I will miss you

2007-06-18 Thread Sally Davis

Nina

Hopefully you are still reading this. I have had so much going on like
everyone. Spent all day at the emergency room Friday and nothing was done
for my bf(husband). Thank goodness Junior is stable. The only indication of
his illness is the hematoma of his ears. I will post a picture someday.

You are one of the reasons I am still on the list. I understand people are
passionate about their causes. When one is suffering sometimes you don't
need the added guilt of you should have done this etc. You always kept me
focused on the positive as well and many others in the groups. Again I
thanks you all all the wonderful members of the group.

Sincerely,

Sally


RE: Kisa is gone, thank you all

2007-06-18 Thread Melissa Lind
Cassandra,

 

You're not being punished for something! Are you Catholic? :-) I am, and I
often have these feelings of guilt or punishment-sometimes we just can't see
through the bleakness and the sadness, and we try to rationalize in any way
possible. There is no way that God or the Universe or Karma or whatever you
may believe in is punishing you. I firmly believe that because we love so
much, we will inevitably hurt more than other people who don't love animals.
There's the old saying that God only gives us what we can handle, and I
used to tell myself that when I lost my son. I'm not sure I believe it or
not, but I want to. It's not that we are being punished, but we are people
who can handle it. We have to for these kitties since no one will. We will
suffer in the process, but we know that the time we did spend with these
babies is still worth all our grief. We can handle it because we're strong
people who stand up for our fellow creatures who are innocent, neglected,
and abused.

 

I guess I think of it as a yin/yang type thing-or a balance if you will. Our
grief is directly proportional to our capacity to love-so clearly, you and
everyone on this list are very loving people. Although the sadness can be
overwhelming, it is the result of a greater love and compassion for
others-it comes from your heart. It's not punishment that all this is
happening at once, but I understand how you can feel that way. Another old
saying: When it rains, it pours. For me this seems to be the case! But,
you'll get through it! Keep your head up and realize how special you, your
husband, and those around you are since what you do is a phenomenal gift to
our world.

 

Best,

Melissa

  _  

From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of C  J
Sent: Friday, June 15, 2007 10:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: Kisa is gone, thank you all

 

I just want to thank you all for your many kind words and thoughts regarding
Kisa, Koda, and Tomi.

 

This is one of the few places where I feel comfortable sharing how strongly
I feel about my babies and how deeply saddened I am by their illnesses.  My
husband is about the only other person who understands how much our kitties
mean to both him and I.  Most other people I know don't understand the deep
bond one can have with an animal.

 

All your replies have meant much to me, and made me feel better.  It is
amazing that you have never met my babies or I, and yet can offer so many
words of reassurance.

 

I am missing Kisa terribly, as she was so much fun to have around.  She was
the social one, who interacted with my other cats, grooming and playing.
Now I have three kitties left who have nothing at all to do with each other.
I think they all miss her.

 

Sadly, I am not having much time to grieve for Kisa, because I believe Tomi
is getting sick again.  The last few days, he seems to be getting more
anemic again, and he vomited tonight.  After he vomited, he was panting for
a few seconds.  I'm also worried that he hasn't grown back the hair on his
neck that was shaved 3 months ago for his blood test.  It still looks like
it did a week after it was shaved.   

I'm thinking of bringing him into the vet again, even though they wanted to
put him to sleep 2 months ago.  I was wondering if his hemobartonella may be
coming back, and that should be simple enough for them to test for.

 

I am so scared to have to go through this again so soon, and afraid Tomi
won't be able to pull off a miracle a second time.  I almost feel like we
are being punished for something, the way this nightmare seems to be
unfolding.

 

Cassandra

- Original Message - 

From: C  mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]  J 

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2007 4:50 PM

Subject: Kisa is gone :(

 

Kisa passed away this morning while I was at work, exactly one month after
Koda.  My heart is broken, especially since I wasn't there with her at the
end.

