Re: outdoor enclosures

[Taylor Scobie Humphrey]

New York is just like that!  Just a joke~~I once lived there and I do  
miss it!


"Consciousness is Causal
 and Physicality is its
 Manifestation."


On Jun 3, 2007, at 2:03 PM, Pam Norman wrote:

The PVC coated wire mesh works fine in Wisconsin & fine in Utah. I  
don't see why it wouldn't work in NY!  It's very strong, 4x4 coated  
wire.


Pam

dede hicken wrote:

Yeah, the mesh was great in Fl.  I even brought some
with me.  Guess what?  It doesn't work in NY...sigh. We were told  
by a large cat sanctuary (Peace
Plantation) to use 1x2 galvanized welded rabbit wire. He showed us  
what 2 winters did to the mesh.  They had

spent $6,500 on it and it bombed.  The stupid
manufacturer said "It's not for commercial use"  Well
duh, if it works, it works.  Zip ties don't work here
either.

It's very hard to describe what we've done now by
writing.  I can tell you that in Fl. we got a 10x10
enclosure from Ace Hardware and covered it using mesh
and zip ties.  Some folks use fish line.  You have to
adapt the door so they can't get through. a chain link
fence guy can do that for you.

We will be using Kittywalk to connect the 2 enclosures
we will have here.

Dede
--- Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



I have what I call a "catiary" cause it looks like
an aviary. It was built at the same time as my deck so it could be
incorporated into the plan. It's between a wing of the deck & the  
house &

goes from ground level to roof level of single story house.  The
floor is concrete for cleaning - a lockable screen door goes to  
the yard &

the "walls" are 4" PVC coated mesh that is exactly what BestFriends
uses in their outdoor rooms. It's VERY strong & does not cut down  
on light

as does most of the regular, weaker, tearable mesh screen.

Inside there are shelves at staggered heights for
sunning & romping.  I scrounded a tall thick tree branch & a really
crookedy one that are propped in one corner for climbing &  
scratching. The roof is that coorrugated plastic. I keep one or  
two litter boxes

out there.

The cats have access to the catiary from a cat door
from the screened porch & access to the screened porch from a cat  
door

into the kitchen. Works great. In cold weather they can go out there
without letting the cold into the house.

I looked at enclosures on the web & found that
utterly boring. I think the best ones are the ones that the  
people design

themselves. Y ou .should be able to get a handyman to build it. The
man who built mine along with the deck got a huge kick out of it.  
Said

he'd never had a "cat room" on his resume before!

Pam

Jane Lyons wrote:


I'm sorry to be constantly asking questions,
but hopefully we can get the newness of this


diagnosis


and all the issues it raises on the right path ...
Can anyone recommend an outdoor enclosure for cats
that works well. Again, I Googled the category and


there


are hundreds of choices. I was hoping someone


might have


experience with a design or quality that works.
I suspect that MeMe was at one time in her young


life on


her own because she can climb trees better than


squirrels and


seems to know her way around the terrain. I need


an enclosure that


will allow her some measure of freedom and


activity.


I appreciate any information or leads someone


might have.


Jane











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Re: outdoor enclosures

[Taylor Scobie Humphrey]

MeMe is SUCH a lucky little furchild!  Can you do a fence or do you  
want an enclosure?


"Consciousness is Causal
 and Physicality is its
 Manifestation."


On Jun 3, 2007, at 10:41 AM, Jane Lyons wrote:


I'm sorry to be constantly asking questions,
but hopefully we can get the newness of this diagnosis
and all the issues it raises on the right path ...
Can anyone recommend an outdoor enclosure for cats
that works well. Again, I Googled the category and there
are hundreds of choices. I was hoping someone might have
experience with a design or quality that works.
I suspect that MeMe was at one time in her young life on
her own because she can climb trees better than squirrels and
seems to know her way around the terrain. I need an enclosure that
will allow her some measure of freedom and activity.

I appreciate any information or leads someone might have.
Jane

Re: Update on Kisa

[Nina]

I almost hate to bring this up, but Dox is really harsh on the 
esophagus.  My vet tech told me about a guy, (human), that stupidly took 
some without water and burned a hole in his throat.  It's really 
important to wash pills down with a little bit of water, tuna water, or 
when I was giving meds to my felv guys, I'd follow the pill with their 
Interferon.  You want to make sure they swallow Dox.  If you can get 
them to eat or drink directly afterward that works, but Kisa's not 
eating that much so I'd syringe just a tiny bit of liquid to be sure.

N

C & J wrote:
We could do this with Tomi, but Kisa is like trying to pill a wild 
squirrel. She moves too fast to even react, and can squirm away in any 
direction...plus her mouth is small.  This is with both my husband and 
I holding her wrapped in a towel, plus she's weak and anemic.  It's 
even harder as she gains strength.


Cassandra

Re: Update on Kisa

[C & J]

We could do this with Tomi, but Kisa is like trying to pill a wild squirrel. 
She moves too fast to even react, and can squirm away in any 
direction...plus her mouth is small.  This is with both my husband and I 
holding her wrapped in a towel, plus she's weak and anemic.  It's even 
harder as she gains strength.


Cassandra

- Original Message - 
From: "Pam Norman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 9:23 PM
Subject: Re: Update on Kisa


Cat food juices are more slippery (I wanted to say 'slipperier" but that's 
obviously wrong!).  If you can wedge her between your knees on the floor 
so she is firmly held by your thighs & body, then get mouth open & whammo 
in the back of the mouth. I've had so much experience with pills that I 
basically just put them in my hand & go looking for the subject kitty. 
Most of the tme, just bending over, backing them up to my legs & opening 
the mouth will do. It's all over before they can object!


Pam

C & J wrote:
These pills come in a gelcap already.  The problem is, she squirms and 
moves her tongue around like crazy, so I have to try avoiding the tongue 
and getting the pill right to the back of her throat, or else she bites 
it. Once she bites it, she foams at the mouth like crazy, so it must 
taste really bad.  I think the vet techs were having a heck of a time 
giving her pills too when she was there.


