I will miss you
Nina Hopefully you are still reading this. I have had so much going on like everyone. Spent all day at the emergency room Friday and nothing was done for my bf(husband). Thank goodness Junior is stable. The only indication of his illness is the hematoma of his ears. I will post a picture someday. You are one of the reasons I am still on the list. I understand people are passionate about their causes. When one is suffering sometimes you don't need the added guilt of you should have done this etc. You always kept me focused on the positive as well and many others in the groups. Again I thanks you all all the wonderful members of the group. Sincerely, Sally
RE: Kisa is gone, thank you all
Cassandra, You're not being punished for something! Are you Catholic? :-) I am, and I often have these feelings of guilt or punishment-sometimes we just can't see through the bleakness and the sadness, and we try to rationalize in any way possible. There is no way that God or the Universe or Karma or whatever you may believe in is punishing you. I firmly believe that because we love so much, we will inevitably hurt more than other people who don't love animals. There's the old saying that God only gives us what we can handle, and I used to tell myself that when I lost my son. I'm not sure I believe it or not, but I want to. It's not that we are being punished, but we are people who can handle it. We have to for these kitties since no one will. We will suffer in the process, but we know that the time we did spend with these babies is still worth all our grief. We can handle it because we're strong people who stand up for our fellow creatures who are innocent, neglected, and abused. I guess I think of it as a yin/yang type thing-or a balance if you will. Our grief is directly proportional to our capacity to love-so clearly, you and everyone on this list are very loving people. Although the sadness can be overwhelming, it is the result of a greater love and compassion for others-it comes from your heart. It's not punishment that all this is happening at once, but I understand how you can feel that way. Another old saying: When it rains, it pours. For me this seems to be the case! But, you'll get through it! Keep your head up and realize how special you, your husband, and those around you are since what you do is a phenomenal gift to our world. Best, Melissa _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C J Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 10:34 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Kisa is gone, thank you all I just want to thank you all for your many kind words and thoughts regarding Kisa, Koda, and Tomi. This is one of the few places where I feel comfortable sharing how strongly I feel about my babies and how deeply saddened I am by their illnesses. My husband is about the only other person who understands how much our kitties mean to both him and I. Most other people I know don't understand the deep bond one can have with an animal. All your replies have meant much to me, and made me feel better. It is amazing that you have never met my babies or I, and yet can offer so many words of reassurance. I am missing Kisa terribly, as she was so much fun to have around. She was the social one, who interacted with my other cats, grooming and playing. Now I have three kitties left who have nothing at all to do with each other. I think they all miss her. Sadly, I am not having much time to grieve for Kisa, because I believe Tomi is getting sick again. The last few days, he seems to be getting more anemic again, and he vomited tonight. After he vomited, he was panting for a few seconds. I'm also worried that he hasn't grown back the hair on his neck that was shaved 3 months ago for his blood test. It still looks like it did a week after it was shaved. I'm thinking of bringing him into the vet again, even though they wanted to put him to sleep 2 months ago. I was wondering if his hemobartonella may be coming back, and that should be simple enough for them to test for. I am so scared to have to go through this again so soon, and afraid Tomi won't be able to pull off a miracle a second time. I almost feel like we are being punished for something, the way this nightmare seems to be unfolding. Cassandra - Original Message - From: C mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] J To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:50 PM Subject: Kisa is gone :( Kisa passed away this morning while I was at work, exactly one month after Koda. My heart is broken, especially since I wasn't there with her at the end. I had prayed and hoped so much that she would continue to improve after she started eating again a week and a half ago. I suppose it was just too much for her to overcome. The anemia never really did improve much. Though her breathing was better, her skin was so pale. The last few days, her appetite faltered again, and she was getting weaker. I didn't think today would be the day she died, though i'm relieved she didn't have to go on suffering much longer. I don't think she was in pain, and I sincerely hope she wasn't in pain at the end. It was just so hard to see her so weak when she was as active and happy as a kitten 3 weeks ago. Kisa is going to be missed more than words can say. She never quite saw her 3rd birthday, but the time she spent with us will never be forgotten. She was special in so many ways, I wouldn't even know where to start to list them all. Fearless, loving, gentle, playful, curious, and sweet are just a few of the words that describe her. She's been sleeping on my pillow
OT: frustrated
I know this is off topic, but I just had to jot this down at work since it's consuming my thoughts. A lady that I work with has farm cats. Sadly, mama kitty and baby climbed into the car trunk when open, and they didn't see them when they closed it. It's been really hot and the two spent an entire day in the trunk. Mama kitty didn't make it, but amazingly the baby did. But now my co-worker (more annoyed by the smell than anything) isn't sure what to do with the baby. She tried to feed it, I think, but she doesn't know about kitty milk or anything like that. And she actually sounds as if she'd rather just let it die. How horrifying. I've been close to tears all day after she told me so regularly as if it were nothing more than a nuisance. I really want to go take this baby and help it, but 1) I'm new here-it's overstepping some boundaries, 2) the baby might not have made it through today anyway without food, and 3) I have 3 of my own cats, 2 fosters, and a husband who loves cats but is getting a little frustrated that I haven't found homes for the foster cats yet. I know what the right thing to do is, but I'm conflicted. More than anything I'm angry at this lady (or saddened) by her lack of enthusiasm to help the poor baby. I can't stop thinking about this little kitty. Right now I'm generally disgusted with people.
