Re: [Felvtalk] Being blunt

[Gloria Lane]

I love it! Hood for you.  Can't believe shed leave horses in the sun and heat.

Gloria

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On Aug 23, 2011, at 9:48 PM, Marcia Baronda  wrote:

> Really.eat in the truck.
> 
> On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 6:30 PM, katskat1  wrote:
> I will be 63 next month and I have been telling people off about
> animals for several years now.
> 
> Just did it yesterday to a woman who took her 4H'rs into McDonalds for
> a relaxed, air-conditioned treat while FIVE horses sat in direct sun
> in an enclosed trailer.  One of the horses was neighing and kicking so
> hard the trailer was rocking.  I went inside and found her, told her
> one of the horses was distressed and I felt she shouldn't have left
> them in the direct sun while they trooped inside to eat.  She told me
> she was trying to get the girls out but they weren't finished eating
> yet.  I told her that is why it is called fast food.  She could order
> the food and they can eat in the truck.  Suffer - your horses are!
> 
> She seemed to be a bit miffed at me!  Said very un-4H-like words!
> 
> Sigh.
> 
> Tee hee.
> 
> Wonder what I'll be like at 80?
> 
> kat
> 
> On 8/23/11, Lorrie  wrote:
> > On 08-23, Marcia Baronda wrote:
> >>You  know  what?  I'm getting that way too!  It must be getting older.
> >>Ya  know,  I know this sounds really crazy, but I kind of like getting
> >>older, there ARE perks.
> >
> > Yes, that's one of the few good things about getting old!
> > I'm 78 now and I tell people exactly what I think of them
> > if they are irresponsible or unkind to animals.
> >
> > Lorrie
> >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Being blunt

[Marcia Baronda]

Really.eat in the truck.

On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 6:30 PM, katskat1  wrote:

> I will be 63 next month and I have been telling people off about
> animals for several years now.
>
> Just did it yesterday to a woman who took her 4H'rs into McDonalds for
> a relaxed, air-conditioned treat while FIVE horses sat in direct sun
> in an enclosed trailer.  One of the horses was neighing and kicking so
> hard the trailer was rocking.  I went inside and found her, told her
> one of the horses was distressed and I felt she shouldn't have left
> them in the direct sun while they trooped inside to eat.  She told me
> she was trying to get the girls out but they weren't finished eating
> yet.  I told her that is why it is called fast food.  She could order
> the food and they can eat in the truck.  Suffer - your horses are!
>
> She seemed to be a bit miffed at me!  Said very un-4H-like words!
>
> Sigh.
>
> Tee hee.
>
> Wonder what I'll be like at 80?
>
> kat
>
> On 8/23/11, Lorrie  wrote:
> > On 08-23, Marcia Baronda wrote:
> >>You  know  what?  I'm getting that way too!  It must be getting
> older.
> >>Ya  know,  I know this sounds really crazy, but I kind of like
> getting
> >>older, there ARE perks.
> >
> > Yes, that's one of the few good things about getting old!
> > I'm 78 now and I tell people exactly what I think of them
> > if they are irresponsible or unkind to animals.
> >
> > Lorrie
> >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Being blunt

[Marcia Baronda]

tsk tsk to her for those un 4H words and GOOD FOR YOU for speaking for the
horses! On the local news one day they showed a cattle truck that had
overturned on the turnpike in Topeka. They wer bulldozing those cattle off
the road. They were crying and a lot of them had been severely injured. I
was so Pd that I could not sit down as I called the station and told
them what I thought. they ask if I was mad that they showed that. I said no,
I was glad I got to see what goes on, what happens to animals who are hurt.
they are bulldozed. I could not believe my eyes. than I promptly e=mailed
KDOT and told them what I thought. Apparently I wasn't the only one. There
was an apology on the newscast that night and a promise to have a
veterinarian present if it happened again. Livestock does not fall under the
Animal welfare Act, which is a crying shame.

On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 6:30 PM, katskat1  wrote:

> I will be 63 next month and I have been telling people off about
> animals for several years now.
>
> Just did it yesterday to a woman who took her 4H'rs into McDonalds for
> a relaxed, air-conditioned treat while FIVE horses sat in direct sun
> in an enclosed trailer.  One of the horses was neighing and kicking so
> hard the trailer was rocking.  I went inside and found her, told her
> one of the horses was distressed and I felt she shouldn't have left
> them in the direct sun while they trooped inside to eat.  She told me
> she was trying to get the girls out but they weren't finished eating
> yet.  I told her that is why it is called fast food.  She could order
> the food and they can eat in the truck.  Suffer - your horses are!
>
> She seemed to be a bit miffed at me!  Said very un-4H-like words!
>
> Sigh.
>
> Tee hee.
>
> Wonder what I'll be like at 80?
>
> kat
>
> On 8/23/11, Lorrie  wrote:
> > On 08-23, Marcia Baronda wrote:
> >>You  know  what?  I'm getting that way too!  It must be getting
> older.
> >>Ya  know,  I know this sounds really crazy, but I kind of like
> getting
> >>older, there ARE perks.
> >
> > Yes, that's one of the few good things about getting old!
> > I'm 78 now and I tell people exactly what I think of them
> > if they are irresponsible or unkind to animals.
> >
> > Lorrie
> >
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Re: [Felvtalk] Being blunt

[katskat1]

I will be 63 next month and I have been telling people off about
animals for several years now.

Just did it yesterday to a woman who took her 4H'rs into McDonalds for
a relaxed, air-conditioned treat while FIVE horses sat in direct sun
in an enclosed trailer.  One of the horses was neighing and kicking so
hard the trailer was rocking.  I went inside and found her, told her
one of the horses was distressed and I felt she shouldn't have left
them in the direct sun while they trooped inside to eat.  She told me
she was trying to get the girls out but they weren't finished eating
yet.  I told her that is why it is called fast food.  She could order
the food and they can eat in the truck.  Suffer - your horses are!