I am trying to coat it in butter, but cat food juice sounds good too.

Cassandra

- Original Message - From: "Pam Norman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: Update on Kisa


I find that the easiest way is to cut the tablet up & put it in a small 
gelcap. Then roll the gelcap in cat food juices. Makes it slippery & 
tastes good so they swallow! Not like sticking a nasty pill in that 
sticks someplace in the mouth to be spit out later on.


Pam

C & J wrote:
Yes i'm giving her doxy, but she's one heck of a tough kitty to give 
pills to. Tomi is way easier to give pills.


Cassandra


- Original Message - From: "Belinda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: Update on Kisa



Cassandra,
I hope she is still getting the doxy otherwise your only 
prolonging the inevitable, hemo does not go away on its own.  If her 
anemia is because od hemo she needs the doxy to live.


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Re: cassandra...pill plunger?

[C & J]

Yes, but it didn't work very well at all, the plunger didn't go all the way 
to the end, and it was too long.  We made our own plunger out of a syringe 
tonight, and that seemed to work ok.


Cassandra

- Original Message - 
From: "Jane Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 9:51 PM
Subject: cassandra...pill plunger?



Cassandra do you have a pill plunger to pill Kisa?
We got one from our vet and it has made pilling
MeMe and our Scotties so much easier. If you don't have one,
I can ask my vet where you can get one.

Jane




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outdoor enclosures

[Jane Lyons]

Thanks everyone for all the great suggestions and links.

Kelly thank you for the link to your wonderful rescue
facility and especially for the loving care you give to
those sweet, vulnerable beings.

Dede I would love to get your ideas for a enclosure.
I'll be in touch.

Jane

cassandra...pill plunger?

[Jane Lyons]

Cassandra do you have a pill plunger to pill Kisa?
We got one from our vet and it has made pilling
MeMe and our Scotties so much easier. If you don't have one,
I can ask my vet where you can get one.

Jane

Re: Update on Kisa

[Pam Norman]

Cat food juices are more slippery (I wanted to say 'slipperier" but 
that's obviously wrong!).  If you can wedge her between your knees on 
the floor so she is firmly held by your thighs & body, then get mouth 
open & whammo in the back of the mouth. I've had so much experience with 
pills that I basically just put them in my hand & go looking for the 
subject kitty. Most of the tme, just bending over, backing them up to my 
legs & opening the mouth will do. It's all over before they can object!


Pam

C & J wrote:
These pills come in a gelcap already.  The problem is, she squirms and 
moves her tongue around like crazy, so I have to try avoiding the 
tongue and getting the pill right to the back of her throat, or else 
she bites it. Once she bites it, she foams at the mouth like crazy, so 
it must taste really bad.  I think the vet techs were having a heck of 
a time giving her pills too when she was there.


I am trying to coat it in butter, but cat food juice sounds good too.

Cassandra

- Original Message - From: "Pam Norman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: Update on Kisa


I find that the easiest way is to cut the tablet up & put it in a 
small gelcap. Then roll the gelcap in cat food juices. Makes it 
slippery & tastes good so they swallow! Not like sticking a nasty 
pill in that sticks someplace in the mouth to be spit out later on.


Pam

C & J wrote:
Yes i'm giving her doxy, but she's one heck of a tough kitty to give 
pills to. Tomi is way easier to give pills.


Cassandra


- Original Message - From: "Belinda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: Update on Kisa



Cassandra,
I hope she is still getting the doxy otherwise your only 
prolonging the inevitable, hemo does not go away on its own.  If 
her anemia is because od hemo she needs the doxy to live.


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LOLCats

[Lance]

I don't know if any of you have seen these, but they're kinda funny.  
They're basically a combination of the "Hang In There, Baby" posters,  
and pidgin English/text message-speak.


Wikipedia discusses them here:



A good site for browsing them:



That is all.

Re: Update on Kisa

[C & J]

These pills come in a gelcap already.  The problem is, she squirms and moves 
her tongue around like crazy, so I have to try avoiding the tongue and 
getting the pill right to the back of her throat, or else she bites it. 
Once she bites it, she foams at the mouth like crazy, so it must taste 
really bad.  I think the vet techs were having a heck of a time giving her 
pills too when she was there.


I am trying to coat it in butter, but cat food juice sounds good too.

Cassandra

- Original Message - 
From: "Pam Norman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 8:53 PM
Subject: Re: Update on Kisa


I find that the easiest way is to cut the tablet up & put it in a small 
gelcap. Then roll the gelcap in cat food juices. Makes it slippery & tastes 
good so they swallow! Not like sticking a nasty pill in that sticks 
someplace in the mouth to be spit out later on.


Pam

C & J wrote:
Yes i'm giving her doxy, but she's one heck of a tough kitty to give 
pills to. Tomi is way easier to give pills.


Cassandra


- Original Message - From: "Belinda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: Update on Kisa



Cassandra,
I hope she is still getting the doxy otherwise your only prolonging 
the inevitable, hemo does not go away on its own.  If her anemia is 
because od hemo she needs the doxy to live.


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Re: Update on Kisa

[Pam Norman]

I find that the easiest way is to cut the tablet up & put it in a small 
gelcap. Then roll the gelcap in cat food juices. Makes it slippery & 
tastes good so they swallow! Not like sticking a nasty pill in that 
sticks someplace in the mouth to be spit out later on.


Pam

C & J wrote:
Yes i'm giving her doxy, but she's one heck of a tough kitty to give 
pills to. Tomi is way easier to give pills.


Cassandra


- Original Message - From: "Belinda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: Update on Kisa



Cassandra,
I hope she is still getting the doxy otherwise your only 
prolonging the inevitable, hemo does not go away on its own.  If her 
anemia is because od hemo she needs the doxy to live.