Re: frustrated
My nephew got me a bumper sticker for Christmas The more people I meet the more I like my cat. If the situation is still on-going tomorrow you could offer, ever so sweetly, to relieve the lady of her problem, explaining how you know it is a burden, etc. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Melissa Lind To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 4:42 PM Subject: OT: frustrated I know this is off topic, but I just had to jot this down at work since it's consuming my thoughts. A lady that I work with has farm cats. Sadly, mama kitty and baby climbed into the car trunk when open, and they didn't see them when they closed it. It's been really hot and the two spent an entire day in the trunk. Mama kitty didn't make it, but amazingly the baby did. But now my co-worker (more annoyed by the smell than anything) isn't sure what to do with the baby. She tried to feed it, I think, but she doesn't know about kitty milk or anything like that. And she actually sounds as if she'd rather just let it die. How horrifying. I've been close to tears all day after she told me so regularly as if it were nothing more than a nuisance. I really want to go take this baby and help it, but 1) I'm new here-it's overstepping some boundaries, 2) the baby might not have made it through today anyway without food, and 3) I have 3 of my own cats, 2 fosters, and a husband who loves cats but is getting a little frustrated that I haven't found homes for the foster cats yet. I know what the right thing to do is, but I'm conflicted. More than anything I'm angry at this lady (or saddened) by her lack of enthusiasm to help the poor baby. I can't stop thinking about this little kitty. Right now I'm generally disgusted with people.
Re: OT: frustrated
I would have to take the kitten. Just offer to take it she will proably jump at the chance to get rid of it. Where are you? I am in Pennsylvania and would take the kitten if you are close. This poor baby watched it's mother die in that trunk and is still here. Apparently this baby wants to live. Please help it!!! If you are not close to me I would think that someone out there would be able to help. Debi H. Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this is off topic, but I just had to jot this down at work since its consuming my thoughts. A lady that I work with has farm cats. Sadly, mama kitty and baby climbed into the car trunk when open, and they didnt see them when they closed it. Its been really hot and the two spent an entire day in the trunk. Mama kitty didnt make it, but amazingly the baby did. But now my co-worker (more annoyed by the smell than anything) isnt sure what to do with the baby. She tried to feed it, I think, but she doesnt know about kitty milk or anything like that. And she actually sounds as if shed rather just let it die. How horrifying. Ive been close to tears all day after she told me so regularly as if it were nothing more than a nuisance. I really want to go take this baby and help it, but 1) Im new hereits overstepping some boundaries, 2) the baby might not have made it through today anyway without food, and 3) I have 3 of my own cats, 2 fosters, and a husband who loves cats but is getting a little frustrated that I havent found homes for the foster cats yet. I know what the right thing to do is, but Im conflicted. More than anything Im angry at this lady (or saddened) by her lack of enthusiasm to help the poor baby. I cant stop thinking about this little kitty. Right now Im generally disgusted with people. - Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing.
