Re: [Felvtalk] Oatmeal Creme Pie Please Add to the CLS :(
Rest in peace Oatmeal Creme Pie. Sometimes there isn't anything we can do to help these sweet babies. Sharyl --- On Thu, 2/3/11, Sherry DeHaan wrote: From: Sherry DeHaan Subject: [Felvtalk] Oatmeal Creme Pie Please Add to the CLS :( To: "Felvtalk" Date: Thursday, February 3, 2011, 11:02 PM OCP was a sweet snowshoe siamese boy.He had it rough since the day he first came to us,which was not too long ago.The disease was just too much for his little body to take. He was a very laid bad loving baby. Sherry "We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way" ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
Fingers crossed for a good outcome for you and Tweezer! Hang in there! ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: "Frank & Sue Koren" To: Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:29 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick I have an appointment with my favorite vet tomorrow to see what can be done for Tweezer. If he can still be made comfortable by anything I can do, then I will do everything I can for him. If there is nothing that can be done then it will be time to let him go with dignity. I can trust Dr. Tom to advise me correctly. Meanwhile I am a basket case. If Tweezer must crosst the bridge then a bright ray of sunshine will be leaving this world. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick I was giving her sub-q fluids for a while, which I assume helped her because she never had any seizures again. FIV is so much more manageable than FeLV! BTW - I sent the info to the dumb vet at the clinic so she would know for the next time someone brings in a cat that was FIV+, not to immediately make the diagnosis of the cat having grand mal seizures, DUH! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:34 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick I think emergency clinics have more then their share of idiots Maybe assist feeding would work for him. I will have to get a syringe. Did you do anything else besides feeding her to help her get rid of toxins? Sent from my iPad On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Natalie wrote: Years ago, one of my FIV cats had seizures; we rushed her to an emergency clinic, and they told me "you have a very sick kitty here", which made me livid, as if I were a total ignoramus.I later did some research and found out that cats with FeLV and FIV can build up toxins which can cause seizures. Maybe it would be a good idea to feed the cat with a syringeshould be no problem! Wrap in a towel, hold the head from underneath the jaw, and gently insert the syringe on the side of the mouth, slowly releasing the food (small amounts, allowing the cat to swallow). Would it help if you placed food in front, and then helped steady the cat's head? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:41 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick The problem is more with the spasms he is having then not eating. He is interested in food but is having a hard time eating it because of the shaking and jerking. They don't know what is causing it. They were thinking maybe value would help but are afraid it might not be good because of his being weak and immune compromised. Sent from my iPad On Feb 3, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Natalie wrote: Try ANYTHING - it's better than nothing. Sometimes, when they have an infection, they can't smell the food (and that's very important to cats), try taking some of the food, maybe diluted, and use a syringe or an eyedropper to put some of it into their mouth on the side, just to get the taste, they usually start eating! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick I'm so sorry that Tweezer isn't doing well. I don't really know what to do to encourage him to eat - maybe try his favorite food, I sometimes use tuna or mackerel (supplemented with Nutri-Cal so the cat gets all their viatamins). For cats, the smellier the food, the better. I hope that helps! ---Katy On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Frank & Sue Koren wrote: Tweezer was to the vet yesterday. His RBC is 17 and he has a secondary infection. He is also having spasms which is the worst because he is frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink. He is on Prednesolone and Clavamox for now. What can I do to help him? I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one didn't. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __
Re: [Felvtalk] Oatmeal Creme Pie Please Add to the CLS :(
Sherry, my condolences on the loss of your sweetie, Oatmeal Creme Pie. As you know, he is out of the suffering now. May your heart be warmed by the love and friendship you two shared. Peace, ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: "Sherry DeHaan" To: "Felvtalk" Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 8:02 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Oatmeal Creme Pie Please Add to the CLS :( OCP was a sweet snowshoe siamese boy.He had it rough since the day he first came to us,which was not too long ago.The disease was just too much for his little body to take. He was a very laid bad loving baby. Sherry "We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way" ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Oatmeal Creme Pie Please Add to the CLS :(
OCP was a sweet snowshoe siamese boy.He had it rough since the day he first came to us,which was not too long ago.The disease was just too much for his little body to take. He was a very laid bad loving baby. Sherry "We who choose to surround ourselves with lives more temporary than our own, Live within a fragile circle,easily and often breached. Unable to accept its awful gaps. We still would have it no other way" ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