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Re: outdoor enclosures

[Pam Norman]

I wanted the same stuff they used at Best Friends because it is so 
strong. Out there they use it not only to keep dogs & cats from getting 
out but to keep other critters from getting in .  INitially I thought we 
were going to have to have it shippped from the East Coast but I THINK 
we found an outlet here in WI that carried it. Yes, pricey, but worth it 
in the long run.


P

dede hicken wrote:

OK.  The stuff that was used was NOT wire coated with
PVC...just plastic coated mesh of some sort.  THAT
stuff does not work in cold climates.

I did see the PVC coated wire at the feed store.  It's
a bit pricy, but it does work well.

Dede


--- Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

The PVC coated wire mesh works fine in Wisconsin &
fine in Utah. I don't 
see why it wouldn't work in NY!  It's very strong,

4x4 coated wire.

Pam

dede hicken wrote:


Yeah, the mesh was great in Fl.  I even brought
  

some


with me.  Guess what?  It doesn't work in
  
NY...sigh. 


We were told by a large cat sanctuary (Peace
Plantation) to use 1x2 galvanized welded rabbit
  
wire. 


He showed us what 2 winters did to the mesh.  They
  

had


spent $6,500 on it and it bombed.  The stupid
manufacturer said "It's not for commercial use" 
  

Well


duh, if it works, it works.  Zip ties don't work
  

here


either.

It's very hard to describe what we've done now by
writing.  I can tell you that in Fl. we got a
  

10x10


enclosure from Ace Hardware and covered it using
  

mesh


and zip ties.  Some folks use fish line.  You have
  

to


adapt the door so they can't get through. a chain
  

link


fence guy can do that for you.

We will be using Kittywalk to connect the 2
  

enclosures


we will have here.

Dede
--- Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  
  

I have what I call a "catiary" cause it looks


like

an aviary. It was 
built at the same time as my deck so it could be
incorporated into the 
plan. It's between a wing of the deck & the house


&

goes from ground 
level to roof level of single story house.  The
floor is concrete for 
cleaning - a lockable screen door goes to the


yard &

the "walls" are 4" 
PVC coated mesh that is exactly what BestFriends
uses in their outdoor 
rooms. It's VERY strong & does not cut down on


light

as does most of the 
regular, weaker, tearable mesh screen.


Inside there are shelves at staggered heights for
sunning & romping.  I 
scrounded a tall thick tree branch & a really
crookedy one that are 
propped in one corner for climbing & scratching. 
The roof is that 
coorrugated plastic. I keep one or two litter


boxes


out there.

The cats have access to the catiary from a cat


door

from the screened 
porch & access to the screened porch from a cat


door

into the kitchen. 
Works great. In cold weather they can go out


there

without letting the 
cold into the house.


I looked at enclosures on the web & found that
utterly boring. I think 
the best ones are the ones that the people design
themselves. Y ou 
.should be able to get a handyman to build it.


The

man who built mine 
along with the deck got a huge kick out of it.


Said

he'd never had a 
"cat room" on his resume before!


Pam

Jane Lyons wrote:



I'm sorry to be constantly asking questions,
but hopefully we can get the newness of this
  
  

diagnosis



and all the issues it raises on the right path
  

...


Can anyone recommend an outdoor enclosure for
  

cats


that works well. Again, I Googled the category
  

and

  
  

there



are hundreds of choices. I was hoping someone
  
  

might have



experience with a design or quality that works.
I suspect that MeMe was at one time in her young
  
  

life on



her own because she can climb trees better than
  
  

squirrels and



seems to know her way around the terrain. I need
  
  

an enclosure that



will allow her some measure of freedom and
  
  

activity.



I appreciate any information or leads someone
  
  

might have.



Jane




  
  



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beings, you are only in the service of your God"


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Re: Update on Kisa

[C & J]

Yes i'm giving her doxy, but she's one heck of a tough kitty to give pills 
to. Tomi is way easier to give pills.


Cassandra


- Original Message - 
From: "Belinda" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

To: 
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2007 2:44 PM
Subject: Re: Update on Kisa



Cassandra,
I hope she is still getting the doxy otherwise your only prolonging 
the inevitable, hemo does not go away on its own.  If her anemia is 
because od hemo she needs the doxy to live.


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Re: Skidboot video

[MaryChristine]

was indeed wonderful, nina.

http://www.skidboot.com/


On 6/3/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Here's a video that had me in happy tears, something I know we could all
use:

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Re: Sally

[Sally Davis]

I am sure the ASPCA has been advised of this fact. My thought is most people
don't know the difference and better to err on the safe side and include
daylilies in the toxic plant list. Hostas are related to daylilies as well.
I know for a fact one of my cats has chewed on seedlings I had growing in
the house with no adverse affect. I do however shoo her away. You can send
me  picture. I will see what I can do. We ID plants at work all the time for
people.

Sally

Re: outdoor enclosures

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

Yes, plastic of any kind totally cracks and falls apart in the winter here
too. I stand out for a peace vigil every Friday evening, and I had signs
made and had them in 3 ring binders, which I used as easels to display the
signs on the sidewalk, and I used them all last summer. As soon as it got
below 20 degrees, they instantly cracked and fell apart.

Phaewryn

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Re: outdoor enclosures

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

That's really nice Kelly!

Phaewryn

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Re: outdoor enclosures

[[EMAIL PROTECTED]]

I have collected a collection of the best links I could find on my links
page below. You'll have to scroll down to the bottom of the page, as it's
the last section, I think.
http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html

My favorite one (from examining their website - I do not own one), is:
http://www.thecatsden.net/enclosure.html

Re: Update on Kisa

[Belinda]

Cassandra,
I hope she is still getting the doxy otherwise your only prolonging 
the inevitable, hemo does not go away on its own.  If her anemia is 
because od hemo she needs the doxy to live.


