date:20060808

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I'm so
sorry Sherry. I'm just gladsweet Nyahad a home to call her own, and
so much love and care surrounding her.
hugs,
Kerry

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CLS
Hi all sad news,Nya a beautiful sweet felv+ girl passed away over the
weekend.She was adopted by one of our volunteers,he had her since march and she
was doing great I got to see her back in June and she looked great,but as we all
know how fast felv can bring on just about anything.Her lungs filled up with
fluid and we lost her.
Sherry

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RE: I need to vent (OT)

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Outrageous---what exactly did she charge you for that came to $160?! What
did it say on the bill? "Consultation"?

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(OT)
You guys mostly know about Mythic's skin issues...
well, he's gotten bad again, so last week I took him to my other vet to try to
get something to help. I've always taken him to the first vet, but all they ever
do is give him a dexamethisone shot, and that only works for 2 weeks, but it
DOES help. So, I thought I'd take him to my other vet, the newer one that gives
me a rescue discount. I took him, and I'm really regretting my decision now. For
one thing, every question I asked, the "vet" I had, shehad to go look up
the answer in a book, so that was disappointing, I can look up my own medical
research in books and online! I told them what the other vet does, and how it
helps, they said they don't give cats that shot at their office due to the
possibility of it making the cat diabetic. They said they prefer oral
prednisolone. I told them I can't pill Mythic, so I asked about the possibility
of them having it compounded into a liquid.. the vet TECH had to tell the VET
that that could be done, she was so clueless! SO, my total bill was $160, and
all I got out of it was a bottle of shampoo. The compounded medicine cost me
extra, and I had to mail order it. It was $17.00. I just tried to give it to
Mythic... it's a THREE ML dose! THREE CC's! Do you know how hard it is to get
that amount of anything into a fighting cat to begin with?! AND, on top of that,
it's CHERRY flavored syrup, and he gags and foams at the mouth all over the
place, and I can't get him to swallow even 1/4 of the HUGE dose! SO, what it
comes down to, is I got a $180 bottle of shampoo!!! I could have taken him to my
first vet, and spent $36 on a shot that I KNOW would have made him feel better
for 2 weeks! Now, he's still suffering, and I blew $180 for nothing, my rent is
due, and I don't have the money to buy anything else or go to the other vet now!
This is SO frustrating for me! I called the vet just now, and basically was
told, "call tomorrow during business hours"!

So, if anyone has a DOG that needs a 3mg per ML dose of
Prednisolone, I have a bottle to give away. I doubt ANY cat would EVER take this
crap, when Mythic spit it everywhere, it flew up in my face and in my mouth, and
it is HORRIBLE! It tastes like cough syrup (except maybe sweeter)! A dog might
be able to handle it, but poor Miffie is now foaming all over the house, trails
of slime drooling from his chin, looking QUITE POed! Plus, he didn't take enough
to help at all!

Can you guys refer me to a GOOD compounding pharmacy?
How is drsfostersmith.com? I must say, I am totally NOT AT ALL impressed by
vetcentric, which is who made this THREE ML DOSE of CHERRY flavored syrup for a
CAT!
Phaewryn

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Re: I need to vent (OT)

2006-08-08 Thread elizamaggie

That's simply ridiculous! When was the last time you saw a kitty sit down to enjoy a nice bowl of cherries? NEVER! They could at least flavor it with tuna or chicken. I'm sorry you had such a rotten experience!
Maggie

-- Original message -- From: "Phaewryn" [EMAIL PROTECTED]

You guys mostly know about Mythic's skin issues... well, he's gotten bad again, so last week I took him to my other vet to try to get something to help. I've always taken him to the first vet, but all they ever do is give him a dexamethisone shot, and that only works for 2 weeks, but it DOES help. So, I thought I'd take him to my other vet, the newer one that gives me a rescue discount. I took him, and I'm really regretting my decision now. For one thing, every question I asked, the "vet" I had, shehad to go look up the answer in a book, so that was disappointing, I can look up my own medical research in books and online! I told them what the other vet does, and how it helps, they said they don't give cats that shot at their office due to the possibility of it making the cat diabetic. They said they prefer oral prednisolone. I told them I can't pill Mythic, so I asked about the possibility of them having it compounded into a liquid.. the vet TECH had
to tell the VET that that could be done, she was so clueless! SO, my total bill was $160, and all I got out of it was a bottle of shampoo. The compounded medicine cost me extra, and I had to mail order it. It was $17.00. I just tried to give it to Mythic... it's a THREE ML dose! THREE CC's! Do you know how hard it is to get that amount of anything into a fighting cat to begin with?! AND, on top of that, it's CHERRY flavored syrup, and he gags and foams at the mouth all over the place, and I can't get him to swallow even 1/4 of the HUGE dose! SO, what it comes down to, is I got a $180 bottle of shampoo!!! I could have taken him to my first vet, and spent $36 on a shot that I KNOW would have made him feel better for 2 weeks! Now, he's still suffering, and I blew $180 for nothing, my rent is due, and I don't have the money to buy anything else or go to the other vet now! This is SO frustrating for me! I called the vet just now, and basically was told, "call tomorrow during business ho
urs"!

So, if anyone has a DOG that needs a 3mg per ML dose of Prednisolone, I have a bottle to give away. I doubt ANY cat would EVER take this crap, when Mythic spit it everywhere, it flew up in my face and in my mouth, and it is HORRIBLE! It tastes like cough syrup (except maybe sweeter)! A dog might be able to handle it, but poor Miffie is now foaming all over the house, trails of slime drooling from his chin, looking QUITE POed! Plus, he didn't take enough to help at all!

Can you guys refer me to a GOOD compounding pharmacy? How is drsfostersmith.com? I must say, I am totally NOT AT ALL impressed by vetcentric, which is who made this THREE ML DOSE of CHERRY flavored syrup for a CAT!
Phaewryn

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Re: Boycott Chinese goods

2006-08-08 Thread Lernermichelle




I have been boycotting Chinese goods for at least 10 years. I started 
because they use prison labor to make a lot of their goods, and they have no 
environmental regulations for factories either. It is hard to avoid 
Chinese goods, but the effort makes you much more conscious about where your 
things come from. It also just makes you buy less.

My partner, Gray, teaches Chinese history in a university. One year he had 
all his students go through everything in their dorm room and make a list of 
what was made in China. The students were all amazed at the length of their 
lists-- hardly anything they had was made anywhere else. It is a 
consciousness-raiser.

Michelle

Re: I need to vent (OT)

2006-08-08 Thread Gary Murphy




Hi Phaewyrn,
Ohhh, I know all about those ding-dong compounders!!! I had to medicate my African Grey Parrot for a couple of months. The emergency clinic broke open human liquid gel caps into a bottle, I only had to squirt a drop into her mouth each day. Plus, they charged me a reasonable amount. But they only see emergency patients, so off to my regular vet for a refill, which came from a compounding pharmacy and was $40.00 a bottle. I was nowsupposed to squirt 3ml into a parrot (3ml must be their all-purpose dose, I think those compounders would mix that up for a dwarf hamster!) Luckily, it was unflavored and clear; my sweetiedrank it from a spoonall by herself. THEN, we needed another refill. I take her in for her check-up, ask a question about feeding her bananas, which they somehow misinterpret as a request for a vile, bright yellow, banana-flavored refill of ourprescription (the flavoring I didn't order cost an extra$7.00). One look atthatstuff and the bird decided I was trying to poison her,wings flapping, beak snapping, little chicken legs running, I couldn't even get it in herwith a syringe, much less a spoon. After some argument with the vet over who's fault this was, they finally agreed to replaceit with the plain stuff again, at which point her tests came back that she was ok and no longer needed the meds :o) 

Good luck with your baby,
Beth

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Message: 15
Date: Mon, 7 Aug 2006 21:55:43 -0500
From: "Marylyn" [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: I need to vent (OT)
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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I've had the flavored meds argument so many times it is pitiful. Sometimes the pills can be crushed and "melted" in tuna juice then "force fed." Sometimes they can be coated with real butter. But cherry has never cut it. 

I'm sorry this has happened to you. I wonder if the other vet would help you out if you asked???