She seemed to be a bit miffed at me!  Said very un-4H-like words!

Sigh.

Tee hee.

Wonder what I'll be like at 80?

kat

On 8/23/11, Lorrie  wrote:
> On 08-23, Marcia Baronda wrote:
>>You  know  what?  I'm getting that way too!  It must be getting older.
>>Ya  know,  I know this sounds really crazy, but I kind of like getting
>>older, there ARE perks.
>
> Yes, that's one of the few good things about getting old!
> I'm 78 now and I tell people exactly what I think of them
> if they are irresponsible or unkind to animals.
>
> Lorrie
>
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Re: [Felvtalk] The older I get.........

[Marcia Baronda]

you guys are making me laugh!!!

On Tue, Aug 23, 2011 at 4:34 PM, Lorrie  wrote:

> Right on Maureen.. I don't mince words with people
> anymore.  I tell it like it is.
>
> Lorrie
>
> On 08-23, Maureen Olvey wrote:
> >The  older  I  get  the  less  I  feel the need to be tactful.  That's
> >probably  good  and bad.  Good for me cause I don't hold things in and
> >don't let people get to me as much.  Bad for them because they have to
> >put up with me and my bluntness.  I am a little worse when it comes to
> >animals though.  I'll tell someone off in a heartbeat.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Being blunt

[Lorrie]

On 08-23, Marcia Baronda wrote:
>You  know  what?  I'm getting that way too!  It must be getting older.
>Ya  know,  I know this sounds really crazy, but I kind of like getting
>older, there ARE perks.

Yes, that's one of the few good things about getting old!
I'm 78 now and I tell people exactly what I think of them
if they are irresponsible or unkind to animals.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Turning 80

[Lorrie]

On 08-23, Natalie wrote:
>YES - age is great!
> 
>I  can  hardly wait to be 80 and more, then I'll really be able
>to get away with more, like Sophia on Golden Girls

I've got two more years before I turn 80, but I'm not waiting 
I'm already telling people exactly what I think!

Lorrie


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Re: [Felvtalk] The older I get.........

[Lorrie]

Right on Maureen.. I don't mince words with people
anymore.  I tell it like it is.

Lorrie

On 08-23, Maureen Olvey wrote:
>The  older  I  get  the  less  I  feel the need to be tactful.  That's
>probably  good  and bad.  Good for me cause I don't hold things in and
>don't let people get to me as much.  Bad for them because they have to
>put up with me and my bluntness.  I am a little worse when it comes to
>animals though.  I'll tell someone off in a heartbeat.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Cat friends

[Lorrie]

On 08-22, Marcia Baronda wrote:
>Hi Lynda
> 
>I  think,  well  I  know I am dealing with a very young vet, but he is
>concerned  and that is good. When I asked today when to bring the cats
>back  he  Said in a year. The receptionist told me when I got ready to
>leave to come back in a month. If you say three weeks than I will take
>them  back  in  three weeks! Thank you very much, I feel like I have a
>bunch new caring friends (-:

I think most of us feel like the people we meet on this group are
the best friends ever.  It's wonderful to have friends who
understand our love for cats.

Lorrie


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Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed

[Lynda Wilson]

That's great news! "One day at a time" is right!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marcia Baronda 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 2:41 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed


  Hi everyone
  Well, I just got back from the vet and Alvin (appropriatly named at 
Christmastime by my grandson) tested negative!  I'm so happy today, even though 
I'm not clear out of the woods...One Day at a Time.


  On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Christiane Biagi  
wrote:

There are many stories on this board of cats who are pos living to a ripe 
old age.  However, they are very susceptible to infections and to lymphomas, 
for example.  Had my Romeo who was a stray I brought in from the street & he 
died very quickly from lymphoma years after.  Basically, it seems the best you 
can do for these little ones is good food, lots of good care, and love.  I do 
not give interferon though a couple of times Tucson has had a very low white 
blood cell count & my vet used a series of immune regulin injections on her & 
count bounced back up.  I probably run her to the vet faster than I might the 
other cats just so as not to miss any infection brewing.  I had a senior blood 
panel done on her this year & everything was good.  But I know that things 
happen quickly and I enjoy her every day (well, almost every day! LOL) and hope 
for the best.



As for the other cats, they had spent years together—sharing dishes, 
grooming each other, using the same litter boxes, and occasionally getting into 
little scuffles.  They all tested neg & I just don’t think its quite as 
contagious as some of the literature  (& some vets) make it out to be.  





From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 10:05 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed



Christiane



That is wonderful! I keep hearing a lot of stories filled with hope. I keep 
telling Fletch he can kickthis and he growls at me(-: He's a stinker!!  I had 
my two vaccinated today and the third one is going to the vet tomorrow. I hope 
he is negative also.



Thanks so much for sharing.

Take care

Marcia

On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Christiane Biagi  
wrote:

My Tucson is 13 & was found pos when she was 4.  She had tested neg as
kitten but was never outside so vets were sure she was pos from birth.  She
lives with my other cats all of whom were around her for 3-4 years before I
found her to be pos.  She's still going strong and none of the other cats
tested pos.  I vaccinated the others.

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:04 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed

Hi everyone!  My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a
million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every
hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been
vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the
vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep
my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I would
carry something in!
Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can
feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink
ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain.
Thanks so much for being here.

Marcia
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Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed

[Marcia Baronda]

Hi everyone
Well, I just got back from the vet and Alvin (appropriatly named at
Christmastime by my grandson) tested negative!  I'm so happy today, even
though I'm not clear out of the woods...One Day at a Time.

