Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+siamese mix to be euth in Austin, TX
hi Kelley -= thanks for writing! The volunteer was with Town Lake. However, my friends in CA connected me with some people from Austin Pet's Alive rescue team. I gave them his impound number - I'm still waiting for someone to call me. I thought they were very difficult to work with, too, glad it's not just my perception. It seems APA has success pulling these guys? She seemed to think they could help. Not sure about transfer, I am getting quotes now from pet transport services. any suggestion appreciated!! thanks SO much for writing Shannon --- On Fri, 1/21/11, Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote: From: Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+siamese mix to be euth in Austin, TX To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, January 21, 2011, 11:30 PM I live in Austin but this shelter is extremely hard to work with. Is the volunteer with APA? Will they take the cat and xfer to you? On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.comwrote: hi all - been talking to this volunteer all afternoon. I called this shelter and they won't work with me since I'm out of state. Been trying to help get this kitty pulledhere's Sherri's email to another group. Anyone in Austin on this list or know of any resources? Kitty only had two snaps, no IFA. I called and offer to pay for that but they won't do it. Obviously, I want to adopt locally, but when this came to my attention, I want to stop a pointless death...any networking ideas? thanks!! - Shannon in Chicago SHERI'S EMAIL: Hi all, I'm new to this group and I'm not accustomed to posting begging for help to save an animal but I am a volunteer with the local shelter and we are trying to get Azure out of the shelter as soon as possible. He was dropped off at the shelter stating that he had been diagnosed as being FeLv+. The shelter's policy is to euthanize these poor animals (We are not yet 100% no kill but hoping to be very soon). If we can get him adopted, then no euthanasia will be necessary. He is not sick nor does he demonstrate bad behavior so there is no reason he should be put down. Please see his video and information. Town Lake Animal Shelter requests any potential adopters to adopt in person. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqhg-rUnNYU http://www.petharbor.com/pet.asp?uaid=ASTN.A591900 Thanks for allowing me to post! Sherri sherri_dun...@hotmail.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] response to Laurie, let's keep the list supportive
It will sort itself out by me getting him tested, and determining if he's really positive, continuing to work with this lady, and networking with some local fosters who care for FeLV and could possibly take him, of which two are already aware. How does this smack of 'the writer not taking steps to help the kitty' as you said? If he's negative, it's a whole different story. The room had perches, toys, a tv, radio, and he had his own run outside, a large tall enclosure for warm months. I was shocked, happily shocked. you can see a different story was painted over the phone and it seemed desperate. There is a care taker for the ill relative that lives there 24/7 who I personally talked to who adores the kitty, and makes him chicken. A small part of me did feel taken for being led to believe it was dire. He has a full see through door so he can see the rest of the house. Who could not agree that a kitty mere hours away from having his life drained out of him is in more need of immediate focus. I am well aware of CW and many other organizations that I am in contact with - fosters, as well. These are all possibilities. I sincerely appreciate your suggestions, and take them to heart. I will not accept your judgement however. I'm sorry it's hard on you emotionally, from behind your keyboard, but I can assure you it has been likewise on me on the frontline. This should be a place for gentle support and compassion. We are all good people here doing the best we can. Case closed on this one. --- On Sat, 1/22/11, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 8:52 AM I no longer do rescue. I did offer to help this kitty financially, I think I suggested cat TV videos and I suggested CW shelter if he is positive. I also emailed privately a list member who lives in Chicago to ask what vet she goes to. It is hard on me emotionally to hear about kitties in need (from your earlier report this kitty lives alone in a room so frustrated that he masturbates- did he have toys? A window? Cat TV?) without the writer then taking steps to help the kitty. Curious how this will sort itself out without your intervention. Thanks for all you do. I think I just need to stop reading posts about cats in need. My best, L ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] response to Laurie, let's keep the list supportive
You have no idea what my life entails. I am on the frontline every day and have been for years. Those here who know me, know that. And I have no idea what your life entails. All I know is you cried SOS and I was pulled in (my responsibility, not yours). I appreciate your gentle support and compassion as I need it very much. I will bid adieu now. Seems best for all. Best wishes. Those of you who know me know how to find me. Those who I've supported financially should feel free to contact me privately. L Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!~Fyodor Dostoyevsky -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 9:32 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] response to Laurie, let's keep the list supportive It will sort itself out by me getting him tested, and determining if he's really positive, continuing to work with this lady, and networking with some local fosters who care for FeLV and could possibly take him, of which two are already aware. How does this smack of 'the writer not taking steps to help the kitty' as you said? If he's negative, it's a whole different story. The room had perches, toys, a tv, radio, and he had his own run outside, a large tall enclosure for warm months. I was shocked, happily shocked. you can see a different story was painted over the phone and it seemed desperate. There is a care taker for the ill relative that lives there 24/7 who I personally talked to who adores the kitty, and makes him chicken. A small part of me did feel taken for being led to believe it was dire. He has a