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will deal likewise with their fellow man.
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From: Phaewryn 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 9:01 PM
Subject: I need to vent (OT)


You guys mostly know about Mythic's skin issues... well, he's gotten bad again, so last week I took him to my other vet to try to get something to help. I've always taken him to the first vet, but all they ever do is give him a dexamethisone shot, and that only works for 2 weeks, but it DOES help. So, I thought I'd take him to my other vet, the newer one that gives me a rescue discount. I took him, and I'm really regretting my decision now. For one thing, every question I asked, the "vet" I had, she had to go look up the answer in a book, so that was disappointing, I can look up my own medical research in books and online! I told them what the other vet does, and how it helps, they said they don't give cats that shot at their office due to the possibility of it making the cat diabetic. They said they prefer oral prednisolone. I told them I can't pill Mythic, so I asked about the possibility of them having it compounded into a liquid.. the vet TECH had to tell the VET that that could be done, she was so clueless! SO, my total bill was $160, and all I got out of it was a bottle of shampoo. The compounded medicine cost me extra, and I had to mail order it. It was $17.00. I just tried to give it to Mythic... it's a THREE ML dose! THREE CC's! Do you know how hard it is to get that amount of anything into a fighting cat to begin with?! AND, on top of that, it's CHERRY flavored syrup, and he gags and foams at the mouth all over the place, and I can't get him to swallow even 1/4 of the HUGE dose! SO, what it comes down to, is I got a $180 bottle of shampoo!!! I could have taken him to my first vet, and spent $36 on a shot that I KNOW would have made him feel better for 2 weeks! Now, he's still suffering, and I blew $180 for nothing, my rent is due, and I don't have the money to buy anything else or go to the other vet now! This is SO frustrating for me! I called the vet just now, and basically was told, "call tomorrow during business hours"! 

So, if anyone has a DOG that needs a 3mg per ML dose of Prednisolone, I have a bottle to give away. I doubt ANY cat would EVER take this crap, when Mythic spit it everywhere, it flew up in my face and in my mouth, and it is HORRIBLE! It tastes like cough syrup (except maybe sweeter)! A dog might be able to handle it, but poor Miffie is now foaming all over the house, trails of slime drooling from his chin, looking QUITE POed! Plus, he didn't take enough to help at all!

Can you guys refer me to a GOOD compounding pharmacy? How is drsfostersmith.com? I must say, I am totally NOT AT ALL impressed by vetcentric, which is who made this THREE ML DOSE of CHERRY flavored syrup for a CAT!

Phaewryn

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Re: Need Prayers for Peter - FIP again??

2006-08-08 Thread Lernermichelle




God, Hideyo, how can you have to go through so much? Sending lots of energy 
and prayers.
Michelle

Re: I need to vent (OT)

2006-08-08 Thread TatorBunz

My God!!
$160.00 for the visit?
This is a break for a rescue? Not hardly!
Especially for one kitty!
I could see it if there were more than a few kitties.
Cherry flavorright!
Cats do not like that and will foam until it is out of their system. Should be flavored with tuna or something from the fish family.
Geez, even my dogs won't eat or take that.
I would certainly contact the better business bureau to report this as a complaint. At least have the satisfaction knowing that you spoke with them.

I'm sorry you have to endure this.
This is total BS!
I have several Vets myself in the area. None of mine would never consider allowing a rescue pay that kind of money for one cat. They know rescues can't afford the costs and they would lose the money as well.
So a little money is better than none.

I hope you can do something soonfor him!
Poor guy!
He is in my thoughts and prayers!

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Re: I need to vent (OT)


sorry about this whole mess, dear--my friends of the feline kind swear
by three-fishie-flavor meds. they don't much like the tuna,
tho can't help but wonder what the NON-rescue rate would have been
for that visit, tho.

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RE: New Tang pictures! Taken today! (OT)

Title: Message

I'm
being dim here--I also read recentlysomewhere else that the blood tests
have to be taken 6 months before entry---I don't get that...I'd have thought
they'd want them taken as soon as poss before entry...can't other disorders
arise in the meantime that then wdn't show on the blood test...I know I'm being
dim and some kind person will explain! kerry

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pictures! Taken today! (OT)
don't worry about it--i just found out about the quarantine being lifted
about two weeks ago--and it's been a couple of years! as kerry said, tho, you
really have to know well in advance and follow all the rules--you have to have
the blood tests taken six months BEFORE entry date, for example.

i didn't know about the color of ink, tho! oy.

for future reference, here's the link: http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/quarantine/index.htm
On 8/6/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Oh,
well, I was misinformed! Weird then, that it does cost so much more, as it's
thesame distance... maybe a bit more to Greece actually! Perhaps it's that
Greece has a lower cost airline... it was some odd name I'd never heard of
before... OlympicAirlines.PhaewrynPLEASE Adopt a cat from
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Re: New Tang pictures! Taken today! (OT)


what, you're expecting logic and clear-thinking from governmental entities?

On 8/8/06, MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



I'm being dim here--I also read recently somewhere else that the blood tests
have to be taken 6 months before entry---I don't get that...I'd have thought
they'd want them taken as soon as poss before entry...can't other disorders
arise in the meantime that then wdn't show on the blood test...I know I'm
being dim and some kind person will explain! kerry

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don't worry about it--i just found out about the quarantine being lifted
about two weeks ago--and it's been a couple of years! as kerry said, tho,
you really have to know well in advance and follow all the rules--you have
to have the blood tests taken six months BEFORE entry date, for example.

i didn't know about the color of ink, tho! oy.

for future reference, here's the link:
http://www.defra.gov.uk/animalh/quarantine/index.htm


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 Oh, well, I was misinformed! Weird then, that it does cost so much more,
as it's the
 same distance... maybe a bit more to Greece actually! Perhaps it's that
Greece has a
 lower cost airline... it was some odd name I'd never heard of before...
Olympic
 Airlines.

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RE: Boycott Chinese goods

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Bravo.
The amount we import from China seems to
have escalated thru the roof in recent years.
We need a boycott Chinamovement to get
started. Maybe there is one?

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Boycott Chinese goods
I have been boycotting Chinese goods for at least 10 years. I started
because they use prison labor to make a lot of their goods, and they have no
environmental regulations for factories either. It is hard to avoid
Chinese goods, but the effort makes you much more conscious about where your
things come from. It also just makes you buy less.

My partner, Gray, teaches Chinese history in a university. One year he had
all his students go through everything in their dorm room and make a list of
what was made in China. The students were all amazed at the length of their
lists-- hardly anything they had was made anywhere else. It is a
consciousness-raiser.

Michelle

Re: Kitten update and FIP question

2006-08-08 Thread Nina


Hi Leslie,
I haven't been able to keep up with the list, I'm betting others with 
more knowledge than I have posted about potential FIP risks to Powder.  
From what I understand about it, there are genetic risks involved that 
take most of the protection against it out of our hands.  All I can say 
is that giving Powder a chance in your loving home would seem to 
outweigh your concerns.  A shelter situation would certainly expose her 
to greater health risks than Satchmo alone.  Maybe I'm operating from 
the ridiculous premise of it just wouldn't be fair, but I think Powder 
is better off with you no matter what happens because of it. 

You asked about success stories...  My little Timmy and his brother 
Lucky were 2 of 6 kittens born with felv.  We didn't find out the litter 
was pos until the first kitten died.  Lucky has never been tested, (he 
was adopted out and they decided they didn't care what the result of the 
test was, they were just going to love and care for him), and Tim tested 
neg when he was finally tested at about 6mos.  They are going on 3 yrs 
now and are both healthy and strong, (the other 4 kittens died between 
6mos and 2 yrs old).  I think your philosophy of taking each day as a 
blessing and being grateful for whatever time you have, (while remaining 
proactive and optimistic), is the best one we can have under any 
circumstance.  I am sure that my little felv angels were part of my life 
to help me with just this lesson.  Blessings and thanks to all our 
special needs loved ones and all those that have the courage to care for 
them!


When does Powder come home?
Nina

Leslie wrote:


Hello, it's Leslie again,
 
So here's the FeLV+ kitten update from the Humane Society:  I went to 
visit and play with both kittens last Wednesday and they were so 
cute.  Incredibly active, curious, friendly.  The volunteer and I 
talked about my situation a lot and we agreed that since they are 
together, it would be ideal to get them a home together.  I can't take 
them both, so I decided to let fate take a hand.  Yesterday was my day 
to volunteer with the dogs, but every 30 minutes or so, I'd wander 
back over to the cat side and give them a scratch. 
 
Since I'm obsessive, I check the website hourly, and at 6 pm last 
night, Trixie was taken off of it - meaning that she'd found a home!  
That leaves Powder (the bobtail) and the one that pulled my heart 
strings a just a little tighter, truth be told.
 
I'm going to call the humane society when they open in an hour and 
confirm that it wasn't a computer glitch.
 
So now that it looks like I will be taking Powder, I have one question 
and one request. 
 
The question:  my last + cat to pass, Hepburn, was taken down by FIP, 
she had the wet variety, potbelly and all.  So whether or not my 
current + guy, Satchmo, introduced it to her, he was certainly exposed 
to it before I knew what she had.  Should I worry about this in 
introducing a + kitten to him?  I would feel just awful about giving 
something to a cat that I'm trying to help.  What do you think?
 
The request:  I know that it's riskier than average to expect a kitten 
to make it the long haul with leukemia, but do any of you have these 
success stories?  I've heard of kitten's turning negative from you 
(and please reiterate those and if you did anything special to reach 
that conclusion), but are there kittens that are positive that grow to 
be healthy, positive adults?
 
I have already embraced (or am trying) your philosophy that the 
control we have is over our attitude toward the events in life, not 
the events themselves (well, to some extent, but not totally).  So if 
my expectations in adopting this kitten are that if we have two 
months, that's a success, and anything above that is a gift, then 
that's what I'll do.
 
