Cricket's Time
Hi Guys, Well I am sorry to report that today is Cricket's last day. He has deteriorated quite a bit and is no longer eating, drinking, taking food via force feeding, and he is barely able to walk. So I realized today that it is time. I am trying not to get emotional right now because I have to get through the day at work. But I do need to ask if anyone has any advice regarding taking a kitty to be pts. Cricket hates needles and will not be happy about it. I know someone mentioned Rescue Remedy, but I couldn't find it at Walmart or Petsmart. I can look at the CVS across the street from my job. Other than Rescue Remedy, is there anything else I can do to make him as comfortable as possible before going or during his visit? Thanks. Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Cricket's Time
Hi Wendy, I just had my Richmond pts, he also hated needles, just make sure they give him a sedative, before they give him the injectionsSorry...LIsa -Original Message- From: wendy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:22 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Cricket's Time Hi Guys, Well I am sorry to report that today is Cricket's last day. He has deteriorated quite a bit and is no longer eating, drinking, taking food via force feeding, and he is barely able to walk. So I realized today that it is time. I am trying not to get emotional right now because I have to get through the day at work. But I do need to ask if anyone has any advice regarding taking a kitty to be pts. Cricket hates needles and will not be happy about it. I know someone mentioned Rescue Remedy, but I couldn't find it at Walmart or Petsmart. I can look at the CVS across the street from my job. Other than Rescue Remedy, is there anything else I can do to make him as comfortable as possible before going or during his visit? Thanks. Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: Cricket's Time
-Original Message- From: Lisa Ward [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:28 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Cricket's Time Hi Wendy, I just had my Richmond pts, he also hated needles, just make sure they give him a sedative, before they give him the injectionsSorry...LIsa -Original Message- From: wendy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:22 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Cricket's Time Hi Guys, Well I am sorry to report that today is Cricket's last day. He has deteriorated quite a bit and is no longer eating, drinking, taking food via force feeding, and he is barely able to walk. So I realized today that it is time. I am trying not to get emotional right now because I have to get through the day at work. But I do need to ask if anyone has any advice regarding taking a kitty to be pts. Cricket hates needles and will not be happy about it. I know someone mentioned Rescue Remedy, but I couldn't find it at Walmart or Petsmart. I can look at the CVS across the street from my job. Other than Rescue Remedy, is there anything else I can do to make him as comfortable as possible before going or during his visit? Thanks. Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Cricket's Time
My prayers will be with you and Cricket I had the vet give Baby C a sedative before the actual injection he went quick and painlessly. see our available orphans at:http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.htmlKaren 817-453-4888
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Hi, You can find Rescue Remedy at a health food store...I don't know if there is an easy way.. Our thoughts and prayers are with you during this time. Kerry and Bandy Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
RE: Cricket's Time
I'm so very sorry, Wendy. Flavia was given a sedative first. (Levi was not given one, to my knowledge, and his pts haunts me to this day.) I believe the sedative helped enormously, as did the compassion of the vet. I can't stress the demeanor of the vet enough---that is so important, in conjunction with the sedative---I've had a truly compassionate and kind vet do the pts and I've had ho-hum vets. And of course making the trip as stress-free as possible. And a quiet room when you get there. Familiar toys and smells in the carrier. And hardest of all, your calmness. Do you have a close, empathetic friend who can go with you? Or be waiting for you afterwards? I'll be thinking of you and Cricket. And wishing the little soul a peaceful passing. I'm glad he knows what it is to be truly loved and cared for. much love and hugs to you and Cricket, Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:22 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Cricket's Time Hi Guys, Well I am sorry to report that today is Cricket's last day. He has deteriorated quite a bit and is no longer eating, drinking, taking food via force feeding, and he is barely able to walk. So I realized today that it is time. I am trying not to get emotional right now because I have to get through the day at work. But I do need to ask if anyone has any advice regarding taking a kitty to be pts. Cricket hates needles and will not be happy about it. I know someone mentioned Rescue Remedy, but I couldn't find it at Walmart or Petsmart. I can look at the CVS across the street from my job. Other than Rescue Remedy, is there anything else I can do to make him as comfortable as possible before going or during his visit? Thanks. Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com hr IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor hr This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Wendy, my prayers will be with you and Cricket. wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Guys,Well I am sorry to report that today is Cricket's lastday. He has deteriorated quite a bit and is no longereating, drinking, taking food via force feeding, andhe is barely able to walk. So I realized today thatit is time. I am trying not to get emotional rightnow because I have to get through the day at work. But I do need to ask if anyone has any adviceregarding taking a kitty to be pts. Cricket hatesneedles and will not be happy about it. I knowsomeone mentioned Rescue Remedy, but I couldn't findit at Walmart or Petsmart. I can look at the CVSacross the street from my job. Other than RescueRemedy, is there anything else I can do to make him ascomfortable as possible before going or during hisvisit? Thanks. Wendy__ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
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Wendy, My prayers are with you...I just had my Richmond put to sleep, please make sure they give him a sedative before they give him the injection.This will be the last nice thing you ever do for cricketSorryLisa WArd -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:49 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Cricket's Time My prayers will be with you and Cricket I had the vet give Baby C a sedative before the actual injection he went quick and painlessly. see our available orphans at: http://members.petfinder.org/~TX418/index.html Karen 817-453-4888
Re: Cricket's Time
I'm so sorry, Wendy. I get Rescue Remedy at the health food stores. Gloria At 08:21 AM 11/9/2005, you wrote: Hi Guys, Well I am sorry to report that today is Cricket's last day. He has deteriorated quite a bit and is no longer eating, drinking, taking food via force feeding, and he is barely able to walk. So I realized today that it is time. I am trying not to get emotional right now because I have to get through the day at work. But I do need to ask if anyone has any advice regarding taking a kitty to be pts. Cricket hates needles and will not be happy about it. I know someone mentioned Rescue Remedy, but I couldn't find it at Walmart or Petsmart. I can look at the CVS across the street from my job. Other than Rescue Remedy, is there anything else I can do to make him as comfortable as possible before going or during his visit? Thanks. Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
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Wendy, Is it possible to have the vet come to your house? That alone would make it much less stressful. Also just curious, how long has Cricket been on baby food, this is not a substitute for cat food, it doesn't have the vitimin requirements a cat needs? Also how much food are you actually getting into Cricket, a teaspoon here and there is not enough and Cricket will die from lack of food if that is the case. When syringe feeding a cat that isn't eating you have to get atleast 180 to 200 ccs of food into them daily if you don't they are at risk of developing Fatty Liver Disease and this will kill them. If Cricket isn't getting very much food it will make weaker and sicker, the weaker and sicker he gets, the less he will want to eat, it is a vicous cycle and food is the ONLY way to stop it. I've been going throught the archives and it looks like Cricket has been getting small amounts of baby food for quite a while, this will not sustain him, he needs real food in real amounts, it is a bit of work to syringe that much food but it could save his life if it isn't too late. There is a Assisted Feeding group that can help and support you in this, you can find them here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/ No cat can recover from anything if they are not getting enough food. Not trying to be mean just stating facts. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
Re: Importation of drugs
Nina, Have you heard anything from your Internist's office about importing Multiferon? Thanks, Gary - Original Message - From: Nina To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 12:35 PM Subject: Re: Importation of drugs Hi Gary,My Internist's office has been very cooperative about helping me and others get special FDA compensations for Interferon Omega, (recombinant). If you give me more specifics, (the name of the drug and company that manufactures, or distributes it), I'd be happy to put in a call to my vet and ask them what they know.Ninagary wrote: Does anyone know what the FDA regs are on importing drugs for veterinary use? I have recently read an article about a study done on FIV+ cats in Italy and they used the natural interferon alpha and found it to be much more effective than the recombinant version. The study also referred to another test done with FeLV+ cats with similar results. I was given a link to a company that imports the natural interferon and it is quite reasonably priced at a box of five,3 million unit vials for $350. The companies rep is not aware of what FDA regs there might be for vet use. You can import a 3 month supply for your personal use but I assume this requires you to fill out paperwork about your condition, etc., and probably a Rx. Gary
Cricket
So sorry to hear Cricket is crossing to the bridge. I had both Tidge and Bramble PTS with a sedative first. I have had good and bad experiences with sedatives before the pts injection but even so I would never pts without giving a sedative first. What I've found is that even if they have a reaction to the sedative they are less likely to be aware than they would be without the sedative. Prayers for Cricket that he will have a peaceful and quick passing. It's never easy but at times like this when you know in your heart they are suffering with no hope of improvement then I feel it is the kindest thing to do. Cricket knows he was loved and cared for and you gave him every chance in life. Having someone to drive you home afterwards is always a good thing. Michelle, Buddy, Minstrel Angel Bramble
Re: Importation of drugs
What's Multiferon? I'm only familiar with Interferon Alpha and Interferon Omega... Thanks - Gloria At 10:02 AM 11/9/2005, you wrote: Nina, Have you heard anything from your Internist's office about importing Multiferon? Thanks, Gary - Original Message - From: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Nina To: mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, November 01, 2005 12:35 PM Subject: Re: Importation of drugs Hi Gary, My Internist's office has been very cooperative about helping me and others get special FDA compensations for Interferon Omega, (recombinant). If you give me more specifics, (the name of the drug and company that manufactures, or distributes it), I'd be happy to put in a call to my vet and ask them what they know. Nina gary wrote: Does anyone know what the FDA regs are on importing drugs for veterinary use? I have recently read an article about a study done on FIV+ cats in Italy and they used the natural interferon alpha and found it to be much more effective than the recombinant version. The study also referred to another test done with FeLV+ cats with similar results. I was given a link to a company that imports the natural interferon and it is quite reasonably priced at a box of five, 3 million unit vials for $350. The companies rep is not aware of what FDA regs there might be for vet use. You can import a 3 month supply for your personal use but I assume this requires you to fill out paperwork about your condition, etc., and probably a Rx. Gary