Don't let him go unless you know he is suffering - he may get better with some fluids; does you vet give Vitamin injections? Mine makes a combo of C, B12 etc. and it has save many sick cats and put them onto the road to feeling a lot better! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Frank & Sue Koren Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 6:30 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick I have an appointment with my favorite vet tomorrow to see what can be done for Tweezer. If he can still be made comfortable by anything I can do, then I will do everything I can for him. If there is nothing that can be done then it will be time to let him go with dignity. I can trust Dr. Tom to advise me correctly. Meanwhile I am a basket case. If Tweezer must crosst the bridge then a bright ray of sunshine will be leaving this world. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick I was giving her sub-q fluids for a while, which I assume helped her because she never had any seizures again. FIV is so much more manageable than FeLV! BTW - I sent the info to the dumb vet at the clinic so she would know for the next time someone brings in a cat that was FIV+, not to immediately make the diagnosis of the cat having grand mal seizures, DUH! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:34 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick I think emergency clinics have more then their share of idiots Maybe assist feeding would work for him. I will have to get a syringe. Did you do anything else besides feeding her to help her get rid of toxins? Sent from my iPad On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Natalie wrote: > Years ago, one of my FIV cats had seizures; we rushed her to an emergency > clinic, and they told me "you have a very sick kitty here", which made me > livid, as if I were a total ignoramus.I later did some research and > found out that cats with FeLV and FIV can build up toxins which can cause > seizures. > Maybe it would be a good idea to feed the cat with a syringeshould be no > problem! Wrap in a towel, hold the head from underneath the jaw, and > gently insert the syringe on the side of the mouth, slowly releasing the > food (small amounts, allowing the cat to swallow). Would it help if you > placed food in front, and then helped steady the cat's head? > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:41 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick > > The problem is more with the spasms he is having then not eating. He is > interested in food but is having a hard time eating it because of the > shaking and jerking. They don't know what is causing it. They were thinking > maybe value would help but are afraid it might not be good because of his > being weak and immune compromised. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Feb 3, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Natalie wrote: > >> Try ANYTHING - it's better than nothing. Sometimes, when they have an >> infection, they can't smell the food (and that's very important to cats), >> try taking some of the food, maybe diluted, and use a syringe or an >> eyedropper to put some of it into their mouth on the side, just to get the >> taste, they usually start eating! >> >> -Original Message- >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle >> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:51 PM >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick >> >> I'm so sorry that Tweezer isn't doing well. I don't really know what to do >> to encourage him to eat - maybe try his favorite food, I sometimes use >> tuna or mackerel (supplemented with Nutri-Cal so the cat gets all their >> viatamins). For cats, the smellier the food, the better. >> >> I hope that helps! >> ---Katy >> >> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Frank & Sue Koren >> wrote: >> >>> Tweezer was to the vet yesterday. His RBC is 17 and he has a secondary >>> infection. He is also having spasms which is the worst because he is >>> frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink. He is on >>> Prednesolone and Clavamox for now. What can I do to help him? >>> >>> I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one didn't. >>> >>> ___ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://f
Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
Tweezer was the name the rescue group that had him gave him. I liked the name and it fit him so we kept it. I don't know if links from the cat forum I am part of will work here, but I will try. This tells the story of how I came to have him and of his first few weeks at home: http://www.catforum.com/forum/36-cat-chat/117922-cat-cage.html http://www.catforum.com/forum/36-cat-chat/119042-tweezer-after-5-1-2-weeks.h tml -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Mike Finch Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 7:35 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick Sue, I'm praying for you and Tweezer. Pllleeeaaassee tell me about that name! :D Mike ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
Sue, I'm praying for you and Tweezer. Pllleeeaaassee tell me about that name! :D Mike ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
That bright ray of sunshine will be shining on you and loving you. Tweezer knows all that you have done for him and trusts you to make the right decisions. He will always be in your life and heart...just in a different form. This does not take away the pain, the awful pain but it may change that pain. Try to focus on the time you have together and enjoy each other. Some of the most memorable minutes I had with Ebony were in the hours before he left this world. Try to focus...through the heartache. On Feb 3, 2011, at 5:29 PM, Frank & Sue Koren wrote: I have an appointment with my favorite vet tomorrow to see what can be done for Tweezer. If he can still be made comfortable by anything I can do, then I will do everything I can for him. If there is nothing that can be done then it will be time to let him go with dignity. I can trust Dr. Tom to advise me correctly. Meanwhile I am a basket case. If Tweezer must crosst the bridge then a bright ray of sunshine will be leaving this world. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick I was giving her sub-q fluids for a while, which I assume helped her because she never had any seizures again. FIV is so much more manageable than FeLV! BTW - I sent the info to the dumb vet at the clinic so she would know for the next time someone brings in a cat that was FIV+, not to immediately make the diagnosis of the cat having grand mal seizures, DUH! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:34 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick I think emergency clinics have more then their share of idiots Maybe assist feeding would work for him. I will have to get a syringe. Did you do anything else besides feeding her to help her get rid of toxins? Sent from my iPad On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Natalie wrote: Years ago, one of my FIV cats had seizures; we rushed her to an emergency clinic, and they told me "you have a very sick kitty here", which made me livid, as if I were a total ignoramus.I later did some research and found out that cats with FeLV and FIV can build up toxins which can cause seizures. Maybe it would be a good idea to feed the cat with a syringeshould be no problem! Wrap in a towel, hold the head from underneath the jaw, and gently insert the syringe on the side of the mouth, slowly releasing the food (small amounts, allowing the cat to swallow). Would it help if you placed food in front, and then helped steady the cat's head? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:41 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick The problem is more with the spasms he is having then not eating. He is interested in food but is having a hard time eating it because of the shaking and jerking. They don't know what is causing it. They were thinking maybe value would help but are afraid it might not be good because of his being weak and immune compromised. Sent from my iPad On Feb 3, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Natalie wrote: Try ANYTHING - it's better than nothing. Sometimes, when they have an infection, they can't smell the food (and that's very important to cats), try taking some of the food, maybe diluted, and use a syringe or an eyedropper to put some of it into their mouth on the side, just to get the taste, they usually start eating! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick I'm so sorry that Tweezer isn't doing well. I don't really know what to do to encourage him to eat - maybe try his favorite food, I sometimes use tuna or mackerel (supplemented with Nutri-Cal so the cat gets all their viatamins). For cats, the smellier the food, the better. I hope that helps! ---Katy On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Frank & Sue Koren wrote: Tweezer was to the vet yesterday. His RBC is 17 and he has a secondary infection. He is also having spasms which is the worst because he is frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink. He is on Prednesolone and Clavamox for now. What can I do to help him? I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one didn't. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailm
Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
I have an appointment with my favorite vet tomorrow to see what can be done for Tweezer. If he can still be made comfortable by anything I can do, then I will do everything I can for him. If there is nothing that can be done then it will be time to let him go with dignity. I can trust Dr. Tom to advise me correctly. Meanwhile I am a basket case. If Tweezer must crosst the bridge then a bright ray of sunshine will be leaving this world. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:50 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick I was giving her sub-q fluids for a while, which I assume helped her because she never had any seizures again. FIV is so much more manageable than FeLV! BTW - I sent the info to the dumb vet at the clinic so she would know for the next time someone brings in a cat that was FIV+, not to immediately make the diagnosis of the cat having grand mal seizures, DUH! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:34 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick I think emergency clinics have more then their share of idiots Maybe assist feeding would work for him. I will have to get a syringe. Did you do anything else besides feeding her to help her get rid of toxins? Sent from my iPad On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Natalie wrote: > Years ago, one of my FIV cats had seizures; we rushed her to an emergency > clinic, and they told me "you have a very sick kitty here", which made me > livid, as if I were a total ignoramus.I later did some research and > found out that cats with FeLV and FIV can build up toxins which can cause > seizures. > Maybe it would be a good idea to feed the cat with a syringeshould be no > problem! Wrap in a towel, hold the head from underneath the jaw, and > gently insert the syringe on the side of the mouth, slowly releasing the > food (small amounts, allowing the cat to swallow). Would it help if you > placed food in front, and then helped steady the cat's head? > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:41 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick > > The problem is more with the spasms he is having then not eating. He is > interested in food but is having a hard time eating it because of the > shaking and jerking. They don't know what is causing it. They were thinking > maybe value would help but are afraid it might not be good because of his > being weak and immune compromised. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Feb 3, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Natalie wrote: > >> Try ANYTHING - it's better than nothing. Sometimes, when they have an >> infection, they can't smell the food (and that's very important to cats), >> try taking some of the food, maybe diluted, and use a syringe or an >> eyedropper to put some of it into their mouth on the side, just to get the >> taste, they usually start eating! >> >> -Original Message- >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle >> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:51 PM >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick >> >> I'm so sorry that Tweezer isn't doing well. I don't really know what to do >> to encourage him to eat - maybe try his favorite food, I sometimes use >> tuna or mackerel (supplemented with Nutri-Cal so the cat gets all their >> viatamins). For cats, the smellier the food, the better. >> >> I hope that helps! >> ---Katy >> >> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Frank & Sue Koren >> wrote: >> >>> Tweezer was to the vet yesterday. His RBC is 17 and he has a secondary >>> infection. He is also having spasms which is the worst because he is >>> frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink. He is on >>> Prednesolone and Clavamox for now. What can I do to help him? >>> >>> I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one didn't. >>> >>> ___ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mail
Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
I was giving her sub-q fluids for a while, which I assume helped her because she never had any seizures again. FIV is so much more manageable than FeLV! BTW - I sent the info to the dumb vet at the clinic so she would know for the next time someone brings in a cat that was FIV+, not to immediately make the diagnosis of the cat having grand mal seizures, DUH! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 3:34 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick I think emergency clinics have more then their share of idiots Maybe assist feeding would work for him. I will have to get a syringe. Did you do anything else besides feeding her to help her get rid of toxins? Sent from my iPad On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Natalie wrote: > Years ago, one of my FIV cats had seizures; we rushed her to an emergency > clinic, and they told me "you have a very sick kitty here", which made me > livid, as if I were a total ignoramus.I later did some research and > found out that cats with FeLV and FIV can build up toxins which can cause > seizures. > Maybe it would be a good idea to feed the cat with a syringeshould be no > problem! Wrap in a towel, hold the head from underneath the jaw, and > gently insert the syringe on the side of the mouth, slowly releasing the > food (small amounts, allowing the cat to swallow). Would it help if you > placed food in front, and then helped steady the cat's head? > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:41 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick > > The problem is more with the spasms he is having then not eating. He is > interested in food but is having a hard time eating it because of the > shaking and jerking. They don't know what is causing it. They were thinking > maybe value would help but are afraid it might not be good because of his > being weak and immune compromised. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Feb 3, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Natalie wrote: > >> Try ANYTHING - it's better than nothing. Sometimes, when they have an >> infection, they can't smell the food (and that's very important to cats), >> try taking some of the food, maybe diluted, and use a syringe or an >> eyedropper to put some of it into their mouth on the side, just to get the >> taste, they usually start eating! >> >> -Original Message- >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle >> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:51 PM >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick >> >> I'm so sorry that Tweezer isn't doing well. I don't really know what to do >> to encourage him to eat - maybe try his favorite food, I sometimes use >> tuna or mackerel (supplemented with Nutri-Cal so the cat gets all their >> viatamins). For cats, the smellier the food, the better. >> >> I hope that helps! >> ---Katy >> >> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Frank & Sue Koren >> wrote: >> >>> Tweezer was to the vet yesterday. His RBC is 17 and he has a secondary >>> infection. He is also having spasms which is the worst because he is >>> frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink. He is on >>> Prednesolone and Clavamox for now. What can I do to help him? >>> >>> I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one didn't. >>> >>> ___ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
I think emergency clinics have more then their share of idiots Maybe assist feeding would work for him. I will have to get a syringe. Did you do anything else besides feeding her to help her get rid of toxins? Sent from my iPad On Feb 3, 2011, at 3:18 PM, Natalie wrote: > Years ago, one of my FIV cats had seizures; we rushed her to an emergency > clinic, and they told me "you have a very sick kitty here", which made me > livid, as if I were a total ignoramus.I later did some research and > found out that cats with FeLV and FIV can build up toxins which can cause > seizures. > Maybe it would be a good idea to feed the cat with a syringeshould be no > problem! Wrap in a towel, hold the head from underneath the jaw, and > gently insert the syringe on the side of the mouth, slowly releasing the > food (small amounts, allowing the cat to swallow). Would it help if you > placed food in front, and then helped steady the cat's head? > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:41 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick > > The problem is more with the spasms he is having then not eating. He is > interested in food but is having a hard time eating it because of the > shaking and jerking. They don't know what is causing it. They were thinking > maybe value would help but are afraid it might not be good because of his > being weak and immune compromised. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Feb 3, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Natalie wrote: > >> Try ANYTHING - it's better than nothing. Sometimes, when they have an >> infection, they can't smell the food (and that's very important to cats), >> try taking some of the food, maybe diluted, and use a syringe or an >> eyedropper to put some of it into their mouth on the side, just to get the >> taste, they usually start eating! >> >> -Original Message- >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle >> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:51 PM >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick >> >> I'm so sorry that Tweezer isn't doing well. I don't really know what to do >> to encourage him to eat - maybe try his favorite food, I sometimes use >> tuna or mackerel (supplemented with Nutri-Cal so the cat gets all their >> viatamins). For cats, the smellier the food, the better. >> >> I hope that helps! >> ---Katy >> >> On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Frank & Sue Koren >> wrote: >> >>> Tweezer was to the vet yesterday. His RBC is 17 and he has a secondary >>> infection. He is also having spasms which is the worst because he is >>> frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink. He is on >>> Prednesolone and Clavamox for now. What can I do to help him? >>> >>> I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one didn't. >>> >>> ___ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
