Re: Bailey has gone home

[Lance]

Belinda,

When I checked the site before going to bed, I was shocked and deeply  
saddened to see "Bailey has gone home" as a subject,  and to read  
your post. I'm glad that you were able to be with him at the end.  
Thanks to you and to Bailey for all you have given to our beloved  
feline friends. My thoughts and prayers are with you.


Lance

Re: Bailey has gone home

[Marylyn]

You let Bailey go on his own terms.  And with unconditional love.  He is 
very grateful for that.  He will be back to visit you often.  Be very gentle 
with yourself.  You gave him exactly what he wanted.






If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: "Belinda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 06, 2006 11:54 PM
Subject: Bailey has gone home


   Bailey left us at 6:20 this evening.  He took a bad turn for the 
worse late last night and when I took him in this morning for his surgery 
it was evident he wasn't in good enough shape.  We gave him fluids for a 
couple hours because he was dehydrated, his blood pressure was 60 and his 
temperature went from 103 yesterday to 98 today, his blood work was normal 
except his platelet count was low so he wasn't clotting and suregery was 
out of the question unless we could get his platelet count up.  After two 
hours of fluids and a blood transfusion his platelets came up but his 
temperature was now 94, 96 puts kitties at risk for heart failure and she 
couldn't even get a blood pressure.


My vet said we have 3 options, we could continue the fluids and support 
and see if things changed and if they did he could have the surgery 
tomorrow.
Go ahead with the surgery and get in and out as quickly as possible or she 
could euthanise him.


I asked her what she honestly thought of his condition, she said she 
though he was leaving on his own, I agreed.  We talked, I asked her what 
to expect if he was going to die and she told me what the likely scenarios 
would be, she gave me a syringe of pain meds incase it got really bad for 
him, it would basically knock him out so he wouldn't suffer and pass on 
his own, she had a dinner engagement but told me to call if she was 
needed.  I had told Bailey it was his decision to stay or go, and told him 
to do what was best for him.  I brought him home on the fluids to keep 
supporting him and if he did turn for the better we would consider the 
surgery later.  His breathing got worse just taking him to the car so I 
knew in my heart we didn't have long.


We had about an hour, he was home with us and we were with him when he 
left.  He is whole now and FeLV free for the first time.  We were so lucky 
to have him for 11 years, his birthday was Monday.  I will miss his 
bouncy, happy personality.  He was so special and I learned so much thanks 
to him.  He was our only positive and the one that was responsible for my 
learning everything I have about FeLV+, he has helped me save many 
positives and for that I thank him.  I miss my little Baidely boys so much 
already ... take care all.  Give your special guys and extra special hug 
for Bailey.


--

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Re: Bailey has gone home

[BONNIE J KALMBACH]

Belinda,
For all the love and attention you gave him, Bailey knew he was well
beloved. 

Bonnie

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http://savingspaldingpets.blogspot.com/
http://www.bestfriends.org/nomorehomelesspets/pdf/walkforanimals.pdf


- Original Message -
From: Belinda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: Saturday, May 6, 2006 11:54 pm
Subject: Bailey has gone home
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

>Bailey left us at 6:20 this evening.  He took a bad turn 
> for the 
> worse late last night and when I took him in this morning for his 
> surgery it was evident he wasn't in good enough shape.  We gave him 
> fluids for a couple hours because he was dehydrated, his blood 
> pressure 
> was 60 and his temperature went from 103 yesterday to 98 today, his 
> blood work was normal except his platelet count was low so he 
> wasn't 
> clotting and suregery was out of the question unless we could get 
> his 
> platelet count up.  After two hours of fluids and a blood 
> transfusion 
> his platelets came up but his temperature was now 94, 96 puts 
> kitties at 
> risk for heart failure and she couldn't even get a blood pressure.
> 
> My vet said we have 3 options, we could continue the fluids and 
> support 
> and see if things changed and if they did he could have the surgery 
> tomorrow.
> Go ahead with the surgery and get in and out as quickly as possible 
> or 
> she could euthanise him.
> 
> I asked her what she honestly thought of his condition, she said 
> she 
> though he was leaving on his own, I agreed.  We talked, I asked her 
> what 
> to expect if he was going to die and she told me what the likely 
> scenarios would be, she gave me a syringe of pain meds incase it 
> got 
> really bad for him, it would basically knock him out so he wouldn't 
> suffer and pass on his own, she had a dinner engagement but told me 
> to 
> call if she was needed.  I had told Bailey it was his decision to 
> stay 
> or go, and told him to do what was best for him.  I brought him 
> home on 
> the fluids to keep supporting him and if he did turn for the better 
> we 
> would consider the surgery later.  His breathing got worse just 
> taking 
> him to the car so I knew in my heart we didn't have long.
> 
> We had about an hour, he was home with us and we were with him when 
> he 
> left.  He is whole now and FeLV free for the first time.  We were 
> so 
> lucky to have him for 11 years, his birthday was Monday.  I will 
> miss 
> his bouncy, happy personality.  He was so special and I learned so 
> much 
> thanks to him.  He was our only positive and the one that was 
> responsible for my learning everything I have about FeLV+, he has 
> helped 
> me save many positives and for that I thank him.  I miss my little 
> Baidely boys so much already ... take care all.  Give your special 
> guys 
> and extra special hug for Bailey.
> 
> -- 
> 
> Belinda
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> 
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> 
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> 
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> 