 

I had prayed and hoped so much that she would continue to improve after she
started eating again a week and a half ago.  I suppose it was just too much
for her to overcome.  The anemia never really did improve much. Though her
breathing was better, her skin was so pale.

 

The last few days, her appetite faltered again, and she was getting weaker.
I didn't think today would be the day she died, though i'm relieved she
didn't have to go on suffering much longer.  I don't think she was in pain,
and I sincerely hope she wasn't in pain at the end.  It was just so hard to
see her so weak when she was as active and happy as a kitten 3 weeks ago.

 

Kisa is going to be missed more than words can say.  She never quite saw her
3rd birthday, but the time she spent with us will never be forgotten.  She
was special in so many ways, I wouldn't even know where to start to list
them all.  Fearless, loving, gentle, playful, curious, and sweet are just a
few of the words that describe her.  She's been sleeping on my pillow 

OT: frustrated

2007-06-18 Thread Melissa Lind
I know this is off topic, but I just had to jot this down at work since it's
consuming my thoughts. A lady that I work with has farm cats. Sadly, mama
kitty and baby climbed into the car trunk when open, and they didn't see
them when they closed it. It's been really hot and the two spent an entire
day in the trunk. Mama kitty didn't make it, but amazingly the baby did. But
now my co-worker (more annoyed by the smell than anything) isn't sure what
to do with the baby. She tried to feed it, I think, but she doesn't know
about kitty milk or anything like that. And she actually sounds as if she'd
rather just let it die. How horrifying. I've been close to tears all day
after she told me so regularly as if it were nothing more than a nuisance.

 

I really want to go take this baby and help it, but 1) I'm new here-it's
overstepping some boundaries, 2) the baby might not have made it through
today anyway without food, and 3) I have 3 of my own cats, 2 fosters, and a
husband who loves cats but is getting a little frustrated that I haven't
found homes for the foster cats yet. I know what the right thing to do is,
but I'm conflicted. More than anything I'm angry at this lady (or saddened)
by her lack of enthusiasm to help the poor baby. I can't stop thinking about
this little kitty. 

 

Right now I'm generally disgusted with people.

 

 



Re: frustrated

2007-06-18 Thread Marylyn
My nephew got me a bumper sticker for Christmas The more people I meet the 
more I like my cat.

If the situation is still on-going tomorrow you could offer, ever so sweetly, 
to relieve the lady of her problem, explaining how you know it is a burden, 
etc.   






 If you have men who will 
exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
  St. Francis
  - Original Message - 
  From: Melissa Lind 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 4:42 PM
  Subject: OT: frustrated


  I know this is off topic, but I just had to jot this down at work since it's 
consuming my thoughts. A lady that I work with has farm cats. Sadly, mama kitty 
and baby climbed into the car trunk when open, and they didn't see them when 
they closed it. It's been really hot and the two spent an entire day in the 
trunk. Mama kitty didn't make it, but amazingly the baby did. But now my 
co-worker (more annoyed by the smell than anything) isn't sure what to do with 
the baby. She tried to feed it, I think, but she doesn't know about kitty milk 
or anything like that. And she actually sounds as if she'd rather just let it 
die. How horrifying. I've been close to tears all day after she told me so 
regularly as if it were nothing more than a nuisance.

   

  I really want to go take this baby and help it, but 1) I'm new here-it's 
overstepping some boundaries, 2) the baby might not have made it through today 
anyway without food, and 3) I have 3 of my own cats, 2 fosters, and a husband 
who loves cats but is getting a little frustrated that I haven't found homes 
for the foster cats yet. I know what the right thing to do is, but I'm 
conflicted. More than anything I'm angry at this lady (or saddened) by her lack 
of enthusiasm to help the poor baby. I can't stop thinking about this little 
kitty. 

   

  Right now I'm generally disgusted with people.