On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Christiane Biagi wrote:

>  There are many stories on this board of cats who are pos living to a ripe
> old age.  However, they are very susceptible to infections and to lymphomas,
> for example.  Had my Romeo who was a stray I brought in from the street & he
> died very quickly from lymphoma years after.  Basically, it seems the best
> you can do for these little ones is good food, lots of good care, and love.
> I do not give interferon though a couple of times Tucson has had a very low
> white blood cell count & my vet used a series of immune regulin injections
> on her & count bounced back up.  I probably run her to the vet faster than I
> might the other cats just so as not to miss any infection brewing.  I had a
> senior blood panel done on her this year & everything was good.  But I know
> that things happen quickly and I enjoy her every day (well, almost every
> day! LOL) and hope for the best.
>
> ** **
>
> As for the other cats, they had spent years together—sharing dishes,
> grooming each other, using the same litter boxes, and occasionally getting
> into little scuffles.  They all tested neg & I just don’t think its quite as
> contagious as some of the literature  (& some vets) make it out to be.  **
> **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
> felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Marcia Baronda
> *Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2011 10:05 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed
>
> ** **
>
> Christiane
>
>  
>
> That is wonderful! I keep hearing a lot of stories filled with hope. I keep
> telling Fletch he can kickthis and he growls at me(-: He's a stinker!!  I
> had my two vaccinated today and the third one is going to the vet tomorrow.
> I hope he is negative also.
>
>  
>
> Thanks so much for sharing.
>
> Take care
>
> Marcia
>
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Christiane Biagi 
> wrote:
>
> My Tucson is 13 & was found pos when she was 4.  She had tested neg as
> kitten but was never outside so vets were sure she was pos from birth.  She
> lives with my other cats all of whom were around her for 3-4 years before I
> found her to be pos.  She's still going strong and none of the other cats
> tested pos.  I vaccinated the others.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda
> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:04 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>
> Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed
>
> Hi everyone!  My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a
> million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every
> hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been
> vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the
> vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep
> my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I
> would
> carry something in!
> Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can
> feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink
> ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain.
> Thanks so much for being here.
>
> Marcia
> Sent from my iPad
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>
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Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed

[Marcia Baronda]

Thank you Christiane(-:

On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 9:57 PM, Christiane Biagi wrote:

>  There are many stories on this board of cats who are pos living to a ripe
> old age.  However, they are very susceptible to infections and to lymphomas,
> for example.  Had my Romeo who was a stray I brought in from the street & he
> died very quickly from lymphoma years after.  Basically, it seems the best
> you can do for these little ones is good food, lots of good care, and love.
> I do not give interferon though a couple of times Tucson has had a very low
> white blood cell count & my vet used a series of immune regulin injections
> on her & count bounced back up.  I probably run her to the vet faster than I
> might the other cats just so as not to miss any infection brewing.  I had a
> senior blood panel done on her this year & everything was good.  But I know
> that things happen quickly and I enjoy her every day (well, almost every
> day! LOL) and hope for the best.
>
> ** **
>
> As for the other cats, they had spent years together—sharing dishes,
> grooming each other, using the same litter boxes, and occasionally getting
> into little scuffles.  They all tested neg & I just don’t think its quite as
> contagious as some of the literature  (& some vets) make it out to be.  **
> **
>
> ** **
>
> ** **
>
> *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
> felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Marcia Baronda
> *Sent:* Monday, August 22, 2011 10:05 PM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed
>
> ** **
>
> Christiane
>
>  
>
> That is wonderful! I keep hearing a lot of stories filled with hope. I keep
> telling Fletch he can kickthis and he growls at me(-: He's a stinker!!  I
> had my two vaccinated today and the third one is going to the vet tomorrow.
> I hope he is negative also.
>
>  
>
> Thanks so much for sharing.
>
> Take care
>
> Marcia
>
> On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Christiane Biagi 
> wrote:
>
> My Tucson is 13 & was found pos when she was 4.  She had tested neg as
> kitten but was never outside so vets were sure she was pos from birth.  She
> lives with my other cats all of whom were around her for 3-4 years before I
> found her to be pos.  She's still going strong and none of the other cats
> tested pos.  I vaccinated the others.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda
> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 11:04 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>
> Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed
>
> Hi everyone!  My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a
> million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every
> hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been
> vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the
> vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to keep
> my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear I
> would
> carry something in!
> Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can
> feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink
> ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain.
> Thanks so much for being here.
>
> Marcia
> Sent from my iPad
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>
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>
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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: My 1 year old just diagnosed

[Lynda Wilson]

I agree totally with you Marcia! I like "perks", lol!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Marcia Baronda 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 11:06 AM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: My 1 year old just diagnosed


  You know what?  I'm getting that way too!  It must be getting older. Ya know, 
I know this sounds really crazy, but I kind of like getting older, there ARE 
perks.

  Sent from my iPad

  On Aug 23, 2011, at 9:04 AM, Maureen Olvey  wrote:


The older I get the less I feel the need to be tactful.  That's probably 
good and bad.  Good for me cause I don't hold things in and don't let people 
get to me as much.  Bad for them because they have to put up with me and my 
bluntness.  I am a little worse when it comes to animals though.  I'll tell 
someone off in a heartbeat.  

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain




From: longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 08:47:19 -0500
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: My 1 year old just diagnosed


I can appreciate your last paragraph, Maureen!  You tell 'em girl! LOL!!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Maureen Olvey 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:41 AM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: My 1 year old just diagnosed


  It's such a strange an unpredictable disease and it seems like the more 
vets and researchers learn the more they realize that they don't know about it. 
 But, there is definitely light at the end of the tunnel for all cats, even 
Fletch.  
   
