Re: [Felvtalk] Cats not getting along

2010-12-19 Thread Lorrie
None of my cats sleep together either. They are affectionate with me,
but not each other. They either ignore each other or have hiss, spit,
yowling arguments along with a few well placed swats at each other. 

I wonder if this is because all 14 of my cats were rescues who all
arrived here at different times. None of them were kittens who grew
up together, tho some were kittens when I took them in. The kittens
are accepted better by the others, and the most difficult cats to
introduce are grown males who remain a threat to my other males even
tho they've been neutered immediately.  Our house is large, and they
have plenty of room, toys, climbing trees, cat condos as well as port
holes to three outside enclosures.  You'd think this would make them
happy, but the tension in our household is ongoing, unless all 14
happen to be sleeping at the same time :-(

Lorrie

 On 12-15, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
 Beverly
 Oh, how I long for a home like yours! I agree about the intro, and
 I've tried to do it right with everyone.  The most recent one was
 Lucky, and he's doing well and seems accepted by all. But there are
 tensions, especially between Stormy and the other girl, Miya Chan
 (she's a rehabilitated feral).  I think boy cats are mellower, more
 accepting.  I would love to see everyone curled up together on the
 couch or my bed, or playing together.  Sigh. Thanks for another
 perspective! Bonnie

 - Original Message - From: Beverly
 
 Hi Bonnie,
 
 I must beg to differ that most cats prefer to be the only!  I have
 five male cats (aged fifteen years to six months) in our small
 apartment and they are all best buds.  They rumble and tumble and
 play, and curl up and sleep together when they get tired.  I don't
 think any of them would do well as an only cat.  Most of my
 friends and family also have multiple cats that are great friends.
 
 It's all about the introduction - a slow, careful introduction of
 a new cat to the resident cats can lead to a very happy
 relationship.
 
 Just my two cents.
 
 Beverly

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Re: [Felvtalk] Cats not getting along

2010-12-19 Thread Bonnie Hogue

Wow, Lorrie, good for you for taking in 14 felines!
I often wonder how these cat colonies one reads about manage, for I've 
never seen a totally peaceful group.  In my experience, everyone finds 
their spot where they are comfortable and secure, then that's it.  One 
furry body out of place and the whole bunch get in a tizzy.  But, as I told 
my little clan this morning while it was pouring rain outside, At least you 
guys are warm, dry, safe and don't have to hunt for your next meal.  So it 
beats the alternative!

~Bonnie
- Original Message - 
From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 8:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cats not getting along



None of my cats sleep together either. They are affectionate with me,
but not each other. They either ignore each other or have hiss, spit,
yowling arguments along with a few well placed swats at each other.

I wonder if this is because all 14 of my cats were rescues who all
arrived here at different times. None of them were kittens who grew
up together, tho some were kittens when I took them in. The kittens
are accepted better by the others, and the most difficult cats to
introduce are grown males who remain a threat to my other males even
tho they've been neutered immediately.  Our house is large, and they
have plenty of room, toys, climbing trees, cat condos as well as port
holes to three outside enclosures.  You'd think this would make them
happy, but the tension in our household is ongoing, unless all 14
happen to be sleeping at the same time :-(

Lorrie


On 12-15, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
Beverly
Oh, how I long for a home like yours! I agree about the intro, and
I've tried to do it right with everyone.  The most recent one was
Lucky, and he's doing well and seems accepted by all. But there are
tensions, especially between Stormy and the other girl, Miya Chan
(she's a rehabilitated feral).  I think boy cats are mellower, more
accepting.  I would love to see everyone curled up together on the
couch or my bed, or playing together.  Sigh. Thanks for another
perspective! Bonnie



- Original Message - From: Beverly

Hi Bonnie,

I must beg to differ that most cats prefer to be the only!  I have
five male cats (aged fifteen years to six months) in our small
apartment and they are all best buds.  They rumble and tumble and
play, and curl up and sleep together when they get tired.  I don't
think any of them would do well as an only cat.  Most of my
friends and family also have multiple cats that are great friends.

It's all about the introduction - a slow, careful introduction of
a new cat to the resident cats can lead to a very happy
relationship.

Just my two cents.

Beverly


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2010-12-19 Thread Dawn Bartholomew
My Buddy Cat died in September from FeLV.  I finally found another kitty that I 
would like to adopt from a shelter from KY near Lexington.
I live in PA.  Does anyone live near Lexington?  I would be willing to pay for 
gas and an extra $100 if someone can drive half way (4-5 hours) and meet me.
I want to surprise my daughter and husband for Christmas.

Dawn
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cats not getting along

2010-12-19 Thread MaiMaiPG
Please remember that a group of people, especially siblings, argue.   
It is part of being individuals.  If they all got along together all  
the time and agreed on every thing their lives would be boring.