Re: Cricket's Time
and baby food does not have taurine which is essential to cats. Bonnie www.elephants.com - Original Message - From: Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Wednesday, November 9, 2005 10:03 am Subject: Re: Cricket's Time To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Wendy, Is it possible to have the vet come to your house? That alone would make it much less stressful. Also just curious, how long has Cricket been on baby food, this is not a substitute for cat food, it doesn't have the vitimin requirements a cat needs? Also how much food are you actually getting into Cricket, a teaspoon here and there is not enough and Cricket will die from lack of food if that is the case. When syringe feeding a cat that isn't eating you have to get atleast 180 to 200 ccs of food into them daily if you don't they are at risk of developing Fatty Liver Disease and this will kill them. If Cricket isn't getting very much food it will make weaker and sicker, the weaker and sicker he gets, the less he will want to eat, it is a vicous cycle and food is the ONLY way to stop it. I've been going throught the archives and it looks like Cricket has been getting small amounts of baby food for quite a while, this will not sustain him, he needs real food in real amounts, it is a bit of work to syringe that much food but it could save his life if it isn't too late. There is a Assisted Feeding group that can help and support you in this, you can find them here: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/ No cat can recover from anything if they are not getting enough food. Not trying to be mean just stating facts. -- Belinda Happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties ... http://www.bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candle Light Service http://www.bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com (affordable hosting web design) http://HostDesign4U.com --- BMK Designs (non-profit web sites) http://bmk.bemikitties.com
RE: Cricket's Time
I am so sorry, Wendy.. I can't help crying - Please know that Cricket's soul will still be with you, and he will have no more pain and he will be happier (well..that's what happened to all my passing kitties. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:32 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Cricket's Time I'm so sorry, Wendy. I get Rescue Remedy at the health food stores. Gloria At 08:21 AM 11/9/2005, you wrote: Hi Guys, Well I am sorry to report that today is Cricket's last day. He has deteriorated quite a bit and is no longer eating, drinking, taking food via force feeding, and he is barely able to walk. So I realized today that it is time. I am trying not to get emotional right now because I have to get through the day at work. But I do need to ask if anyone has any advice regarding taking a kitty to be pts. Cricket hates needles and will not be happy about it. I know someone mentioned Rescue Remedy, but I couldn't find it at Walmart or Petsmart. I can look at the CVS across the street from my job. Other than Rescue Remedy, is there anything else I can do to make him as comfortable as possible before going or during his visit? Thanks. Wendy __ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Importation of drugs
Hi Gary, I haven't heard back from my Internist's office, (I sent them an email, it may have gotten overlooked). I called and left a message on the vet liaison's voice mail. She's not in today, so I don't expect to hear back from her any earlier than tomorrow. When I do, I'll let you know what she has to say about Multiferon. Nina gary wrote: Nina, Have you heard anything from your Internist's office about importing Multiferon? Thanks, Gary
DESPARATELY need HELP - pls read!
Hi, everyone, I am desperately needing a help! I rescued kitty who is an adult female and she is the most affectionate cat I have ever seen! She looks very very healthy I took her to the vet for a blood work just to make sure that she does not have any virus and it turned out to be she is Felv positive I am waiting for confirmation test from Antech this morning and I am trying to find her a good home I thought of keeping Ginger and Tsubomi (new kittys name meaning a small blossom) together, but in order for me to keep them together, I need to extend the space, as right now, where Ginger is way too small for two kitties (a big bathroom) I also thought of moving my FIV positive Carl with the rest of negatives, but then, I just found out from FIV list person that her negative became positive from a positive cat (very very first time I have heard of this) now, I am reconsidering moving Carl to where my negatives are as I also have small kittens as well I have a feeling that she is transient and may clear the virus but I feel that I should find a good home for her.. now Ginger is stressed out and worry that it will worsen her conditions as she already has not been eating for the past three weeks and she is very nervous right now (Tsubomi is in a crate and she is not mean at all to Ginger,, but you have to know, Ginger.. she is very sensitive) So the bottom line I thought I never would ask.. but I need to find a good home for my sweetest new baby, Tsubomi I dont want to continue to keep her in a crate, and even if she is out.. the space it way too small for both of them.. and I cant afford to stress Ginger any more than she is already I am SO desperate. I also found out that my baby Gurfankle has a liver problem and lost lots of weights and I also have to deal with the animal control issue Someone, please help me please consider being a mom for Tsubomi as I said,, she is a purring motor machine I never seen a kitty as sweet and affectionate as she is and she deserves better than where she is now Please HELP!!!
FW: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 8, Issue 131
Hi, Stinkys Mom I am desperately looking for someone who can be a good mom for the sweetest kitty (felk positive, but asympatic) any suggestion? Hideyo From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 27, 2005 10:15 AM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 8, Issue 131 Kerry: Thank you so much for this information. I will immediately get in touch with her vet. to have him get this rolling ASAPand thank you for the good vibes and I will keep you posted on how she is doing. Yesterday afternoon she was acting more like her old self but, we have not yet been given the results of the transfusion and still are awaiting the lab work for the second test for FeLV. Again, thank you so much! Stinky's Mom and Dad
Re: Importation of drugs
Hi Gloria, I'm not really clear about Multiferon myself, that's why I've contacted my Internist's office to see what they have to say about it's use. It's something that Gary has been telling us about. Here are some pastes from the lists about it: natural human ifn (Alfaferone) usesseveral human IFN-a subtypes, including IFN-a1, a2, -a8 and -a21 It is reminiscent of some of the earlier studies on FeLV FIVthat usedeither a natural interferon (was then referred to as a 'Cantell' type), or a or hybrid containing IFN A/D subtypes in the late 80's, early 90's. In one of the papers I ordered (several years ago), there were 2 cats that seroconverted from both FIV FeLV. One of the cats had nonregenerative anemia and seroconverted after 90 days of alternate-week treatment and the other had chronic nonrefractory dermatomycosis and had complete resolution of symptoms and later seroconverted to both viruses. If you do a search on "Kemron interferon", it may be of interest. PubMed's good, too. The interferon I'm talking about is called "Multiferon" and is manufactured by Viragen in their facility in Sweden. The distributor I found is Pharmaceutical Solutions, Inc and the contact person I was given is Craig Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] he is the one who would help you import Multiferon for personal (on yourself) use but he says he has no information about the FDA regs for importing for use on animals. That is all the info I have except the pricing which was $350 for a box of 5 vials with 3 million units each. That's enough to do about 1500 cats for a year. it is not approved here, www.viragen.com (the manufacturers site tells you where and what it is approved for. There is a company in the US who makes another brand of natural interferon but they don't sell it at all and it is only available for clinical trials.
RE: DESPARATELY need HELP - pls read!
Title: Message Dear Hideyo If we can figure out transportation thenIwill gladly take your little Trubomi if you can't find a good real home for her. (I don't consider mine a "real" home for FelV kits because my twoboth are also feral---are confined to my second bedroom-10 x 11 feet--and I feel like a jailer.) I also need to say in advancethat if I have to move to UK (a real possibility with a cat's lifetime) then I would have to find another home for her if she remains positive as I would not be allowed legally to take her in. (I would be taking all my neg cats to UK). Plus, I need to get myquarantined catsre-tested before introducing a new FeLV cat. This would spur me to do it--I've been putting it off because of the stress for them, being feral. That said, let me know what you think when you have time to think about it! love and hugs, Kerry -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo YamamotoSent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 11:23 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: DESPARATELY need HELP - pls read! Hi, everyone, I am desperately needing a help! I rescued kitty who is an adult female and she is the most affectionate cat I have ever seen! She looks very very healthy I took her to the vet for a blood work just to make sure that she does not have any virus and it turned out to be she is Felv positive I am waiting for confirmation test from Antech this morning and I am trying to find her a good home I thought of keeping Ginger and Tsubomi (new kittys name meaning a small blossom) together, but in order for me to keep them together, I need to extend the space, as right now, where Ginger is way too small for two kitties (a big bathroom) I also thought of moving my FIV positive Carl with the rest of negatives, but then, I just found out from FIV list person that her negative became positive from a positive cat (very very first time I have heard of this) now, I am reconsidering moving Carl to where my negatives are as I also have small kittens as well I have a feeling that she is transient and may clear the virus but I feel that I should find a good home for her.. now Ginger is stressed out and worry that it will worsen her conditions as she already has not been eating for the past three weeks and she is very nervous right now (Tsubomi is in a crate and she is not mean at all to Ginger,, but you have to know, Ginger.. she is very sensitive) So the bottom line I thought I never would ask.. but I need to find a good home for my sweetest new baby, Tsubomi I dont want to continue to keep her in a crate, and even if she is out.. the space it way too small for both of them.. and I cant afford to stress Ginger any more than she is already I am SO desperate. I also found out that my baby Gurfankle has a liver problem and lost lots of weights and I also have to deal with the animal control issue Someone, please help me please consider being a mom for Tsubomi as I said,, she is a purring motor machine I never seen a kitty as sweet and affectionate as she is and she deserves better than where she is now Please HELP!!! =00IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisorThis email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Hideyo needs help!