Re: Bailey has gone home

[felv]

Belinda, I am so sorry for your loss! But what a great honor to him, to know 
that his
illness did SO much to save SO many cats! ALL that you have done, was because 
of him,
how could anyone honor a cat more than that? He fought so long, and so well, he 
was
an inspiration to many of us through our hard times with our cats, and we 
learned so
much from you, and him. Please know that his life had so much meaning, you are 
truly
a gift to us here!

You have my deepest condolences Belinda.

Peace to you, Bailey, you taught us much in your time here, and you will be 
missed!

It's so hard to lose one of the "old timers"... :`(

Phaewryn (was Jenn, changed name)



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Re: Thanks

[felv]

You're very welcome, I hope the info helps! It does sound like you have a 
better vet now. Don't worry, this group has educated many vets, most in the USA, 
so it's not just in other countries where the lack of knowledge is, it's 
everywhere. Don't look down on Chile for it, every country has room for 
improvement!
 
Just FYI, hemobartonella causes the anemia (it's also known as Feline 
Infectious Anemia), and THAT is treatable. 
http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_feline_infectious_anemia.html 
http://www.animalhealthcare.ca/contents/content.asp?id=356&cat=cats 
http://www.fabcats.org/anaemia.html 
Renal failure, depending on how far advanced, might not have been something 
you could have helped much.
http://www.felinecrf.com/ 
http://www.mindspring.com/%7Epjs4/10Emma.htm
http://www.vetinfo.com/ccrftreat.html 
http://www.fabcats.org/crf.html 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-CRF-Support/
 
Not trying to bring you down, just want you to know that sometimes, the 
vets can be wrong, and the only way to save the NEXT one is to actively educate 
them. I highly recommend you print out any info YOU find useful on FELV, 
Infectious Anemia, or Renal Failure, and personally hand deliver it to the vet 
that you had before that didn't KNOW enough to help your cat. THAT is how you 
take a bad thing, and make it into a positive way to memorialize your cat, and 
honor her memory. :)
 
It's great to educate your new vet, but you should go out of your way to 
educate the old vet as well, it may very well save someone else's cat! The info 
is out there, it is up to us to get it to the people who can use it. In an ideal 
world, vets would stay up to date on their own, in the real world, their 
continuing education gets lost in overloaded patient appointments, unexpected 
emergencies, and, honestly, often burn out. If we can help THEM, then they can 
help the animals! (of course, there is the occasional hopelessly closed-minded 
egotistical assh*le vet that will take your info as a personal insult to his/her 
competence, but you can't win them all)
Phaewryn (was Jenn, changed name)http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html 
Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html PLEASE DONATE 
TO THE TANGLE FUND:Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when 
someone wrapped wire around his neck to strangle him,Little Cheetah Cat 
Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find him a good 
home!http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.htmlDONATE: 
We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for 
pictures), and more towels! 
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Re: Bailey has gone home

[Sheila208]

I'm so sorry .All the babies are special and we cry for them all when they have to leave us ,but Bailey touched a place in my heart I feel like I have lost one of my own. You'll be in my prayers.  
 
Sheila

Re: Bailey has gone home

[gblane]

Belinda, I'm so sorry.  He sounds so special, and I know how hard it 
is to lose them. I learned from my Calawalla, and I think she'll be 
there with him, to show him the way. My thoughts are with you.


Gloria


At 11:54 PM 5/6/2006, you wrote:
   Bailey left us at 6:20 this evening.  He took a bad turn for 
the worse late last night and when I took him in this morning for 
his surgery it was evident he wasn't in good enough shape.  We gave 
him fluids for a couple hours because he was dehydrated, his blood 
pressure was 60 and his temperature went from 103 yesterday to 98 
today, his blood work was normal except his platelet count was low 
so he wasn't clotting and suregery was out of the question unless 
we could get his platelet count up.  After two hours of fluids and 
a blood transfusion his platelets came up but his temperature was 
now 94, 96 puts kitties at risk for heart failure and she couldn't 
even get a blood pressure.