Years ago, one of my FIV cats had seizures; we rushed her to an emergency clinic, and they told me "you have a very sick kitty here", which made me livid, as if I were a total ignoramus.I later did some research and found out that cats with FeLV and FIV can build up toxins which can cause seizures. Maybe it would be a good idea to feed the cat with a syringeshould be no problem! Wrap in a towel, hold the head from underneath the jaw, and gently insert the syringe on the side of the mouth, slowly releasing the food (small amounts, allowing the cat to swallow). Would it help if you placed food in front, and then helped steady the cat's head? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Koren Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:41 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick The problem is more with the spasms he is having then not eating. He is interested in food but is having a hard time eating it because of the shaking and jerking. They don't know what is causing it. They were thinking maybe value would help but are afraid it might not be good because of his being weak and immune compromised. Sent from my iPad On Feb 3, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Natalie wrote: > Try ANYTHING - it's better than nothing. Sometimes, when they have an > infection, they can't smell the food (and that's very important to cats), > try taking some of the food, maybe diluted, and use a syringe or an > eyedropper to put some of it into their mouth on the side, just to get the > taste, they usually start eating! > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:51 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick > > I'm so sorry that Tweezer isn't doing well. I don't really know what to do > to encourage him to eat - maybe try his favorite food, I sometimes use > tuna or mackerel (supplemented with Nutri-Cal so the cat gets all their > viatamins). For cats, the smellier the food, the better. > > I hope that helps! > ---Katy > > On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Frank & Sue Koren > wrote: > >> Tweezer was to the vet yesterday. His RBC is 17 and he has a secondary >> infection. He is also having spasms which is the worst because he is >> frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink. He is on >> Prednesolone and Clavamox for now. What can I do to help him? >> >> I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one didn't. >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
The problem is more with the spasms he is having then not eating. He is interested in food but is having a hard time eating it because of the shaking and jerking. They don't know what is causing it. They were thinking maybe value would help but are afraid it might not be good because of his being weak and immune compromised. Sent from my iPad On Feb 3, 2011, at 2:07 PM, Natalie wrote: > Try ANYTHING - it's better than nothing. Sometimes, when they have an > infection, they can't smell the food (and that's very important to cats), > try taking some of the food, maybe diluted, and use a syringe or an > eyedropper to put some of it into their mouth on the side, just to get the > taste, they usually start eating! > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:51 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick > > I'm so sorry that Tweezer isn't doing well. I don't really know what to do > to encourage him to eat - maybe try his favorite food, I sometimes use > tuna or mackerel (supplemented with Nutri-Cal so the cat gets all their > viatamins). For cats, the smellier the food, the better. > > I hope that helps! > ---Katy > > On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Frank & Sue Koren > wrote: > >> Tweezer was to the vet yesterday. His RBC is 17 and he has a secondary >> infection. He is also having spasms which is the worst because he is >> frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink. He is on >> Prednesolone and Clavamox for now. What can I do to help him? >> >> I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one didn't. >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
Try ANYTHING - it's better than nothing. Sometimes, when they have an infection, they can't smell the food (and that's very important to cats), try taking some of the food, maybe diluted, and use a syringe or an eyedropper to put some of it into their mouth on the side, just to get the taste, they usually start eating! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 12:51 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick I'm so sorry that Tweezer isn't doing well. I don't really know what to do to encourage him to eat - maybe try his favorite food, I sometimes use tuna or mackerel (supplemented with Nutri-Cal so the cat gets all their viatamins). For cats, the smellier the food, the better. I hope that helps! ---Katy On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Frank & Sue Koren wrote: > Tweezer was to the vet yesterday. His RBC is 17 and he has a secondary > infection. He is also having spasms which is the worst because he is > frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink. He is on > Prednesolone and Clavamox for now. What can I do to help him? > > I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one didn't. > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ 7 mo Kitten--Test Protocols & Nutritional Support, Meds, to boost Immunity?