  What have they figured out about Fletch so far?  Is his white blood cell 
count down or something?  What's causing his weight loss?  >From hearing from 
others on the list, even though he has FeLV you would treat him for his 
symptoms as though he didn't have FeLV.  What I mean by that is don't give up.  
If a vet says "oh his white blood cell count is down and there's not much that 
will help because he has FeLV" then ask him what he would do if he didn't have 
FeLV and to treat him accordingly.  Don't let a vet assume he is going to die 
everytime he gets sick.  You may need to be more aggressive with his treatment 
or whatever because of the FeLV but keep fighting.  If later on he has a tumor 
then treat him for the tumor and don't just say "let him die."  The cat may 
have a flare up of something or another and then he is fine for the rest of his 
life.
   
  Over the years I've been in rescue and in dealing with feral cats I've 
taken two or three to the vet that had an injury or something and when the vet 
tested them for FIV they were positive.  Now that's not quite as bad as FeLV 
but still the vets in every case said that the cat probably wouldn't heal from 
his injuries because of the FIV and they recommended killing them.  But in 
every case I said no that I at least wanted to give them an opportunity to heal 
before putting them down and in every single case the cat recovered.  The FIV 
cat that I have that I mentioned was that way.  He had a bad URI and the vet 
said he probably wouldn't get over it.  One round of Clavamox later and he was 
fine.  Nothing to it.  That was about two and a half years ago.  He was like 8 
years old at the time.  I remember two others that I took in that had wounds 
and the vets said it was infected and they wouldn't recover because of the FIV. 
 LIke I said, the vet was wrong in both cases and the cats are now fine.
   
  FeLV is very dangerous and you can't play with it so always keep a 
watchful eye over Fletch but it's not an automatic death sentence either.  So 
if funds permit, find out specifically what's causing Fletch's symptoms and 
treat it.
   
  And for people that think less of cat lovers - well, I won't tell you 
what I normally say to them.  Something to the effect of "I'd rather be a crazy 
cat (or animal in general) lover than a cold-hearted wretch who didn't 
appreciate God's Creations!"  Better to love too much than too little so what 
exactly is wrong with caring about an animal so much that you want to do 
whatever you can to save it's life.  If God is Love then love comes from God 
and to love is to honor God and the creation that He loves.  That's the way I 
say it nicely   ;-) Usually after that nice speech I tell them to kiss my 
animal loving butt!


  “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that 
are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of t

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: My 1 year old just diagnosed

[Natalie]

YES – age is great!

I can hardly wait to be 80 and more, then I’ll really be able to get away with 
more, like Sophia on Golden Girls

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Marcia Baronda
Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:07 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: My 1 year old just diagnosed

 

You know what?  I'm getting that way too!  It must be getting older. Ya know, I 
know this sounds really crazy, but I kind of like getting older, there ARE 
perks.

Sent from my iPad


On Aug 23, 2011, at 9:04 AM, Maureen Olvey  wrote:

The older I get the less I feel the need to be tactful.  That's probably good 
and bad.  Good for me cause I don't hold things in and don't let people get to 
me as much.  Bad for them because they have to put up with me and my bluntness. 
 I am a little worse when it comes to animals though.  I'll tell someone off in 
a heartbeat.  

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain

  _  

From: longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 08:47:19 -0500
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: My 1 year old just diagnosed

I can appreciate your last paragraph, Maureen!  You tell 'em girl! LOL!!

- Original Message - 

From: Maureen Olvey   

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 

Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:41 AM

Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: My 1 year old just diagnosed

 

It's such a strange an unpredictable disease and it seems like the more vets 
and researchers learn the more they realize that they don't know about it.  
But, there is definitely light at the end of the tunnel for all cats, even 
Fletch.  
 
What have they figured out about Fletch so far?  Is his white blood cell count 
down or something?  What's causing his weight loss?  From hearing from others 
on the list, even though he has FeLV you would treat him for his symptoms as 
though he didn't have FeLV.  What I mean by that is don't give up.  If a vet 
says "oh his white blood cell count is down and there's not much that will help 
because he has FeLV" then ask him what he would do if he didn't have FeLV and 
to treat him accordingly.  Don't let a vet assume he is going to die everytime 
he gets sick.  You may need to be more aggressive with his treatment or 
whatever because of the FeLV but keep fighting.  If later on he has a tumor 
then treat him for the tumor and don't just say "let him die."  The cat may 
have a flare up of something or another and then he is fine for the rest of his 
life.
 
Over the years I've been in rescue and in dealing with feral cats I've taken 
two or three to the vet that had an injury or something and when the vet tested 
them for FIV they were positive.  Now that's not quite as bad as FeLV but still 
the vets in every case said that the cat probably wouldn't heal from his 
injuries because of the FIV and they recommended killing them.  But in every 
case I said no that I at least wanted to give them an opportunity to heal 
before putting them down and in every single case the cat recovered.  The FIV 
cat that I have that I mentioned was that way.  He had a bad URI and the vet 
said he probably wouldn't get over it.  One round of Clavamox later and he was 
fine.  Nothing to it.  That was about two and a half years ago.  He was like 8 
years old at the time.  I remember two others that I took in that had wounds 
and the vets said it was infected and they wouldn't recover because of the FIV. 
 LIke I said, the vet was wrong in both cases and the cats are now fine.
 
FeLV is very dangerous and you can't play with it so always keep a watchful eye 
over Fletch but it's not an automatic death sentence either.  So if funds 
permit, find out specifically what's causing Fletch's symptoms and treat it.
 
And for people that think less of cat lovers - well, I won't tell you what I 
normally say to them.  Something to the effect of "I'd rather be a crazy cat 
(or animal in general) lover than a cold-hearted wretch who didn't appreciate 
God's Creations!"  Better to love too much than too little so what exactly is 
wrong with caring about an animal so much that you want to do whatever you can 
to save it's life.  If God is Love then love comes from God and to love is to 
honor God and the creation that He loves.  That's the way I say it nicely   ;-) 
Usually after that nice speech I tell them to kiss my animal loving butt!