   

   


Re: OT: frustrated

2007-06-18 Thread Debi Holmes
I would have to take the kitten.  Just offer to take it she will proably jump 
at the chance to get rid of it.  Where are you?  I am in Pennsylvania and would 
take the kitten if you are close.  This poor baby watched it's mother die in 
that trunk and is still here.  Apparently this baby wants to live.  Please help 
it!!!  If you are not close to me I would think that someone out there would be 
able to help.
   
  Debi H.

Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know this is off topic, but I just had to jot this down at 
work since it’s consuming my thoughts. A lady that I work with has farm cats. 
Sadly, mama kitty and baby climbed into the car trunk when open, and they 
didn’t see them when they closed it. It’s been really hot and the two spent an 
entire day in the trunk. Mama kitty didn’t make it, but amazingly the baby did. 
But now my co-worker (more annoyed by the smell than anything) isn’t sure what 
to do with the baby. She tried to feed it, I think, but she doesn’t know about 
kitty milk or anything like that. And she actually sounds as if she’d rather 
just let it die. How horrifying. I’ve been close to tears all day after she 
told me so “regularly” as if it were nothing more than a nuisance.
   
  I really want to go take this baby and help it, but 1) I’m new here—it’s 
overstepping some boundaries, 2) the baby might not have made it through today 
anyway without food, and 3) I have 3 of my own cats, 2 fosters, and a husband 
who loves cats but is getting a little frustrated that I haven’t found homes 
for the foster cats yet. I know what the right thing to do is, but I’m 
conflicted. More than anything I’m angry at this lady (or saddened) by her lack 
of enthusiasm to help the poor baby. I can’t stop thinking about this little 
kitty. 
   
  Right now I’m generally disgusted with people.
   
   



   
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Re: OT: frustrated

2007-06-18 Thread HIDEYO YAMAMOTO
that's very sweet of you, Debi. I have no idea where Melissa lives  - I live in 
NM and would take the kitten if Melissa lives close or we can somehow arrange 
for the transpotation.
  - Original Message - 
  From: Debi Holmesmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 4:03 PM
  Subject: Re: OT: frustrated


  I would have to take the kitten.  Just offer to take it she will proably jump 
at the chance to get rid of it.  Where are you?  I am in Pennsylvania and would 
take the kitten if you are close.  This poor baby watched it's mother die in 
that trunk and is still here.  Apparently this baby wants to live.  Please help 
it!!!  If you are not close to me I would think that someone out there would be 
able to help.

  Debi H.

  Melissa Lind [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know this is off topic, but I just had to jot this down at work since 
it's consuming my thoughts. A lady that I work with has farm cats. Sadly, mama 
kitty and baby climbed into the car trunk when open, and they didn't see them 
when they closed it. It's been really hot and the two spent an entire day in 
the trunk. Mama kitty didn't make it, but amazingly the baby did. But now my 
co-worker (more annoyed by the smell than anything) isn't sure what to do with 
the baby. She tried to feed it, I think, but she doesn't know about kitty milk 
or anything like that. And she actually sounds as if she'd rather just let it 
die. How horrifying. I've been close to tears all day after she told me so 
regularly as if it were nothing more than a nuisance.
 
I really want to go take this baby and help it, but 1) I'm new here-it's 
overstepping some boundaries, 2) the baby might not have made it through today 
anyway without food, and 3) I have 3 of my own cats, 2 fosters, and a husband 
who loves cats but is getting a little frustrated that I haven't found homes 
for the foster cats yet. I know what the right thing to do is, but I'm 
conflicted. More than anything I'm angry at this lady (or saddened) by her lack 
of enthusiasm to help the poor baby. I can't stop thinking about this little 
kitty. 
 
Right now I'm generally disgusted with people.
 
 




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Re: frustrated

2007-06-18 Thread Kelley Saveika

Hi Melissa,

This is one of many reasons I don't have a husband! Ha!

I'm sorry you are frustrated.  I am frustrated too.  I sat at my desk
and cried and cried today over a cat I couldn't help.

