cats
very much and don't even want to think about a day when
they will be gone. I lost Pumpkin Custard to old age
(18 years) in 2002 or 2003 I think. I still miss the
old buzzard as we started to call him in his old age.
I cuddle with my kitties and tell them my thoughts.
Please know that I will be praying for you and that one
day you will see your darling Flavia again!
Melody

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Transport needed ASAP. 6 FELV+ cats. Knoxville, TN to Bennington, VT (date open)

2005-07-09 Thread Jenn




Permission to cross post widely!

Dates, routes, and times flexible. Needed ASAP, the sooner the better! If 
you can fill any of this route, email [EMAIL PROTECTED] 

Passengers are six FELV+ cats. Rabies vaccines are up to date. Cats have 
been de-fleaed, cleaned up, and should make the trip just fine. Pictures, and 
more info on their circumstances are at: http://ucat.us/AW-FELV/

Carriers provided.

LEG1
Knoxville, TN to Greeneville, TN
69 miles (1 hr, 12 min)
arriving in Greeneville approx 9:00 am

LEG 2
Greeneville, TN to Bristol, TN
51 miles (1 hr, 3 min)
arriving in Bristol approx 10:15 am

LEG 3
Bristol, TN to Marion, VA
45 miles (47 min)
arriving in Marion approx 11:30 am

LEG 4
Marion, VA to Pulaski, VA
50 miles (51 min)
arriving in Pulaski approx 12:30 pm

LEG 5
Pulaski, VA to Roanoke, VA
59 miles (1 hr, 4 min)
arriving in Roanoke approx 1:45 pm

LEG 6
Roanoke, VA to Lexington, VA
54miles (56 min)
arriving in Lexington approx 3:00 pm

LEG 7
Lexington, VA to Harrisonburg, VA
61 (1 hr, 3 min)
arriving in Harrisonburg approx 4:15 pm

LEG 8
Harrisonburg, VA to Strasburg, VA
51 miles (54 min)
arriving in Strasburg approx 5:15 pm

LEG 9
Strasburg, VA to Hagerstown, MD
62 miles (1 hr, 1 min)
arriving in Hagerstown approx 6:30 pm

LEG 10
Hagerstown, MD to Harrisburg, PA
76 miles (1 hr, 16 min)
arriving in Harrisburg approx 8:00 pm

overnight needed in Harrisburg area

LEG 11
Harrisburg, PA to Hamburg, PA
55 miles (57 min)
arriving in Hamburg approx 10:00 am

LEG 12
Hamburg, PA to Stroudsburg, PA
65 miles (1 hr, 16 min)
arriving in Stroudsburg approx 11:30 am

LEG 13
Stroudsburg, PA to Middletown, NY
59 miles (1 hr, 13 min)
arriving in Middletown approx 1:00 pm

LEG 14
Middletown, NY to Kingston, NY
59 miles (1 hr, 4min)
arriving in Kingston approx 2:15 pm

LEG 15
Kingston, NY to Albany, NY
55 miles (58 min)
arriving in Albany approx 3:15 pm

LEG 16
Albany, NY to Bennington, VT
39 miles (54 min)
arriving in Bennington approx 4:15 pm

Foster will pick cats up in Bennington, VT.
Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html 


~~~I 
collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who 
must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker 
collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free 
can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!

If you use KMR, even just one can, please ask me for the mailing address 
you can send them to, to help feed Bazil!
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Re: how much lactulose is safe to give?

2005-07-09 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I've used Slippery Elm for both.  It's supposed to  sooth and nourish the 
digestive tract.


I have used lactulose with my kitty and it worked well.  Can't remember the 
dosage exactly, but think at one time I'd give 1cc morning, 1 cc late 
morning, 1 cc afternoon, and 1 evening or till he went.  Think I ended up 
giving 2cc morning, or something like that.


Gloria


At 07:55 AM 7/9/2005, you wrote:
I do not think there is any problem with trying pumpkin and slipper elm at 
the same time. They are both used to regulate both constipation and 
diarrhea, so I do not think giving both at the same time could cause 
diarrhea. It might be a good idea to try both at the same time.


Michelle