“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity wit

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: My 1 year old just diagnosed

[Marcia Baronda]

I do have a question. Is the Immunoregulon that sells on Revival Animal Health 
ok to use? My Mom and I both acquired Collies that had demodectic mange and 
that was one of the things we used to help treat them.

Thanks so much
Marcia

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 23, 2011, at 8:47 AM, "Lynda Wilson"  wrote:

> I can appreciate your last paragraph, Maureen!  You tell 'em girl! LOL!!
> - Original Message -
> From: Maureen Olvey
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:41 AM
> Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: My 1 year old just diagnosed
> 
> It's such a strange an unpredictable disease and it seems like the more vets 
> and researchers learn the more they realize that they don't know about it.  
> But, there is definitely light at the end of the tunnel for all cats, even 
> Fletch.  
>  
> What have they figured out about Fletch so far?  Is his white blood cell 
> count down or something?  What's causing his weight loss?  From hearing from 
> others on the list, even though he has FeLV you would treat him for his 
> symptoms as though he didn't have FeLV.  What I mean by that is don't give 
> up.  If a vet says "oh his white blood cell count is down and there's not 
> much that will help because he has FeLV" then ask him what he would do if he 
> didn't have FeLV and to treat him accordingly.  Don't let a vet assume he is 
> going to die everytime he gets sick.  You may need to be more aggressive with 
> his treatment or whatever because of the FeLV but keep fighting.  If later on 
> he has a tumor then treat him for the tumor and don't just say "let him die." 
>  The cat may have a flare up of something or another and then he is fine for 
> the rest of his life.
>  
> Over the years I've been in rescue and in dealing with feral cats I've taken 
> two or three to the vet that had an injury or something and when the vet 
> tested them for FIV they were positive.  Now that's not quite as bad as FeLV 
> but still the vets in every case said that the cat probably wouldn't heal 
> from his injuries because of the FIV and they recommended killing them.  But 
> in every case I said no that I at least wanted to give them an opportunity to 
> heal before putting them down and in every single case the cat recovered.  
> The FIV cat that I have that I mentioned was that way.  He had a bad URI and 
> the vet said he probably wouldn't get over it.  One round of Clavamox later 
> and he was fine.  Nothing to it.  That was about two and a half years ago.  
> He was like 8 years old at the time.  I remember two others that I took in 
> that had wounds and the vets said it was infected and they wouldn't recover 
> because of the FIV.  LIke I said, the vet was wrong in both cases and the 
> cats are now fine.
>  
> FeLV is very dangerous and you can't play with it so always keep a watchful 
> eye over Fletch but it's not an automatic death sentence either.  So if funds 
> permit, find out specifically what's causing Fletch's symptoms and treat it.
>  
> And for people that think less of cat lovers - well, I won't tell you what I 
> normally say to them.  Something to the effect of "I'd rather be a crazy cat 
> (or animal in general) lover than a cold-hearted wretch who didn't appreciate 
> God's Creations!"  Better to love too much than too little so what exactly is 
> wrong with caring about an animal so much that you want to do whatever you 
> can to save it's life.  If God is Love then love comes from God and to love 
> is to honor God and the creation that He loves.  That's the way I say it 
> nicely   ;-) Usually after that nice speech I tell them to kiss my animal 
> loving butt!
> 
> 
> “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
> profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
> unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
> sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
>  
> 
> From: marciabmar...@gmail.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:36:51 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed
> 
> Maureen
> I can't thank you enough for this email. I know i'm not out of the woods yet, 
> as far as my adults go, but hoping. That seems like a miracle that your fiv 
> cat didn't contract felv! It seems to me, that after hearing from all of you 
> today that there can definitely be a light at the end of the tunnel. I'm so 
> grateful for all of you. And I love being with people who love cats, because 
> sometimes we are just as misunderstood as our feline buddies are!
> Thank you Maureen. 
> Please take care
> Marcia
> 
> Sent from my Aug 22, 2011, at 5:25 PM, Maureen Olvey  
> wrote:
> 
> Not too long ago I posted that I had a FeLV positive cat mixed with an FIV 
> positive cat.  Obviously, I didn't know the FeLV cat was positive since she 
> tested negative as a kitten.  Anyway, the two lived together for two years 
> until she di

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: My 1 year old just diagnosed

[Marcia Baronda]

You know what?  I'm getting that way too!  It must be getting older. Ya know, I 
know this sounds really crazy, but I kind of like getting older, there ARE 
perks.

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 23, 2011, at 9:04 AM, Maureen Olvey  wrote:

> The older I get the less I feel the need to be tactful.  That's probably good 
> and bad.  Good for me cause I don't hold things in and don't let people get 
> to me as much.  Bad for them because they have to put up with me and my 
> bluntness.  I am a little worse when it comes to animals though.  I'll tell 
> someone off in a heartbeat.  
> 
> “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
> profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
> unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
> sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
> 
> From: longhornf...@verizon.net
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 08:47:19 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: My 1 year old just diagnosed
> 
> I can appreciate your last paragraph, Maureen!  You tell 'em girl! LOL!!
> - Original Message -
> From: Maureen Olvey
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:41 AM
> Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: My 1 year old just diagnosed
> 
> It's such a strange an unpredictable disease and it seems like the more vets 
> and researchers learn the more they realize that they don't know about it.  
> But, there is definitely light at the end of the tunnel for all cats, even 
> Fletch.  
>  
> What have they figured out about Fletch so far?  Is his white blood cell 
> count down or something?  What's causing his weight loss?  From hearing from 
> others on the list, even though he has FeLV you would treat him for his 
> symptoms as though he didn't have FeLV.  What I mean by that is don't give 
> up.  If a vet says "oh his white blood cell count is down and there's not 
> much that will help because he has FeLV" then ask him what he would do if he 
> didn't have FeLV and to treat him accordingly.  Don't let a vet assume he is 
> going to die everytime he gets sick.  You may need to be more aggressive with 
> his treatment or whatever because of the FeLV but keep fighting.  If later on 
> he has a tumor then treat him for the tumor and don't just say "let him die." 
>  The cat may have a flare up of something or another and then he is fine for 
> the rest of his life.
>  
> Over the years I've been in rescue and in dealing with feral cats I've taken 
> two or three to the vet that had an injury or something and when the vet 
> tested them for FIV they were positive.  Now that's not quite as bad as FeLV 
> but still the vets in every case said that the cat probably wouldn't heal 
> from his injuries because of the FIV and they recommended killing them.  But 
> in every case I said no that I at least wanted to give them an opportunity to 
> heal before putting them down and in every single case the cat recovered.  
> The FIV cat that I have that I mentioned was that way.  He had a bad URI and 
> the vet said he probably wouldn't get over it.  One round of Clavamox later 
> and he was fine.  Nothing to it.  That was about two and a half years ago.  
> He was like 8 years old at the time.  I remember two others that I took in 
> that had wounds and the vets said it was infected and they wouldn't recover 
> because of the FIV.  LIke I said, the vet was wrong in both cases and the 
> cats are now fine.
>  
> FeLV is very dangerous and you can't play with it so always keep a watchful 
> eye over Fletch but it's not an automatic death sentence either.  So if funds 
> permit, find out specifically what's causing Fletch's symptoms and treat it.
>  
> And for people that think less of cat lovers - well, I won't tell you what I 
> normally say to them.  Something to the effect of "I'd rather be a crazy cat 
> (or animal in general) lover than a cold-hearted wretch who didn't appreciate 
> God's Creations!"  Better to love too much than too little so what exactly is 
> wrong with caring about an animal so much that you want to do whatever you 
> can to save it's life.  If God is Love then love comes from God and to love 
> is to honor God and the creation that He loves.  That's the way I say it 
> nicely   ;-) Usually after that nice speech I tell them to kiss my animal 
> loving butt!
> 
> 
> “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
> profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
> unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
> sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
>  
> 
> From: marciabmar...@gmail.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:36:51 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed
> 
> Maureen
> I can't thank you enough for this email. I know i'm not out of the woods yet

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: My 1 year old just diagnosed

[Maureen Olvey]

The older I get the less I feel the need to be tactful.  That's probably good 
and bad.  Good for me cause I don't hold things in and don't let people get to 
me as much.  Bad for them because they have to put up with me and my bluntness. 
 I am a little worse when it comes to animals though.  I'll tell someone off in 
a heartbeat.  

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain

From: longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 08:47:19 -0500
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW:  My 1 year old just diagnosed










I can appreciate your last 
paragraph, Maureen!  You tell 'em girl! LOL!!

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Maureen 
  Olvey 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:41 
  AM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: My 1 year old 
  just diagnosed
  

  It's such a strange an unpredictable disease and it seems like 
  the more vets and researchers learn the more they realize that they don't 
know 
  about it.  But, there is definitely light at the end of the tunnel for 
  all cats, even Fletch.  
 
What have they figured out about 
  Fletch so far?  Is his white blood cell count down or something?  
  What's causing his weight loss?  From hearing from others on the list, 
  even though he has FeLV you would treat him for his symptoms as though he 
  didn't have FeLV.  What I mean by that is don't give up.  If a vet 
  says "oh his white blood cell count is down and there's not much that will 
  help because he has FeLV" then ask him what he would do if he didn't have 
FeLV 
  and to treat him accordingly.  Don't let a vet assume he is going to die 
  everytime he gets sick.  You may need to be more aggressive with his 
  treatment or whatever because of the FeLV but keep fighting.  If later on 
  he has a tumor then treat him for the tumor and don't just say "let him 
  die."  The cat may have a flare up of something or another and then he is 
  fine for the rest of his life.
 
Over the years I've been in rescue 
  and in dealing with feral cats I've taken two or three to the vet that 
  had an injury or something and when the vet tested them for FIV they were 
  positive.  Now that's not quite as bad as FeLV but still the vets in 
  every case said that the cat probably wouldn't heal from his injuries because 
  of the FIV and they recommended killing them.  But in every case I 
  said no that I at least wanted to give them an opportunity to heal before 
  putting them down and in every single case the cat recovered.  The FIV 
  cat that I have that I mentioned was that way.  He had a bad URI and the 
  vet said he probably wouldn't get over it.  One round of Clavamox later 
  and he was fine.  Nothing to it.  That was about two and a half 
  years ago.  He was like 8 years old at the time.  I remember two 
  others that I took in that had wounds and the vets said it was infected and 
  they wouldn't recover because of the FIV.  LIke I said, the vet was wrong 
  in both cases and the cats are now fine.
 
FeLV is very dangerous 
  and you can't play with it so always keep a watchful eye over Fletch but 
  it's not an automatic death sentence either.  So if funds permit, find 
  out specifically what's causing Fletch's symptoms and treat 
  it.
 
And for people that think less of cat lovers - well, I won't 
  tell you what I normally say to them.  Something to the effect of "I'd 
  rather be a crazy cat (or animal in general) lover than a cold-hearted 
  wretch who didn't appreciate God's Creations!"  Better to love too much 
  than too little so what exactly is wrong with caring about an animal so 
  much that you want to do whatever you can to save it's life.  If God 
  is Love then love comes from God and to love is to honor God and the 
  creation that He loves.  That's the way I say it nicely   
  ;-) Usually after that nice speech I tell them to kiss 
  my animal loving butt!


“I am not interested to know whether vivisection 
  produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain 
  which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward 
  it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking 
  further.” – Mark Twain
 


  
  
  
  
  From: marciabmar...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Mon, 
  22 Aug 2011 23:36:51 -0500
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just 
  diagnosed


  Maureen
  I can't thank you enough for this email. I know i'm not out of the woods 
  yet, as far as my adults go, but hoping. That seems like a miracle that your 
  fiv cat didn't contract felv! It seems to me, that after hearing from all of 
  you today that there can definitely be a light at the end of the tunnel.