Thank you all so much,

Leslie

Re: Kitten update and FIP question

2006-08-08 Thread elizamaggie

Leslie,
How exciting! Will you keep her named Powder or rename her (or is it a him?)? I don't know anything about FIP.

I wish I could give you answers as to how long you can expect Powder to be with you, but I'm afraid I just don't know. My girls are now 9 months and seem to be really strong and healthy, a far cry from two months ago when the vet said one of them was on death's door - so I guess they don't know either.

Someone on this board (sorry, I can't give credit because I don't remember!) made a really good point that struck me and has stuck - they said that cats have no concept of future, they only know the now. How true! As long as my girls are happy in the moment that's all that matters because they have no mechanism to fear the future (that's quite a gift!).

Maggie

-- Original message -- From: Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hello, it's Leslie again,

So here's the FeLV+ kitten update from the Humane Society: I went to visit and play with both kittens last Wednesday and they were so cute. Incredibly active, curious, friendly. The volunteer and I talked about my situation a lot and we agreed that since they are together, it would be ideal to get them a home together. I can't take them both, so I decided to let fate take a hand. Yesterday was my day to volunteer with the dogs, but every 30 minutes or so, I'd wander back over to the cat side and give them a scratch.

Since I'm obsessive, I check the website hourly, and at 6 pm last night, Trixie was taken off of it - meaning that she'd found a home! That leaves Powder (the bobtail) and the one that pulled my heart strings a just a little tighter, truth be told.

I'm going to call the humane society when they open in an hour and confirm that it wasn't a computer glitch.

So now that it looks like I will be taking Powder, I have one question and one request.

The question: my last + cat to pass, Hepburn, was taken down by FIP, she had the wet variety, potbelly and all. So whether or not my current + guy, Satchmo, introduced it to her, he was certainly exposed to it before I knew what she had. Should I worry about this in introducing a + kitten to him? I would feel just awful about giving something to a cat that I'm trying to help. What do you think?

The request: I know that it's riskier than average to expect a kitten to make it the long haul with leukemia, but do any of you have these success stories? I've heard of kitten's turning negative from you (and please reiterate those and if you did anything special to reach that conclusion), but are there kittens that are positive that grow to be healthy, positive adults?

I have already embraced (or am trying) your philosophy that the control we have is over our attitude toward the events in life, not the events themselves (well, to some extent, but not totally). So if my expectations in adopting this kitten are that if we have two months, that's a success, and anything above that is a gift, then that's what I'll do.

Thank you all so much,
Leslie

RE: Boycott Chinese goods

2006-08-08 Thread Gina WN

One that is keeping a tally of the dollar amount boycotted by its membersis called China Boycott Union http://www.buyhard.fsnet.co.uk/Gina"MacKenzie, Kerry N." [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Bravo. The amount we import from China seems to have escalated thru the roof in recent years. We need a boycott Chinamovement to get started. Maybe there is one?-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 8:54 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Boycott Chinese goods I have been boycotting Chinese goods for at least 10 years. I started because they use prison labor to make a lot of their goods, and they have no environmental regulations for factories either. It is hard to avoid Chinese goods, but the effort makes you much more conscious about where your things come from. It also just makes you buy less.My partner, Gray, teaches Chinese history in a university. One year he had all his students go through everything in their dorm room and make a list of what was made in China. The students were all amazed at the length of their lists-- hardly anything they had was made anywhere else. It is a
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Great 
site Gina--I've bookmarked it. Thanks! Kerry

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Chinese goods
One that is keeping a tally of the dollar amount boycotted by its 
membersis called China Boycott Union http://www.buyhard.fsnet.co.uk/

Gina"MacKenzie, Kerry N." 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  
  
  Bravo. 
  The amount we import from China seems to 
  have escalated thru the roof in recent years.
  We need a boycott Chinamovement to 
  get started. Maybe there is one?
  
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  Chinese goods
  I have been boycotting Chinese goods for at least 10 years. I started 
  because they use prison labor to make a lot of their goods, and they have no 
  environmental regulations for factories either. It is hard to avoid 
  Chinese goods, but the effort makes you much more conscious about where your 
  things come from. It also just makes you buy less.
  
  My partner, Gray, teaches Chinese history in a university. One year he 
  had all his students go through everything in their dorm room and make a list 
  of what was made in China. The students were all amazed at the length of their 
  lists-- hardly anything they had was made anywhere else. It is a 
  consciousness-raiser.
  
  Michelle
  
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Re: Kitten update and FIP question

2006-08-08 Thread Leslie

Hideyo, my heart goes out to you. You have done such an amazing job in caring for these cats, you haven't let one of them down for a second. All of my well wishes and Satch's naughty-cat energy will be pointed toward you and your cats.

And Sherry, so sorry to here about Nya. It's true what the others have said, that her life was the better for it, even if it was too short by our standards.

MC, Maggie, and Nina, thank you so much for replying to my email. MC what a great wealth of information that was, that makes me feel a lot better about bringing in Powder...and losing Hepburn oddly enough. Nina, thanks for you story of the healthy kittens, and Maggie, I'll be keeping my fingers crossed that your two stay on this side of the vet's amazement. :)

I've actually been thinking about that comment about how cat's perceive things. No yesterday, no tomorrow, just now. Hungry now, happy now, in pain now, pet me now. It's true and it makes things much simpler.

I don't think that I'll keep the name Powder (she's female) because it makes me think of the movie or a dilute calico, and her colors are pretty sharp. I don't know what I'll name her, I'll have to see what strikes me. I hope to pick her up tonight, but it'll be after work, so if the humane society needs to speak to my landlord, I'll have to wait until tomorrow. :)

It seems to be the samephenomenon of the day that you're getting your hair cut, your have a great hair day - because Satch has been in this sweet, I'm-an-only-cat love-bug mood of late. He must know. ;)

Leslie

Re: Kitten update and FIP question

2006-08-08 Thread Nina

I'm glad 'what's her name' will be coming home soon, (I'm sure she'll 
let you know soon enough what she wants to be called!).  High hopes and 
prayers that she turns out to be one of the fortunate and lives a long, 
healthy life.  I think we would all do better concerning ourselves with 
tomorrow, but living in the now.  Re Satchmo and the little one...  I 
would talk to him about her coming to live with you.  Let him know that 
she's to be HIS kitten, that you are bringing her home so he will have 
someone to watch over and play with.  The you were once in her place 
and she needs us logic doesn't seem to work as well with my crew!  I'm 
sure with as many kitties as you've had, I don't have to remind you to 
take the introductions slowly and to shower Satch with attention.  Let 
us know all about it.

Hugs to you, and congratulations,
Nina

It seems to be the same phenomenon of the day that you're getting your 
hair cut, your have a great hair day - because Satch has been in this 
sweet, I'm-an-only-cat love-bug mood of late.  He must know.  ;)
 
Leslie

Re: Now Peter has become an angel - so soon...

2006-08-08 Thread elizamaggie


I'm so sorry for your loss! What a tragedy to lose Peter so close to losing Naomi. It is a blessing that he didn't suffer and that you know therewas a familiar face and wagging tail waiting to greet him on the other side. You cannot blame yourself, he was lovedcompletelyand that's all anyone can ask for.

RE: Now Peter has become an angel - so soon...

Title: Message

Oh
Hideyo, I can't believe you've lost sweet Peter now too. I am so sorry to hear
this sad and shocking news. You are going thru so much. It seems so unfair---it
is so unfair--that you do so much and you have so much grief. Bless you for
everything you do for the little souls who have no one else to turn to. I really
am so sorry. Your tribute is beautiful.
You
are the best, you truly are.
much
love and big hugs, Kerry

-Original Message-From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Behalf Of Hideyo YamamotoSent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006
4:13 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Now Peter
has become an angel - so soon...

Hi, everyone, thank you very much
for your prayers for Peter Peter has crossed the bridge on the way to a
peaceful land this afternoon about two hours ago it happened so quickly and
was so unexpected and I am still in shock.. though my eyes are very exhausted
from crying so much I just cant believe how quickly he passed away and I just
numb not feeling much

One week ago, I lost my baby Naomi
and then I lost Peter.. my words cannot express how empty I feel and how badly I
feel right now.. but I know that their souls continue to live and they will be
in my heart eternally.Heres to my baby Peter..

Dear My
Peter,

Peter, you are the most beautiful
baby I have met in both soul and body.. I am so grateful of the opportunity to
have met you.. I wish I could have spent more time with
you..
When I met you and brought you home
from Arno
street in February, you were so talkative and full of
energy I cannot help thinking that your life would have been much longer if I
did not bring you home because I know in my heart that you got something that
made you very sick from my other kitties at home.. I so badly wanted to fight
with you against whatever illness that you were fighting against.. and I am so
sorry that I couldnt make it go away Peter, I know you have already forgiven
things as you have heart of angel I treasure the memory that I have had with
you forever,, Peter, I am so sorry that you had to go so soon.. you are only a
little over a year old.. I am going to miss you so much,, but the thought of
your soul continue to live gives me a courage to continue to live.. love so
dearly and love forever,,

Your
mama..