Are you sure it is overstepping boundaries?  It is a hard decision to
make, I know.

You can't control other people's actions, and you can't make her care
if she doesn't.

Would it be overstepping boundaries to offer to help her get the
remaining cats (I am SURE there are more) altered?  You could couch it
in terms of helping her with the nuisance of kittens.



Dear Melissa,

I am so very sorry to hear about what happened to the mama kitty, it's such
a tragic and makes me very sad. Melissa, I hope you will do what your heart
tells you to do.. regardless of all the concerns, the baby needs someone who
really cares about her as she just lost her mommy.  I hope you can go pick
her up as you care enough to think about the baby.

Obviously, your co worker does not want the baby, so you might be doing her
a favor if you ask her to take her from her... you can always find her a
good home if you cannot take care of herself.. this baby is lucky and strong
enough to live through this tragedy..she definitely deserves a second chance
by someone like you..

I will be praying for the baby..

Hideyo
- Original Message -
From: Melissa Lind
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 3:42 PM
Subject: OT: frustrated



I know this is off topic, but I just had to jot this down at work since it's
consuming my thoughts. A lady that I work with has farm cats. Sadly, mama
kitty and baby climbed into the car trunk when open, and they didn't see
them when they closed it. It's been really hot and the two spent an entire
day in the trunk. Mama kitty didn't make it, but amazingly the baby did. But
now my co-worker (more annoyed by the smell than anything) isn't sure what
to do with the baby. She tried to feed it, I think, but she doesn't know
about kitty milk or anything like that. And she actually sounds as if she'd
rather just let it die. How horrifying. I've been close to tears all day
after she told me so regularly as if it were nothing more than a nuisance.



I really want to go take this baby and help it, but 1) I'm new here—it's
overstepping some boundaries, 2) the baby might not have made it through
today anyway without food, and 3) I have 3 of my own cats, 2 fosters, and a
husband who loves cats but is getting a little frustrated that I haven't
found homes for the foster cats yet. I know what the right thing to do is,
but I'm conflicted. More than anything I'm angry at this lady (or saddened)
by her lack of enthusiasm to help the poor baby. I can't stop thinking about
this little kitty.



Right now I'm generally disgusted with people.







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Please help - miscarriage

2007-06-18 Thread HIDEYO YAMAMOTO
Hi, one of my rescued kitties just have had miscarriage -- the vet told me to 
take her to the emergency if she has fever ---she has 104 fever, but she seems 
alert.. and I don't want to stress her by taking her to the emergency as I 
don't know what they can do for her anyway... if you have any experience, 
please let me know -- she is not bleeding anymore or does not have odor.. it's 
hot and breathing a bit fast.. 

Hideyo

Re: OT: frustrated

2007-06-18 Thread Debi Holmes
Thank you, but this kitten has been through so much and really needs to get 
away from this thing called a human being.  People really do disgust me more 
and more everyday.  Hopefully she will be able to get this kitten and then we 
can work out finding someone who would be willing to take it if we are too far 
away.
   
  Debi

HIDEYO YAMAMOTO [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
that's very sweet of you, Debi. I have no idea where Melissa lives  - I 
live in NM and would take the kitten if Melissa lives close or we can somehow 
arrange for the transpotation.
- Original Message - 
  From: Debi Holmes 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, June 18, 2007 4:03 PM
  Subject: Re: OT: frustrated
  

  I would have to take the kitten.  Just offer to take it she will proably jump 
at the chance to get rid of it.  Where are you?  I am in Pennsylvania and would 
take the kitten if you are close.  This poor baby watched it's mother die in 
that trunk and is still here.  Apparently this baby wants to live.  Please help 
it!!!  If you are not close to me I would think that someone out there would be 
able to help.
   
  Debi H.