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: My 1 year old just diagnosed

[Lynda Wilson]

I can appreciate your last paragraph, Maureen!  You tell 'em girl! LOL!!
  - Original Message - 
  From: Maureen Olvey 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:41 AM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: My 1 year old just diagnosed


  It's such a strange an unpredictable disease and it seems like the more vets 
and researchers learn the more they realize that they don't know about it.  
But, there is definitely light at the end of the tunnel for all cats, even 
Fletch.  
   
  What have they figured out about Fletch so far?  Is his white blood cell 
count down or something?  What's causing his weight loss?  From hearing from 
others on the list, even though he has FeLV you would treat him for his 
symptoms as though he didn't have FeLV.  What I mean by that is don't give up.  
If a vet says "oh his white blood cell count is down and there's not much that 
will help because he has FeLV" then ask him what he would do if he didn't have 
FeLV and to treat him accordingly.  Don't let a vet assume he is going to die 
everytime he gets sick.  You may need to be more aggressive with his treatment 
or whatever because of the FeLV but keep fighting.  If later on he has a tumor 
then treat him for the tumor and don't just say "let him die."  The cat may 
have a flare up of something or another and then he is fine for the rest of his 
life.
   
  Over the years I've been in rescue and in dealing with feral cats I've taken 
two or three to the vet that had an injury or something and when the vet tested 
them for FIV they were positive.  Now that's not quite as bad as FeLV but still 
the vets in every case said that the cat probably wouldn't heal from his 
injuries because of the FIV and they recommended killing them.  But in every 
case I said no that I at least wanted to give them an opportunity to heal 
before putting them down and in every single case the cat recovered.  The FIV 
cat that I have that I mentioned was that way.  He had a bad URI and the vet 
said he probably wouldn't get over it.  One round of Clavamox later and he was 
fine.  Nothing to it.  That was about two and a half years ago.  He was like 8 
years old at the time.  I remember two others that I took in that had wounds 
and the vets said it was infected and they wouldn't recover because of the FIV. 
 LIke I said, the vet was wrong in both cases and the cats are now fine.
   
  FeLV is very dangerous and you can't play with it so always keep a watchful 
eye over Fletch but it's not an automatic death sentence either.  So if funds 
permit, find out specifically what's causing Fletch's symptoms and treat it.
   
  And for people that think less of cat lovers - well, I won't tell you what I 
normally say to them.  Something to the effect of "I'd rather be a crazy cat 
(or animal in general) lover than a cold-hearted wretch who didn't appreciate 
God's Creations!"  Better to love too much than too little so what exactly is 
wrong with caring about an animal so much that you want to do whatever you can 
to save it's life.  If God is Love then love comes from God and to love is to 
honor God and the creation that He loves.  That's the way I say it nicely   ;-) 
Usually after that nice speech I tell them to kiss my animal loving butt!


  “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
   



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  From: marciabmar...@gmail.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:36:51 -0500
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed


  Maureen
  I can't thank you enough for this email. I know i'm not out of the woods yet, 
as far as my adults go, but hoping. That seems like a miracle that your fiv cat 
didn't contract felv! It seems to me, that after hearing from all of you today 
that there can definitely be a light at the end of the tunnel. I'm so grateful 
for all of you. And I love being with people who love cats, because sometimes 
we are just as misunderstood as our feline buddies are!
  Thank you Maureen. 
  Please take care
  Marcia

  Sent from my Aug 22, 2011, at 5:25 PM, Maureen Olvey  
wrote:


Not too long ago I posted that I had a FeLV positive cat mixed with an FIV 
positive cat.  Obviously, I didn't know the FeLV cat was positive since she 
tested negative as a kitten.  Anyway, the two lived together for two years 
until she died and I just tested my old FIV kitty and he's negative.  I've got 
a houseful of my cats and fosters and I've only tested like 7 of them so far 
but they've all been negative.  None are vaccinated against FeLV either.  It's 
weird.  I totally expected my FIV kitty to contract it.  I'm glad he didn't of 
course.
 
One vet I t

Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed

[Maureen Olvey]

The only reason I can think of to give them an annual vaccination is to protect 
them from Fletch if he turns out to definitely be FeLV positive.  You would 
think that if they were going to get FeLV from Fletch they would have gotten it 
by now but I guess there's a chance they still could get it later on like if 
their immune system is compromised by illness or some other reason.  I don't 
know.  Hard call.  Of course if they've developed somewhat of an immunity to 
FeLV from being exposed to it through Fletch then maybe they'll always be 
immune and not need an annual shot.  It's kind of like better safe than sorry.  
If Fletch does pass on before they do then there's no reason to keep up their 
vaccinations.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain

From: marciabmar...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 01:21:27 -0500
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed

Thanks. I really like this vet, and I believe that the newer younger vets will 
hardly ever tell you to put an animal down, whereas The older ones that I have 
dealt with don't hesitate to suggest that. This new one was recently hired by 
my regular veterinarian, and he is great, knows everything, so I know the new 
guy must be good or he wouldn't be there. All the people at my vets office are 
wonderful. Can't tell I really like them, can you?Now, if my cats never ever go 
outside, do they need this shot every year? The closest they have ever come to 
outside is looking through a window.
Take care

Sent from my iPad
On Aug 22, 2011, at 11:52 PM, Maureen Olvey  wrote:


The vet that I mentioned in my other e-mail that I was talking to about FeLV 
said that for your negatives you do need a series of two shots, three weeks 
apart.  She said one FeLV vaccination by itself is not enough.  I specifically 
asked her one time if one shot would  help at all but she said no that either 
it was two shots or nothing.  After that then it's annually.  Maybe there is 
some flexibility in the weeks between, like maybe you could go 4 weeks instead 
of 3 but I really don't know.  I've just always heard 3 weeks.  Definitely not 
longer than 4 weeks.