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Re: outdoor enclosures

[dede hicken]

OK.  The stuff that was used was NOT wire coated with
PVC...just plastic coated mesh of some sort.  THAT
stuff does not work in cold climates.

I did see the PVC coated wire at the feed store.  It's
a bit pricy, but it does work well.

Dede


--- Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> The PVC coated wire mesh works fine in Wisconsin &
> fine in Utah. I don't 
> see why it wouldn't work in NY!  It's very strong,
> 4x4 coated wire.
> 
> Pam
> 
> dede hicken wrote:
> > Yeah, the mesh was great in Fl.  I even brought
> some
> > with me.  Guess what?  It doesn't work in
> NY...sigh. 
> > We were told by a large cat sanctuary (Peace
> > Plantation) to use 1x2 galvanized welded rabbit
> wire. 
> > He showed us what 2 winters did to the mesh.  They
> had
> > spent $6,500 on it and it bombed.  The stupid
> > manufacturer said "It's not for commercial use" 
> Well
> > duh, if it works, it works.  Zip ties don't work
> here
> > either.
> >
> > It's very hard to describe what we've done now by
> > writing.  I can tell you that in Fl. we got a
> 10x10
> > enclosure from Ace Hardware and covered it using
> mesh
> > and zip ties.  Some folks use fish line.  You have
> to
> > adapt the door so they can't get through. a chain
> link
> > fence guy can do that for you.
> >
> > We will be using Kittywalk to connect the 2
> enclosures
> > we will have here.
> >
> > Dede
> > --- Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> I have what I call a "catiary" cause it looks
> like
> >> an aviary. It was 
> >> built at the same time as my deck so it could be
> >> incorporated into the 
> >> plan. It's between a wing of the deck & the house
> &
> >> goes from ground 
> >> level to roof level of single story house.  The
> >> floor is concrete for 
> >> cleaning - a lockable screen door goes to the
> yard &
> >> the "walls" are 4" 
> >> PVC coated mesh that is exactly what BestFriends
> >> uses in their outdoor 
> >> rooms. It's VERY strong & does not cut down on
> light
> >> as does most of the 
> >> regular, weaker, tearable mesh screen.
> >>
> >> Inside there are shelves at staggered heights for
> >> sunning & romping.  I 
> >> scrounded a tall thick tree branch & a really
> >> crookedy one that are 
> >> propped in one corner for climbing & scratching. 
> >> The roof is that 
> >> coorrugated plastic. I keep one or two litter
> boxes
> >> out there.
> >>
> >> The cats have access to the catiary from a cat
> door
> >> from the screened 
> >> porch & access to the screened porch from a cat
> door
> >> into the kitchen. 
> >> Works great. In cold weather they can go out
> there
> >> without letting the 
> >> cold into the house.
> >>
> >> I looked at enclosures on the web & found that
> >> utterly boring. I think 
> >> the best ones are the ones that the people design
> >> themselves. Y ou 
> >> .should be able to get a handyman to build it.
> The
> >> man who built mine 
> >> along with the deck got a huge kick out of it.
> Said
> >> he'd never had a 
> >> "cat room" on his resume before!
> >>
> >> Pam
> >>
> >> Jane Lyons wrote:
> >> 
> >>> I'm sorry to be constantly asking questions,
> >>> but hopefully we can get the newness of this
> >>>   
> >> diagnosis
> >> 
> >>> and all the issues it raises on the right path
> ...
> >>> Can anyone recommend an outdoor enclosure for
> cats
> >>> that works well. Again, I Googled the category
> and
> >>>   
> >> there
> >> 
> >>> are hundreds of choices. I was hoping someone
> >>>   
> >> might have
> >> 
> >>> experience with a design or quality that works.
> >>> I suspect that MeMe was at one time in her young
> >>>   
> >> life on
> >> 
> >>> her own because she can climb trees better than
> >>>   
> >> squirrels and
> >> 
> >>> seems to know her way around the terrain. I need
> >>>   
> >> an enclosure that
> >> 
> >>> will allow her some measure of freedom and
> >>>   
> >> activity.
> >> 
> >>> I appreciate any information or leads someone
> >>>   
> >> might have.
> >> 
> >>> Jane
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>   
> >>
> >> 
> >
> >
> > "When you are in the service of your fellow
> beings, you are only in the service of your God"
> >Mosiah 2:17
> >
> >
> >  
> >
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Re: outdoor enclosures

[Pam Norman]

The PVC coated wire mesh works fine in Wisconsin & fine in Utah. I don't 
see why it wouldn't work in NY!  It's very strong, 4x4 coated wire.


Pam

dede hicken wrote:

Yeah, the mesh was great in Fl.  I even brought some
with me.  Guess what?  It doesn't work in NY...sigh. 
We were told by a large cat sanctuary (Peace
Plantation) to use 1x2 galvanized welded rabbit wire. 
He showed us what 2 winters did to the mesh.  They had

spent $6,500 on it and it bombed.  The stupid
manufacturer said "It's not for commercial use"  Well
duh, if it works, it works.  Zip ties don't work here
either.

It's very hard to describe what we've done now by
writing.  I can tell you that in Fl. we got a 10x10
enclosure from Ace Hardware and covered it using mesh
and zip ties.  Some folks use fish line.  You have to
adapt the door so they can't get through. a chain link
fence guy can do that for you.

We will be using Kittywalk to connect the 2 enclosures
we will have here.

Dede
--- Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

  

I have what I call a "catiary" cause it looks like
an aviary. It was 
built at the same time as my deck so it could be
incorporated into the 
plan. It's between a wing of the deck & the house &
goes from ground 
level to roof level of single story house.  The
floor is concrete for 
cleaning - a lockable screen door goes to the yard &
the "walls" are 4" 
PVC coated mesh that is exactly what BestFriends
uses in their outdoor 
rooms. It's VERY strong & does not cut down on light
as does most of the 
regular, weaker, tearable mesh screen.