full see through door so he can see the rest of the house. Who could not agree that a kitty mere hours away from having his life drained out of him is in more need of immediate focus. I am well aware of CW and many other organizations that I am in contact with - fosters, as well. These are all possibilities. I sincerely appreciate your suggestions, and take them to heart. I will not accept your judgement however. I'm sorry it's hard on you emotionally, from behind your keyboard, but I can assure you it has been likewise on me on the frontline. This should be a place for gentle support and compassion. We are all good people here doing the best we can. Case closed on this one. --- On Sat, 1/22/11, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 8:52 AM I no longer do rescue. I did offer to help this kitty financially, I think I suggested cat TV videos and I suggested CW shelter if he is positive. I also emailed privately a list member who lives in Chicago to ask what vet she goes to. It is hard on me emotionally to hear about kitties in need (from your earlier report this kitty lives alone in a room so frustrated that he masturbates- did he have toys? A window? Cat TV?) without the writer then taking steps to help the kitty. Curious how this will sort itself out without your intervention. Thanks for all you do. I think I just need to stop reading posts about cats in need. My best, L ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] response to Laurie, let's keep the list supportive
You have no idea what my life entails. exactly. That's why it was hurtful you passed judgement on me, when we're all on the same team. Thank you sincerely for all your care for the animals, Laurie. You've clearly made a huge difference in many lives. --- On Sat, 1/22/11, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] response to Laurie, let's keep the list supportive To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 9:46 AM You have no idea what my life entails. I am on the frontline every day and have been for years. Those here who know me, know that. And I have no idea what your life entails. All I know is you cried SOS and I was pulled in (my responsibility, not yours). I appreciate your gentle support and compassion as I need it very much. I will bid adieu now. Seems best for all. Best wishes. Those of you who know me know how to find me. Those who I've supported financially should feel free to contact me privately. L Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!~Fyodor Dostoyevsky -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 9:32 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] response to Laurie, let's keep the list supportive It will sort itself out by me getting him tested, and determining if he's really positive, continuing to work with this lady, and networking with some local fosters who care for FeLV and could possibly take him, of which two are already aware. How does this smack of 'the writer not taking steps to help the kitty' as you said? If he's negative, it's a whole different story. The room had perches, toys, a tv, radio, and he had his own run outside, a large tall enclosure for warm months. I was shocked, happily shocked. you can see a different story was painted over the phone and it seemed desperate. There is a care taker for the ill relative that lives there 24/7 who I personally talked to who adores the kitty, and makes him chicken. A small part of me did feel taken for being led to believe it was dire. He has a full see through door so he can see the rest of the house. Who could not agree that a kitty mere hours away from having his life drained out of him is in more need of immediate focus. I am well aware of CW and many other organizations that I am in contact with - fosters, as well. These are all possibilities. I sincerely appreciate your suggestions, and take them to heart. I will not accept your judgement however. I'm sorry it's hard on you emotionally, from behind your keyboard, but I can assure you it has been likewise on me on the frontline. This should be a place for gentle support and compassion. We are all good people here doing the best we can. Case closed on this one. --- On Sat, 1/22/11, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] opinions on strange situation(kitty to adopt) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 8:52 AM I no longer do rescue. I did offer to help this kitty financially, I think I suggested cat TV videos and I suggested CW shelter if he is positive. I also emailed privately a list member who lives in Chicago to ask what vet she goes to. It is hard on me emotionally to hear about kitties in need (from your earlier report this kitty lives alone in a room so frustrated that he masturbates- did he have toys? A window? Cat TV?) without the writer then taking steps to help the kitty. Curious how this will sort itself out without your intervention. Thanks for all you do. I think I just need to stop reading posts about cats in need. My best, L ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!~ http://www.quotiki.com/people/Fyodor-Dostoyevsky Fyodor Dostoyevsky ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] anyone try KLPP (probiotic)
does anyone use this for their FeLVs? It's a probiotic enzyme designed for horses, but a holistic vet/teacher mentioned that FeLVs and FIVs should be on it and it's superior to most commercially available products. thanks! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] anyone try KLPP (probiotic)
I use probiotics and CoQ10 for the FIV/FeLV cats -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Saturday, January 22, 2011 11:04 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] anyone try KLPP (probiotic) does anyone use this for their FeLVs? It's a probiotic enzyme designed for horses, but a holistic vet/teacher mentioned that FeLVs and FIVs should be on it and it's superior to most commercially available products. thanks! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Let's keep the post