My vet said we have 3 options, we could continue the fluids and 
support and see if things changed and if they did he could have the 
surgery tomorrow.
Go ahead with the surgery and get in and out as quickly as possible 
or she could euthanise him.


I asked her what she honestly thought of his condition, she said she 
though he was leaving on his own, I agreed.  We talked, I asked her 
what to expect if he was going to die and she told me what the 
likely scenarios would be, she gave me a syringe of pain meds incase 
it got really bad for him, it would basically knock him out so he 
wouldn't suffer and pass on his own, she had a dinner engagement but 
told me to call if she was needed.  I had told Bailey it was his 
decision to stay or go, and told him to do what was best for him.  I 
brought him home on the fluids to keep supporting him and if he did 
turn for the better we would consider the surgery later.  His 
breathing got worse just taking him to the car so I knew in my heart 
we didn't have long.


We had about an hour, he was home with us and we were with him when 
he left.  He is whole now and FeLV free for the first time.  We were 
so lucky to have him for 11 years, his birthday was Monday.  I will 
miss his bouncy, happy personality.  He was so special and I learned 
so much thanks to him.  He was our only positive and the one that 
was responsible for my learning everything I have about FeLV+, he 
has helped me save many positives and for that I thank him.  I miss 
my little Baidely boys so much already ... take care all.  Give your 
special guys and extra special hug for Bailey.


--

Belinda
happiness is being owned by cats ...

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RE: Bailey has gone home

[Chris]

I'm sure he is--getting lots of hugs from all the other little guys whose
time he helped make just that much easier!

Chris
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-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 1:09 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Bailey has gone home

Thank you Chris, atleast he is his bouncy, happy self again.

-- 

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Re: Bailey has gone home

[Belinda]

Thank you Chris, atleast he is his bouncy, happy self again.

--

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Re: Bailey has gone home

[Belinda]

 Thank you Tracy.

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RE: Bailey has gone home

[Chris]

Belinda, I'm so very sorry for your loss.  I always liked to hear about
Bailey and he sounded like such a special little guy.  You and Bailey are
responsible for saving countless lives and are both true heroes!  I know you
are missing him terribly... but he will always be in your heart---just like
he'll always be in ours.

Chris
[EMAIL PROTECTED]

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda
Sent: Sunday, May 07, 2006 12:54 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Bailey has gone home

Bailey left us at 6:20 this evening.  He took a bad turn for the 
worse late last night and when I took him in this morning for his 
surgery it was evident he wasn't in good enough shape.  We gave him 
fluids for a couple hours because he was dehydrated, his blood pressure 
was 60 and his temperature went from 103 yesterday to 98 today, his 
blood work was normal except his platelet count was low so he wasn't 
clotting and suregery was out of the question unless we could get his 
platelet count up.  After two hours of fluids and a blood transfusion 
his platelets came up but his temperature was now 94, 96 puts kitties at 
risk for heart failure and she couldn't even get a blood pressure.

My vet said we have 3 options, we could continue the fluids and support 
and see if things changed and if they did he could have the surgery 
tomorrow.
Go ahead with the surgery and get in and out as quickly as possible or 
she could euthanise him.

I asked her what she honestly thought of his condition, she said she 
though he was leaving on his own, I agreed.  We talked, I asked her what 
to expect if he was going to die and she told me what the likely 
scenarios would be, she gave me a syringe of pain meds incase it got 
really bad for him, it would basically knock him out so he wouldn't 
suffer and pass on his own, she had a dinner engagement but told me to 
call if she was needed.  I had told Bailey it was his decision to stay 
or go, and told him to do what was best for him.  I brought him home on 
the fluids to keep supporting him and if he did turn for the better we 
would consider the surgery later.  His breathing got worse just taking 
him to the car so I knew in my heart we didn't have long.

We had about an hour, he was home with us and we were with him when he 
left.  He is whole now and FeLV free for the first time.  We were so 
lucky to have him for 11 years, his birthday was Monday.  I will miss 
his bouncy, happy personality.  He was so special and I learned so much 
thanks to him.  He was our only positive and the one that was 
responsible for my learning everything I have about FeLV+, he has helped 
me save many positives and for that I thank him.  I miss my little 
Baidely boys so much already ... take care all.  Give your special guys 
and extra special hug for Bailey.

-- 

Belinda
happiness is being owned by cats ...

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RE: Bailey has gone home

[Tracy Weese]

I'm sorry Bailey had to leave you11 years, that was a good run.  

