Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie and weakness

2010-07-28 Thread jbero tds.net
Amy,

Good luck with the search.  I figure it's always nice to have options.  If
you need any specifics, just let me know.

Jenny

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 7:09 PM, Amy  wrote:

> Hi Jenny,
>
> Sorry to take so long to respond.  I've just been spending every minute I
> can with Wolfie.  I have been calling around and looking into holistic
> alternatives. So far I've found a vet that does herbal stuff and
> acupuncture.  I've not yet found anybody that does chiro.  Still waiting to
> here from the vet at Cornell before making any final decisions.  Thanks for
> the suggestions.
>
> Amy
>
> --- On Mon, 7/26/10, jbero tds.net  wrote:
>
> > From: jbero tds.net 
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] Wolfie and weakness
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Date: Monday, July 26, 2010, 1:09 PM
>  > Amy,
> >
> > I don't have much input on restricting activity.  In
> > general it seems to me
> > that once a cat realizes his limitations he'll limit
> > himself.  I am not big
> > on limiting them.  They generally do that on their
> > own.  I guess it's a
> > personal opinion.  Certainly something could happen,
> > but something could
> > happen to any of us.
> >
> > I really wanted to see if you would be interested in trying
> > a tonic.  It is
> > a tonic meant for treatment of cancers, but it has
> > properties and benefits
> > that extend beyond this.  It has helped various people
> > and animals in
> > various way.  Noone has ever reported any significant
> > negative side effects
> > with its use.  It is an herbal tonic consistenting of
> > four plant
> > derivatives.  I was wondering if it could help a felv
> > cat.  It would be
> > fantastic to see a reversal of neurologic symptoms.  I
> > don't know that it
> > would help, but it has done wonders in many settings.
> >
> > If you're interested I can send you the list of herbs and
> > how to prepare
> > it.
> >
> > On a different note, I have seen some amazing things with
> > acupuncture and
> > alignment on dogs and cats.  If the weakness is not
> > due to felv, these
> > procedures may help.  You'd have to go to an
> > alternative vet for that
> > though.  I don't know it was just a thought and I
> > figured I put it out
> > there.
> >
> > Jenny
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Re: [Felvtalk] Wolfie and weakness

2010-07-28 Thread Amy
Hi Jenny,

Sorry to take so long to respond.  I've just been spending every minute I can 
with Wolfie.  I have been calling around and looking into holistic 
alternatives. So far I've found a vet that does herbal stuff and acupuncture.  
I've not yet found anybody that does chiro.  Still waiting to here from the vet 
at Cornell before making any final decisions.  Thanks for the suggestions.

Amy

--- On Mon, 7/26/10, jbero tds.net  wrote:

> From: jbero tds.net 
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Wolfie and weakness
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Monday, July 26, 2010, 1:09 PM
> Amy,
> 
> I don't have much input on restricting activity.  In
> general it seems to me
> that once a cat realizes his limitations he'll limit
> himself.  I am not big
> on limiting them.  They generally do that on their
> own.  I guess it's a
> personal opinion.  Certainly something could happen,
> but something could
> happen to any of us.
> 
> I really wanted to see if you would be interested in trying
> a tonic.  It is
> a tonic meant for treatment of cancers, but it has
> properties and benefits
> that extend beyond this.  It has helped various people
> and animals in
> various way.  Noone has ever reported any significant
> negative side effects
> with its use.  It is an herbal tonic consistenting of
> four plant
> derivatives.  I was wondering if it could help a felv
> cat.  It would be
> fantastic to see a reversal of neurologic symptoms.  I
> don't know that it
> would help, but it has done wonders in many settings.
> 
> If you're interested I can send you the list of herbs and
> how to prepare
> it.
> 
> On a different note, I have seen some amazing things with
> acupuncture and
> alignment on dogs and cats.  If the weakness is not
> due to felv, these
> procedures may help.  You'd have to go to an
> alternative vet for that
> though.  I don't know it was just a thought and I
> figured I put it out
> there.
> 
> Jenny
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Re: [Felvtalk] Warning: Evo bought by Proctor and Gamble!

2010-07-28 Thread Natalie
That's really bad newswhenever this happens, as has with IAMs and
others, the food quality goes way down, not to mention that they start
testing on animalswhat a bummer!  Natalie & =^..^= etc.

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of wendy
Sent: Wednesday, July 28, 2010 2:04 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Warning: Evo bought by Proctor and Gamble!

As of June 1st, Proctor and Gamble bought Natura Foods, which manufactures 
Innova, Innova Evo, and California Natural, among other foods for pets.  I
just 
wanted to let all of you know so that you could pass it on if any of you
belong 
to other pet owner list serve groups.  Some people will have a real problem
with 
this, since P&G has been associated with animal testing.  The link below
states 
that the ingredients will not change (by the president of Natura), however I

find this VERY hard to believe.  We'll see what happens over time.  

http://naturapet.com/news/letter.asp 

:)
Wendy


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more-Sourcesforproducts?