Re: OT: frustrated
that's very sweet of you, Debi. I have no idea where Melissa lives - I live in NM and would take the kitten if Melissa lives close or we can somehow arrange for the transpotation. - Original Message - From: Debi Holmesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 4:03 PM Subject: Re: OT: frustrated I would have to take the kitten. Just offer to take it she will proably jump at the chance to get rid of it. Where are you? I am in Pennsylvania and would take the kitten if you are close. This poor baby watched it's mother die in that trunk and is still here. Apparently this baby wants to live. Please help it!!! If you are not close to me I would think that someone out there would be able to help. Debi H. Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know this is off topic, but I just had to jot this down at work since it's consuming my thoughts. A lady that I work with has farm cats. Sadly, mama kitty and baby climbed into the car trunk when open, and they didn't see them when they closed it. It's been really hot and the two spent an entire day in the trunk. Mama kitty didn't make it, but amazingly the baby did. But now my co-worker (more annoyed by the smell than anything) isn't sure what to do with the baby. She tried to feed it, I think, but she doesn't know about kitty milk or anything like that. And she actually sounds as if she'd rather just let it die. How horrifying. I've been close to tears all day after she told me so regularly as if it were nothing more than a nuisance. I really want to go take this baby and help it, but 1) I'm new here-it's overstepping some boundaries, 2) the baby might not have made it through today anyway without food, and 3) I have 3 of my own cats, 2 fosters, and a husband who loves cats but is getting a little frustrated that I haven't found homes for the foster cats yet. I know what the right thing to do is, but I'm conflicted. More than anything I'm angry at this lady (or saddened) by her lack of enthusiasm to help the poor baby. I can't stop thinking about this little kitty. Right now I'm generally disgusted with people. -- Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email http://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48225/*http://new.toolbar.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/index.phpwherever you're surfing.
Re: frustrated
Hi Melissa, This is one of many reasons I don't have a husband! Ha! I'm sorry you are frustrated. I am frustrated too. I sat at my desk and cried and cried today over a cat I couldn't help. Are you sure it is overstepping boundaries? It is a hard decision to make, I know. You can't control other people's actions, and you can't make her care if she doesn't. Would it be overstepping boundaries to offer to help her get the remaining cats (I am SURE there are more) altered? You could couch it in terms of helping her with the nuisance of kittens. Dear Melissa, I am so very sorry to hear about what happened to the mama kitty, it's such a tragic and makes me very sad. Melissa, I hope you will do what your heart tells you to do.. regardless of all the concerns, the baby needs someone who really cares about her as she just lost her mommy. I hope you can go pick her up as you care enough to think about the baby. Obviously, your co worker does not want the baby, so you might be doing her a favor if you ask her to take her from her... you can always find her a good home if you cannot take care of herself.. this baby is lucky and strong enough to live through this tragedy..she definitely deserves a second chance by someone like you.. I will be praying for the baby.. Hideyo - Original Message - From: Melissa Lind To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 3:42 PM Subject: OT: frustrated I know this is off topic, but I just had to jot this down at work since it's consuming my thoughts. A lady that I work with has farm cats. Sadly, mama kitty and baby climbed into the car trunk when open, and they didn't see them when they closed it. It's been really hot and the two spent an entire day in the trunk. Mama kitty didn't make it, but amazingly the baby did. But now my co-worker (more annoyed by the smell than anything) isn't sure what to do with the baby. She tried to feed it, I think, but she doesn't know about kitty milk or anything like that. And she actually sounds as if she'd rather just let it die. How horrifying. I've been close to tears all day after she told me so regularly as if it were nothing more than a nuisance. I really want to go take this baby and help it, but 1) I'm new here—it's overstepping some boundaries, 2) the baby might not have made it through today anyway without food, and 3) I have 3 of my own cats, 2 fosters, and a husband who loves cats but is getting a little frustrated that I haven't found homes for the foster cats yet. I know what the right thing to do is, but I'm conflicted. More than anything I'm angry at this lady (or saddened) by her lack of enthusiasm to help the poor baby. I can't stop thinking about this little kitty. Right now I'm generally disgusted with people. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Caroline! http://rescuties.chipin.com/caroline I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
Please help - miscarriage
Hi, one of my rescued kitties just have had miscarriage -- the vet told me to take her to the emergency if she has fever ---she has 104 fever, but she seems alert.. and I don't want to stress her by taking her to the emergency as I don't know what they can do for her anyway... if you have any experience, please let me know -- she is not bleeding anymore or does not have odor.. it's hot and breathing a bit fast.. Hideyo
Re: OT: frustrated