Tracy 

> [Original Message]
> From: Belinda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: 
> Date: 5/7/2006 12:54:22 AM
> Subject: Bailey has gone home
>
> Bailey left us at 6:20 this evening.  He took a bad turn for the 
> worse late last night and when I took him in this morning for his 
> surgery it was evident he wasn't in good enough shape.  We gave him 
> fluids for a couple hours because he was dehydrated, his blood pressure 
> was 60 and his temperature went from 103 yesterday to 98 today, his 
> blood work was normal except his platelet count was low so he wasn't 
> clotting and suregery was out of the question unless we could get his 
> platelet count up.  After two hours of fluids and a blood transfusion 
> his platelets came up but his temperature was now 94, 96 puts kitties at 
> risk for heart failure and she couldn't even get a blood pressure.
>
> My vet said we have 3 options, we could continue the fluids and support 
> and see if things changed and if they did he could have the surgery 
> tomorrow.
> Go ahead with the surgery and get in and out as quickly as possible or 
> she could euthanise him.
>
> I asked her what she honestly thought of his condition, she said she 
> though he was leaving on his own, I agreed.  We talked, I asked her what 
> to expect if he was going to die and she told me what the likely 
> scenarios would be, she gave me a syringe of pain meds incase it got 
> really bad for him, it would basically knock him out so he wouldn't 
> suffer and pass on his own, she had a dinner engagement but told me to 
> call if she was needed.  I had told Bailey it was his decision to stay 
> or go, and told him to do what was best for him.  I brought him home on 
> the fluids to keep supporting him and if he did turn for the better we 
> would consider the surgery later.  His breathing got worse just taking 
> him to the car so I knew in my heart we didn't have long.
>
> We had about an hour, he was home with us and we were with him when he 
> left.  He is whole now and FeLV free for the first time.  We were so 
> lucky to have him for 11 years, his birthday was Monday.  I will miss 
> his bouncy, happy personality.  He was so special and I learned so much 
> thanks to him.  He was our only positive and the one that was 
> responsible for my learning everything I have about FeLV+, he has helped 
> me save many positives and for that I thank him.  I miss my little 
> Baidely boys so much already ... take care all.  Give your special guys 
> and extra special hug for Bailey.
>
> -- 
>
> Belinda
> happiness is being owned by cats ...
>
> Be-Mi-Kitties
> http://bemikitties.com
>
> Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens
> http://adopt.bemikitties.com
>
> FeLV Candlelight Service
> http://bemikitties.com/cls
>
> HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting & web design]
> http://HostDesign4U.com
>
> 
>
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>

Bailey has gone home

[Belinda]

   Bailey left us at 6:20 this evening.  He took a bad turn for the 
worse late last night and when I took him in this morning for his 
surgery it was evident he wasn't in good enough shape.  We gave him 
fluids for a couple hours because he was dehydrated, his blood pressure 
was 60 and his temperature went from 103 yesterday to 98 today, his 
blood work was normal except his platelet count was low so he wasn't 
clotting and suregery was out of the question unless we could get his 
platelet count up.  After two hours of fluids and a blood transfusion 
his platelets came up but his temperature was now 94, 96 puts kitties at 
risk for heart failure and she couldn't even get a blood pressure.


My vet said we have 3 options, we could continue the fluids and support 
and see if things changed and if they did he could have the surgery 
tomorrow.
Go ahead with the surgery and get in and out as quickly as possible or 
she could euthanise him.


I asked her what she honestly thought of his condition, she said she 
though he was leaving on his own, I agreed.  We talked, I asked her what 
to expect if he was going to die and she told me what the likely 
scenarios would be, she gave me a syringe of pain meds incase it got 
really bad for him, it would basically knock him out so he wouldn't 
suffer and pass on his own, she had a dinner engagement but told me to 
call if she was needed.  I had told Bailey it was his decision to stay 
or go, and told him to do what was best for him.  I brought him home on 
the fluids to keep supporting him and if he did turn for the better we 
would consider the surgery later.  His breathing got worse just taking 
him to the car so I knew in my heart we didn't have long.


We had about an hour, he was home with us and we were with him when he 
left.  He is whole now and FeLV free for the first time.  We were so 
lucky to have him for 11 years, his birthday was Monday.  I will miss 
his bouncy, happy personality.  He was so special and I learned so much 
thanks to him.  He was our only positive and the one that was 
responsible for my learning everything I have about FeLV+, he has helped 
me save many positives and for that I thank him.  I miss my little 
Baidely boys so much already ... take care all.  Give your special guys 
and extra special hug for Bailey.


--

Belinda
happiness is being owned by cats ...

