Re: [Felvtalk] chemmo for Pupa
I am replying to this because I can't seem to send email to the organization. Someone last week, wrote about giving cats q-10 enzymes. I am wanting to know what strength to give a cat. They said it cleared up the gum problems the cat had. My Miss Clara has red-line gingivitis and has had to have 8 teeth pulled. I am constantly afraid it is going to cause her decline from the leukemia. Does anyone remember that email? thanks, Alice - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: hebert ferrarezzimailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 20, 2008 9:40 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] chemmo for Pupa Hello, i don't know about cats, but i had perpherial t cell lymphoma and had the same chemotherapy you mentioned plus a couple of others. none of them did anything but make my hemoglobin drop to 3.4. at the end of 2 or 3 years of chemo, stopped treatments, did no good. then a year later i went into remission all on my own. now 5 years cancer free. i also did vitamins and minerals along with the chemo. oncologist went along with me and even said would write prescription if had to go into hospital. if my experience can compare, if side effects get too bad, stop treatment. not worth the suffering. i would try Dr. Susan Maier, a holistic vet and go with vitamin and mineral therapy along with the chemo and then if you drop chemo, vitamins will have Pupa in better shape than without.there is another holistic vet someone told about. they do phone consultations. check with your state veterinarian association for local holistic vets. others have mentioned l lysine, vitamin c. other answers will come . dorils hebert ferrarezzi [EMAIL PROTECTED]mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Olá amigos, As already told, Pupa (8 years old) was tested FeLV+ in January/2008 and diagnosed with lymploma (large cell type) at the submandibular lymphnode in april. Since then, she has been treated with Staphylococcal Protein A and has recovered very well from severe thrombocytopenia and neutropenia. The lymphoma had an apparent short time of remission but returned in a persistent constant slow growth. A chemmo protocol using L-asparaginase+Prednisone was initiated and interrupted after 3 weeks since no effect was noted. A recent ultrasonographic image exam showed a large and encapsulated tumor. Considering that Pupa upholds good red/white BCC, I decided to begin a more aggressive chemmo protocol (COP: cyclophosphamide, vincristine, predinisone) two weeks ago. The response was surprisingly: five days after the first COP session, the tumor reduced to an unstructured mass, and at the eighth day, when the second vincristine injection was done, no sign of it could be founded by touch inspection. The vets were astonished such a rapid remission and we are praying so that thus remains for a long long time. The third chemmo session is to be tomorrow, after checking the results of her new hematological exam. My question, I hope you could help me by previous experience or knowledge about, is: Should I have to shorten the protocol or at least reduce the drugs dosage (in order to avoid the side effects that are beginning to appear)? Any information will be very welcome, Many thanksSincerely... Hebert http://www.butantan.gov.br/ecoevo/index_ing.htmhttp://www.butantan.gov.br/ecoevo/index_ing.htm _ Confira vídeos com notícias do NY Times, gols direto do Lance, videocassetadas e muito mais no MSN Video! http://video.msn.com/?mkt=pt-brhttp://video.msn.com/?mkt=pt-br ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] chemmo for Pupa
Normally 30mg is the dose given once daily, this is what my vet recommended to me. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] chemmo for Pupa
By this comment I was talking about CO-Q 10 Normally 30mg is the dose given once daily, this is what my vet recommended to me. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] chemmo for Pupa
THANK YOU!!! I'm calling my vet today. Alice - Original Message - From: Belinda Sauromailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] chemmo for Pupa By this comment I was talking about CO-Q 10 Normally 30mg is the dose given once daily, this is what my vet recommended to me. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.comhttp://bemikitties.com/ http://BelindaSauro.comhttp://belindasauro.com/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] chemmo for Pupa
I just wanted everyone to know that just b/c your kitty tests positive on the ELISA, even twice, at month or more long intervals, it doesn't mean your kitty is FeLV positive. I am seeing adoption ads for people who give the ELISA test once, and think the kitten has to be adopted out and can't live with them anymore. This is not true in every case. Lola was in this situation, and fought off the disease---probiotics, high quality food (Evo), indoor only home, quality interaction and love, plus low stress environment (no other cats, except for a few fosters which were kept totally separate). My Dad was diligent about trying to provide the best quality home he could for her, so she could knock out the disease. She did, and now she now has natural immunity to FeLV. Of course, it won't work in every case, but it shouldn't stop us from having hope... -Original Message- From: Alice hanson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 7:59 am Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] chemmo for Pupa THANK YOU!!! I'm calling my vet today. Alice - Original Message - From: Belinda Sauromailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 9:56 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] chemmo for Pupa By this comment I was talking about CO-Q 10 Normally 30mg is the dose given once daily, this is what my vet recommended to me. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.comhttp://bemikitties.com/ http://BelindaSauro.comhttp://belindasauro.com/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Fwd: HEMANGIO SARCOMA