Thank you, but this kitten has been through so much and really needs to get away from this thing called a human being. People really do disgust me more and more everyday. Hopefully she will be able to get this kitten and then we can work out finding someone who would be willing to take it if we are too far away. Debi HIDEYO YAMAMOTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: that's very sweet of you, Debi. I have no idea where Melissa lives - I live in NM and would take the kitten if Melissa lives close or we can somehow arrange for the transpotation. - Original Message - From: Debi Holmes To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 4:03 PM Subject: Re: OT: frustrated I would have to take the kitten. Just offer to take it she will proably jump at the chance to get rid of it. Where are you? I am in Pennsylvania and would take the kitten if you are close. This poor baby watched it's mother die in that trunk and is still here. Apparently this baby wants to live. Please help it!!! If you are not close to me I would think that someone out there would be able to help. Debi H. Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: @page Section1 {size: 8.5in 11.0in; margin: 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in 1.0in; } P.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman } LI.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman } DIV.MsoNormal { FONT-SIZE: 12pt; MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: Times New Roman } A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } A:visited { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline } SPAN.EmailStyle17 { COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-style-type: personal-compose } DIV.Section1 { page: Section1 }I know this is off topic, but I just had to jot this down at work since it's consuming my thoughts. A lady that I work with has farm cats. Sadly, mama kitty and baby climbed into the car trunk when open, and they didn't see them when they closed it. It's been really hot and the two spent an entire day in the trunk. Mama kitty didn't make it, but amazingly the baby did. But now my co-worker (more annoyed by the smell than anything) isn't sure what to do with the baby. She tried to feed it, I think, but she doesn't know about kitty milk or anything like that. And she actually sounds as if she'd rather just let it die. How horrifying. I've been close to tears all day after she told me so regularly as if it were nothing more than a nuisance. I really want to go take this baby and help it, but 1) I'm new here-it's overstepping some boundaries, 2) the baby might not have made it through today anyway without food, and 3) I have 3 of my own cats, 2 fosters, and a husband who loves cats but is getting a little frustrated that I haven't found homes for the foster cats yet. I know what the right thing to do is, but I'm conflicted. More than anything I'm angry at this lady (or saddened) by her lack of enthusiasm to help the poor baby. I can't stop thinking about this little kitty. Right now I'm generally disgusted with people. - Get the Yahoo! toolbar and be alerted to new email wherever you're surfing. - Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out.
Re: Please help - miscarriage
At 05:30 PM 6/18/2007, you wrote: It is an emergency as she could still have the placenta or another kiten there. the can give her oxytocin to increase contraction and expell what is still inside her. He may have a dead kitten in her and become infected rapidly Please goHideyo kelly Hi, one of my rescued kitties just have had miscarriage -- the vet told me to take her to the emergency if she has fever ---she has 104 fever, but she seems alert.. and I don't want to stress her by taking her to the emergency as I don't know what they can do for her anyway... if you have any experience, please let me know -- she is not bleeding anymore or does not have odor.. it's hot and breathing a bit fast.. Hideyo No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.0/852 - Release Date: 6/17/2007 8:23 AM
Re: Please help - miscarriage
yeah, from what i know, hideyo, unless you are REALLY sure there's nothing left inside, you could really be risking her health as those are nasty, fast-moving infections. i understand not wanting to stress her, but whatever caused the miscarriage in the first place has probably weakened her already, and she's not gonna be able to fight off a massive infection if it sets in. GLOW for her On 6/18/07, Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 05:30 PM 6/18/2007, you wrote: It is an emergency as she could still have the placenta or another kiten there. the can give her oxytocin to increase contraction and expell what is still inside her. He may have a dead kitten in her and become infected rapidly Please goHideyo kelly Hi, one of my rescued kitties just have had miscarriage -- the vet told me to take her to the emergency if she has fever ---she has 104 fever, but she seems alert.. and I don't want to stress her by taking her to the emergency as I don't know what they can do for her anyway... if you have any experience, please let me know -- she is not bleeding anymore or does not have odor.. it's hot and breathing a bit fast.. Hideyo No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.472 / Virus Database: 269.9.0/852 - Release Date: 6/17/2007 8:23 AM -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Victor Please add to the CLS :(
Sweet Victor a cat with the most beautiful green eyes lost his battle to felv today.He was living with Camden,the same guy that recently lost Laurel.THis is his 3rd one he lost to this aweful disease.He has such a big heart for adopting the feleuks.I really though Victor was going to make it much longer.Thank you all for your support. Sherry and her 5 beautiful fur kids - Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out.
Re: Victor Please add to the CLS :(
Sherry, I am so sorry -sleep soft sweet Victor - Gloria On Jun 18, 2007, at 8:25 PM, Sherry DeHaan wrote: Sweet Victor a cat with the most beautiful green eyes lost his battle to felv today.He was living with Camden,the same guy that recently lost Laurel.THis is his 3rd one he lost to this aweful disease.He has such a big heart for adopting the feleuks.I really though Victor was going to make it much longer.Thank you all for your support. Sherry and her 5 beautiful fur kids Never miss an email again! Yahoo! Toolbar alerts you the instant new Mail arrives. Check it out.