RE: Now Peter has become an angel - so soon...

2006-08-08 Thread Rosenfeldt, Diane




Hideyo, I am so very sorry that Peter had to leave 
you. I am sure others will tell you as well, that he was so much better 
off with you than he would have been anyplace else. Here's gentle Bridge 
vibes to your boy.

Diane R.


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2006-08-08 Thread Sherry DeHaan

Hideyo I am so sorry you lost your sweet boy,hugs to you. SherryHideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi, everyone, thank you very much for your prayers for Peter Peter has crossed the bridge on the way to a peaceful land this afternoon about two hours ago it happened so quickly and was so unexpected and I am still in shock.. though my eyes are very exhausted from crying so much I just cant believe how quickly he passed away and I just numb not feeling muchOne week ago, I lost my baby Naomi and then I lost Peter.. my words cannot express how empty I feel and how badly I feel right now.. but I know that their souls continue to live and they will be in my heart eternally.Heres to my baby Peter..Dear My Peter,Peter, you are the most beautiful baby I have met in both soul and body.. I am so grateful of the opportunity to have met you.. I wish I could have spent more time with you.. When I met you and brought you home from Arno street in February, you were so talkative and full of energy I cannot help thinking that your life would have been much longer if I did not bring you home because I know in my heart that you got something that made you very sick from my other kitties at home.. I so badly wanted to fight with you against whatever illness that you were fighting against.. and I am so sorry that I couldnt make it go away Peter, I know you have already forgiven things as you have
heart of angel I treasure the memory that I have had with you forever,, Peter, I am so sorry that you had to go so soon.. you are only a little over a year old.. I am going to miss you so much,, but the thought of your soul continue to live gives me a courage to continue to live.. love so dearly and love forever,,Your mama..
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Thank you, Diane,,, I wish I spent more
time with him and I regret it more than anything elseI guess thats
the price I have to pay for having so many kitties











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Behalf Of Rosenfeldt, Diane
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006
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an angel - so soon...





Hideyo, I am so very sorry that Peter had
to leave you. I am sure others will tell you as well, that he was so much
better off with you than he would have been anyplace else. Here's gentle
Bridge vibes to your boy.



Diane R.









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RE: Now Peter has become an angel - so soon...

Title: Message








Thank you, Kerry, and thank you for
considering asking your sister to receive interferon in UK for me.. actually
our Nina shipped it for me (and I am going to return it to her once I get the
shipment from UK)
and Peter and I received it this morning.. we were able to give his first shot
this morning and I was so praying that it would create a miracle.. but I think
Peter felt that he will feel much better if he can get out of his little body
for now



The best blessing I have, is.. and this has
been true for all the kitties I have lost.. they always wait for me to cross
the bridge and they have crossed the bridge on their own without much too long
of suffering Naomi was walking around still on the same day she passed
(though she did have a difficult time breathing towards the end, and so did
Peter and Hannibal, Garfunkle, and George and Peter was not too sick (as
far as I could tell),,, until last nightbut anyway, I have been able to
be always there if not right besides me when they make transition..(I was not
able to be with Peter right besides him.. he passed away when I went downstairs
to make a call, which I regret it so much..).. and I am grateful of the gift..
and it means so much to me..but, it still hurts not to be able to hold him











From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006
3:23 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: RE: Now Peter has become
an angel - so soon...









Oh Hideyo, I can't believe you've lost
sweet Peter now too. I am so sorry to hear this sad and shocking news. You are
going thru so much. It seems so unfair---it is so unfair--that you do so much
and you have so much grief. Bless you for everything you do for the little
souls who have no one else to turn to. I really am so sorry. Your tribute is
beautiful. 





You are the best, you truly are.





much love and big hugs, Kerry



-Original Message-
From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Hideyo Yamamoto
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006
4:13 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Now Peter has become an
angel - so soon...

Hi, everyone, thank you very much for your prayers for Peter
 Peter has crossed the bridge on the way to a peaceful land this
afternoon about two hours ago  it happened so quickly and was so
unexpected and I am still in shock.. though my eyes are very exhausted from
crying so much I just cant believe how quickly he passed
away and I just numb not feeling much



One week ago, I lost my baby Naomi and then I lost
Peter.. my words cannot express how empty I feel and how badly I feel right
now.. but I know that their souls continue to live and they will be in my heart
eternally.Heres to my baby Peter..



Dear My Peter,



Peter, you are the most beautiful baby I have met in both
soul and body.. I am so grateful of the opportunity to have met you.. I wish I
could have spent more time with you..

When I met you and brought you home from Arno street
in February, you were so talkative and full of energy I cannot help
thinking that your life would have been much longer if I did not bring you home
because I know in my heart that you got something that made you very sick from
my other kitties at home.. I so badly wanted to fight with you against whatever
illness that you were fighting against.. and I am so sorry that I
couldnt make it go away Peter, I know you have already forgiven
things as you have heart of angel I treasure the memory that I have had
with you forever,, Peter, I am so sorry that you had to go so soon.. you are
only a little over a year old.. I am going to miss you so much,, but the
thought of your soul continue to live gives me a courage to continue to live..
love so dearly and love forever,,



Your mama..











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Re: Now Peter has become an angel - so soon...

2006-08-08 Thread Barb Moermond

Hideyo, I'm so so sorry - GLOW to light dear Peter's path and ease your heart...Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi, everyone, thank you very much for your prayers for Peter Peter has crossed the bridge on the way to a peaceful land this afternoon about two hours ago it happened so quickly and was so unexpected and I am still in shock.. though my eyes are very exhausted from crying so much I just cant believe how quickly he passed away and I just numb not feeling muchOne week ago, I lost my baby Naomi and then I lost Peter.. my words cannot express how empty I feel and how badly I feel right now.. but I know that their souls continue to live and they will be in my heart eternally.Heres to my baby Peter..Dear My Peter,Peter, you are
the most beautiful baby I have met in both soul and body.. I am so grateful of the opportunity to have met you.. I wish I could have spent more time with you.. When I met you and brought you home from Arno street in February, you were so talkative and full of energy I cannot help thinking that your life would have been much longer if I did not bring you home because I know in my heart that you got something that made you very sick from my other kitties at home.. I so badly wanted to fight with you against whatever illness that you were fighting against.. and I am so sorry that I couldnt make it go away Peter, I know you have already forgiven things as you have heart of angel I treasure the
memory that I have had with you forever,, Peter, I am so sorry that you had to go so soon.. you are only a little over a year old.. I am going to miss you so much,, but the thought of your soul continue to live gives me a courage to continue to live.. love so dearly and love forever,,Your mama..Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous
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Re: Now Peter has become an angel - so soon...

2006-08-08 Thread Kat

Dear Hideyo,

I'm sorry Peter had to leave so soon, but you can never know what fate
might have awaited him if you had left him out instead of bringing him
home.

My heart aches for all of the losses you've endured, and I understand
completely about not spending enough time individually because of the
sheer numbers...  But they DO know your love, and the DO have each other,
and they DO understand.

My thoughts and prayers are with you now.
Sleep Soft, dear Peter...

Kat (Mew Jersey)

On Tue, 8 Aug 2006, Hideyo Yamamoto wrote:

 Date: Tue, 8 Aug 2006 15:13:01 -0600
 From: Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Now Peter has become an angel - so soon...

 Hi, everyone, thank you very much for your prayers for Peter - Peter has
 crossed the bridge on the way to a peaceful land this afternoon about
 two hours ago - it happened so quickly and was so unexpected and I am
 still in shock.. though my eyes are very exhausted from crying so
 much... I just can't believe how quickly he passed away... and I just
 numb not feeling much



 One week ago, I lost my baby Naomi... and then I lost Peter.. my words
 cannot express how empty I feel and how badly I feel right now.. but I
 know that their souls continue to live and they will be in my heart
 eternallyHere's to my baby Peter..



 Dear My Peter,



 Peter, you are the most beautiful baby I have met in both soul and
 body.. I am so grateful of the opportunity to have met you.. I wish I
 could have spent more time with you..

 When I met you and brought you home from Arno street in February, you
 were so talkative and full of energy... I cannot help thinking that your
 life would have been much longer if I did not bring you home because I
 know in my heart that you got something that made you very sick from my
 other kitties at home.. I so badly wanted to fight with you against
 whatever illness that you were fighting against.. and I am so sorry that
 I couldn't make it go away... Peter, I know you have already forgiven
 things as you have heart of angel... I treasure the memory that I have
 had with you forever,, Peter, I am so sorry that you had to go so soon..
 you are only a little over a year old.. I am going to miss you so much,,
 but the thought of your soul continue to live gives me a courage to
 continue to live.. love so dearly and love forever,,



 Your mama..

Re: Now Peter has become an angel - so soon...