Hideyo, I'm assuming you are trying to contact Stinky's Mom because she lives in your state and was kind enough to offer to help with your troubles with Animal Control. I found her email address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), so you can write to her directly about Tsubomi needing a home. I am praying that someone comes forth to help you help this poor little baby you've rescued from the street. She sounds like such a dear sweet deserving soul. Speaking of deserving souls, it would be such a crime if your call for help went unheeded. You've selflessly done so much for so many, at such great expense to your home, finances and maybe even your sanity. It would be a sin if someone doesn't come forth to answer your call in your time of need. I'm praying that someone lets you know very soon that they can help you help Tsubomi. I know it must be tearing you apart to put Ginger under stress when she's been so ill. Much love and hope to you my dear, Nina Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Hi, Stinky’s Mom – I am desperately looking for someone who can be a good mom for the sweetest kitty (felk positive, but asympatic) – any suggestion? Hideyo
Re: Cricket's Time
The main issue is to make sure your vet gives euthasol in the vein. Some vet's give Euthasol (euthasol is pink) or a blue solution in the stomach, and this takes longer to act unless the cat is VERY ill. The blue kind seemed to take even longer to act, and I will specifically request the PINK euthasol from now on. I have had both forms of euthanasia done, and I prefer the euthasol via IV. It works in 3 to 10 seconds, whereas the other euthanasia solution given in the stomach take 30 seconds to a minute (which seems like an eternity when you are holding them and saying goodbye). I have never had a vet offer or give a sedative before euthanasia, in fact, I had never even heard of that until joining this list. All except ONE of the animals I had put down went very peacefully. The one that went bad was a VET mistake, she missed the vein and injected it Sub-Q. It was VERY nasty and heart-breaking, the dog cried and thrashed around for a full 2 or 3 minutes in agony (this was the same vet that told me ringer's solution given sub-q would slough the skin off). God, I hope she's not still in business! Anyways.. back to the topic. Just make sure you have a good vet and it goes in IV. I'm so sorry to hear that it's Cricket's time. I hope his euthanasia is peaceful and painless. The fact that you are researching it shows how much you care, and I'm sure he appreciates it. Jenn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from UCAT rescue: http://ucat.us/adopt.html Adopt a FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/ Adopt a FELV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html Saving one animal won't make a difference in the world, but it will make a world of difference for that one animal. ~~~ I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life. Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula! PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send them to! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/163 - Release Date: 11/8/2005
Cricket and a feeding tube
Hey guys, Per Belinda's information and the website she sent me, I am going to have a feeding tube inserted into Cricket. From the information I read and from the vet, the procedure/tube is not very invasive or bothersome to the cat and it might actually save Cricket; I'm leaving work early to take him. I am having a hard time giving up on him. I hope he makes it through the anesthesia; if he doesn't, he was going to be pts anyway, so we have nothing to lose. Please wish him luck and thank you all for your warm thoughts and encouragement. Thank you Belinda for the information. I really appreciate you sticking your neck out there and offering advice that some might not have welcomed. You are right; Cricket hasn't been getting enough sustenance and I didn't know feeding tubes existed for cats. So I will keep on trying to turn him around as long as he will respond. He is not jaundiced yet, so if he has developed fatty liver disease, we might be able to turn him around. Thank you Belinda. Wendy __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
RE: Cricket and a feeding tube
Wendy, sending you and Cricket my fervent and heartfelt wishes that acting on Belinda's info gives your dear Cricket a second chance. Sending positive and healing thoughts Cricket's way. Let us know how it goes when you get time. We're all rooting for him. much love hugs to you both, Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 12:10 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Cricket and a feeding tube Hey guys, Per Belinda's information and the website she sent me, I am going to have a feeding tube inserted into Cricket. From the information I read and from the vet, the procedure/tube is not very invasive or bothersome to the cat and it might actually save Cricket; I'm leaving work early to take him. I am having a hard time giving up on him. I hope he makes it through the anesthesia; if he doesn't, he was going to be pts anyway, so we have nothing to lose. Please wish him luck and thank you all for your warm thoughts and encouragement. Thank you Belinda for the information. I really appreciate you sticking your neck out there and offering advice that some might not have welcomed. You are right; Cricket hasn't been getting enough sustenance and I didn't know feeding tubes existed for cats. So I will keep on trying to turn him around as long as he will respond. He is not jaundiced yet, so if he has developed fatty liver disease, we might be able to turn him around. Thank you Belinda. Wendy __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com hr IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor hr This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: Cricket and a feeding tube
OMG! Hooray! This is such wonderful news. I was sitting here trying to think of how I could respond to your news about having Cricket pts. It just didn't feel right, and I didn't know what to say. Hooray for you and hooray for Belinda. It never occurred to me to even mention your option of a feeding tube! Things like assist feeding and feeding tubes have become so common place in MY life, it didn't even occur to me that you weren't aware of the option. Whatever happens, you can rest easy that you have done all you can to save your wonderful Cricket! My eyes are filled with tears thinking about how much influence we can have on each other lives and loves. Nina wendy wrote: Hey guys, Per Belinda's information and the website she sent me, I am going to have a feeding tube inserted into Cricket. From the information I read and from the vet, the procedure/tube is not very invasive or bothersome to the cat and it might actually save Cricket; I'm leaving work early to take him. I am having a hard time giving up on him. I hope he makes it through the anesthesia; if he doesn't, he was going to be pts anyway, so we have nothing to lose. Please wish him luck and thank you all for your warm thoughts and encouragement. Thank you Belinda for the information. I really appreciate you sticking your neck out there and offering advice that some might not have welcomed. You are right; Cricket hasn't been getting enough sustenance and I didn't know feeding tubes existed for cats. So I will keep on trying to turn him around as long as he will respond. He is not jaundiced yet, so if he has developed fatty liver disease, we might be able to turn him around. Thank you Belinda. Wendy __ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click. http://farechase.yahoo.com
RE: Cricket's Time
I am so sorry for you loses...But if you give a sedative before the iv, it would be much more peacefull...Lisa -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 1:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Cricket's Time The main issue is to make sure your vet gives euthasol in the vein. Some vet's give Euthasol (euthasol is pink) or a blue solution in the stomach, and this takes longer to act unless the cat is VERY ill. The blue kind seemed to take even longer to act, and I will specifically request the PINK euthasol from now on. I have had both forms of euthanasia done, and I prefer the euthasol via IV. It works in 3 to 10 seconds, whereas the other euthanasia solution given in the stomach take 30 seconds to a minute (which seems like an eternity when you are holding them and saying goodbye). I have never had a vet offer or give a sedative before euthanasia, in fact, I had never even heard of that until joining this list. All except ONE of the animals I had put down went very peacefully. The one that went bad was a VET mistake, she missed the vein and injected it Sub-Q. It was VERY nasty and heart-breaking, the dog cried and thrashed around for a full 2 or 3 minutes in agony (this was the same vet that told me ringer's solution given sub-q would slough the skin off). God, I hope she's not still in business! Anyways.. back to the topic. Just make sure you have a good vet and it goes in IV. I'm so sorry to hear that it's Cricket's time. I hope his euthanasia is peaceful and painless. The fact that you are researching it shows how much you care, and I'm sure he appreciates it. Jenn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from UCAT rescue: http://ucat.us/adopt.html Adopt a FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/ Adopt a FELV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html Saving one animal won't make a difference in the world, but it will make a world of difference for that one animal. ~~~ I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life. Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula! PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send them to! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/163 - Release Date: 11/8/2005
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Re: Cricket and a feeding tube
Wendy, I am glad to hear you are trying this with Cricket, and I wish him and you all the best. I hope that his hematocrit is holding steady and he just needs sustenance. Michelle In a message dated 11/9/2005 1:10:28 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hey guys, Per Belinda's information and the website she sent me,I am going to have a feeding tube inserted intoCricket. From the information I read and from thevet, the procedure/tube is not very invasive orbothersome to the cat and it might actually saveCricket; I'm leaving work early to take him. I amhaving a hard time giving up on him. I hope he makesit through the anesthesia; if he doesn't, he was goingto be pts anyway, so we have nothing to lose. Pleasewish him luck and thank you all for your warm thoughtsand encouragement. Thank you Belinda for theinformation. I really appreciate you sticking yourneck out there and offering advice that some might nothave welcomed. You are right; Cricket hasn't beengetting enough sustenance and I didn't know feedingtubes existed for cats. So I will keep on trying toturn him around as long as he will respond. He is notjaundiced yet, so if he has developed fatty liverdisease, we might be able to turn him around. Thankyou Belinda.Wendy