Be-Mi-Kitties
http://bemikitties.com

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Re: Henry and Omar

[felv]

I assume that Sid's uses the same petfinder listing site, and the cats with 
the special needs green heart are the ones at Sid's and the ones without are at 
Crash's, right?
http://www.petfinder.com/shelters/MI275.html 
The thing I noticed right off is that there are SO SO SO many declawed cats 
at your rescue! Your area must have a very knife happy vet to have the majority 
of rescue cats in that area all come in declawed! Is there a good 
explanation as to why you get so many digitally mutilated guys? Just seems kinda 
bizarre...
 
I think out of all the special needs guys, I think Toby is the most 
handsome, he's got that classic fluffy orange kitty look to him that I just fall 
for. Reminds me a bit of Moogie, in a way, though he's definitely a big muscular 
guy, and not the tiny pee-wee she was. I have a stray that visits my yard 
occasionally for a free meal and some love that looks similar too (I call him 
Beautiful), but Mythic HATES him, and so I don't think he comes around very 
often because Mythic is a scary cat when he's aiming to fight for his territory. 
Maybe Mythic's just jealous cause I don't call him beautiful, but hey I call 
Mythic a sexy hunk of black kitty, so you'd think he could forgive me calling 
other cats beautiful, LOL!
 
All my happy cats have silly names:
Doobie is my "Doobie-buddy-doober-man! Buddy-doo-buddy-doo-buddy-do! 
Doobie-doobie-doo!"
Tigger is "TiggA-wallpapA-shred-Ar!" (yes, you should see the wallpaper 
here, it's quite beyond repair, looks like something wild got loose in the place 
and was trying to claw it's way out through all the walls)
Bones is "Evil-little-dev-O!" (behind those sweet crossed little eyes and 
cute little ears is a lurking beast seeking it's next victim)
 
Miranda and Pinky are still too shy to enjoy all the fuss, so I don't make 
a big deal of them, just talk quietly when they decide it's safe enough to come 
out and see me. Pinky worries me, when I pick him up, or get him excited, he 
begins to cough kinda like a hairball cough/hack/wheeze, but he only does it 
when excited. I think he has either Asthma, or congestive heart failure, or 
possibly heartworms, if cats get the same cough as dogs, cause it sounds like 
late stage heartworm coughing in dogs. He's got to go see a vet soon, I think... 
if I pet him gently, and reassure him, OR if I pat (beat, really, but not enough 
to hurt, just enough to be too hard to be called patting) him rather hard on the 
sides and middle back below the lungs (think of the way parents of 
kids with Cystic Fibrosis have to beat their kid's chest to break up the 
secretions) while he is having one of his "fits" he seems to get over it sooner. 
Not sure why the patting helps, other than maybe it's just so darned distracting 
that he forgets he's freaking out over something and his heart/respiration rate 
reduces. I think it warrants a heartworm test, a good stethoscope exam, and 
possibly a heart ultrasound. I can't pick him up without throwing him into one 
of these coughing/hacking/wheezing fits (he's not real fond of being held or 
picked up, and freaks out a bit).
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Re: Idexx seminar on FELV and FIV - May 30 Englewood, Colorado

[PEC2851]

In a message dated 5/6/06 4:33:56 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
writes:
Does 
  that make any sense

Yes, it does make sense.
*OT*  - When did you do the name change?  it's beautiful, but I 
can't pronounce it correctly. Or, maybe it's easier than it seems..
Patti

 

Thanks

[Noelle Ehrenkaufer]

Hi,
I couldn't figure out how to post in the thread I 
started, so I guess this will show up as a new one.
 
I just wanted to thank those that responded. I live 
in Chile, so vet care is not nearly at the level of the US/Europe.
 
My boyfriend and I do a lot of rescue independently 
since there are not a lot of organizations for that here. We take in strays and 
find them homes. Some end up staying with us. We currently have 3 cats, 3 dogs, 
all but one are rescues of that type.
 
The good thing is that our new vet has given us a 
lot of confidence. We took in a very sick puppy and she helped us nurse him back 
to health. He had ringworm, a respiratory infection, stomach problems, etc. and 
when we found him a home a few months later he was gorgeous and in great health. 
When Cleo was sick, she spent almost a whole weekend with us taking care of her, 
getting the bloodwork done and finally advising us that euthanasia was the best 
choice since she had hemobartonella (I think it's called), anemia and renal 
failure. Transfusions might have given her a week or two, but there was no 
possibility of her having a good quality of life.
 
Our previous vet just didn't seem to have the time 
to really do things like that since she had small kids. She never advised to do 
the leukemia tests before vaccinating, which probably contributed a lot to 
Cleo's rapid decline.
 