Inside there are shelves at staggered heights for
sunning & romping.  I 
scrounded a tall thick tree branch & a really
crookedy one that are 
propped in one corner for climbing & scratching. 
The roof is that 
coorrugated plastic. I keep one or two litter boxes

out there.

The cats have access to the catiary from a cat door
from the screened 
porch & access to the screened porch from a cat door
into the kitchen. 
Works great. In cold weather they can go out there
without letting the 
cold into the house.


I looked at enclosures on the web & found that
utterly boring. I think 
the best ones are the ones that the people design
themselves. Y ou 
.should be able to get a handyman to build it. The
man who built mine 
along with the deck got a huge kick out of it. Said
he'd never had a 
"cat room" on his resume before!


Pam

Jane Lyons wrote:


I'm sorry to be constantly asking questions,
but hopefully we can get the newness of this
  

diagnosis


and all the issues it raises on the right path ...
Can anyone recommend an outdoor enclosure for cats
that works well. Again, I Googled the category and
  

there


are hundreds of choices. I was hoping someone
  

might have


experience with a design or quality that works.
I suspect that MeMe was at one time in her young
  

life on


her own because she can climb trees better than
  

squirrels and


seems to know her way around the terrain. I need
  

an enclosure that


will allow her some measure of freedom and
  

activity.


I appreciate any information or leads someone
  

might have.


Jane




  






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Re: outdoor enclosures

[dede hicken]

Yeah, the mesh was great in Fl.  I even brought some
with me.  Guess what?  It doesn't work in NY...sigh. 
We were told by a large cat sanctuary (Peace
Plantation) to use 1x2 galvanized welded rabbit wire. 
He showed us what 2 winters did to the mesh.  They had
spent $6,500 on it and it bombed.  The stupid
manufacturer said "It's not for commercial use"  Well
duh, if it works, it works.  Zip ties don't work here
either.

It's very hard to describe what we've done now by
writing.  I can tell you that in Fl. we got a 10x10
enclosure from Ace Hardware and covered it using mesh
and zip ties.  Some folks use fish line.  You have to
adapt the door so they can't get through. a chain link
fence guy can do that for you.

We will be using Kittywalk to connect the 2 enclosures
we will have here.

Dede
--- Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I have what I call a "catiary" cause it looks like
> an aviary. It was 
> built at the same time as my deck so it could be
> incorporated into the 
> plan. It's between a wing of the deck & the house &
> goes from ground 
> level to roof level of single story house.  The
> floor is concrete for 
> cleaning - a lockable screen door goes to the yard &
> the "walls" are 4" 
> PVC coated mesh that is exactly what BestFriends
> uses in their outdoor 
> rooms. It's VERY strong & does not cut down on light
> as does most of the 
> regular, weaker, tearable mesh screen.
> 
> Inside there are shelves at staggered heights for
> sunning & romping.  I 
> scrounded a tall thick tree branch & a really
> crookedy one that are 
> propped in one corner for climbing & scratching. 
> The roof is that 
> coorrugated plastic. I keep one or two litter boxes
> out there.
> 
> The cats have access to the catiary from a cat door
> from the screened 
> porch & access to the screened porch from a cat door
> into the kitchen. 
> Works great. In cold weather they can go out there
> without letting the 
> cold into the house.
> 
> I looked at enclosures on the web & found that
> utterly boring. I think 
> the best ones are the ones that the people design
> themselves. Y ou 
> .should be able to get a handyman to build it. The
> man who built mine 
> along with the deck got a huge kick out of it. Said
> he'd never had a 
> "cat room" on his resume before!
> 
> Pam
> 
> Jane Lyons wrote:
> > I'm sorry to be constantly asking questions,
> > but hopefully we can get the newness of this
> diagnosis
> > and all the issues it raises on the right path ...
> > Can anyone recommend an outdoor enclosure for cats
> > that works well. Again, I Googled the category and
> there
> > are hundreds of choices. I was hoping someone
> might have
> > experience with a design or quality that works.
> > I suspect that MeMe was at one time in her young
> life on
> > her own because she can climb trees better than
> squirrels and
> > seems to know her way around the terrain. I need
> an enclosure that
> > will allow her some measure of freedom and
> activity.
> >
> > I appreciate any information or leads someone
> might have.
> > Jane
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> 
> 


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Re: outdoor enclosures

[Pam Norman]

I have what I call a "catiary" cause it looks like an aviary. It was 
built at the same time as my deck so it could be incorporated into the 
plan. It's between a wing of the deck & the house & goes from ground 
level to roof level of single story house.  The floor is concrete for 
cleaning - a lockable screen door goes to the yard & the "walls" are 4" 
PVC coated mesh that is exactly what BestFriends uses in their outdoor 
rooms. It's VERY strong & does not cut down on light as does most of the 
regular, weaker, tearable mesh screen.


Inside there are shelves at staggered heights for sunning & romping.  I 
scrounded a tall thick tree branch & a really crookedy one that are 
propped in one corner for climbing & scratching.  The roof is that 
coorrugated plastic. I keep one or two litter boxes out there.


The cats have access to the catiary from a cat door from the screened 
porch & access to the screened porch from a cat door into the kitchen. 
Works great. In cold weather they can go out there without letting the 
cold into the house.


I looked at enclosures on the web & found that utterly boring. I think 
the best ones are the ones that the people design themselves. Y ou 
.should be able to get a handyman to build it. The man who built mine 
along with the deck got a huge kick out of it. Said he'd never had a 
"cat room" on his resume before!


Pam

Jane Lyons wrote:

I'm sorry to be constantly asking questions,
but hopefully we can get the newness of this diagnosis
and all the issues it raises on the right path ...
Can anyone recommend an outdoor enclosure for cats
that works well. Again, I Googled the category and there
are hundreds of choices. I was hoping someone might have
experience with a design or quality that works.
I suspect that MeMe was at one time in her young life on
her own because she can climb trees better than squirrels and
seems to know her way around the terrain. I need an enclosure that
will allow her some measure of freedom and activity.