Re: Cricket and a feeding tube
Good luck with the feeding tube Wendy, I hope it works for Cricket. Jenn http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from UCAT rescue: http://ucat.us/adopt.html Adopt a FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/ Adopt a FELV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html Saving one animal won't make a difference in the world, but it will make a world of difference for that one animal. ~~~ I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life. Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula! PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil! If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send them to! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.12.8/163 - Release Date: 11/8/2005
Re: Cricket's Time
I agree. If you ask for a sedative first, it will relax and calm him so it isn't so stressful for him. Big hugs. It's so hard to lose them, but know that you did all you could, and Cricket will always love you for it. May his passing be peaceful. Goodnight, sweet Cricket... =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec Salome' =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 - Original Message - From: Lisa Ward To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:27 AM Subject: RE: Cricket's Time Hi Wendy, I just had my Richmond pts, he also hated needles, just make sure theygive him a sedative, before they give him the injectionsSorry...LIsa-Original Message-From: wendy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:22 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Cricket's TimeHi Guys,Well I am sorry to report that today is Cricket's lastday. He has deteriorated quite a bit and is no longereating, drinking, taking food via force feeding, andhe is barely able to walk. So I realized today thatit is time. I am trying not to get emotional rightnow because I have to get through the day at work. But I do need to ask if anyone has any adviceregarding taking a kitty to be pts. Cricket hatesneedles and will not be happy about it. I knowsomeone mentioned Rescue Remedy, but I couldn't findit at Walmart or Petsmart. I can look at the CVSacross the street from my job. Other than RescueRemedy, is there anything else I can do to make him ascomfortable as possible before going or during hisvisit? Thanks. Wendy__ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
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okay, I missed one -- hope the feeding tube works! Terri - Original Message - From: Terri Brown To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 3:30 PM Subject: Re: Cricket's Time I agree. If you ask for a sedative first, it will relax and calm him so it isn't so stressful for him. Big hugs. It's so hard to lose them, but know that you did all you could, and Cricket will always love you for it. May his passing be peaceful. Goodnight, sweet Cricket... =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec Salome' =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 - Original Message - From: Lisa Ward To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:27 AM Subject: RE: Cricket's Time Hi Wendy, I just had my Richmond pts, he also hated needles, just make sure theygive him a sedative, before they give him the injectionsSorry...LIsa-Original Message-From: wendy [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:22 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Cricket's TimeHi Guys,Well I am sorry to report that today is Cricket's lastday. He has deteriorated quite a bit and is no longereating, drinking, taking food via force feeding, andhe is barely able to walk. So I realized today thatit is time. I am trying not to get emotional rightnow because I have to get through the day at work. But I do need to ask if anyone has any adviceregarding taking a kitty to be pts. Cricket hatesneedles and will not be happy about it. I knowsomeone mentioned Rescue Remedy, but I couldn't findit at Walmart or Petsmart. I can look at the CVSacross the street from my job. Other than RescueRemedy, is there anything else I can do to make him ascomfortable as possible before going or during hisvisit? Thanks. Wendy__ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: Cricket and a feeding tube
Hi, I had a kitty that had an inoperable tumor back in 1997 and we inserted the feeding tube...She had it the rest of her life...She had chemo for 5 months once a month and I had to feed her until she was able to eat on her own again..They usually leave them in no longer than a few months, but they decided that she did so well with it they just left it...She lived another 10 months and I must say, they seemed to be very happy times for her...She even would clean the tube after awile...They also told me not to worry if she pulled it out, that the hole would seal up somehow...We never faced that...But I am so glad you are giving it a try...They put my kitties in when they went in to find out that her tumor was inoperable... Feel free to email me if you would like to ask something as to what all I did..It is a great way to give meds too...with small amounts of a/d...She was started on 20cc of a/d several times a day... Good luck and I really hope this works for you lil Cricket.. Kerry and Bandy Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
RE: Cricket and a feeding tube
Me, too I am sorry that I was not thinking of the option when l last wrote to you but I would do the same if I were you I would definitely anything out there before giving up completely! I will be praying that Cricket will bounce back very soon! Love to you and Cricket, Hideyo From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kerry Roach Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 1:37 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Cricket and a feeding tube Hi, I had a kitty that had an inoperable tumor back in 1997 and we inserted the feeding tube...She had it the rest of her life...She had chemo for 5 months once a month and I had to feed her until she was able to eat on her own again..They usually leave them in no longer than a few months, but they decided that she did so well with it they just left it...She lived another 10 months and I must say, they seemed to be very happy times for her...She even would clean the tube after awile...They also told me not to worry if she pulled it out, that the hole would seal up somehow...We never faced that...But I am so glad you are giving it a try...They put my kitties in when they went in to find out that her tumor was inoperable... Feel free to email me if you would like to ask something as to what all I did..It is a great way to give meds too...with small amounts of a/d...She was started on 20cc of a/d several times a day... Good luck and I really hope this works for you lil Cricket.. Kerry and Bandy Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
RE: Hideyo needs help!
Nina - you are making me cry - I have been trying very hard different ways to accommodate every single kitties I rescued.. when I felt,, I can't.. then I find a way to find a room for them.. but this time, I am so powerless and torn - I feel that I am going to risk 35 of my cats (who live at this house) by exposing them to Carl, but I can't keep my two babies at such a small area - I feel I am being cruel that way. Tsubomi is so sweet, though. She is not complaining anything - she is just so happy when I come over.. all she wants to do is just to sit by me or sit on my lap and loves me - she is definitely one special cat - I don't want to lose her, but this time, I really don't know what to do.. and I am so crying.. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Nina Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 11:02 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Hideyo needs help! Hideyo, I'm assuming you are trying to contact Stinky's Mom because she lives in your state and was kind enough to offer to help with your troubles with Animal Control. I found her email address ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), so you can write to her directly about Tsubomi needing a home. I am praying that someone comes forth to help you help this poor little baby you've rescued from the street. She sounds like such a dear sweet deserving soul. Speaking of deserving souls, it would be such a crime if your call for help went unheeded. You've selflessly done so much for so many, at such great expense to your home, finances and maybe even your sanity. It would be a sin if someone doesn't come forth to answer your call in your time of need. I'm praying that someone lets you know very soon that they can help you help Tsubomi. I know it must be tearing you apart to put Ginger under stress when she's been so ill. Much love and hope to you my dear, Nina Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Hi, Stinky's Mom - I am desperately looking for someone who can be a good mom for the sweetest kitty (felk positive, but asympatic) - any suggestion? Hideyo
RE: DESPARATELY need HELP - to my dear kerry
Title: Message My Dear Kerry Kerry, you are a saint thank you so very much for your offer the space they are in right now is less than ¼ of your space that your Felv kitties are in I just fell in love with Tsubomi and I am already deeply in love with her when she was at the vets office everyone kept making a comment as how cute she is I wish I could find a way to keep her with me. Do you haven any real time frame as to when you might have to go back to UK? If you do, and IF you can be a mom of Tsubomi, I would do everything I can to take her back when you go back to UK so that you wont have to worry about that. I may know someone who might take her, but I know that she will also be in a cage the rest of her life and I just cant do that to her, then I would rather release her back to where she came from if thats the case I did request IFA test today as ELISA from antech did come back as positive as well. IFA will somehow tell me how far the virus is in her. You live in Chicago, right? If I have to, I will fly in Chicago with her I will definitely consider it if its really ok with you, Kerry I just hate the idea of not having her already-I know that you are going to just love her, too. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 11:02 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: DESPARATELY need HELP - pls read! Dear Hideyo If we can figure out transportation thenIwill gladly take your little Trubomi if you can't find a good real home for her. (I don't consider mine a real home for FelV kits because my twoboth are also feral---are confined to my second bedroom-10 x 11 feet--and I feel like a jailer.) I also need to say in advancethat if I have to move to UK (a real possibility with a cat's lifetime) then I would have to find another home for her if she remains positive as I would not be allowed legally to take her in. (I would be taking all my neg cats to UK). Plus, I need to get myquarantined catsre-tested before introducing a new FeLV cat. This would spur me to do it--I've been putting it off because of the stress for them, being feral. That said, let me know what you think when you have time to think about it! love and hugs, Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 11:23 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: DESPARATELY need HELP - pls read! Hi, everyone, I am desperately needing a help! I rescued kitty who is an adult female and she is the most affectionate cat I have ever seen! She looks very very healthy I took her to the vet for a blood work just to make sure that she does not have any virus and it turned out to be she is Felv positive I am waiting for confirmation test from Antech this morning and I am trying to find her a good home I thought of keeping Ginger and Tsubomi (new kittys name meaning a small blossom) together, but in order for me to keep them together, I need to extend the space, as right now, where Ginger is way too small for two kitties (a big bathroom) I also thought of moving my FIV positive Carl with the rest of negatives, but then, I just found out from FIV list person that her negative became positive from a positive cat (very very first time I have heard of this) now, I am reconsidering moving Carl to where my negatives are as I also have small kittens as well I have a feeling that she is transient and may clear the virus but I feel that I should find a good home for her.. now Ginger is stressed out and worry that it will worsen her conditions as she already has not been eating for the past three weeks and she is very nervous right now (Tsubomi is in a crate and she is not mean at all to Ginger,, but you have to know, Ginger.. she is very sensitive) So the bottom line I thought I never would ask.. but I need to find a good home for my sweetest new baby, Tsubomi I dont want to continue to keep her in a crate, and even if she is out.. the space it way too small for both of them.. and I cant afford to stress Ginger any more than she is already I am SO desperate. I also found out that my baby Gurfankle has a liver problem and lost lots of weights and I also have to deal with the animal control issue Someone, please help me please consider being a mom for Tsubomi as I said,, she is a purring motor machine I never seen a kitty as sweet and affectionate as she is and she deserves better than where she is now Please HELP!!! =00IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such
RE: DESPARATELY need HELP - to my dear kerry
Title: Message Thanks, Kerry. Actually, Greg talked to the city attorney who will be representing the city animal control at the hearing he says that if theres no one shows up to complain in my neighborhood, the case will be dismissed, since it was an anonymous call who reported me, no one will show up probably at the hearing and he says, if animals are well taken care of, he does not really care how many I have - he says, some people can only take care of 5 cats and overwhelmed, and other people might be able to care of 200 and they are very good at it still.. and as long as there is no complaint from the neighbor and animals are taken care of, he said we should not worry about it - they want to move these cases very quickly at the hearingso thats a relief - As much as I would like to find a good home for Tsubomi, I also so badly want to keep her with me somehow (thats why I can never get rid of cats) but I will definitely consider to see whats best for Tsubomi and Ginger --and not being selfish - I will keep you posted Thank you very much!! Love and hugs to you!!! From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 4:45 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: DESPARATELY need HELP - to my dear kerry No, Hideyo, no definite timeframe, so if I know that we may have the safety net of you being able to take her back should I have to leave the US, then that makes a huge difference. And, as you say she will not be in a cage (the only way i feel ok about having cats confined to the one room is the knowledge that it's better than they would otherwise have had). Yes, I'm in Chicago! And I have no plans to go anywhere until Jan or Feb (more likely Feb). So I'll just wait to hear from you. (I know you'll want to have little Tsubomi come to her new home as soon as possible.I know you have a lot on your mind right now. By the way a thought re the hearing--could Greg speak also on your behalf---esp as the cats use his place too, right?) I hope this helps a little Hideyo with all the worries you have right now. You do so much for cats it's so unfair that you have all this extra worry. But I think if you go well-prepared with lots of support from authoritative individuals, plus documentation, it will surely go your way. If there is any justice, it will. love hugs, till later Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 5:17 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: DESPARATELY need HELP - to my dear kerry My Dear Kerry Kerry, you are a saint thank you so very much for your offer the space they are in right now is less than ¼ of your space that your Felv kitties are in I just fell in love with Tsubomi and I am already deeply in love with her when she was at the vets office everyone kept making a comment as how cute she is I wish I could find a way to keep her with me. Do you haven any real time frame as to when you might have to go back to UK? If you do, and IF you can be a mom of Tsubomi, I would do everything I can to take her back when you go back to UK so that you wont have to worry about that. I may know someone who might take her, but I know that she will also be in a cage the rest of her life and I just cant do that to her, then I would rather release her back to where she came from if thats the case I did request IFA test today as ELISA from antech did come back as positive as well. IFA will somehow tell me how far the virus is in her. You live in Chicago, right? If I have to, I will fly in Chicago with her I will definitely consider it if its really ok with you, Kerry I just hate the idea of not having her already-I know that you are going to just love her, too. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 11:02 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: DESPARATELY need HELP - pls read! Dear Hideyo If we can figure out transportation thenIwill gladly take your little Trubomi if you can't find a good real home for her. (I don't consider mine a real home for FelV kits because my twoboth are also feral---are confined to my second bedroom-10 x 11 feet--and I feel like a jailer.) I also need to say in advancethat if I have to move to UK (a real possibility with a cat's lifetime) then I would have to find another home for her if she remains positive as I would not be allowed legally to take her in. (I would be taking all my neg cats to UK). Plus, I need to get myquarantined catsre-tested before introducing a new FeLV cat. This would spur me to do it--I've been putting it off because of the stress for them, being feral. That said, let me know what you think when you have time to think about it!
Re: DESPARATELY need HELP - to my dear kerry
Hideyo, We've talked before about sharing the same problems with being able to adopt out our charges, how we fall in love and don't want to part with them. I look for impossibly good homes for them, (homes like the ones on this board), end up not finding them, and surprise, surprise, my personal household keeps growing. I think you've hit it on the head when you said that you have to try not to be selfish about Tsubomi. Maybe this is part of your life's lesson; to be able to love from a distance. If you think about it, it makes perfect sense. I think it's part of why we have such a hard time accepting death, even though the two of us are convinced that life doesn't end when we die and that once loved, we are never truly separated. I'm very happy to hear that the city attorney seems to think that all will go well at the hearing. Until it's over though, it's still so nerve racking! I would suggest preparing for your case as ardently as you would, if you expected to lose. Just in case it's necessary, you want to be armed with evidence of giving your cats a good home. Blessings to our friend Kerry for opening up her home to sweet Tsubomi. I'm sending you both long-distance love and support, call anytime, Nina Hideyo Yamamoto wrote: Message Thanks, Kerry. Actually, Greg talked to the city attorney who will be representing the city animal control at the hearing he says that if theres no one shows up to complain in my neighborhood, the case will be dismissed, since it was an anonymous call who reported me, no one will show up probably at the hearing and he says, if animals are well taken care of, he does not really care how many I have - he says, some people can only take care of 5 cats and overwhelmed, and other people might be able to care of 200 and they are very good at it still.. and as long as there is no complaint from the neighbor and animals are taken care of, he said we should not worry about it - they want to move these cases very quickly at the hearingso thats a relief - As much as I would like to find a good home for Tsubomi, I also so badly want to keep her with me somehow (thats why I can never get rid of cats) but I will definitely consider to see whats best for Tsubomi and Ginger --and not being selfish - I will keep you posted Thank you very much!! Love and hugs to you!!!
RE: Another crsis - need prayers!
Title: Message OK, everyone, I need more prayers as I just found out another crisis. I have taken care of 4 cats who belongs to a persons sister I work with in the past as she was going through de-tox program I just found out from jack (my co-worker) that, Carol (his sister) got arrested mpw, and her 4 cats were taken to the pound I am so freaking out! They are such sweet cats I am so scared for them. Please pray that I will be able to pick them up =00IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisorThis email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
Re: Cricket's Time
Hugs to you Wendy on this sad day. Cricket is sure to meet my Effie along with many other angels at the Bridge. Del - Original Message - From: wendy To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:21 AM Subject: Cricket's Time Hi Guys,Well I am sorry to report that today is Cricket's lastday. He has deteriorated quite a bit and is no longereating, drinking, taking food via force feeding, andhe is barely able to walk. So I realized today thatit is time. I am trying not to get emotional rightnow because I have to get through the day at work. But I do need to ask if anyone has any adviceregarding taking a kitty to be pts. Cricket hatesneedles and will not be happy about it. I knowsomeone mentioned Rescue Remedy, but I couldn't findit at Walmart or Petsmart. I can look at the CVSacross the street from my job. Other than RescueRemedy, is there anything else I can do to make him ascomfortable as possible before going or during hisvisit? Thanks. Wendy__ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
RE: DESPARATELY need HELP - to my dear kerry