2010-07-28 Thread trmckelvey
Hi Gary,

Do you have any information on concentration of acemannan and dosing for the 
discontinued product?  I'm investigating several sources for powdered 
acemannan, which is taken orally.  It might offer an alternative to the 
injectable form, although I suspect doses are smaller and might require longer 
usage time to show results.

Terry
 gary  wrote: 

=
I am afraid I have some very bad news concerning Acemannan.  I have found 
out the manufacturer, Carrington Labs, is out of business.  I emailed VPL 
and they said as far as they know, there is no one else making it. So, we 
have another product that was effective in saving the lives of cats that is 
no longer available.

Gary

--
From: "gary" 
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 1:50 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much 
more-Sourcesforproducts?

> It is made by Carrington Labs and was being marketed by VPL, but it is no 
> longer on their website and a search shows their contract with Carrington 
> Labs expired in April.  I am going to call Carrington Labs in the morning 
> and see if they have another distributor, I sure hope it is still 
> available. It comes in a box containing four 10 mg containers.  The last 
> time my vet ordered it, it was $225, that was his cost.  The protocol is 2 
> mg/KG IP, weekly for 6 weeks and then monthly.  The monthly shots can be 
> given sub-q. For those unfamiliar with what IP means, it means through the 
> wall of the abdomen.
>
> The instructions say you must use it within 4 hours of mixing it, but the 
> vet who was the technical assistance person for VPL told me any leftover 
> would keep fine in the fridge for a week and for a month in the freezer.
>
> Gary
>
> --
> From: "Alice Flowers" 
> Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 12:06 AM
> To: 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more-Sources 
> forproducts?
>
>> Could you describe what the Acemannan (sp?)  is and how it's used? Also 
>> what are
>> good sources for this and also pettinic?  Alice
> 

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[Felvtalk] Cyst

2010-07-28 Thread Stacy Zacher
Hi:
 
Thanks for the news on Acemannan Gary. That is really too bad about it being 
off the market now.  
 
I have a question on Spanky. We have a vet appt on Saturday for his 2nd LTCI 
Imulan injection. Now his cyst in his whiskers seems to be getting larger. 
Yesterday he scratched it and kept breaking it open and was bleeding all over. 
Short of putting an e-collar on him I'm not sure what else to do!  I've been 
putting triple antibiotic on it and he licks it right off. The vet will look at 
it Saturday of course.  Should I have them aspirate it? I am just afraid of any 
ramifications if they open it and make things worse and he gets an infection. 
If the recommend antibiotics should I give them to him? He was on metronidazole 
a few times since march for intestinal issues.  I guess I feel really stupid 
asking all of this but if it weren't an immune suppressed kitty, it would be 
easier to figure out.  They suggested that his cysts could really be mast cell 
tumors - the one his his face grew in the last month (or became infected and 
swelled up). His routine
 has been the same, eating/drinking/using this box all okay.   Any ideas or 
thoughts are greatly appreciated. 
PS I had read turmeric was good for tumors/cysts but most of what I find is for 
dogs and then there is a percentage that says never feed it to your cat or dog. 

Thanks much, Purrs, Stacy and Spanky
stacy_zac...@yahoo.com


  
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[Felvtalk] Warning: Evo bought by Proctor and Gamble!

2010-07-28 Thread wendy
As of June 1st, Proctor and Gamble bought Natura Foods, which manufactures 
Innova, Innova Evo, and California Natural, among other foods for pets.  I just 
wanted to let all of you know so that you could pass it on if any of you belong 
to other pet owner list serve groups.  Some people will have a real problem 
with 
this, since P&G has been associated with animal testing.  The link below states 
that the ingredients will not change (by the president of Natura), however I 
find this VERY hard to believe.  We'll see what happens over time.  

http://naturapet.com/news/letter.asp 

:)
Wendy


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more-Sourcesforproducts?

2010-07-28 Thread gary
I am afraid I have some very bad news concerning Acemannan.  I have found 
out the manufacturer, Carrington Labs, is out of business.  I emailed VPL 
and they said as far as they know, there is no one else making it. So, we 
have another product that was effective in saving the lives of cats that is 
no longer available.


Gary

--
From: "gary" 
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 1:50 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much 
more-Sourcesforproducts?


It is made by Carrington Labs and was being marketed by VPL, but it is no 
longer on their website and a search shows their contract with Carrington 
Labs expired in April.  I am going to call Carrington Labs in the morning 
and see if they have another distributor, I sure hope it is still 
available. It comes in a box containing four 10 mg containers.  The last 
time my vet ordered it, it was $225, that was his cost.  The protocol is 2 
mg/KG IP, weekly for 6 weeks and then monthly.  The monthly shots can be 
given sub-q. For those unfamiliar with what IP means, it means through the 
wall of the abdomen.


The instructions say you must use it within 4 hours of mixing it, but the 
vet who was the technical assistance person for VPL told me any leftover 
would keep fine in the fridge for a week and for a month in the freezer.


Gary

--
From: "Alice Flowers" 
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2010 12:06 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more-Sources 
forproducts?


Could you describe what the Acemannan (sp?)  is and how it's used? Also 
what are

good sources for this and also pettinic?  Alice




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