So, the new vet, when I talked to her the other 
day, did not mention anything about euthanasia just because Loca tested 
positive. She said there are things we can do to strengthen her immune system 
and she wants to meet with us next week to discuss what we can do. Wendy sent me 
a document with a lot of info and I am definitely going to ask her about some of 
the treatment possibilities since things are not at the level as the US in terms 
of vet care. I did a project for work on pet care products and some of the 
people I met with said that 1/2 of the cats here and 1/4 of the dogs have 
never been to the vet.
 
Anyways, it is nice to connect with other people 
who are going through or have been through situations like mine. I hope to learn 
a lot.
 
As if this wasn't bad enough, I found out yesterday 
that another cat of mine who escaped in January (on my boyfriend's watch) was 
found hit by a car yesterday about a 15 minute drive from our house. It's hard, 
but at least we know now. It was 4 months, but she still had her ID tag so they 
could let us know.
- Noëlle

Re: Henry and Omar

[Sherry DeHaan]

Actually Shimmy is at Crash's which is the healthy cats and Sids is the Fiv and Felv kitties,and yes Shimmie is quite cute.I was just there this morning.I fell in love with Boone the b/w boy,he reminds me of one of the boys that we lost back in Jan. Moses,he was such a sweet boy.I miss him very much,I have a picture of him with his head in my lap with 3 other of the boys on New Years Eve.[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I was just going through the Crash's petfinder pages, and that Shimmie sure is an adorable guy! SO many cuties there, I can see why you volunteer, they must need a LOT of help to have SO many in one sanctuary! Wow!  Phaewryn (was Jenn, changed name)http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND:Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone wrapped wire around his neck to strangle him,Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find him a good home!http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.htmlDONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures), and more towels! No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/333 - Release Date: 5/5/2006
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Re: Henry and Omar

[felv]

I was just going through the Crash's petfinder pages, and that Shimmie sure 
is an adorable guy! SO many cuties there, I can see why you volunteer, they must 
need a LOT of help to have SO many in one sanctuary! Wow!
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TO THE TANGLE FUND:Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when 
someone wrapped wire around his neck to strangle him,Little Cheetah Cat 
Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find him a good 
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Re: Henry and Omar

[TatorBunz]

Sherry,
    I'm so sorry hear about your furbabies!
I send a bunch of hugs to you. Your in my thoughts and prayers. I know it is so hard to lose them but because of you they had a happier life.
I agree with Patti on her email to you.
Thank you for your special volunteer work that you do!
 
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Re: Henry and Omar

[PEC2851]

In a message dated 5/6/06 6:36:03 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
This 
  volunteering is getting so hard to do

Dear Sherry~
Oh, sweetie, I know what you are going thru!  It is so hard when we 
lose our precious babies we have come to love so much.  And, working with 
shelter animals, the losses really take their toll on one.  And, you are 
working with really special kitties, who will typically have a shorter life 
span. I share your sorrow.
Just remember, you are bringing so much happiness to these kitties!!  
And, it is so obvious how much you care about all of them.
It takes a "special" person to do this type of volunteer work, and Sherry, 
please remember.. YOU ARE SPECIAL!!
On behalf of all the furbabies whose lives you have touched, many 
thanks!
The world is a better place for our feline friends because of people like 
you!
Hugs,
Patti

Re: new diagnosis (Sub-Q)

[Susan Hoffman]

As someone with a needle phobia let me assure you that Sub-Q is easy.  You can learn to do this yourself.  Don't worry about the size of the needle (18 gauge).  The purpose of the large needle is so that the fluids flow in quickly.  With a small needle it is actually more stressful for the cat and for you since you have to keep the cat relatively still while the fluids go in.  I am eternally grateful to the person who showed me how to do this and gave me the stuff I needed.  It's saved a couple of cats' lives and saved me a lot of money in vet bills.  If I can do this, anyone can.  [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Hi Jen, you might consider having you vet show you how to give her Sub-Q fluids at home, this will save you quite a few vet visits for
 fever/fluids. You vet needs to show you and give you the supplies, but if you still need advise and reassurance, I have several website links on how to do it yourself. (I'll get those later tonight for you... I'll flag this message so I remember)  Phaewryn (was Jenn, changed name)http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND:Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone wrapped wire around his neck to strangle him,Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find him a good home!http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.htmlDONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures),
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Lance

[Sherry DeHaan]

Yes Jen told me about you donating and sponsoring one of our kitties,I asked her if she didn't choose one if she would chose Demetri,he is the sweetest boy with the sweetest face.I know I say that about pretty much all of them but demetri won me over the minute that I saw him.He also just got over what we call the schmuck (URI).I want to go see him tonight now that he is back from the clinic.I also wanted to THANK YOU SO MUCH for helping us with our fur kids,you are a kind and generous person.I wish you all the luck with your sweet kitty.Thanks again.  Sherry
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Re: Henry and Omar