Oh Hideyo, that sounds very promising Sending all sorts of GLOW and love and support your way! --- Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Kerry. Actually, Greg talked to the city attorney who will be representing the city animal control at the hearing - he says that if there's no one shows up to complain in my neighborhood, the case will be dismissed, since it was an anonymous call who reported me, no one will show up probably at the hearing - and he says, if animals are well taken care of, he does not really care how many I have - he says, some people can only take care of 5 cats and overwhelmed, and other people might be able to care of 200 and they are very good at it still..- and as long as there is no complaint from the neighbor and animals are taken care of, he said we should not worry about it - they want to move these cases very quickly at the hearing...so that's a relief - As much as I would like to find a good home for Tsubomi, I also so badly want to keep her with me somehow (that's why I can never get rid of cats) - but I will definitely consider to see what's best for Tsubomi and Ginger --and not being selfish - I will keep you posted - Thank you very much!! Love and hugs to you!!! _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 4:45 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: DESPARATELY need HELP - to my dear kerry No, Hideyo, no definite timeframe, so if I know that we may have the safety net of you being able to take her back should I have to leave the US, then that makes a huge difference. And, as you say she will not be in a cage (the only way i feel ok about having cats confined to the one room is the knowledge that it's better than they would otherwise have had). Yes, I'm in Chicago! And I have no plans to go anywhere until Jan or Feb (more likely Feb). So I'll just wait to hear from you. (I know you'll want to have little Tsubomi come to her new home as soon as possible.I know you have a lot on your mind right now. By the way a thought re the hearing--could Greg speak also on your behalf---esp as the cats use his place too, right?) I hope this helps a little Hideyo with all the worries you have right now. You do so much for cats it's so unfair that you have all this extra worry. But I think if you go well-prepared with lots of support from authoritative individuals, plus documentation, it will surely go your way. If there is any justice, it will. love hugs, till later Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 5:17 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: DESPARATELY need HELP - to my dear kerry My Dear Kerry - Kerry, you are a saint - thank you so very much for your offer - the space they are in right now is less than ¼ of your space that your Felv kitties are in - I just fell in love with Tsubomi and I am already deeply in love with her - when she was at the vet's office - everyone kept making a comment as how cute she is - I wish I could find a way to keep her with me. Do you haven any real time frame as to when you might have to go back to UK? If you do, and IF you can be a mom of Tsubomi, I would do everything I can to take her back when you go back to UK so that you won't have to worry about that. I may know someone who might take her, but I know that she will also be in a cage the rest of her life and I just can't do that to her, then I would rather release her back to where she came from if that's' the case- I did request IFA test today as ELISA from antech did come back as positive as well. IFA will somehow tell me how far the virus is in her. You live in Chicago, right? If I have to, I will fly in Chicago with her - I will definitely consider it if it's really ok with you, Kerry - I just hate the idea of not having her already-I know that you are going to just love her, too. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 11:02 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: DESPARATELY need HELP - pls read! Dear Hideyo If we can figure out transportation then I will gladly take your little Trubomi if you can't find a good real home for her. (I don't consider mine a real home for FelV kits because my twoboth are also feral---are confined to my second bedroom-10 x 11 feet--and I feel like a jailer.) I also need to say in advance that if I have to move to UK (a real possibility with a cat's lifetime) then I would have to find another home for her if she remains positive as I would not be allowed legally to take her in. (I would be taking all my
RE: DESPARATELY need HELP - to my dear kerry
Ok, dumb Brit Q coming upwhat does GLOW stand for, Barb?! (Only been trying to figure it out for a year!) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb Moermond Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: DESPARATELY need HELP - to my dear kerry Oh Hideyo, that sounds very promising Sending all sorts of GLOW and love and support your way! --- Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Kerry. Actually, Greg talked to the city attorney who will be representing the city animal control at the hearing - he says that if there's no one shows up to complain in my neighborhood, the case will be dismissed, since it was an anonymous call who reported me, no one will show up probably at the hearing - and he says, if animals are well taken care of, he does not really care how many I have - he says, some people can only take care of 5 cats and overwhelmed, and other people might be able to care of 200 and they are very good at it still..- and as long as there is no complaint from the neighbor and animals are taken care of, he said we should not worry about it - they want to move these cases very quickly at the hearing...so that's a relief - As much as I would like to find a good home for Tsubomi, I also so badly want to keep her with me somehow (that's why I can never get rid of cats) - but I will definitely consider to see what's best for Tsubomi and Ginger --and not being selfish - I will keep you posted - Thank you very much!! Love and hugs to you!!! _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 4:45 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: DESPARATELY need HELP - to my dear kerry No, Hideyo, no definite timeframe, so if I know that we may have the safety net of you being able to take her back should I have to leave the US, then that makes a huge difference. And, as you say she will not be in a cage (the only way i feel ok about having cats confined to the one room is the knowledge that it's better than they would otherwise have had). Yes, I'm in Chicago! And I have no plans to go anywhere until Jan or Feb (more likely Feb). So I'll just wait to hear from you. (I know you'll want to have little Tsubomi come to her new home as soon as possible.I know you have a lot on your mind right now. By the way a thought re the hearing--could Greg speak also on your behalf---esp as the cats use his place too, right?) I hope this helps a little Hideyo with all the worries you have right now. You do so much for cats it's so unfair that you have all this extra worry. But I think if you go well-prepared with lots of support from authoritative individuals, plus documentation, it will surely go your way. If there is any justice, it will. love hugs, till later Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 5:17 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: DESPARATELY need HELP - to my dear kerry My Dear Kerry - Kerry, you are a saint - thank you so very much for your offer - the space they are in right now is less than ¼ of your space that your Felv kitties are in - I just fell in love with Tsubomi and I am already deeply in love with her - when she was at the vet's office - everyone kept making a comment as how cute she is - I wish I could find a way to keep her with me. Do you haven any real time frame as to when you might have to go back to UK? If you do, and IF you can be a mom of Tsubomi, I would do everything I can to take her back when you go back to UK so that you won't have to worry about that. I may know someone who might take her, but I know that she will also be in a cage the rest of her life and I just can't do that to her, then I would rather release her back to where she came from if that's' the case- I did request IFA test today as ELISA from antech did come back as positive as well. IFA will somehow tell me how far the virus is in her. You live in Chicago, right? If I have to, I will fly in Chicago with her - I will definitely consider it if it's really ok with you, Kerry - I just hate the idea of not having her already-I know that you are going to just love her, too. _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 11:02 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: DESPARATELY need HELP - pls read! Dear Hideyo If we can figure out transportation then I will gladly take your little Trubomi if you can't find a good real home for her. (I don't consider mine a real home for FelV kits because my twoboth are also
RE: risk of contagion Q
I started with one, and after a few years brought in another positive. It made no difference to anyone's status. t"MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Gloria--- you mix yours--- but you say they're "indoors", meaningthey don't come into contact with unknown cats who may have Felv. Ok, sonext Q, and this time it's pertinent to my own dilemma: Is your thinking that your healthy cats have successfully stayed negwhile living alongside your positives. BUT if you introduce a new FeLV(or if they came into contact ouside with a positive) that mightchange--they might contract FeLV that's a different strain??I ask because I have one negative living with my one positive, away fromthe other negs.I worry about fostering another FeLV in case the neg *becomes* positivethru the new cat.(I'm also harboring a tiny hope that either the pos cat may have becomeneg in recent months OR his July 2004 test may have been wrong---he hasalways seemed so healthy while with me...(he was in the hospital beforehe came to me but was reported not to be positive then.)All responses/opinions welcome!
Re: Need all your prayers - please!!
Hideyo, I know this has got to be awful for you. Are you able to move? Could you put half your guys at your boyfriend's house? I know we have a limit here where I live, but because so many of my cats look alike (to animal control officers) and so many run and hide when someone comes over.. they would never know how many I actually have unless my vet ratted me out tHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, everyone I am in a situations where I need all your prayers! I mentioned to you a couple of weeks ago, where the animal control came over regarding having the multiple cats at my house. Well, based on the current ordinance, I could only have 5 animals even with a permit (they have a very stupid way to calculate it) so, now I have to go to a hearing. According to the city attorney, unless my neighbors has any objections (which no one does), they usually allow you to have up to 15 animals I have to now go to a hearing and present my case everyone, please pray that everything will go well and they wont take my babies away from me! I dont know what I would do without them! Also, Ginger is still not eating like she is supposed to she sipped on Liver shake a bit, but not much, so I am still force feeding she does not act like she is sick at all, which is blessing I might have to take her for a blood work if she does not get her appetite back to see if anything is going on inside of her.. please pray that she will gain her appetite back very very soon! Again, thank you for all your support!