At age 78 I still do rescue work, as I have for many years. I see some heartbreaking cases, which upset me terribly, and there are times when I wish I could just stop doing this, but I find it impossible to abandon the many cats out there who so desperately need help. I too get upset when I read about sad things that happen to cats, but for every sad story there is one with a happy ending... Rescue work is extremely stressful and this group is one of the few places where we can go for support. Lorrie On 01-22, Emeraldkittee wrote.. I sincerely appreciate your suggestions, and take them to heart. I will not accept your judgement however. I'm sorry it's hard on you emotionally, from behind your keyboard, but I can assure you it has been likewise on me on the frontline.? This should be a place for gentle support and compassion. We are all good people here doing the best we can.? Case closed on this one. ? -- On Sat, 1/22/11, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com Subject: Re: opinions on strange situation (kitty to adopt) To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, January 22, 2011, 8:52 AM I no longer do rescue. I did offer to help this kitty financially, I think I suggested cat TV videos and I suggested CW shelter if he is positive. I also emailed privately a list member who lives in Chicago to ask what vet she goes to. It is hard on me emotionally to hear about kitties in need (from your earlier report this kitty lives alone in a room so frustrated that he masturbates- did he have toys? A window? Cat TV?) without the writer then taking steps to help the kitty. Curious how this will sort itself out without your intervention. Thanks for all you do. I think I just need to stop reading posts about cats in need. My best, L ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] For Laurie
Laurie, As I said in my other e-mail, rescue work is extremely stressful and we are often on edge. You have been a huge help to everyone in this group.. Please stay with us. We need you. Lorrie On 01-22, Laurieskatz wrote: You have no idea what my life entails. I am on the frontline every day and have been for years. Those here who know me, know that. And I have no idea what your life entails. All I know is you cried SOS and I was pulled in (my responsibility, not yours). I appreciate your gentle support and compassion as I need it very much. I will bid adieu now. Seems best for all. Best wishes. Those of you who know me know how to find me. Those who I've supported financially should feel free to contact me privately. L Love animals: God has given them the rudiments of thought and joy untroubled. Do not trouble their joy, don't harass them, don't deprive them of their happiness, don't work against God's intent. Man, do not pride yourself on superiority to animals; they are without sin, and you, with your greatness, defile the earth by your appearance on it, and leave the traces of your foulness after you - alas, it is true of almost every one of us!~Fyodor Dostoyevsky ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+siamese mix to be euth in Austin, TX
Shannon, There is a really good transport company right here in Austin but they are NOT CHEAP. Let me know if you want the info. On Sat, Jan 22, 2011 at 7:05 AM, Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.comwrote: hi Kelley -= thanks for writing! The volunteer was with Town Lake. However, my friends in CA connected me with some people from Austin Pet's Alive rescue team. I gave them his impound number - I'm still waiting for someone to call me. I thought they were very difficult to work with, too, glad it's not just my perception. It seems APA has success pulling these guys? She seemed to think they could help. Not sure about transfer, I am getting quotes now from pet transport services. any suggestion appreciated!! thanks SO much for writing Shannon --- On Fri, 1/21/11, Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote: From: Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+siamese mix to be euth in Austin, TX To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, January 21, 2011, 11:30 PM I live in Austin but this shelter is extremely hard to work with. Is the volunteer with APA? Will they take the cat and xfer to you? On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 4:55 PM, Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com wrote: hi all - been talking to this volunteer all afternoon. I called this shelter and they won't work with me since I'm out of state. Been trying to help get this kitty pulledhere's Sherri's email to another group. Anyone in Austin on this list or know of any resources? Kitty only had two snaps, no IFA. I called and offer to pay for that but they won't do it. Obviously, I want to adopt locally, but when this came to my attention, I want to stop a pointless death...any networking ideas? thanks!! - Shannon in Chicago SHERI'S EMAIL: Hi all, I'm new to this group and I'm not accustomed to posting begging for help to save an animal but I am a volunteer with the local shelter and we are trying to get Azure out of the shelter as soon as possible. He was dropped off at the shelter stating that he had been diagnosed as being FeLv+. The shelter's policy is to euthanize these poor animals (We are not yet 100% no kill but hoping to be very soon). If we can get him adopted, then no euthanasia will be necessary. He is not sick nor does he demonstrate bad behavior so there is no reason he should be put down. Please see his video and information. Town Lake Animal Shelter requests any potential adopters to adopt in person. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqhg-rUnNYU http://www.petharbor.com/pet.asp?uaid=ASTN.A591900 Thanks for allowing me to post! Sherri sherri_dun...@hotmail.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue. - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] VET info for emeralkittee
From my friend - I don't usually go to Chicago for vet care. I am in the Burlington WI area so I know the vets here. Depending on what you're looking for, there are different options. For a cheaper vet that I think is very good (conventional medicine and doesn't know much about alternative,. she's fairly open about trying different things and she was the only vet I found that would do a blood transfusion for about $150.00).Her name is Brenda Long and she owns the Burlington Longview Vet Clinic. There is an alternative vet that does house calls in the area. She's good, but I'm not sure about her prices. It looks like the expenses mostly incurred are on labs. That's more difficult for a vet to control as they usually send the tests out. You need a vet that does them in house or a vet that doesn't need all the fancy tests and can do a bit of detective work clinically. I really would recommend Burlington Longview. Hope this helps. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