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[Felvtalk] update on Mickey
I sent this earlier but I don't think it went through. I wrote a couple of weeks ago that my cat, Mickey, was going to have a growth removed from his leg that kept bleeding. The biopsy came back as malignant hemangio sarcoma. Even though it was on the skin and the doctor said he was 99% sure he got it all, I have been told that it will probably come back in his lungs or heart. I don't think I want to put him through chemo if it does. I want him to have as many good days as he can. Viky Digangi Support Enforcement Officer II Monroe Regional Office 318-362-5280 ext 297 Fax 318-362-3363 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] update on Mickey
Viky, I'm sorry the news wasn't better. I don't know anything about this, but I'm wondering if there's a way to do chemo now that would prevent reoccurrence later? I know chemo is never an easy thing. Hugs to both of you. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Viky Digangi Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 1:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] update on Mickey I sent this earlier but I don't think it went through. I wrote a couple of weeks ago that my cat, Mickey, was going to have a growth removed from his leg that kept bleeding. The biopsy came back as malignant hemangio sarcoma. Even though it was on the skin and the doctor said he was 99% sure he got it all, I have been told that it will probably come back in his lungs or heart. I don't think I want to put him through chemo if it does. I want him to have as many good days as he can. Viky Digangi Support Enforcement Officer II Monroe Regional Office 318-362-5280 ext 297 Fax 318-362-3363 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] update on Mickey
I read all of the information...thanks, by the way...and I agree with you; I wouldn't put one of my little ones through chemo with such a bleak outlookjust love him all you can while he's still well enough to enjoy it! Debbie (COL)I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something.And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something that I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God,I will do(Edward Everett Hale) Date: Tue, 21 Oct 2008 13:29:20 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] update on Mickey I sent this earlier but I don't think it went through. I wrote a couple of weeks ago that my cat, Mickey, was going to have a growth removed from his leg that kept bleeding. The biopsy came back as malignant hemangio sarcoma. Even though it was on the skin and the doctor said he was 99% sure he got it all, I have been told that it will probably come back in his lungs or heart. I don't think I want to put him through chemo if it does. I want him to have as many good days as he can.Viky Digangi Support Enforcement Officer II Monroe Regional Office 318-362-5280 ext 297 Fax 318-362-3363 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] update on Mickey
Vicky, I'm sorry about the dx. I've never had a cancer kitty so can't offer any advise. You plan to keep Mickey happy sounds like a good one. Sharyl --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Viky Digangi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Viky Digangi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] update on Mickey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 2:29 PM I sent this earlier but I don't think it went through. I wrote a couple of weeks ago that my cat, Mickey, was going to have a growth removed from his leg that kept bleeding. The biopsy came back as malignant hemangio sarcoma. Even though it was on the skin and the doctor said he was 99% sure he got it all, I have been told that it will probably come back in his lungs or heart. I don't think I want to put him through chemo if it does. I want him to have as many good days as he can. Viky Digangi Support Enforcement Officer II Monroe Regional Office 318-362-5280 ext 297 Fax 318-362-3363 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] update on Mickey
HI I am so sorry to hear about Micky's dx.The dermal form is less agressive, so maybe there is hope there. The site I went to basically said chemo does not do much good. However I would go with the vets opinion on that. http://www.addl.purdue.edu/newsletters/2004/Fall/heman.htm I will be pulling for Micky. Hugs Sally ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] update on Mickey
My typical comments on situations that look bad: see if you can find an alternative vet. Mine has increased the quality of life for four of my wonderful friends and the new kittens, Copper and Thomas, see one just to make sure they are getting everything they need (they came from a pine thicket and very questionable background healthwise. Obviously their mothers cared a lot for them because they were brought behind my Mom's home where they would be found and given everything.) Next, do not dwell on what may be. None of us are guaranteed a minute of life. The goal, IMO, is to have the highest quality of life possible with all the love possible. Blessings to you and your Mickey. You are both blessed to have each other. On Oct 21, 2008, at 2:50 PM, Sharyl wrote: Vicky, I'm sorry about the dx. I've never had a cancer kitty so can't offer any advise. You plan to keep Mickey happy sounds like a good one. Sharyl --- On Tue, 10/21/08, Viky Digangi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Viky Digangi [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Felvtalk] update on Mickey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, October 21, 2008, 2:29 PM I sent this earlier but I don't think it went through. I wrote a couple of weeks ago that my cat, Mickey, was going to have a growth removed from his leg that kept bleeding. The biopsy came back as malignant hemangio sarcoma. Even though it was on the skin and the doctor said he was 99% sure he got it all, I have been told that it will probably come back in his lungs or heart. I don't think I want to put him through chemo if it does. I want him to have as many good days as he can. Viky Digangi Support Enforcement Officer II Monroe Regional Office 318-362-5280 ext 297 Fax 318-362-3363 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] update on Mickey