2006-08-08 Thread LVega50899




Dear Hideyo, so sorry for your losses. I too lost my cat today to feline 
leukemia, it was hard for kiko to breathe anymore, unfortunately we had to put 
him down. Also, my poor mickey oldest dog passed away yesterday at home in his 
sleep at the age of 13. It has been a horrible week, the worst I have had in a 
long time.

Re: Now Peter has become an angel - so soon...

Naomi,

I am so sorry to hear about both Naomi and Peter. 
They were lucky to have you Hideyo.  Prayers going out
for you.

:)
Wendy

--- Hideyo Yamamoto
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi, everyone, thank you very much for your prayers
 for Peter - Peter has
 crossed the bridge on the way to a peaceful land
 this afternoon about
 two hours ago - it happened so quickly and was so
 unexpected and I am
 still in shock.. though my eyes are very exhausted
 from crying so
 much... I just can't believe how quickly he passed
 away... and I just
 numb not feeling much
 
  
 
 One week ago, I lost my baby Naomi... and then I
 lost Peter.. my words
 cannot express how empty I feel and how badly I feel
 right now.. but I
 know that their souls continue to live and they will
 be in my heart
 eternallyHere's to my baby Peter..
 
  
 
 Dear My Peter,
 
  
 
 Peter, you are the most beautiful baby I have met in
 both soul and
 body.. I am so grateful of the opportunity to have
 met you.. I wish I
 could have spent more time with you..
 
 When I met you and brought you home from Arno street
 in February, you
 were so talkative and full of energy... I cannot
 help thinking that your
 life would have been much longer if I did not bring
 you home because I
 know in my heart that you got something that made
 you very sick from my
 other kitties at home.. I so badly wanted to fight
 with you against
 whatever illness that you were fighting against..
 and I am so sorry that
 I couldn't make it go away... Peter, I know you have
 already forgiven
 things as you have heart of angel... I treasure the
 memory that I have
 had with you forever,, Peter, I am so sorry that you
 had to go so soon..
 you are only a little over a year old.. I am going
 to miss you so much,,
 but the thought of your soul continue to live gives
 me a courage to
 continue to live.. love so dearly and love forever,,
 
  
 
 Your mama..
 
 


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Re: Now Peter has become an angel - so soon...




Peter may well have had something wrong long before 
you brought him home. Many little ones have latent problems that can show 
up years later---something they were exposed to, a disease they appeared to 
overcome, just plain stress from being abandoned, abused, mishandled or just 
improperly fed. Do not believe you are responsible for Peter's leaving so 
soon. We fall into that trap and hurt even more which hurts the one who 
left. He knows he was loved and cared for and regrets deeply the pain you 
are feeling. He would never willingly cause you pain but his time had come 
and he had to leave. Please calm yourself and let him visit you. Ask 
him to visit when the time is right and he will tell you everything you want to 
know. 






 
If you have men who will exclude any of God's 
creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 
will deal likewise with their fellow 
man. 
St. Francis

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Hideyo Yamamoto 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 4:13 
  PM
  Subject: Now Peter has become an angel - 
  so soon...
  
  
  Hi, everyone, thank you very much 
  for your prayers for Peter  Peter has crossed the bridge on the way to a 
  peaceful land this afternoon about two hours ago  it happened so quickly and 
  was so unexpected and I am still in shock.. though my eyes are very exhausted 
  from crying so much I just cant believe how quickly he passed away and I 
  just numb not feeling much
  
  One week ago, I lost my baby 
  Naomi and then I lost Peter.. my words cannot express how empty I feel and 
  how badly I feel right now.. but I know that their souls continue to live and 
  they will be in my heart eternally.Heres to my baby 
  Peter..
  
  Dear My 
  Peter,
  
  Peter, you are the most beautiful 
  baby I have met in both soul and body.. I am so grateful of the opportunity to 
  have met you.. I wish I could have spent more time with 
  you..
  When I met you and brought you 
  home from Arno 
  street in February, you were so talkative and full 
  of energy I cannot help thinking that your life would have been much longer 
  if I did not bring you home because I know in my heart that you got something 
  that made you very sick from my other kitties at home.. I so badly wanted to 
  fight with you against whatever illness that you were fighting against.. and I 
  am so sorry that I couldnt make it go away Peter, I know you have already 
  forgiven things as you have heart of angel I treasure the memory that I have 
  had with you forever,, Peter, I am so sorry that you had to go so soon.. you 
  are only a little over a year old.. I am going to miss you so much,, but the 
  thought of your soul continue to live gives me a courage to continue to live.. 
  love so dearly and love forever,,
  
  Your 
  mama..
  
  

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To Phaewryn Re: Online pharmacy/I need to vent (OT)

Hey Phaewryn,

I just LOVE the Pet Health Pharmacy
(http://www.pethealthpharmacy.com/).  I get
transdermal methamizole for my hyper T kitty there. 
They are very cheap and have fantastic customer
service!

:)
Wendy

--- Phaewryn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 You guys mostly know about Mythic's skin issues...
 well, he's gotten bad again, so last week I took him
 to my other vet to try to get something to help.
 I've always taken him to the first vet, but all they
 ever do is give him a dexamethisone shot, and that
 only works for 2 weeks, but it DOES help. So, I
 thought I'd take him to my other vet, the newer one
 that gives me a rescue discount. I took him, and I'm
 really regretting my decision now. For one thing,
 every question I asked, the vet I had, she had to
 go look up the answer in a book, so that was
 disappointing, I can look up my own medical research
 in books and online! I told them what the other vet
 does, and how it helps, they said they don't give
 cats that shot at their office due to the
 possibility of it making the cat diabetic. They said
 they prefer oral prednisolone. I told them I can't
 pill Mythic, so I asked about the possibility of
 them having it compounded into a liquid.. the vet
 TECH had to tell the VET that that could be done,
 she was so clueless! SO, my total bill was $160, and
 all I got out of it was a bottle of shampoo. The
 compounded medicine cost me extra, and I had to mail
 order it. It was $17.00. I just tried to give it to
 Mythic... it's a THREE ML dose! THREE CC's! Do you
 know how hard it is to get that amount of anything
 into a fighting cat to begin with?! AND, on top of
 that, it's CHERRY flavored syrup, and he gags and
 foams at the mouth all over the place, and I can't
 get him to swallow even 1/4 of the HUGE dose! SO,
 what it comes down to, is I got a $180 bottle of
 shampoo!!! I could have taken him to my first vet,
 and spent $36 on a shot that I KNOW would have made
 him feel better for 2 weeks! Now, he's still
 suffering, and I blew $180 for nothing, my rent is
 due, and I don't have the money to buy anything else
 or go to the other vet now! This is SO frustrating
 for me! I called the vet just now, and basically was
 told, call tomorrow during business hours! 
 
 So, if anyone has a DOG that needs a 3mg per ML dose
 of Prednisolone, I have a bottle to give away. I
 doubt ANY cat would EVER take this crap, when Mythic
 spit it everywhere, it flew up in my face and in my
 mouth, and it is HORRIBLE! It tastes like cough
 syrup (except maybe sweeter)! A dog might be able to
 handle it, but poor Miffie is now foaming all over
 the house, trails of slime drooling from his chin,
 looking QUITE POed! Plus, he didn't take enough to
 help at all!
 
 Can you guys refer me to a GOOD compounding
 pharmacy? How is drsfostersmith.com? I must say, I
 am totally NOT AT ALL impressed by vetcentric, which
 is who made this THREE ML DOSE of CHERRY flavored
 syrup for a CAT!
 
 Phaewryn
 
 PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!!
 http://ucat.us/adopt.html 
 
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Re: To Phaewryn Re: Online pharmacy/I need to vent (OT)

P.S.  Pet Health Pharmacy is mainly a compounding
pharmacy, and only for animals, so that's good.  They
charge me $12.90 for 3 syringes of medicine for Julie,
plus $4.50 for shipping, which isn't bad.  The meds
last about 2 months, so that's good.  Do not use
Abrams Pharmacy (on the link Belinda sent out) in
Dallas; they are way overpriced, plus don't service
just animals.  They were going to charge me like $45
for the same thing that Pet Health Pharmacy gave me!

:)
Wendy

--- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hey Phaewryn,
 
 I just LOVE the Pet Health Pharmacy
 (http://www.pethealthpharmacy.com/).  I get
 transdermal methamizole for my hyper T kitty there. 
 They are very cheap and have fantastic customer
 service!
 