 

A young vet can actually be better in some ways because a lot of the older vets 
hear FeLV and immediately recommend putting the cat down.  That sends me over 
the edge.  They don't even talk about confirming with an IFA test.  The vet 
that I mentioned actually wrote one of the first papers about using 
immunoregulin for treating FeLV years ago.  Everyone else at the time just 
recommended killing the cat once it showed any signs at all of being sick.  
She's one of the better "older" vets.  She's not old but she's been practicing 
for a while, which is what I mean.

 

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 




From: marciabmar...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:42:05 -0500
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed


Hi Lynda
I think, well I know I am dealing with a very young vet, but he is concerned 
and that is good. When I asked today when to bring the cats back he Said in a 
year. The receptionist told me when I got ready to leave to come back in a 
month. If you say three weeks than I will take them back in three weeks! Thank 
you very much, I feel like I have a bunch new caring friends(-:

Sent from my iPad

On Aug 22, 2011, at 10:40 PM, "Lynda Wilson"  wrote:





Marcia,
 
Just a friendly reminder, in order for the vaccination to be effective, the cat 
has to have 2 shots, 3 weeks apart (no more than that or you have to start 
over).
 
Hang in there! There is still hope! What Maureen said is right on the money :0)
Lynda

- Original Message - 
From: Marcia Baronda 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 9:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed


Christiane
 
That is wonderful! I keep hearing a lot of stories filled with hope. I keep 
telling Fletch he can kickthis and he growls at me(-: He's a stinker!!  I had 
my two vaccinated today and the third one is going to the vet tomorrow. I hope 
he is negative also.
 
Thanks so much for sharing.
Take care
Marcia


On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 8:21 PM, Christiane Biagi  wrote:

My Tucson is 13 & was found pos when she was 4.  She had tested neg as
kitten but was never outside so vets were sure she was pos from birth.  She
lives with my other cats all of whom were around her for 3-4 years before I
found her to 

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: My 1 year old just diagnosed

[Maureen Olvey]

What's funny is that those people who give us grief usually are the ones that 
don't own animals.  Then later when they get a pet a lot of them became the 
sappy animal lovers like we are.   I love it when that happens.  I tell people 
that don't like cats that it's usually because they don't own a cat.  To know 
one is to love one (in most cases).

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain

From: marciabmar...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 01:27:18 -0500
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW:  My 1 year old just diagnosed

AMEN!!! I finally realized I dont owe THEM an explanation. I think every little 
beings life is important to that being and if I can help save that life, I will.

Sent from my iPad
On Aug 23, 2011, at 12:41 AM, Maureen Olvey  wrote:


It's such a strange an unpredictable disease and it seems like the more vets 
and researchers learn the more they realize that they don't know about it.  
But, there is definitely light at the end of the tunnel for all cats, even 
Fletch.  
 
What have they figured out about Fletch so far?  Is his white blood cell count 
down or something?  What's causing his weight loss?  From hearing from others 
on the list, even though he has FeLV you would treat him for his symptoms as 
though he didn't have FeLV.  What I mean by that is don't give up.  If a vet 
says "oh his white blood cell count is down and there's not much that will help 
because he has FeLV" then ask him what he would do if he didn't have FeLV and 
to treat him accordingly.  Don't let a vet assume he is going to die everytime 
he gets sick.  You may need to be more aggressive with his treatment or 
whatever because of the FeLV but keep fighting.  If later on he has a tumor 
then treat him for the tumor and don't just say "let him die."  The cat may 
have a flare up of something or another and then he is fine for the rest of his 
life.
 
Over the years I've been in rescue and in dealing with feral cats I've taken 
two or three to the vet that had an injury or something and when the vet tested 
them for FIV they were positive.  Now that's not quite as bad as FeLV but still 
the vets in every case said that the cat probably wouldn't heal from his 
injuries because of the FIV and they recommended killing them.  But in every 
case I said no that I at least wanted to give them an opportunity to heal 
before putting them down and in every single case the cat recovered.  The FIV 
cat that I have that I mentioned was that way.  He had a bad URI and the vet 
said he probably wouldn't get over it.  One round of Clavamox later and he was 
fine.  Nothing to it.  That was about two and a half years ago.  He was like 8 
years old at the time.  I remember two others that I took in that had wounds 
and the vets said it was infected and they wouldn't recover because of the FIV. 
 LIke I said, the vet was wrong in both cases and the cats are now fine.
 
FeLV is very dangerous and you can't play with it so always keep a watchful eye 
over Fletch but it's not an automatic death sentence either.  So if funds 
permit, find out specifically what's causing Fletch's symptoms and treat it.

 
And for people that think less of cat lovers - well, I won't tell you what I 
normally say to them.  Something to the effect of "I'd rather be a crazy cat 
(or animal in general) lover than a cold-hearted wretch who didn't appreciate 
God's Creations!"  Better to love too much than too little so what exactly is 
wrong with caring about an animal so much that you want to do whatever you can 
to save it's life.  If God is Love then love comes from God and to love is to 
honor God and the creation that He loves.  That's the way I say it nicely   ;-) 
Usually after that nice speech I tell them to kiss my animal loving butt!


“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 






From: marciabmar...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:36:51 -0500
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed


Maureen
I can't thank you enough for this email. I know i'm not out of the woods yet, 
as far as my adults go, but hoping. That seems like a miracle that your fiv cat 
didn't contract felv! It seems to me, that after hearing from all of you today 
that there can definitely be a light at the end of the tunnel. I'm so grateful 
for all of you. And I love being with people who love cats, because sometimes 
we are just as misunderstood as our feline buddies are!
Thank you Maureen