RE: DESPARATELY need HELP - to my dear kerry
it's a collective term for prayers, vibes, good thoughts, love - whatever you call that power or influence that really does seem to work miracles I picked it up from MC because I think it fits just right for me:) --- MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, dumb Brit Q coming upwhat does GLOW stand for, Barb?! (Only been trying to figure it out for a year!) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb Moermond Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: DESPARATELY need HELP - to my dear kerry Oh Hideyo, that sounds very promising Sending all sorts of GLOW and love and support your way! --- Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Kerry. Actually, Greg talked to the city attorney who will be representing the city animal control at the hearing - he says that if there's no one shows up to complain in my neighborhood, the case will be dismissed, since it was an anonymous call who reported me, no one will show up probably at the hearing - and he says, if animals are well taken care of, he does not really care how many I have - he says, some people can only take care of 5 cats and overwhelmed, and other people might be able to care of 200 and they are very good at it still..- and as long as there is no complaint from the neighbor and animals are taken care of, he said we should not worry about it - they want to move these cases very quickly at the hearing...so that's a relief - As much as I would like to find a good home for Tsubomi, I also so badly want to keep her with me somehow (that's why I can never get rid of cats) - but I will definitely consider to see what's best for Tsubomi and Ginger --and not being selfish - I will keep you posted - Thank you very much!! Love and hugs to you!!! _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 4:45 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: DESPARATELY need HELP - to my dear kerry No, Hideyo, no definite timeframe, so if I know that we may have the safety net of you being able to take her back should I have to leave the US, then that makes a huge difference. And, as you say she will not be in a cage (the only way i feel ok about having cats confined to the one room is the knowledge that it's better than they would otherwise have had). Yes, I'm in Chicago! And I have no plans to go anywhere until Jan or Feb (more likely Feb). So I'll just wait to hear from you. (I know you'll want to have little Tsubomi come to her new home as soon as possible.I know you have a lot on your mind right now. By the way a thought re the hearing--could Greg speak also on your behalf---esp as the cats use his place too, right?) I hope this helps a little Hideyo with all the worries you have right now. You do so much for cats it's so unfair that you have all this extra worry. But I think if you go well-prepared with lots of support from authoritative individuals, plus documentation, it will surely go your way. If there is any justice, it will. love hugs, till later Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 5:17 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: DESPARATELY need HELP - to my dear kerry My Dear Kerry - Kerry, you are a saint - thank you so very much for your offer - the space they are in right now is less than � of your space that your Felv kitties are in - I just fell in love with Tsubomi and I am already deeply in love with her - when she was at the vet's office - everyone kept making a comment as how cute she is - I wish I could find a way to keep her with me. Do you haven any real time frame as to when you might have to go back to UK? If you do, and IF you can be a mom of Tsubomi, I would do everything I can to take her back when you go back to UK so that you won't have to worry about that. I may know someone who might take her, but I know that she will also be in a cage the rest of her life and I just can't do that to her, then I would rather release her back to where she came from if that's' the case- I did request IFA test today as ELISA from antech did come back as positive as well. IFA will somehow tell me how far the virus is in her. You live in Chicago, right? If I have to, I will fly in Chicago with her - I will definitely consider it if it's really ok with you, Kerry - I just hate the idea of not having her already-I know that you are going to just love her, too. _
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Hideyo, Would the limits be the same if you went ahead and got licensed as a 501c3 rescue?? tHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you, I have a letter from my ex-vet who used to care for all mycats for the past 10 years and she is actually overseeing now the vetsection at the animal control division, which I hope to buildcreditability as the letter says how responsible and caring I am for allmy animals.Different officers came to inspect my place a few times and they wereall very impressed with the set up (I spent $45,000 a couple of yearsago and built facility for my cats in addition to my main house -windows everywhere, sky lights, outside enclosures.. etc.. and happy howwell all my animals are taken care of.. but yes I will prepare for anypossible ways for them to complain.I am also going to ask someone I know through rescuing.. she is withAnimal protection service of my state and she has a lot of credibilitywith animal control.. so.. we will see.. I am still very nervous becausethey CAN take them away from me..-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendySent: Monday, November 07, 2005 11:52 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!!Hi Hideyo,I am sorry to hear about your city ordinance troubles.I agree with Kerry that having someone else there asan advocate for the care you are providing is a smartidea. Also, be prepared to disprove with proof thevery reasons they are having you in for a hearing inthe first place (ie. unsanitary conditions,neighborhood disturbance, whatever their reasons maybe). Be well prepared, even overly prepared. This isthe very reason I hope to one day have some land outin the country. The city government won't be able totell me what to do with my life or my furballs. Iwill also say prayers for Ginger to begin eatingbetter again. I am sorry for your troubles and I hopethat things start looking up again. In the meantime,don't let them get you down. Keep going strong.:)Wendy__ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
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Title: Message Thanks forpassing on your experience, Tonya. Reassuring. -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonyaSent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:56 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: risk of contagion Q I started with one, and after a few years brought in another positive. It made no difference to anyone's status. t"MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks Gloria--- you mix yours--- but you say they're "indoors", meaningthey don't come into contact with unknown cats who may have Felv. Ok, sonext Q, and this time it's pertinent to my own dilemma: Is your thinking that your healthy cats have successfully stayed negwhile living alongside your positives. BUT if you introduce a new FeLV(or if they came into contact ouside with a positive) that mightchange--they might contract FeLV that's a different strain??I ask because I have one negative living with my one positive, away fromthe other negs.I worry about fostering another FeLV in case the neg *becomes* positivethru the new cat.(I'm also harboring a tiny hope that either the pos cat may have becomeneg in recent months OR his July 2004 test may have been wrong---he hasalways seemed so healthy while with me...(he was ! in the hospital beforehe came to me but was reported not to be positive then.)All responses/opinions welcome! =00IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisorThis email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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Not good they want a 'list'.
Re: Max 2000? Nov 2005 GA
Ken, I'm so sorry Max didn't recover. Cats can live for years with Felv, but they can also get sick and be gone so quickly. I'm glad Max found someone to love and take care of him. He's free from pain now, but will still always be with you. take care, tonya[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thank you all. This is what i posted on the feline diabetes board. I have immuno regulan coming tomorrow and will donate it to the first person that I get the email from. I wish you all the best of luck and long lives for the ones you care for. Max was put to sleep on my bed in my house with me holding him tonight Normally I named my animals based on what I think fits. Max went nameless for a long time as I got to know him from feeding him outside. It was a last resort name as I didn't have his personality down pat since he was a stray at the time. If I had known him better when I named him, it would have been zoid which would have been short for skitzoid. If I walked the wrong way, he would growl and slink away but then realize it was okay so he would roll and stretch. When he saw debbie he would hiss until she talked to him, Once she spoke he melted. The eyes would go soft, the face would light up and he would go to her and try to give her a concussion with his head bumps. One thing Max did was wear his emotions on his face and body and you would know exactly how he felt at all times. When he wanted to go outside, it was urgent and an emergency and he would tell you and his eyes were narrow and he would sulk. At night, all cats have to be inside the house and it took a 3 day "grounding' of Max before he dutifully learned the rules.If he wanted to go out late and we wouldn't let him,we counted on the zoid part. I would sit on the sofa as he was crying at the door and call him. He would come running over, strech, roll over and proceed to play with me totally forgetting that he wanted to do something else.Zoid wouldn't have been a fair name either. Sparkle maybe because of the sparkles that were in his eyes. Also because of the way he looked at me with such faith and trust even after having his trust and heart broken by the bastards that threw him away. He's better than me that way.Loverboy because of the way he loved me so damm much. All I had to do was sit on the couch, lean back and offer my chest and he was up there in 2 seconds kissing my face and neck. I'm sorry we didn't have more time together Max. I'm sorry for the times I yelled at you. You were so young and happy. I'm grateful for what you gave to me and taught me. I thank you for the love you always gave me. Fly free my boy.
RE: Need all your prayers - please!!
I truly think these ordinances are unconstitutional. How can it be illegal for you to own as many pets as you like as long as you are taking good care of them and are not disturbing anyone. Unfortunately, it takes so much money to battle these things in court. tHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone anonymously reported me that I have many cats - not any type ofcomplains regarding that.. as my cats are all indoors, they don't bothermy neighbors or anything.. it's almost like "personal" thing against meand nothing to do with my animals and that's how I started. Andactually, I was already given a permit from the city last year - so whenthe city contacted me, I told them that I already have a permit - then,they couldn't find the paper work and the officer who gave me a permitno longer is the officer and they told me that he did not follow thecorrect process (not following the correct ordinance as to exactly howmany cats I have) so I have to re-do this all over again.I do have a place that I can take my cats temporarily - I just have todo a lot of transporting.. but I am prepared to do so anyway. It justdoes not make sense to me logically.. my cats and I are not botheringanyone... and cats are treated well.. so why do they care??? If you knowwhat I mean.. we don't remove children from a family just because theyhave too many children..-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendySent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:38 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!I have never heard of anyone I know personally dealingwith what you are dealing with, so I don't know forsure, but if I had to guess, I would think they wouldgive you like 30 days to find homes for however manyover the number they allow you. Then, at the end of30 days, they will probably schedule an appointment tocome by to do a head count. After that, I bet theydon't bother you much and you can bring any kittiesback that kind people have taken in for you for ashort time so that you can pass the head count. Ihope you have family or good friends nearby that willhelp you if it comes to that. Plus, in the future,you don't have to answer the door to anyone fromanimal control if you think they are coming to do ahead count again. I doubt they will hassle youthough. I wouldn't worry about all this just yetthough Hideyo, because you will worry yourself sick. And if they end up allowing you to have your cats,then you will have worried for no reason. How in theworld did this all happen in the first place? Didsomeone complain about your cats?__ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click.http://farechase.yahoo.com
RE: Need all your prayers - please!!
Title: Message I'm missing an email---list of what Tonya? -Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonyaSent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:16 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!Not good they want a 'list'. =00IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisorThis email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: DESPARATELY need HELP - to my dear kerry
Got it Barb! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb Moermond Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:05 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: DESPARATELY need HELP - to my dear kerry it's a collective term for prayers, vibes, good thoughts, love - whatever you call that power or influence that really does seem to work miracles I picked it up from MC because I think it fits just right for me:) --- MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, dumb Brit Q coming upwhat does GLOW stand for, Barb?! (Only been trying to figure it out for a year!) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Barb Moermond Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 8:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: DESPARATELY need HELP - to my dear kerry Oh Hideyo, that sounds very promising Sending all sorts of GLOW and love and support your way! --- Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks, Kerry. Actually, Greg talked to the city attorney who will be representing the city animal control at the hearing - he says that if there's no one shows up to complain in my neighborhood, the case will be dismissed, since it was an anonymous call who reported me, no one will show up probably at the hearing - and he says, if animals are well taken care of, he does not really care how many I have - he says, some people can only take care of 5 cats and overwhelmed, and other people might be able to care of 200 and they are very good at it still..- and as long as there is no complaint from the neighbor and animals are taken care of, he said we should not worry about it - they want to move these cases very quickly at the hearing...so that's a relief - As much as I would like to find a good home for Tsubomi, I also so badly want to keep her with me somehow (that's why I can never get rid of cats) - but I will definitely consider to see what's best for Tsubomi and Ginger --and not being selfish - I will keep you posted - Thank you very much!! Love and hugs to you!!! _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 4:45 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: DESPARATELY need HELP - to my dear kerry No, Hideyo, no definite timeframe, so if I know that we may have the safety net of you being able to take her back should I have to leave the US, then that makes a huge difference. And, as you say she will not be in a cage (the only way i feel ok about having cats confined to the one room is the knowledge that it's better than they would otherwise have had). Yes, I'm in Chicago! And I have no plans to go anywhere until Jan or Feb (more likely Feb). So I'll just wait to hear from you. (I know you'll want to have little Tsubomi come to her new home as soon as possible.I know you have a lot on your mind right now. By the way a thought re the hearing--could Greg speak also on your behalf---esp as the cats use his place too, right?) I hope this helps a little Hideyo with all the worries you have right now. You do so much for cats it's so unfair that you have all this extra worry. But I think if you go well-prepared with lots of support from authoritative individuals, plus documentation, it will surely go your way. If there is any justice, it will. love hugs, till later Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 5:17 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: DESPARATELY need HELP - to my dear kerry My Dear Kerry - Kerry, you are a saint - thank you so very much for your offer - the space they are in right now is less than � of your space that your Felv kitties are in - I just fell in love with Tsubomi and I am already deeply in love with her - when she was at the vet's office - everyone kept making a comment as how cute she is - I wish I could find a way to keep her with me. Do you haven any real time frame as to when you might have to go back to UK? If you do, and IF you can be a mom of Tsubomi, I would do everything I can to take her back when you go back to UK so that you won't have to worry about that. I may know someone who might take her, but I know that she will also be in a cage the rest of her life and I just can't do that to her, then I would rather release her back to where she came from if that's' the case- I did request IFA test today as ELISA from antech did come back as positive as well. IFA will somehow tell me how far the virus is in her. You live in Chicago, right?