 :)
 Wendy
 
 --- Phaewryn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  You guys mostly know about Mythic's skin issues...
  well, he's gotten bad again, so last week I took
 him
  to my other vet to try to get something to help.
  I've always taken him to the first vet, but all
 they
  ever do is give him a dexamethisone shot, and that
  only works for 2 weeks, but it DOES help. So, I
  thought I'd take him to my other vet, the newer
 one
  that gives me a rescue discount. I took him, and
 I'm
  really regretting my decision now. For one thing,
  every question I asked, the vet I had, she had
 to
  go look up the answer in a book, so that was
  disappointing, I can look up my own medical
 research
  in books and online! I told them what the other
 vet
  does, and how it helps, they said they don't give
  cats that shot at their office due to the
  possibility of it making the cat diabetic. They
 said
  they prefer oral prednisolone. I told them I can't
  pill Mythic, so I asked about the possibility of
  them having it compounded into a liquid.. the vet
  TECH had to tell the VET that that could be done,
  she was so clueless! SO, my total bill was $160,
 and
  all I got out of it was a bottle of shampoo. The
  compounded medicine cost me extra, and I had to
 mail
  order it. It was $17.00. I just tried to give it
 to
  Mythic... it's a THREE ML dose! THREE CC's! Do you
  know how hard it is to get that amount of anything
  into a fighting cat to begin with?! AND, on top of
  that, it's CHERRY flavored syrup, and he gags and
  foams at the mouth all over the place, and I can't
  get him to swallow even 1/4 of the HUGE dose! SO,
  what it comes down to, is I got a $180 bottle of
  shampoo!!! I could have taken him to my first vet,
  and spent $36 on a shot that I KNOW would have
 made
  him feel better for 2 weeks! Now, he's still
  suffering, and I blew $180 for nothing, my rent is
  due, and I don't have the money to buy anything
 else
  or go to the other vet now! This is SO frustrating
  for me! I called the vet just now, and basically
 was
  told, call tomorrow during business hours! 
  
  So, if anyone has a DOG that needs a 3mg per ML
 dose
  of Prednisolone, I have a bottle to give away. I
  doubt ANY cat would EVER take this crap, when
 Mythic
  spit it everywhere, it flew up in my face and in
 my
  mouth, and it is HORRIBLE! It tastes like cough
  syrup (except maybe sweeter)! A dog might be able
 to
  handle it, but poor Miffie is now foaming all over
  the house, trails of slime drooling from his chin,
  looking QUITE POed! Plus, he didn't take enough to
  help at all!
  
  Can you guys refer me to a GOOD compounding
  pharmacy? How is drsfostersmith.com? I must say, I
  am totally NOT AT ALL impressed by vetcentric,
 which
  is who made this THREE ML DOSE of CHERRY flavored
  syrup for a CAT!
  
  Phaewryn
  
  PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat
 Rescue!!!
  http://ucat.us/adopt.html 
  
  DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for
  construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and
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To Leslie Re: Kitten update and FIP question

Leslie,

Congratulations on Powder's future adoption! 
Absolutely, there are kittens who throw off the virus
and become healthy adults, and even if they don't,
they can live with it for a long time.  Many die
before age 3, but some do not.  My kitty Cricket lived
to 4.5 years, and I truly believed he would have lived
longer had he not been stressed out by ten family
members staying with us in our 1500 sq. ft. house for
a week during Hurricane Rita.  He shortly thereafter
developed anemia.  If I were you, I would be giving
the L-lysine and the Mega C for the rest of kitty's
life.  Also, good quality food, like Evo.  And LOTS of
love and snuggles!  Bless you!

:)
Wendy


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P.S.  Please keep us posted on Powder's adoption.  I
would love to hear how Satchmo adjusts to her and the
funny stuff that happens after you bring her home!

:)
Wendy

--- wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Leslie,
 
 Congratulations on Powder's future adoption! 
 Absolutely, there are kittens who throw off the
 virus
 and become healthy adults, and even if they don't,
 they can live with it for a long time.  Many die
 before age 3, but some do not.  My kitty Cricket
 lived
 to 4.5 years, and I truly believed he would have
 lived
 longer had he not been stressed out by ten family
 members staying with us in our 1500 sq. ft. house
 for
 a week during Hurricane Rita.  He shortly thereafter
 developed anemia.  If I were you, I would be giving
 the L-lysine and the Mega C for the rest of kitty's
 life.  Also, good quality food, like Evo.  And LOTS
 of
 love and snuggles!  Bless you!
 
 :)
 Wendy
 
 
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Re: Kiko and Mickey

2006-08-08 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt




I am so sorry that you had this double loss so close together. It's 
hard enough one at a time. Gentlest of Bridge vibes to them both, and 
comfort to you.

Diane R.

  -Original Message-From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 5:07 
  PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Now Peter 
  has become an angel - so soon...
  Dear Hideyo, so sorry for your losses. I too lost my cat today to feline 
  leukemia, it was hard for kiko to breathe anymore, unfortunately we had to put 
  him down. Also, my poor mickey oldest dog passed away yesterday at home in his 
  sleep at the age of 13. It has been a horrible week, the worst I have had in a 
  long time.

RE: Now Peter has become an angel - so soon...









I am so sorry for your lose of Kiko and
Mickey  it must be so difficult for you --- I know exactly how you
feel.. please know though that Kikos and Mickeys souls are right
besides you smiling 











From:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006
4:07 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Now Peter has become
an angel - so soon...







Dear Hideyo, so sorry for your losses. I
too lost my cat today to feline leukemia, it was hard for kiko to breathe
anymore, unfortunately we had to put him down. Also, my poor mickey oldest dog
passed away yesterday at home in his sleep at the age of 13. It has been a
horrible week, the worst I have had in a long time.

Re: Kiko and Mickey




I am so sorry for your loss. Know that both Kiko and Mickey love you 
dearly.






 
If you have men who will exclude any of God's 
creatures 
from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who 
 
will deal likewise with their fellow 
man. 
St. Francis

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Diane 
  Rosenfeldt 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 6:43 
  PM
  Subject: Re: Kiko and Mickey
  
  I am so sorry that you had this double loss so close together. 
  It's hard enough one at a time. Gentlest of Bridge vibes to them both, 
  and comfort to you.
  
  Diane R.
  
-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: 
Tuesday, August 08, 2006 5:07 PMTo: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Now Peter has become an 
angel - so soon...
Dear Hideyo, so sorry for your losses. I too lost my cat today to 
feline leukemia, it was hard for kiko to breathe anymore, unfortunately we 
had to put him down. Also, my poor mickey oldest dog passed away yesterday 
at home in his sleep at the age of 13. It has been a horrible week, the 
worst I have had in a long time. 
  
  

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Re: Now Peter has become an angel - so soon...


hideyo, i'm so sorry about peter. i don't believe for a minute, tho,
that leaving him on the street would have lengthened his life, and for
sure, his life would have been without love and safety.

GLOW to heal your heart.

MC

On 8/8/06, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Hi, everyone, thank you very much for your prayers for Peter – Peter has
crossed the bridge on the way to a peaceful land this afternoon about two
hours ago – it happened so quickly and was so unexpected and I am still in
shock.. though my eyes are very exhausted from crying so much… I just can't
believe how quickly he passed away… and I just numb not feeling much



One week ago, I lost my baby Naomi… and then I lost Peter.. my words cannot
express how empty I feel and how badly I feel right now.. but I know that
their souls continue to live and they will be in my heart eternally….Here's
to my baby Peter..



Dear My Peter,



Peter, you are the most beautiful baby I have met in both soul and body.. I
am so grateful of the opportunity to have met you.. I wish I could have
spent more time with you..

When I met you and brought you home from Arno street in February, you were
so talkative and full of energy… I cannot help thinking that your life would
have been much longer if I did not bring you home because I know in my heart
that you got something that made you very sick from my other kitties at
home.. I so badly wanted to fight with you against whatever illness that you
were fighting against.. and I am so sorry that I couldn't make it go away…
Peter, I know you have already forgiven things as you have heart of angel… I
treasure the memory that I have had with you forever,, Peter, I am so sorry
that you had to go so soon.. you are only a little over a year old.. I am
going to miss you so much,, but the thought of your soul continue to live
gives me a courage to continue to live.. love so dearly and love forever,,



Your mama..



--
MaryChristine

AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 289856892

RE: Now Peter has become an angel - so soon...

MC, I feel so lonely without Peter and Naomi.. and don't know what to do
with the feeling..I know I have to believe and their souls are right
besides me, but it hurts not to be able to hold them...and see them..

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCats
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 5:49 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Now Peter has become an angel - so soon...

hideyo, i'm so sorry about peter. i don't believe for a minute, tho,
that leaving him on the street would have lengthened his life, and for
sure, his life would have been without love and safety.

GLOW to heal your heart.

MC

On 8/8/06, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Hi, everyone, thank you very much for your prayers for Peter - Peter
has
 crossed the bridge on the way to a peaceful land this afternoon about
two
 hours ago - it happened so quickly and was so unexpected and I am
still in
 shock.. though my eyes are very exhausted from crying so much... I
just can't
 believe how quickly he passed away... and I just numb not feeling much

 One week ago, I lost my baby Naomi... and then I lost Peter.. my words
cannot
 express how empty I feel and how badly I feel right now.. but I know
that
 their souls continue to live and they will be in my heart
eternallyHere's
 to my baby Peter..

 Dear My Peter,

 Peter, you are the most beautiful baby I have met in both soul and
body.. I
 am so grateful of the opportunity to have met you.. I wish I could
have
 spent more time with you..