I appreciate any information or leads someone might have.
Jane

Re: Sally

[Pam Norman]

Ok this is good to know.  Now we know who to ask with our flower 
question. Wish  you could see my place. I planted a bunch of things from 
Breck's but was dumb enough not to label them. Now they're coming up & I 
have no clue as to what they are!


Pam

Sally Davis wrote:

Hi Pam,
 
I am in VA. Daylilies are not in the LILY family. They are not toxic 
to cats in spite of what the ASPCA has on there website. It is based 
on an assumption that they are *lilies. *My front yard is entirely 
daylilies, no grass. Funny thing is my cats get very few fleas now. 
When they do I use Advantage. Fleas live in grassy yards.
 
I am a horticulturist by trade and education. So I give that as my 
qualification regarding daylily (hemerocallis) classification.
 
We are getting remnants of TS Barry.
 
Thanks for your concern.
 
Sally


 
On 6/3/07, *Pam Norman* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> wrote:


Sally, where are you?  It's been raining here too & hasn't for
awhile. I
know, too much coincidence for you to be here too but you never know.
I'm in south central WI.

And remember day lilies are very toxic to cats.

Pam

Sally Davis wrote:
> Nina
>
> Thanks for the inspiring story. My old computer had major problems
> least which which was the sound did not work in spite of a sound
card
> and speakers. I am trying to transfer my old files and setting
to this
> computer but the room is still to hot for the old one to run. So I
> have windows opened three fans running to bring the cool air from
> outside inside. It is raining and much needed rain for my flowers.
> Next to my precious cats I collect daylilies, Japanese Maples, and
> other plants.
>
> Well I really don't collect cats. I just love them. I have had a cat
> since I was a child and I remember all of them. At least  when my
> middle age memory allows me to...lol
>
> Sally
>
>
>
>
>
> On 6/3/07, *Nina* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 >>
> wrote:
>
> Here's a video that had me in happy tears, something I know we
> could all
> use:
>
>
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5249518974978628334&pr=goog-sl


>
>
>

> <
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5249518974978628334&pr=goog-sl
>>
>
>
>

wetting the bed/sofa (was Kisa)

[catatonya]

They sell waterproof mattress covers at Walmart that I use.  They are only 
around $20.  Fabric is quilted onto the vinyl, so it's better than just one of 
those slippery vinyl things.  I use a slippery vinyl thing with a quilted vinyl 
mattress cover on top of that on my bed.  I have more than one. so if 
there's an accident in the middle of the night I can just strip the bed and 
still have a clean one to put on.  I also use these mattress covers on my sofas 
(again on top of one of the plain vinyl ones just in case there's a leak)  I 
cover the vinyl mattress cover and the quilted waterproof one with old sheets.  
I wash the sheets daily (for hair control) and wash the cloth mattress covers 
if and when someone urinates on the sofa(s).  It's a lot of washing/work, but 
it saves the mattresses and furniture..
   
  tonya

Marylyn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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  When the Royal Princess Kitty Katt was having problems a "friend" 
commented that I was "throwing good money after bad."  I've never cared for her 
sinceand it is MY money.  
   
  This is to say, please listen to your heart ant to Kisa.  Check with an AC to 
see what she thinks and wants.
   
  Re:  peeing in the bed.   There are large pads that are used under patients 
in nursing homes and hospitals.  They can be disposable or washable.  Get some. 
 They will protect the bed and absorb the urine and be very difficult to miss.  
You may have to lay on part of it but, from experience with a large dog, they 
work great.   
   
   
   
   
   
   
   If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
- Original Message - 
  From: Melissa Lind 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 4:26 PM
  Subject: RE: Update on Kisa
  

Cassandra:
   
  Best of luck with Kisa. I know that can be so discouraging when being told to 
put the kitty down or that it’s not worth the money. It seems to me that we’d 
do whatever we could for humans, why not for our feline family members?
   
  Melissa
   
  
-
  
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C & J
Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 2:14 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Update on Kisa

   
The thing is with the vomiting though, I don't think its just because i'm 
feeding her.  For the last week, she's been vomiting consistently before I ever 
feed her.  When the vomiting first started suddenly, she vomited several times 
a day with a completely empty stomach for about 3 days.  We then started 
syringe feeding her, and as soon as we brought her out from her hiding spot, 
she would vomitthen we would syringe her the food.

 

So yesterday, she vomited after syringing her the food, so I probably gave 
too much to start.

 

I took her to the vet today, to get the tube put back in, and she got a 
shot of metachlopramide.  Now the problem is, they didn't give me any more of 
the metachlopramide because they said its a drug filtered by the liver, and if 
her liver isn't functioning properly, too much of that will cause a problem.  
They just said to feed her about 12cc followed by 4cc water3 times a 
day.to see if she would keep that down.

 

I mentioned that I didn't know how i'd be able to get enough calories into 
her with that small amount, but they just said to see how it goes.

 

What a pain in the butt, because i'm fairly certain that even if I feed her 
such a tiny amount, i'm betting she's still going to vomit here at some 
point...possibly vomiting out that tube again.

 

If she vomits again today, i'll have to get more of the metachlopramide 
even if its going to cause a problem with her liver.

 

This seems to be a no win situation here.  Plus, she's definately not 
feeling very well.  All she wants to do is hide, and then lay in one spot all 
day.  I wouldn't doubt it if she's depressed  after all this.  I notice her 
breathing seems fast also.