I feed my cats Blue Buffalo (it's the only food I've tried that doesn't make my cats vomit) and I put a little Nutri-Cal on their paw one per week. My cats are healthy right now, aside from testing positive, so I haven't gotten into all the other supplements that everyone else uses. On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 8:32 AM, Natalie wrote: > Good supplements with Vitamin C, Biotin (Nickers), and CoQ10 in powder in > capsules (GNC Vegetarian formula) - regular oil in capsules hard to squeeze > out all oil from capsules.I give all FIV/FeLV and heart patients 50mg > daily. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of M C > Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:06 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ 7 mo Kitten--Test Protocols & Nutritional > Support, > Meds, to boost Immunity? > > Dear Kitty Lovers, > > One of my rescued kittens rested positive for leukemia. She was tested at 4 > mos, > 5 mos, then 7 mos-- all positive on the ELISA. My vet says if she retests > positive on the ELISA in 2 mos, she's definitely positive. Others say we > need to > do the IFA to get the more accurate results. She looks healthy, but still > small > for her age, she recently had a mild cold which went away w/Amoxi dosge. > > At this point, the chances of her fighting off a FeLV infection are not > great, > right? With that said, if anyone has nutritional supplements, food > recommendations, and other ideas on how to provide her with the best > immunity > support/boosts, please let us know! > > I keep hearing about Interferon, but I don't know anyone else w/a felv > kitten or > cat, so any advice would be appreciated! My vet is relatively new to this > disease, he only sees the kitties w/feLV when its really gotten bad... > > Thanks, > > Sara > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
I'm so sorry that Tweezer isn't doing well. I don't really know what to do to encourage him to eat - maybe try his favorite food, I sometimes use tuna or mackerel (supplemented with Nutri-Cal so the cat gets all their viatamins). For cats, the smellier the food, the better. I hope that helps! ---Katy On Thu, Feb 3, 2011 at 7:19 AM, Frank & Sue Koren wrote: > Tweezer was to the vet yesterday. His RBC is 17 and he has a secondary > infection. He is also having spasms which is the worst because he is > frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink. He is on > Prednesolone and Clavamox for now. What can I do to help him? > > I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one didn't. > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ 7 mo Kitten--Test Protocols & Nutritional Support, Meds, to boost Immunity?
Good supplements with Vitamin C, Biotin (Nickers), and CoQ10 in powder in capsules (GNC Vegetarian formula) - regular oil in capsules hard to squeeze out all oil from capsules.I give all FIV/FeLV and heart patients 50mg daily. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of M C Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 2:06 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ 7 mo Kitten--Test Protocols & Nutritional Support, Meds, to boost Immunity? Dear Kitty Lovers, One of my rescued kittens rested positive for leukemia. She was tested at 4 mos, 5 mos, then 7 mos-- all positive on the ELISA. My vet says if she retests positive on the ELISA in 2 mos, she's definitely positive. Others say we need to do the IFA to get the more accurate results. She looks healthy, but still small for her age, she recently had a mild cold which went away w/Amoxi dosge. At this point, the chances of her fighting off a FeLV infection are not great, right? With that said, if anyone has nutritional supplements, food recommendations, and other ideas on how to provide her with the best immunity support/boosts, please let us know! I keep hearing about Interferon, but I don't know anyone else w/a felv kitten or cat, so any advice would be appreciated! My vet is relatively new to this disease, he only sees the kitties w/feLV when its really gotten bad... Thanks, Sara ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] HELP! Tweezer is sick
Tweezer was to the vet yesterday. His RBC is 17 and he has a secondary infection. He is also having spasms which is the worst because he is frightened and it makes it harder for him to eat and drink. He is on Prednesolone and Clavamox for now. What can I do to help him? I hope this message gets through to the list because my last one didn't. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org