 When I met you and brought you home from Arno street in February, you
were
 so talkative and full of energy... I cannot help thinking that your
life would
 have been much longer if I did not bring you home because I know in my
heart
 that you got something that made you very sick from my other kitties
at
 home.. I so badly wanted to fight with you against whatever illness
that you
 were fighting against.. and I am so sorry that I couldn't make it go
away...
 Peter, I know you have already forgiven things as you have heart of
angel... I
 treasure the memory that I have had with you forever,, Peter, I am so
sorry
 that you had to go so soon.. you are only a little over a year old.. I
am
 going to miss you so much,, but the thought of your soul continue to
live
 gives me a courage to continue to live.. love so dearly and love
forever,,

 Your mama..

-- 
MaryChristine

AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 289856892

Re: Kiko and Mickey

2006-08-08 Thread LVega50899




Thankyou very much for your kind words.

Re: Now Peter has become an angel - so soon...

Of course it hurts.they would have meant nothing if their 
leaving didn't cause grief and tears.  They don't want us to feel this way 
but we must because we are human and not nearly as wise as they are.  If you 
have rescue remedy or any other essence handy try it.  But only with the 
idea that it will help you feel what you need to feel, not that it will take 
away the pain.  Talk to them and let them know how you feel and how you miss 
them.  This helps a lot of people though, depending on who is around, you 
may want to go for a long walk while you are doing this.  Tell them 
everything you are feeling and how grateful you are to have had their bodies 
in your life and how much you want them to remain around you.  Cry all you 
need to.  It washes out the pain and leaves the wonderful memories.  Bless 
you.







If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 6:53 PM
Subject: RE: Now Peter has become an angel - so soon...


MC, I feel so lonely without Peter and Naomi.. and don't know what to do
with the feeling..I know I have to believe and their souls are right
besides me, but it hurts not to be able to hold them...and see them..

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCats
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 5:49 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Now Peter has become an angel - so soon...

hideyo, i'm so sorry about peter. i don't believe for a minute, tho,
that leaving him on the street would have lengthened his life, and for
sure, his life would have been without love and safety.

GLOW to heal your heart.

MC

On 8/8/06, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:




Hi, everyone, thank you very much for your prayers for Peter - Peter

has

crossed the bridge on the way to a peaceful land this afternoon about

two

hours ago - it happened so quickly and was so unexpected and I am

still in

shock.. though my eyes are very exhausted from crying so much... I

just can't

believe how quickly he passed away... and I just numb not feeling much



One week ago, I lost my baby Naomi... and then I lost Peter.. my words

cannot

express how empty I feel and how badly I feel right now.. but I know

that

their souls continue to live and they will be in my heart

eternallyHere's

to my baby Peter..



Dear My Peter,



Peter, you are the most beautiful baby I have met in both soul and

body.. I

am so grateful of the opportunity to have met you.. I wish I could

have

spent more time with you..

When I met you and brought you home from Arno street in February, you

were

so talkative and full of energy... I cannot help thinking that your

life would

have been much longer if I did not bring you home because I know in my

heart

that you got something that made you very sick from my other kitties

at

home.. I so badly wanted to fight with you against whatever illness

that you

were fighting against.. and I am so sorry that I couldn't make it go

away...

Peter, I know you have already forgiven things as you have heart of

angel... I

treasure the memory that I have had with you forever,, Peter, I am so

sorry

that you had to go so soon.. you are only a little over a year old.. I

am

going to miss you so much,, but the thought of your soul continue to

live

gives me a courage to continue to live.. love so dearly and love

forever,,




Your mama..



--
MaryChristine

AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 289856892






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Re: Now Peter has become an angel - so soon...


well said, marylyn--they seem to understand the natural order of
things SO much better than we do!

it always hurts when they leave, but i think they leave a big part of
themselves behind, staking out their own piece of our hearts forever.

love never dies, it just changes form. that's what i try to hold onto.

MC

On 8/8/06, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Of course it hurts.they would have meant nothing if their
leaving didn't cause grief and tears.  They don't want us to feel this way
but we must because we are human and not nearly as wise as they are.  If you
have rescue remedy or any other essence handy try it.  But only with the
idea that it will help you feel what you need to feel, not that it will take
away the pain.  Talk to them and let them know how you feel and how you miss
them.  This helps a lot of people though, depending on who is around, you
may want to go for a long walk while you are doing this.  Tell them
everything you are feeling and how grateful you are to have had their bodies
in your life and how much you want them to remain around you.  Cry all you
need to.  It washes out the pain and leaves the wonderful memories.  Bless
you.






If you have men who will
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with
their fellow man.
 St.
Francis
- Original Message -
From: Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 6:53 PM
Subject: RE: Now Peter has become an angel - so soon...


MC, I feel so lonely without Peter and Naomi.. and don't know what to do
with the feeling..I know I have to believe and their souls are right
besides me, but it hurts not to be able to hold them...and see them..

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCats
Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 5:49 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Now Peter has become an angel - so soon...

hideyo, i'm so sorry about peter. i don't believe for a minute, tho,
that leaving him on the street would have lengthened his life, and for
sure, his life would have been without love and safety.

GLOW to heal your heart.

MC

On 8/8/06, Hideyo Yamamoto [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:



 Hi, everyone, thank you very much for your prayers for Peter - Peter
has
 crossed the bridge on the way to a peaceful land this afternoon about
two
 hours ago - it happened so quickly and was so unexpected and I am
still in
 shock.. though my eyes are very exhausted from crying so much... I
just can't
 believe how quickly he passed away... and I just numb not feeling much



 One week ago, I lost my baby Naomi... and then I lost Peter.. my words
cannot
 express how empty I feel and how badly I feel right now.. but I know
that
 their souls continue to live and they will be in my heart
eternallyHere's
 to my baby Peter..



 Dear My Peter,



 Peter, you are the most beautiful baby I have met in both soul and
body.. I
 am so grateful of the opportunity to have met you.. I wish I could
have
 spent more time with you..

 When I met you and brought you home from Arno street in February, you
were
 so talkative and full of energy... I cannot help thinking that your
life would
 have been much longer if I did not bring you home because I know in my
heart
 that you got something that made you very sick from my other kitties
at
 home.. I so badly wanted to fight with you against whatever illness
that you
 were fighting against.. and I am so sorry that I couldn't make it go
away...
 Peter, I know you have already forgiven things as you have heart of
angel... I
 treasure the memory that I have had with you forever,, Peter, I am so
sorry
 that you had to go so soon.. you are only a little over a year old.. I
am
 going to miss you so much,, but the thought of your soul continue to
live
 gives me a courage to continue to live.. love so dearly and love
forever,,



 Your mama..


--
MaryChristine

AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ICQ: 289856892






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Re: Nya Please add her to the CLS




Sherry, My condolences for your loss, please pass my sympathy along to the 
volunteer that adopted/lost Nya, you didn't say his/her name.
Phaewryn
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Re: Now Peter has become an angel - so soon...




Hideyo, perhaps swiftness is a blessing, he is at peace now. Keep your 
always powerful spirit safe, my blessings go out for you and all you do.
Phaewryn

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Re: I need to vent (OT)




I'm going to get a print out of the visit, itemized, when I go to get food 
this weekend.. it does seem crazy high, I swear, they didn't DO anything, but 
maybe I forgot something now that they did then. Oh, yeah, they did give him a 
shot of something... after I insisted. I know, I'm now one of those clients that 
demands my cat get a shot before leaving.. sigh.. whatever they think, I don't 
care at this point.
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LOL Beth! Yep, it must be the standard "get out of it cheap and easy" 
thing, the 3ML dosing. I did call my vet today after work, told them how unhappy 
I was with the compounding pharmacy, asked them to write me a new prescription 
at a reasonable dosage (volume) of 0.5 ML, and flavored as something a CAT might 
EAT in real life. The tech (I know them all first name basis now) was very 
shocked that the mistake had been made, and apologized, she's calling the 
pharmacy tomorrow during their normal hours, and most likely, they will FIX this 
mistake at no cost to me. I'll know more tomorrow. I told them if they couldn't 
work it out, I would be asking for a faxed prescription to drsfostersmith.com. I 
talked to them also, they were very helpful, and suggested the volume ML/MG for 
me to request at my vet's office. I'll probably use them if this doesn't work 
out at no cost to me.
Phaewryn

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Re: I need to vent (OT)

Thanks for the link Belinda

Phaewryn

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Well, the other vet's officeis a bit "backwards" (behind the times, 
on most issues) so that's why I switched to this "better" vet clinic. But, I got 
stuck with this new fresh out of vet school doctor.. next time, I will ask for 
the good vet there by name, you can be sure! LOL! I did call today, and told the 
vet receptionist (a girl I get along very well with, I bottle fed her babies 
this weekend while I was there) that I knew more then their new vet did, and 
asked if she was fresh out of school, and she laughed and said "Well, yeah, 
pretty much."! Anyways,, now I know.
Phaewryn

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just need to vent about my feral feluk