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thoughts. A lady that I work with has farm cats. Sadly, mama kitty and baby 
climbed into the car trunk when open, and they didn't see them when they
 closed it. It's been really hot and the two spent an entire day in the trunk. 
Mama kitty didn't make it, but amazingly the baby did. But now my co-worker 
(more annoyed by the smell than anything) isn't sure what to do with the baby. 
She tried to feed it, I think, but she doesn't know about kitty milk or 
anything like that. And she actually sounds as if she'd rather just let it die. 
How horrifying. I've been close to tears all day after she told me so 
regularly as if it were nothing more than a nuisance.
   
  I really want to go take this baby and help it, but 1) I'm new here-it's 
overstepping some boundaries, 2) the baby might not have made it through today 
anyway without food, and 3) I have 3 of my own cats, 2 fosters, and a husband 
who loves cats but is getting a little frustrated that I haven't found homes 
for the foster cats yet. I know what the right thing to do is, but I'm 
conflicted. More than anything I'm angry at this lady (or saddened) by her lack 
of enthusiasm to help the poor baby. I can't stop thinking about this little 
kitty. 
   
  Right now I'm generally disgusted with people.
   
   



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Re: Please help - miscarriage

2007-06-18 Thread Kelly L

At 05:30 PM 6/18/2007, you wrote:

It is an emergency as she could still have the placenta or another 
kiten there. the can give her oxytocin to increase contraction and 
expell what is still inside her. He may have a dead kitten in her and 
become infected rapidly

Please goHideyo
kelly



Hi, one of my rescued kitties just have had miscarriage -- the vet 
told me to take her to the emergency if she has fever ---she has 104 
fever, but she seems alert.. and I don't want to stress her by 
taking her to the emergency as I don't know what they can do for her 
anyway... if you have any experience, please let me know -- she is 
not bleeding anymore or does not have odor.. it's hot and breathing 
a bit fast..


Hideyo


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Re: Please help - miscarriage

2007-06-18 Thread MaryChristine

yeah, from what i know, hideyo, unless you are REALLY sure there's nothing
left inside, you could really be risking her health as those are nasty,
fast-moving infections. i understand not wanting to stress her, but whatever
caused the miscarriage in the first place has probably weakened her already,
and she's not gonna be able to fight off a massive infection if it sets in.

GLOW for her

On 6/18/07, Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


At 05:30 PM 6/18/2007, you wrote:

It is an emergency as she could still have the placenta or another
kiten there. the can give her oxytocin to increase contraction and
expell what is still inside her. He may have a dead kitten in her and
become infected rapidly
Please goHideyo
kelly



Hi, one of my rescued kitties just have had miscarriage -- the vet
told me to take her to the emergency if she has fever ---she has 104
fever, but she seems alert.. and I don't want to stress her by
taking her to the emergency as I don't know what they can do for her
anyway... if you have any experience, please let me know -- she is
not bleeding anymore or does not have odor.. it's hot and breathing
a bit fast..

Hideyo


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Victor Please add to the CLS :(

2007-06-18 Thread Sherry DeHaan
Sweet Victor a cat with the most beautiful green eyes lost his battle to felv 
today.He was living with Camden,the same guy that recently lost Laurel.THis is 
his 3rd one he lost to this aweful disease.He has such a big heart for adopting 
the feleuks.I really though Victor was going to make it much longer.Thank you 
all for your support.
  Sherry and her 5 beautiful fur kids

 
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Re: Victor Please add to the CLS :(

2007-06-18 Thread Gloria Lane

Sherry, I am so sorry -sleep soft sweet Victor -  Gloria


On Jun 18, 2007, at 8:25 PM, Sherry DeHaan wrote:

Sweet Victor a cat with the most beautiful green eyes lost his  
battle to felv today.He was living with Camden,the same guy that  
recently lost Laurel.THis is his 3rd one he lost to this aweful  
disease.He has such a big heart for adopting the feleuks.I really  
though Victor was going to make it much longer.Thank you all for  
your support.

Sherry and her 5 beautiful fur kids

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