On Dec 19, 2010, at 12:14 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:


Wow, Lorrie, good for you for taking in 14 felines!
I often wonder how these cat colonies one reads about manage, for  
I've never seen a totally peaceful group.  In my experience,  
everyone finds their spot where they are comfortable and secure,  
then that's it.  One furry body out of place and the whole bunch get  
in a tizzy.  But, as I told my little clan this morning while it was  
pouring rain outside, At least you guys are warm, dry, safe and  
don't have to hunt for your next meal.  So it beats the alternative!

~Bonnie
- Original Message - From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 8:11 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cats not getting along



None of my cats sleep together either. They are affectionate with me,
but not each other. They either ignore each other or have hiss, spit,
yowling arguments along with a few well placed swats at each other.

I wonder if this is because all 14 of my cats were rescues who all
arrived here at different times. None of them were kittens who grew
up together, tho some were kittens when I took them in. The kittens
are accepted better by the others, and the most difficult cats to
introduce are grown males who remain a threat to my other males even
tho they've been neutered immediately.  Our house is large, and they
have plenty of room, toys, climbing trees, cat condos as well as port
holes to three outside enclosures.  You'd think this would make them
happy, but the tension in our household is ongoing, unless all 14
happen to be sleeping at the same time :-(

Lorrie


On 12-15, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
Beverly
Oh, how I long for a home like yours! I agree about the intro, and
I've tried to do it right with everyone.  The most recent one was
Lucky, and he's doing well and seems accepted by all. But there are
tensions, especially between Stormy and the other girl, Miya Chan
(she's a rehabilitated feral).  I think boy cats are mellower, more
accepting.  I would love to see everyone curled up together on the
couch or my bed, or playing together.  Sigh. Thanks for another
perspective! Bonnie



- Original Message - From: Beverly

Hi Bonnie,

I must beg to differ that most cats prefer to be the only!  I have
five male cats (aged fifteen years to six months) in our small
apartment and they are all best buds.  They rumble and tumble and
play, and curl up and sleep together when they get tired.  I don't
think any of them would do well as an only cat.  Most of my
friends and family also have multiple cats that are great friends.

It's all about the introduction - a slow, careful introduction of
a new cat to the resident cats can lead to a very happy
relationship.

Just my two cents.

Beverly


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Re: [Felvtalk] Cats not getting along

2010-12-19 Thread Natalie
We probably have the largest number of cats!  Everyone gets along because of
the way I introduce new ones.  There are a few cats who would love to be the
only cat, but have learned to co-exist.  They know each others' space and
respect it.  Once in a while, there's a little melee...nothing serious!
Some make individual friends, others make group friends..a few are loners.
They are so grateful to have a roof over their heads, a warm dry place to
crash and plenty of food - some don't even use the outdoor enclosure(s)
during the warm months!

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 5:00 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cats not getting along

Please remember that a group of people, especially siblings, argue.   
It is part of being individuals.  If they all got along together all  
the time and agreed on every thing their lives would be boring.
On Dec 19, 2010, at 12:14 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:

 Wow, Lorrie, good for you for taking in 14 felines!
 I often wonder how these cat colonies one reads about manage, for  
 I've never seen a totally peaceful group.  In my experience,  
 everyone finds their spot where they are comfortable and secure,  
 then that's it.  One furry body out of place and the whole bunch get  
 in a tizzy.  But, as I told my little clan this morning while it was  
 pouring rain outside, At least you guys are warm, dry, safe and  
 don't have to hunt for your next meal.  So it beats the alternative!
 ~Bonnie
 - Original Message - From: Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 8:11 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cats not getting along


 None of my cats sleep together either. They are affectionate with me,
 but not each other. They either ignore each other or have hiss, spit,
 yowling arguments along with a few well placed swats at each other.

 I wonder if this is because all 14 of my cats were rescues who all
 arrived here at different times. None of them were kittens who grew
 up together, tho some were kittens when I took them in. The kittens
 are accepted better by the others, and the most difficult cats to
 introduce are grown males who remain a threat to my other males even
 tho they've been neutered immediately.  Our house is large, and they
 have plenty of room, toys, climbing trees, cat condos as well as port
 holes to three outside enclosures.  You'd think this would make them
 happy, but the tension in our household is ongoing, unless all 14
 happen to be sleeping at the same time :-(

 Lorrie

 On 12-15, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
 Beverly
 Oh, how I long for a home like yours! I agree about the intro, and
 I've tried to do it right with everyone.  The most recent one was
 Lucky, and he's doing well and seems accepted by all. But there are
 tensions, especially between Stormy and the other girl, Miya Chan
 (she's a rehabilitated feral).  I think boy cats are mellower, more
 accepting.  I would love to see everyone curled up together on the
 couch or my bed, or playing together.  Sigh. Thanks for another
 perspective! Bonnie

 - Original Message - From: Beverly

 Hi Bonnie,
 
 I must beg to differ that most cats prefer to be the only!  I have
 five male cats (aged fifteen years to six months) in our small
 apartment and they are all best buds.  They rumble and tumble and
 play, and curl up and sleep together when they get tired.  I don't
 think any of them would do well as an only cat.  Most of my
 friends and family also have multiple cats that are great friends.
 