2006-08-08 Thread JENI RECA

sorry, I just need to vent about the frustration I am going through right 
now with the feral feluk living in my house...I know I don't have as big as 
problems as everyone else, but I know some of you can sympathize with 
me...so the story is after our beloved papoose died of feluk, I was 
approached at work by the head of the HR department at my shelter and she 
asked me if I could take in a feluk she trapped and spayed and was going to 
release until they found out she was feluk.  I said yes, because our feluk 
Hillman Waller was lonely after papoose passed on and well I was lonely too 
with only one cat and the three dogs in the house and I wanted to help other 
feluks.  My husband  was not too happy at all, didnt really like the idea 
another cat, he didnt even want papoose (but fell head over heels in love 
with him).  So i took home this very feral black female about 5 years old 
feluk postive.  We have had her for about 3 months and I have not gotten to 
touch her once, I am okay with that, but it hurts not to be able to pet her 
and show her I like her.  She first lived in a play cage but was more 
freaked out about being in it and attacked me anytime I went to change the 
litter or feed her, I let her loose in the house.  She had hiding spaces and 
that was fine, I checked up on her and made sure she ate, but now she has 
gotten into the wall of the duplex we live in.  The basement was refinished 
into a living space that we have and they put up new walls but there is a 
space between the new walls and the old and she got into the there by an 
opening that popped open without my knowlegde and now we cant get her out!  
I am so frustrated and upset that she is in the wall and that she isnt going 
to come out for me.  most likely we will have to trap her but i just think 
she so unhappy it seams and I feel bad for her.  she is so freaked out by 
our dogs and our other cat tries to get close to her but she doesnt really 
like him.  he's lonely and she must be lonely, and i fell awful about her 
and now she is the wall and i wrote a really long story.  i know i shouldnt 
complain i know people out here on the list have it a lot worst then me, I 
am just upset and worried because who knows what is in those walls and god 
forbid she eats something back there she shouldnt and chews on something 
back there she shouldn't and well rats, i hope i dont have rats, i live in a 
city...sorry for venting and thank you for listening...everyone is so good 
to each other on this list, it's nice to have

jeni

Re: just need to vent about my feral feluk

2006-08-08 Thread Brenda Smith


Hey Jeni,
I trapped a Feral cat last year and we changed him to a different condo 
and didn't realise he could get in the wall.  I couldn't get him out 
either.  I put really smelly food where he could get to it and where I 
could grab him and after a few times I got him out and fixed the whole.  
Where gloves if you are not sure how the cat will react.  Good luck, Janine


JENI RECA wrote:
sorry, I just need to vent about the frustration I am going through 
right now with the feral feluk living in my house...I know I don't 
have as big as problems as everyone else, but I know some of you can 
sympathize with me...so the story is after our beloved papoose died of 
feluk, I was approached at work by the head of the HR department at my 
shelter and she asked me if I could take in a feluk she trapped and 
spayed and was going to release until they found out she was feluk.  I 
said yes, because our feluk Hillman Waller was lonely after papoose 
passed on and well I was lonely too with only one cat and the three 
dogs in the house and I wanted to help other feluks.  My husband  was 
not too happy at all, didnt really like the idea another cat, he didnt 
even want papoose (but fell head over heels in love with him).  So i 
took home this very feral black female about 5 years old feluk 
postive.  We have had her for about 3 months and I have not gotten to 
touch her once, I am okay with that, but it hurts not to be able to 
pet her and show her I like her.  She first lived in a play cage but 
was more freaked out about being in it and attacked me anytime I went 
to change the litter or feed her, I let her loose in the house.  She 
had hiding spaces and that was fine, I checked up on her and made sure 
she ate, but now she has gotten into the wall of the duplex we live 
in.  The basement was refinished into a living space that we have and 
they put up new walls but there is a space between the new walls and 
the old and she got into the there by an opening that popped open 
without my knowlegde and now we cant get her out!  I am so frustrated 
and upset that she is in the wall and that she isnt going to come out 
for me.  most likely we will have to trap her but i just think she so 
unhappy it seams and I feel bad for her.  she is so freaked out by our 
dogs and our other cat tries to get close to her but she doesnt really 
like him.  he's lonely and she must be lonely, and i fell awful about 
her and now she is the wall and i wrote a really long story.  i know i 
shouldnt complain i know people out here on the list have it a lot 
worst then me, I am just upset and worried because who knows what is 
in those walls and god forbid she eats something back there she 
shouldnt and chews on something back there she shouldn't and well 
rats, i hope i dont have rats, i live in a city...sorry for venting 
and thank you for listening...everyone is so good to each other on 
this list, it's nice to have

jeni

Re: Kiko and Mickey

2006-08-08 Thread Sherry DeHaan

so sorry to hear that you lost two beloved pets so close together,hugs to you.  SherryMarylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:  I am so sorry for your loss. Know that both Kiko and Mickey love you dearly.   If you have men who will exclude any of God's
 creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who  will deal likewise with their fellow
 man. St. Francis- Original Message -   From: Diane Rosenfeldt   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org   Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 6:43 PM  Subject: Re: Kiko and MickeyI am so sorry that you had this double loss so close together. It's hard enough one at a time. Gentlest of Bridge vibes to them both, and comfort to you.Diane R.-Original Message-From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 5:07 PMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Now Peter has become an angel - so soon...  Dear Hideyo, so sorry for your losses. I too lost my cat today to feline leukemia, it was hard for kiko to breathe anymore, unfortunately we had to put him down. Also, my poor mickey oldest dog passed away yesterday at home in his sleep at the age of 13. It has been a horrible week, the worst I have had in a long time. No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.7/411 - Release Date: 8/7/2006 
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Re: Kiko and Mickey

2006-08-08 Thread LVega50899




Thanks for your kind words, sherry,marilyn and diane. It means alot when 
you are going through emotional times.

Re: just need to vent about my feral feluk

I'll read the rest later///Right now find some Feliway Spray 
and some Catnip Spray and spray everything.  Including you.  And know that 
you are doing good.  It sounds like a feral or a socialized feral.  They are 
wonderful but difficult.  Trust meI've had the privilege 
of living with a couple of them.






If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
from the shelter of 
compassion and pity, you will have men who
will deal likewise with 
their fellow man.
 St. 
Francis
- Original Message - 
From: JENI RECA [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, August 07, 2006 10:43 PM
Subject: just need to vent about my feral feluk


sorry, I just need to vent about the frustration I am going through right 
now with the feral feluk living in my house...I know I don't have as big 
as problems as everyone else, but I know some of you can sympathize with 
me...so the story is after our beloved papoose died of feluk, I was 
approached at work by the head of the HR department at my shelter and she 
asked me if I could take in a feluk she trapped and spayed and was going 
to release until they found out she was feluk.  I said yes, because our 
feluk Hillman Waller was lonely after papoose passed on and well I was 
lonely too with only one cat and the three dogs in the house and I wanted 
to help other feluks.  My husband  was not too happy at all, didnt really 
like the idea another cat, he didnt even want papoose (but fell head over 
heels in love with him).  So i took home this very feral black female 
about 5 years old feluk postive.  We have had her for about 3 months and I 
have not gotten to touch her once, I am okay with that, but it hurts not 
to be able to pet her and show her I like her.  She first lived in a play 
cage but was more freaked out about being in it and attacked me anytime I 
went to change the litter or feed her, I let her loose in the house.  She 
had hiding spaces and that was fine, I checked up on her and made sure she 
ate, but now she has gotten into the wall of the duplex we live in.  The 
basement was refinished into a living space that we have and they put up 
new walls but there is a space between the new walls and the old and she 
got into the there by an opening that popped open without my knowlegde and 
now we cant get her out!  I am so frustrated and upset that she is in the 
wall and that she isnt going to come out for me.  most likely we will have 
to trap her but i just think she so unhappy it seams and I feel bad for 
her.  she is so freaked out by our dogs and our other cat tries to get 
close to her but she doesnt really like him.  he's lonely and she must be 
lonely, and i fell awful about her and now she is the wall and i wrote a 
really long story.  i know i shouldnt complain i know people out here on 
the list have it a lot worst then me, I am just upset and worried because 
who knows what is in those walls and god forbid she eats something back 
there she shouldnt and chews on something back there she shouldn't and 
well rats, i hope i dont have rats, i live in a city...sorry for venting 
and thank you for listening...everyone is so good to each other on this 
list, it's nice to have

jeni





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Dempsey Please add to CLS

2006-08-08 Thread Sherry DeHaan

Sweet handsome gray tiger with such beautiful green eyes is now with so many other angels that have lost the battle with felv.It has been a sad week for many of us.One thing that comforts me is that I know Maizee is not alone on the other side of the bridge,I hope all the babies that I love and care for can pass on loving memories to her and she can to them. I know it sounds silly but it is my comfort.Bless you all 
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Re: just need to vent about my feral feluk

2006-08-08 Thread Belinda


Jeni,
  I'm sorry your're having so much trouble with your little feral.  
Hopefully she'll come out and figure out what a good thing she's got.


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