Re: risk of contagion Q
I brought my last stray in immediately after her 1st and only (as far as I know) leukemia shot. So it hadn't had time to be boostered and take effect yet. She was "Mama Kitty" from North Carolina. You might remember the story. It was winter and she was better off taking her chances here so I brought her in. As a feral that had been through everything she had been through I just felt she wouldn't catch the felv and she hasn't. It's been about 2 years. tonyaKerry Roach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kerry, I have all my kitties together with Bandy and have since I took him in 2001...He wasn't tested then but since we found out in July about his Felv and Fiv, I couldn't separate them...The others tested neg..except 1 which was Felv + with no symptoms...They haven't been vaccinated inat least 10 yrs...and I didn't re-vaccinate them now either...I guess it is just a feeling that I go with, I don't know...I am not really worried about them getting FIV, but the Felv I don't know about either...I have a 2 yr old that is with him too and he is negative too and wasn't vaccinated until this summer...In my opinion if the kitty has a weakened immune system to begin with then maybe they will contract it, I still read about all of it, too and I just don't know what to believe... Kerry and Bandy Yahoo! FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.
Re: Need all your prayers - please!!
Unfortunately from a legal standpoint it is looked at as a "public health nuisance" when one has more than the generally accepted amount of animals (which differs from area to area). It does not make sense to me but considering "fanimals" (my own term for animals who are family) are classified as property it is the way the law looks at them, at least here in Pennsylvania. Niki P.S. I only learned all of this recently after taking an Animal Rights seminar as part of my continuing legal education credits. - Original Message - From: catatonya To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 10:33 PM Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! I truly think these ordinances are unconstitutional. How can it be illegal for you to own as many pets as you like as long as you are taking good care of them and are not disturbing anyone. Unfortunately, it takes so much money to battle these things in court. tHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Someone anonymously reported me that I have many cats - not any type ofcomplains regarding that.. as my cats are all indoors, they don't bothermy neighbors or anything.. it's almost like "personal" thing against meand nothing to do with my animals and that's how I started. Andactually, I was already given a permit from the city last year - so whenthe city contacted me, I told them that I already have a permit - then,they couldn't find the paper work and the officer who gave me a permitno longer is the officer and they told me that he did not follow thecorrect process (not following the correct ordinance as to exactly howmany cats I have) so I have to re-do this all over again.I do have a place that I can take my cats temporarily - I just have todo a lot of transporting.. but I am prepared to do so anyway. It justdoes not make sense to me logically.. my cats and I are not botheringanyone... and cats are treated well.. so why do they care??? If you knowwhat I mean.. we don't remove children from a family just because theyhave too many children..-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED][mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendySent: Monday, November 07, 2005 1:38 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!!I have never heard of anyone I know personally dealingwith what you are dealing with, so I don't know forsure, but if I had to guess, I would think they wouldgive you like 30 days to find homes for however manyover the number they allow you. Then, at the end of30 days, they will probably schedule an appointment tocome by to do a head count. After that, I bet theydon't bother you much and you can bring any kittiesback that kind people have taken in for you for ashort time so that you can pass the head count. Ihope you have family or good friends nearby that willhelp you if it comes to that. Plus, in the future,you don't have to answer the door to anyone fromanimal control if you think they are coming to do ahead count again. I doubt they will hassle youthough. I wouldn't worry about all this just yetthough Hideyo, because you will worry yourself sick. And if they end up allowing you to have your cats,then you will have worried for no reason. How in theworld did this all happen in the first place? Didsomeone complain about your cats?__ Yahoo! FareChase: Search multiple travel sites in one click.http://farechase.yahoo.com
RE: Need all your prayers - please!!
Title: Message because so many of my cats look alike (to animal control officers) and so many run and hide when someone comes over That's pretty funny Tonya---reminds me of last winter when our building made it mandatory for us to have their contractor come and check all our radiators. I knew the radiatorin the cats' bedroom had a problem but I'd already put off fixing it thru one winter for fear news of my 6furryroommates would leak out. By the time the year rolled around and I'd cottoned on to what "feral" really meant Ifigured I had little to fear. And sure enough, the guy came, checked and fixed the radiator without seeing so much as a whisker (I'd hidden all the cat trees etc so it just looked like a room waiting to be furnished.) All the furballsscooted into the closet as soon as they heard the dcoorbell and didn'temerge till he'd gone. Smart!. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonyaSent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:02 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hideyo, I know this has got to be awful for you. Are you able to move? Could you put half your guys at your boyfriend's house? I know we have a limit here where I live, but because so many of my cats look alike (to animal control officers) and so many run and hide when someone comes over.. they would never know how many I actually have unless my vet ratted me out tHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, everyone I am in a situations where I need all your prayers! I mentioned to you a couple of weeks ago, where the animal control came over regarding having the multiple cats at my house. Well, based on the current ordinance, I could only have 5 animals even with a permit (they have a very stupid way to calculate it) so, now I have to go to a hearing. According to the city attorney, unless my neighbors has any objections (which no one does), they usually allow you to have up to 15 animals I have to now go to a hearing and present my case everyone, please pray that everything will go well and they wont take my babies away from me! I dont know what I would do without them! Also, Ginger is still not eating like she is supposed to she sipped on Liver shake a bit, but not much, so I am still force feeding she does not act like she is sick at all, which is blessing I might have to take her for a blood work if she does not get her appetite back to see if anything is going on inside of her.. please pray that she will gain her appetite back very very soon! Again, thank you for all your support! =00IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisorThis email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
RE: Need all your prayers - please!!
Title: Message When I moved once, in the days with only one cat, I had three burly moving men who just moved thru the apt quickly and quietly. I thought cat had gone into the closet to hide but all of a sudden the biggest of the moving men came running over to me pleading to get the cat from under the bed as he was afraid of her! Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 11:25 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Need all your prayers - please!! because so many of my cats look alike (to animal control officers) and so many run and hide when someone comes over That's pretty funny Tonya---reminds me of last winter when our building made it mandatory for us to have their contractor come and check all our radiators. I knew the radiatorin the cats' bedroom had a problem but I'd already put off fixing it thru one winter for fear news of my 6furryroommates would leak out. By the time the year rolled around and I'd cottoned on to what feral really meant Ifigured I had little to fear. And sure enough, the guy came, checked and fixed the radiator without seeing so much as a whisker (I'd hidden all the cat trees etc so it just looked like a room waiting to be furnished.) All the furballsscooted into the closet as soon as they heard the dcoorbell and didn'temerge till he'd gone. Smart!. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya Sent: Wednesday, November 09, 2005 9:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Need all your prayers - please!! Hideyo, I know this has got to be awful for you. Are you able to move? Could you put half your guys at your boyfriend's house? I know we have a limit here where I live, but because so many of my cats look alike (to animal control officers) and so many run and hide when someone comes over.. they would never know how many I actually have unless my vet ratted me out t Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, everyone I am in a situations where I need all your prayers! I mentioned to you a couple of weeks ago, where the animal control came over regarding having the multiple cats at my house. Well, based on the current ordinance, I could only have 5 animals even with a permit (they have a very stupid way to calculate it) so, now I have to go to a hearing. According to the city attorney, unless my neighbors has any objections (which no one does), they usually allow you to have up to 15 animals I have to now go to a hearing and present my case everyone, please pray that everything will go well and they wont take my babies away from me! I dont know what I would do without them! Also, Ginger is still not eating like she is supposed to she sipped on Liver shake a bit, but not much, so I am still force feeding she does not act like she is sick at all, which is blessing I might have to take her for a blood work if she does not get her appetite back to see if anything is going on inside of her.. please pray that she will gain her appetite back very very soon! Again, thank you for all your support! =00IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe & Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisorThis email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