[Sherry DeHaan]

I am in Michigan Jenn I volunteer at Sids and Crash's Landing[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  Omar? I think I knew this cat, where do you volunteer Sherry?      You have my deepest sympathy, regardless of if it's the same cat or not. It does hurt to lose our sweet rescue cats, but at least we know they knew some final kindness before crossing over.   Phaewryn (was Jenn, changed name)http://ucat.us No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.392 / Virus Database: 268.5.5/333 - Release Date: 5/5/2006
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Re: Was appropriate calorie in take for a kitty - NowBailey's Diagnosis

[felv]

I'm coming in a bit late here, and you may already be in surgery, but I just 
wanted
you to know you and Bailey are in my thoughts. I send you both peace and comfort
Belinda.

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Re: Idexx seminar on FELV and FIV - May 30 Englewood, Colorado

[felv]

Well, just a transcript (an audio file would be OK, or even a video) of the 
seminar would be awesome, so I can host it on my website, for future reference, 
as well as someone there who can let us know what this vet (the one 
speaking) is saying, so we can know how up to date the veterinary community 
is, in general, on the subjects of FELV testing, treatment, and owner 
counseling. We fight so hard to get the veterinary community up to date with 
treatment protocols, it's nice to keep an eye on where it is as far as general 
knowledge goes. Does that make any sense?
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Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html PLEASE DONATE 
TO THE TANGLE FUND:Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when 
someone wrapped wire around his neck to strangle him,Little Cheetah Cat 
Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find him a good 
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Re: new diagnosis

[felv]

Hi Jen, you might consider having you vet show you how to give her Sub-Q 
fluids at home, this will save you quite a few vet visits for fever/fluids. You 
vet needs to show you and give you the supplies, but if you still need advise 
and reassurance, I have several website links on how to do it yourself. (I'll 
get those later tonight for you... I'll flag this message so I remember)
Phaewryn (was Jenn, changed name)http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html 
Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html PLEASE DONATE 
TO THE TANGLE FUND:Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when 
someone wrapped wire around his neck to strangle him,Little Cheetah Cat 
Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find him a good 
home!http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.htmlDONATE: 
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Re: To everyone

[felv]

LMAO! You think so? If only you knew the half of it... I am now working TWO 
full time
jobs (one of which is running an entire office while the boss is away until 
Tuesday),
managing a feral colony, doing rescue (Tangle gets picked up from the Montreal
airport next Saturday), AND, all my mail order plants arrived today, so I am 
out in
the freezing cold rain digging holes and mixing peat and garden soil (the 
beautify
the rescue project)... and I need to clean up because my NJ feral lady is 
coming with
6 more cats tomorrow, and I don't have the quarantine cage set up yet, LOL! 
Whoo-hoo!
If I wasn't efficient, I wouldn't be able to get any of it done! Ahh, I LOVE my 
life,
and that's NOT sarcasm, I LOVE every minute of it all, I feel ALIVE for the 
first
time in years! (or perhaps this is the manic side of bi-polar disorder... hehe)

Got to get back to work, got through almost 50 email messages during this 
"break"

(((Love ya MC!)))

Phaewryn (was Jenn, changed name)
PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND:
Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone wrapped wire 
around
his neck to strangle him,
Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find 
him a
good home!
http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.html

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On 5/3/06, MC wrote:

you're so efficient, jenn!

On 5/3/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Yep! I sent her the latest one from today as well.
>
>
> Hi Jenn---this is abt Pam, right? Thanks! Kerry



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Re: Henry and Omar

[felv]

Omar? I think I knew this cat, where do you volunteer Sherry? 
 
You have my deepest sympathy, regardless of if it's the same cat or not. It 
does hurt to lose our sweet rescue cats, but at least we know they knew 
some final kindness before crossing over. 
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Re: To Noelle

[felv]

Yep! Me too, I stay even though my FELV+ girl died years ago. I now have an 
entire
feral cat colony that is FIV+, and much of the things that are good for FELV 
are also
good for FIV.

It's good to have you join, and I'm sure you'll learn much from all the 
wonderful and
knowledgeable members here!

If you have any specific questions, do feel free to ask anything at all! Some 
FELV+
cats don't make it long, others live normal life spans, so it's definitely not
hopeless, and there ARE treatments, regardless of what you vet tells you! Let 
us know
what your vet says after your appointment, and keep in mind that MANY vets are
uninformed on current FELV treatments, as it's not something that they teach in 
vet
schools, generally speaking, but that is changing, so a YOUNG vet may be better 
than
an older, experienced one. I find it ironic, they teach vets how to HURT 
animals with
declaws, ear crops, and tail docking, but yet we are still struggling to get 
the vet
schools to accept current treatment protocols and even TESTING protocols for 
FELV and
FIV! Anyways, don't euthanise your cat even if you vet advises it, come back and
discuss options with this group before you decide on any treatments or make any
decisions, you'll get lots of practical advice from people who have gone 
through it
before here!