 

I took her to bed with me last night, because she seems to enjoy that, and 
she did purr for awhile.  The problem was, she was peeing about every 3 hours 
(probably from being on the IV for 2 days), and she was doing it in bed.  I put 
plastic and towels under her, but she missed them once and I had to rip the bed 
apart in the middle of the night before it soaked too deep.  She is too 
lethargi

Re: outdoor enclosures

[dede hicken]

Jane, please email me off line, and maybe we can
exchange #'s.  We are building another enclosure again
since this move.  We have gotten pretty good at it,
and can help you do it yourself, or direct a fence man
on how to help you.

Dede
--- Jane Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I'm sorry to be constantly asking questions,
> but hopefully we can get the newness of this
> diagnosis
> and all the issues it raises on the right path ...
> Can anyone recommend an outdoor enclosure for cats
> that works well. Again, I Googled the category and
> there
> are hundreds of choices. I was hoping someone might
> have
> experience with a design or quality that works.
> I suspect that MeMe was at one time in her young
> life on
> her own because she can climb trees better than
> squirrels and
> seems to know her way around the terrain. I need an
> enclosure that
> will allow her some measure of freedom and activity.
> 
> I appreciate any information or leads someone might
> have.
> Jane
> 
> 
> 


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Re: outdoor enclosures

[TatorBunz]

 
 
Belinda has a great set-up for her kitties.
I'm sure she will say something about this.
If I had the money I go this route. 
I have 3 acres to play with. Promise my husband I wouldn't get  carried away.
Would only like to use about half an acre devoted for my  personal cats.
 
In a message dated 6/3/2007 8:49:43 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,  
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

I'm  sorry to be constantly asking questions,
but hopefully we can get the  newness of this diagnosis
and all the issues it raises on the right path  ...
Can anyone recommend an outdoor enclosure for cats
that works well.  Again, I Googled the category and there
are hundreds of choices. I was  hoping someone might have
experience with a design or quality that  works.
I suspect that MeMe was at one time in her young life on
her own  because she can climb trees better than squirrels and
seems to know her way  around the terrain. I need an enclosure that
will allow her some measure of  freedom and activity.

I appreciate any information or leads someone  might have.
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Re: Sally

[elizabeth trent]

That's good info, Sally -- thanks!
elizabeth


On 6/3/07, Sally Davis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi Pam,

I am in VA. Daylilies are not in the LILY family. They are not toxic to
cats in spite of what the ASPCA has on there website. It is based on an
assumption that they are *lilies. *My front yard is entirely daylilies, no
grass. Funny thing is my cats get very few fleas now. When they do I use
Advantage. Fleas live in grassy yards.

I am a horticulturist by trade and education. So I give that as my
qualification regarding daylily (hemerocallis) classification.

We are getting remnants of TS Barry.

Thanks for your concern.

Sally


 On 6/3/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Sally, where are you?  It's been raining here too & hasn't for awhile. I
> know, too much coincidence for you to be here too but you never know.
> I'm in south central WI.
>
> And remember day lilies are very toxic to cats.
>
> Pam
>
> Sally Davis wrote:
> > Nina
> >
> > Thanks for the inspiring story. My old computer had major problems
> > least which which was the sound did not work in spite of a sound card
> > and speakers. I am trying to transfer my old files and setting to this
> > computer but the room is still to hot for the old one to run. So I
> > have windows opened three fans running to bring the cool air from
> > outside inside. It is raining and much needed rain for my flowers.
> > Next to my precious cats I collect daylilies, Japanese Maples, and
> > other plants.
> >
> > Well I really don't collect cats. I just love them. I have had a cat
> > since I was a child and I remember all of them. At least  when my
> > middle age memory allows me to...lol
> >
> > Sally
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 6/3/07, *Nina* <[EMAIL PROTECTED]  >>
> > wrote:
> >
> > Here's a video that had me in happy tears, something I know we
> > could all
> > use:
> >
> >
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5249518974978628334&pr=goog-sl
> >  >
> > <
> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5249518974978628334&pr=goog-sl
> >  >>
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

Re: Skidboot video

[elizabeth trent]

That is wonderful, Nina.  Thank you.

elizabeth


On 6/3/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Here's a video that had me in happy tears, something I know we could all
use:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5249518974978628334&pr=goog-sl

Re: outdoor enclosures

[Kelly L]

At 08:41 AM 6/3/2007, you wrote:



If you are interested you can see the one I had built ,,,it is on 
some of the pictures at my sight.
It is large built have a large amount of cats, but I had a smaller 
one like this when  I lived in town.

www.kellyscats.zoomshare.com
I hired fence people to do it the way I wanted it. In retrospect I 
could have used other wire for the top as chain link is heavy.
Also the standard size chain link is not suitable for kittens and 
would need something smaller.

Kelly




I'm sorry to be constantly asking questions,
but hopefully we can get the newness of this diagnosis
and all the issues it raises on the right path ...
Can anyone recommend an outdoor enclosure for cats
that works well. Again, I Googled the category and there
are hundreds of choices. I was hoping someone might have
experience with a design or quality that works.
I suspect that MeMe was at one time in her young life on
her own because she can climb trees better than squirrels and
seems to know her way around the terrain. I need an enclosure that
will allow her some measure of freedom and activity.

I appreciate any information or leads someone might have.
Jane




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outdoor enclosures

[Jane Lyons]

I'm sorry to be constantly asking questions,
but hopefully we can get the newness of this diagnosis
and all the issues it raises on the right path ...
Can anyone recommend an outdoor enclosure for cats
that works well. Again, I Googled the category and there
are hundreds of choices. I was hoping someone might have
experience with a design or quality that works.
I suspect that MeMe was at one time in her young life on
her own because she can climb trees better than squirrels and
seems to know her way around the terrain. I need an enclosure that
will allow her some measure of freedom and activity.

I appreciate any information or leads someone might have.
Jane

Re: Sally

[Sally Davis]

Hi Pam,

I am in VA. Daylilies are not in the LILY family. They are not toxic to cats
in spite of what the ASPCA has on there website. It is based on an
assumption that they are *lilies. *My front yard is entirely daylilies, no
grass. Funny thing is my cats get very few fleas now. When they do I use
Advantage. Fleas live in grassy yards.