 It's all about the introduction - a slow, careful introduction of
 a new cat to the resident cats can lead to a very happy
 relationship.
 
 Just my two cents.
 
 Beverly

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Re: [Felvtalk] Cats not getting along

2010-12-19 Thread LauraM
I can handle a few spats. I can no longer handle the aggression displayed by 
one of my cats towards several of the others. It's so bad that I'm seriously 
considering  rehoming him into a single-cat household. Blizzard will literally 
try to kill Jet, Percy, Charlie and Tiger. They have to be kept separate at all 
times - Blizzard gets his time out and the other 4 have to be shut up in the 
bathroom. Bliz is fine with most everybody else, but in general dislikes other 
cats. Some nights I am woken up over and over again by fights and squabbling, 
and he is the instigator. I've had him for 2 years - I took him from somebody 
who was being evicted. It's always been a problem, but because he gets worked 
up and can attack people also (I have the scars to prove it) I've been 
reluctant to give him away. I'm afraid he'd tick somebody off and wind up in a 
shelter or thrown outside. If I can't find him a home I'll have to build him an 
outdoor enclosure. My house is
 small and he can't go into the spare room because I keep baby turtles there, 
and my positives are in the garage.





 
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2010-12-19 Thread Katy Doyle
Umm... I live 20 minutes from Lexington. I'm driving to Cincinnati area the 
evening of the 22nd. But that is as far as I can drive the cat.

Call if you want me to do that leg of the transport. 502-545-8025

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 19, 2010, at 4:05 PM, Dawn Bartholomew dba...@ptd.net wrote:

 My Buddy Cat died in September from FeLV.  I finally found another kitty that 
 I would like to adopt from a shelter from KY near Lexington.
 I live in PA.  Does anyone live near Lexington?  I would be willing to pay 
 for gas and an extra $100 if someone can drive half way (4-5 hours) and meet 
 me.
 I want to surprise my daughter and husband for Christmas.
 
 Dawn
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Re: [Felvtalk] Cats not getting along

2010-12-19 Thread dana giordano
Have you looked into homeopathy?I'm not learnt enough yet to do anything
than point out a possible area to look into.

My situation is my cats aggression ( sounds a lot like yours but not quite
as aggressive with me)  I can trace directly to the presence of the other
cats. She was the first cat. And she's upset I have allowed other cats here
in her space. Poor kitty. Was the cat that is aggressive the first cat
there?

I've only just started looking into it, and I have had very good responses
to hylands bioplasma which a couple of my cats will now eagerly eat out of
my hand,  It definitely calms the cats  (and me) - but I don't think it's
quite enough for an aggression issue like you describe and which I have at
my house, but it might be a start for the kitty household to lower
everyone's stress level.   I previously tried but haven't had  any luck at
all with bach remedies, if your interested in going that route - but maybe
you'll have better luck,

http://abchomeopathy.com/forum2.php/18757/  has a message post about halfway
down the page with a good overview and description of how to choose remedies
for cat aggression. I plan to use that as a starting point for one of my
cats who hates my semi-feral. I recommend googling the solution there which
fits best to make sure they stated  the correct information. And possibly
working with a homeopath, as this is a little confusing to sort out.

Unfortunately, that's all I know so far. Not much. yet. But maybe it will
start you off in a good direction.

Dana




On Sun, Dec 19, 2010 at 7:34 PM, LauraM hingebacktorto...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I can handle a few spats. I can no longer handle the aggression displayed
 by one of my cats towards several of the others. It's so bad that I'm
 seriously considering  rehoming him into a single-cat household. Blizzard
 will literally try to kill Jet, Percy, Charlie and Tiger. They have to be
 kept separate at all times - Blizzard gets his time out and the other 4 have
 to be shut up in the bathroom. Bliz is fine with most everybody else, but in
 general dislikes other cats. Some nights I am woken up over and over again
 by fights and squabbling, and he is the instigator. I've had him for 2 years
 - I took him from somebody who was being evicted. It's always been a
 problem, but because he gets worked up and can attack people also (I have
 the scars to prove it) I've been reluctant to give him away. I'm afraid he'd
 tick somebody off and wind up in a shelter or thrown outside. If I can't
 find him a home I'll have to build him an outdoor enclosure. My house is
  small and he can't go into the spare room because I keep baby turtles
 there, and my positives are in the garage.






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