Welcome again!

Phaewryn (was Jenn, just changed name)
http://ucat.us
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue:
http://ucat.us/adopt.html
PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND:
Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone wrapped wire 
around
his neck to strangle him,
Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find 
him a
good home!
http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.html
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Hi Noelle,

Nice to meet you; welcome to our humble group.  My
name is Wendy.  I am sorry to hear that you have lost
your beloved Cleo.  Most of us here have lost our
loved ones to FeLV as well, and many of us stay,
including me, even though we don't have anymore FeLV+
kitties because of the wonderful support and
information we got here while tending to our furkids,
and want to help others as we were helped.  I lost my
Cricket in November; he also received the FeLV in
utero from his mom.  This list was a God-send for me.


FeLV is not an immediate death sentence, and many
kitties here live happy, healthy lives until the virus
kicks in.  I believe Bailey here is our poster child,
and although is having trouble at the moment, he is I
believe 16 years old, if not older.  Whatever you do,
don't allow the vet to talk you into euthanizing her.
If they try to, you will be better off finding a vet
who supports caring for FeLV kitties.  The main thing
in caring preventatively for FeLV kitties is to keep
their immune system boosted and keep them stress-free.
 I am going to send you directly an email with an
attachment (we can't send attachments through the
group).  The attachment is a manual that was put
together from posts from all the wonderful members
here.  There is a lot of great info. in it.

Please keep us posted on what your vet says, and if
you need anything, just ask.  Sorry I didn't get to
you yesterday, but things were really hectic at work!
:)
Wendy
Dallas, Tx



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Re: Henry and Omar

[gblane]

I am so sorry, you're right, it is hard to do.  I'm sure you helped 
them so much by being a caring part of their short lives.


Gloria


At 05:35 AM 5/6/2006, you wrote:
This volunteering is getting so hard to do,We lost our sweet 
wonderful Henry and our beautiful blue eyed siamese manx to felv 
yesterday.Omar had the most beautiful aqua blue eyes that I have 
ever seen and the sweetest personality ,he love the temptations 
treats that I always give to all the fur kids.
Sweet Henry was so loving ,he always jumped up on you without 
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Re: Henry and Omar

[TenHouseCats]

aw, honey, i'm so sorry.

On 5/6/06, Sherry DeHaan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


This volunteering is getting so hard to do,We lost our sweet wonderful Henry
and our beautiful blue eyed siamese manx to felv yesterday.Omar had the most
beautiful aqua blue eyes that I have ever seen and the sweetest personality
,he love the temptations treats that I always give to all the fur kids.
Sweet Henry was so loving ,he always jumped up on you without warning to
give you hugs and head butts,I will miss them so.



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Re: Bailey

[TatorBunz]

Belinda,
    The both of you are in my thoughts and prayers especially Bailey. I do hope things turn around for the good. 
If you need someone to talk to do call me. 
I'm here for you!
 
 Terrie MohrTAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTSSIAMESE & COLLIE RESCUEOwner/DriverCheck sites for available Siameses for adoption!http://www.tazzys-siameses-collies.petfinder.org/Click Here to Join WASHINGTON SIAMESE RESCUE Yahoo Group!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/wasiameserescuehttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/index.htmlhttp://hometown.aol.com/tatorbunz/myhomepage/petmemorial.htmlPetfinder.comAdopt a Homeless Pet!http://www.petfinder.com/http://www.felineleukemia.org/http://www.petloss.com/TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTShttps://www.paypal.com/http://www.frappr.com/wasiameserescue

Henry and Omar

[Sherry DeHaan]

This volunteering is getting so hard to do,We lost our sweet wonderful Henry and our beautiful blue eyed siamese manx to felv yesterday.Omar had the most beautiful aqua blue eyes that I have ever seen and the sweetest personality ,he love the temptations treats that I always give to all the fur kids.  Sweet Henry was so loving ,he always jumped up on you without warning to give you hugs and head butts,I will miss them so.
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Re: Bailey

[Sandra]

Dear Belinda and  Bailey,
I am Praying for you both today, I feel for you all the feelings that we 
all go though when you have to make a choice such as yours.


praying that God looks down on you  both with a smile and helps you both 
though today.


Lots love for you both.   Sandra Tabbs past, and Suzy Copper and Tiger. plus 
2 strays that I am now feeding,


will tell more about them at a better moment in time.

take care





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