I am a horticulturist by trade and education. So I give that as my
qualification regarding daylily (hemerocallis) classification.

We are getting remnants of TS Barry.

Thanks for your concern.

Sally


On 6/3/07, Pam Norman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Sally, where are you?  It's been raining here too & hasn't for awhile. I
know, too much coincidence for you to be here too but you never know.
I'm in south central WI.

And remember day lilies are very toxic to cats.

Pam

Sally Davis wrote:
> Nina
>
> Thanks for the inspiring story. My old computer had major problems
> least which which was the sound did not work in spite of a sound card
> and speakers. I am trying to transfer my old files and setting to this
> computer but the room is still to hot for the old one to run. So I
> have windows opened three fans running to bring the cool air from
> outside inside. It is raining and much needed rain for my flowers.
> Next to my precious cats I collect daylilies, Japanese Maples, and
> other plants.
>
> Well I really don't collect cats. I just love them. I have had a cat
> since I was a child and I remember all of them. At least  when my
> middle age memory allows me to...lol
>
> Sally
>
>
>
>
>
> On 6/3/07, *Nina* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >
> wrote:
>
> Here's a video that had me in happy tears, something I know we
> could all
> use:
>
>
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5249518974978628334&pr=goog-sl
> <
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5249518974978628334&pr=goog-sl>
> <
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5249518974978628334&pr=goog-sl
> <
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5249518974978628334&pr=goog-sl>>
>
>
>

Sally

[Pam Norman]

Sally, where are you?  It's been raining here too & hasn't for awhile. I 
know, too much coincidence for you to be here too but you never know. 
I'm in south central WI.


And remember day lilies are very toxic to cats.

Pam

Sally Davis wrote:

Nina
 
Thanks for the inspiring story. My old computer had major problems 
least which which was the sound did not work in spite of a sound card 
and speakers. I am trying to transfer my old files and setting to this 
computer but the room is still to hot for the old one to run. So I 
have windows opened three fans running to bring the cool air from 
outside inside. It is raining and much needed rain for my flowers. 
Next to my precious cats I collect daylilies, Japanese Maples, and 
other plants.
 
Well I really don't collect cats. I just love them. I have had a cat 
since I was a child and I remember all of them. At least  when my 
middle age memory allows me to...lol
 
Sally
 
 



 
On 6/3/07, *Nina* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] > 
wrote:


Here's a video that had me in happy tears, something I know we
could all
use:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5249518974978628334&pr=goog-sl

>

Re: Skidboot video

[Sally Davis]

Nina

Thanks for the inspiring story. My old computer had major problems least
which which was the sound did not work in spite of a sound card and
speakers. I am trying to transfer my old files and setting to this computer
but the room is still to hot for the old one to run. So I have windows
opened three fans running to bring the cool air from outside inside. It is
raining and much needed rain for my flowers. Next to my precious cats I
collect daylilies, Japanese Maples, and other plants.

Well I really don't collect cats. I just love them. I have had a cat since I
was a child and I remember all of them. At least  when my middle age memory
allows me to...lol

Sally





On 6/3/07, Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Here's a video that had me in happy tears, something I know we could all
use:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5249518974978628334&pr=goog-sl

Re: depressing!!.

[elizabeth trent]

I only spend that much for a cat at the vet's ;-)
elizabeth


On 6/2/07, Susan Hoffman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Looks like a really big tabby to me.Hmmm, so if I can get a tabby up
to 30 pounds, I can call it an Ashera mix and ask a really big adoption
fee

Who spends $22K on a cat?  Crazy.

*Kelly L <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>* wrote:




http://www.lifestylepets.com/index.html


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Re: Skidboot video

[Sherry DeHaan]

Nina,that was a very sweet and heartwarming video.Thank you for sharing with 
us. :)
  Sherry

Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Here's a video that had me in happy tears, something I know we could all 
use:

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5249518974978628334&pr=goog-sl 





   
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Re: Skidboot video

[dede hicken]

Thanks, Nina.  What a beautiful story. It makes you
relize how special God's creatures are.  People think
they are "just animals" but they are so much more.  I
think of Kisa and how hard she is trying to live, and
the people helping her...

It is just special.  I think animals realize more
about life than most people do. Duke agrees with me. 
He keeps nipping my arm!

Enough philosophising!  I hope all have a blessed day!
Dede
--- Nina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Here's a video that had me in happy tears, something
> I know we could all  use:
> 
>
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5249518974978628334&pr=goog-sl
> 
>

> 
> 
> 


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Skidboot video

[Nina]

Here's a video that had me in happy tears, something I know we could all 
use:


http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5249518974978628334&pr=goog-sl 

Re: Please add Scamper to the CLS list

[catatonya]

I'm sorry for your loss of Scamper. 
   
  tonya

"[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
  Please add our cat Scamper of 18 years to the CLS list. He lost his 
fight with cancer and CRF, he died in my arms. He will go to the rainbow 
bridge to reunite with his sibling Eli who passed last year of 
complications form FIV. His memory will be kept alive, so in part he 
will be be still alive.

He will be cremated, and then when my wife passes his ashes will join hers.

He was the kitten that did not stay down stairs in the box we made for 
him. He jumped/climbed up the stairs to our bedroom, jump/climbed up the 
comforter on our water bed to sleep with us.

Whitey Elric Bone, Regis, Luceria, Geo, Saiko, Stumpy, Marely, Eli, 
Cuddles, Butch, Romeo, Dartanion, Satan, Ni**er, Sasquash, Little Tux, 
Big Tux, and the too many others, help him at that place of rest, help 
him to enjoy being healthy and young again.

Sam and Marcia

Re: Hideyo got her missing cat Maddie!

[Gina WN]

Great news Hideyo!
   
  Gina


 
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