just be sure there is no alternative. maybe chemo for a few treatments and then if too hard for Mickey, stop. i've been there last year with Shadow and Shorty. i had to put them to sleep within a month of each other. Shadow had a tumor on his spine and he was 18 years old. by the time we got to Columbia (U of MO vet school), the tumor had cut off circulation for 2 long and said he would never have use of back legs. Shorty woke me up screaming. he was having a series of strokes. drove 90 miles an hour to emergency vet (4am). did do one smart thing, called 911 and told them on way to vet and wasn't stopping for tickets, could follow me and give it to me at vet's. the nice lady asked me for color of car, license, said to drive carefully and called ahead to highway patrol and other police departments i would be passing thru. had 2 cars falsh their lights at me and motion me on. people put police down today, but they can be nice people. Since Shorty was also 18, any treatment might be more than he could handle. never want to hear a cat screaming like that again and hate making that decision. dorlis Rosenfeldt wrote: Viky, I'm sorry the news wasn't better. I don't know anything about this, but I'm wondering if there's a way to do chemo now that would prevent reoccurrence later? I know chemo is never an easy thing. Hugs to both of you. Diane R. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Viky Digangi Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 2008 1:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] update on Mickey I sent this earlier but I don't think it went through. I wrote a couple of weeks ago that my cat, Mickey, was going to have a growth removed from his leg that kept bleeding. The biopsy came back as malignant hemangio sarcoma. Even though it was on the skin and the doctor said he was 99% sure he got it all, I have been told that it will probably come back in his lungs or heart. I don't think I want to put him through chemo if it does. I want him to have as many good days as he can. Viky Digangi Support Enforcement Officer II Monroe Regional Office 318-362-5280 ext 297 Fax 318-362-3363 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] chemmo for Pupa
I am writing to thank you all. This is really an unique and interesting group. The answers I got for may question about the chemo for Pupa were fairly beyond my expectative. Aside some valuable technical explanations, I also heard one, not less technical, from the patient perspective! That is great! Truly thanks for the attention. It’s sure that cats and humans can be compared. That’s scientists do all the time, studding their genes http://lgd.abcc.ncifcrf.gov/ and their virus, using one as a model to the other (in a dual progress). Dorlis, I don’t known any holistic veterinary here in São Paulo, but I am trying to be informed about any alternative therapy to my four positive. In this way I’m really indebted to this group mailing and archives and to the felineleukemia page sponsor. hebert As a matter of curiosity, I transcribed below, an abstract of a presentation by O. Jarrett in the 8th International Feline Retrovirus Research Symposium: Cat Genomics and Infectious Diseases in the 21st Century. Washington, DC; October, 2006. http://ifrrs8.ncifcrf.gov/IFRRS8-abstracts.pdf HOW FeLV CHANGED THE WORLD Oswald Jarrett*, University of Glasgow, Institute of Comparative Medicine, Faculty of Veterinary Medicine, Bearsden, Glasgow G61 1QH, Scotland Telephone +44 141 956 2111 [EMAIL PROTECTED] FeLV research has had a significant impact on feline welfare, comparative biology and human retrovirology. Since its discovery, the prevalence of FeLV has declined dramatically until the infection is now rare in some areas. The benefits to cat health have been equally striking, as the outcome of persistent infection is almost always fatal. This success is due to the application of diagnostic tests to identify and separate infected from non-infected cats; and vaccination. Because FeLV has evolved in groups of cats in close contact, but is poorly transmitted in free-ranging cats, these measures have reduced the incidence of infection in the whole community. Continuing vigorous application of these measures should eradicate the infection from even larger populations of cats. Various by-products of FeLV research that have been valuable in comparative medicine include: the discovery of several oncogenes, including sis and kit, that are involved in signal transduction; examples of ways in which genes may collaborate in leukaemogenesis; and, through the study of FeLV-C, which causes pure red cell aplasia, the identification of the human haem transporter that is essential for erythroid differentiation. FeLV research also strongly influenced the discovery of human retroviruses. As an example of a horizontally transmitted, naturally occurring virus causing leukaemia, FeLV provided crucial support for the establishment of the Special Virus Cancer Program. Subsequently, the search for viruses in T-cell tumours, driven by the knowledge that this is the predominant form caused by FeLV, led to the discovery of HTLV, and subsequently HIV. Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 21:40:09 -0500 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org CC: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] chemmo for Pupa Hello, i don't know about cats, but i had perpherial t cell lymphoma and had the same chemotherapy you mentioned plus a couple of others. none of them did anything but make my hemoglobin drop to 3.4. at the end of 2 or 3 years of chemo, stopped treatments, did no good. then a year later i went into remission all on my own. now 5 years cancer free. i also did vitamins and minerals along with the chemo. oncologist went along with me and even said would write prescription if had to go into hospital. if my experience can compare, if side effects get too bad, stop treatment. not worth the suffering. i would try Dr. Susan Maier, a holistic vet and go with vitamin and mineral therapy along with the chemo and then if you drop chemo, vitamins will have Pupa in better shape than without. there is another holistic vet someone told about. they do phone consultations. check with your state veterinarian association for local holistic vets. others have mentioned l lysine, vitamin c. other answers will come . dorils hebert ferrarezzi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Olá amigos, As already told, Pupa (8 years old) was tested FeLV+ in January/2008 and diagnosed with lymploma (large cell type) at the submandibular lymphnode in april. Since then, she has been treated with Staphylococcal Protein A and has recovered very well from severe thrombocytopenia and neutropenia. The lymphoma had an apparent short time of remission but returned in a persistent constant slow growth. A chemmo protocol using L-asparaginase+Prednisone was initiated and interrupted after 3 weeks since no effect was noted. A recent ultrasonographic image exam showed a large and encapsulated tumor. Considering that Pupa upholds good red/white BCC, I decided to begin a more aggressive chemmo protocol
Re: [Felvtalk] New to group
Hooray for her! How wonderful to get such good news...my Monday is now complete! Thanks for sharing with us. Sometimes things seem so depressingbut news like this brightens anyone's day!Debbie (COL)I am only one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something.And because I cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something that I can do. What I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God,I will do (Edward Everett Hale) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 11:33:16 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to group Oops, truncated message. She tested 30% positive (small, faded dot) at 9 weeks. Same at 11 weeks. Then retested at 5.5 months old- positive again. All 3 were the Elisa test. Then our vet recommended the PCR test, which he says can detect even minute amounts of the virus, and is more accurate than the IFA. Test results came back-- she is negative! We believe this is a miracle, as we didn't hold out much hope she'd turn positive. So it does happen. My Dad has been feeding her EVO, and also probiotics. She is indoors only, up to date on her combo shot, dewormed, and really healthy otherwise. She had a poor appetite though for the most part. She is completely isolated from the other kittens we rescued, and my Dad is super vigilant about washing hands, keeping all areas and bedding, food, etc. separate...-Original Message- From: Saehwa Kang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 6:44 pm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to group I just joined the group and got some good news this past Friday. Lola, the 6 month old feral kitten we resued tested positive on the ELISA test at 9 weeks, 11 weeks, Sent from my iPhone On Oct 19, 2008, at 10:17 AM, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've been mixing *except kittens* for nearly 15 years now. I've never had it transferred. Your cats should not have a problem. Good luck! tonya Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] et wrote: Hello, I have to say this is a very enlightening forum. I have learned so much from you all! I found a stray 2 months ago at work who was in terrible condition, near death, starving, fleas, worms, etc. She had a 'tipped' ear and I found out later she was an Indy Feral cat who was in the TNR program. Don't know whether she was actually 'feral' though, but I doubt it because she has become quite lovable. Had her tested at a low cost clinic and was +. The vet there said her teeth didn't look so good and that was typical in feral cats. When I took her to my regular vet, he somehow neglected to even look in her mouth and he said as a + she'd live a couple months to a year, giving a very grim diagnosis. I tried not to prod at her too much at first since she was in such a delicate condition, but about a week after the vet appt, I noticed she was missing all of her tiny teeth on the top and all but one of the little ones on the bottom. I was horrified and it was then realized that my vet hadn't even looked in her mouth. After nursing her back to health, she has become very healthy except for some sneezing spells every now and then. This does worry me because sometimes mucus comes out. She had extreme uncontrollable diarrhea when I first got her, which after using fortiflora for a month 0A helped a lot, but did not cure it completely. For the last week I have been feeding her a raw chicken diet (I have been feeding my other 3 cats this diet since February with amazing results) and her diarrhea is completely gone. So she's been in my bathroom isolated from my other cats this entire time, and she really does seem to be happy there but I hate to keep them separated. I am getting ready to take her to the vet again to have her teeth checked out because her breath is really terrible (seeing a different vet there though). I am worried about stressing her out by taking her to the vet and I know they will recommend a cleaning which will probably stress her even more, but having an unhealthy mouth would be worse on her than the experience of a cleaning. Right? I have 3 other (negative) cats, 2 are adults and one is about 1 year and 5 months (I guess you'd call her an adult, she did just have her 2nd dose of the felv vax) These 2 vets say they would absolutely NOT mix. My question to all of you who mix is: Have any of your negatives become + ?? Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Tracey ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yah oo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
