The older I get the less I feel the need to be tactful.  That's probably good 
and bad.  Good for me cause I don't hold things in and don't let people get to 
me as much.  Bad for them because they have to put up with me and my bluntness. 
 I am a little worse when it comes to animals though.  I'll tell someone off in 
a heartbeat.  

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain

From: longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 08:47:19 -0500
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW:  My 1 year old just diagnosed










I can appreciate your last 
paragraph, Maureen!  You tell 'em girl! LOL!!

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: 
  Maureen 
  Olvey 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  
  Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:41 
  AM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: My 1 year old 
  just diagnosed
  

  It's such a strange an unpredictable disease and it seems like 
  the more vets and researchers learn the more they realize that they don't 
know 
  about it.  But, there is definitely light at the end of the tunnel for 
  all cats, even Fletch.  
 
What have they figured out about 
  Fletch so far?  Is his white blood cell count down or something?  
  What's causing his weight loss?  From hearing from others on the list, 
  even though he has FeLV you would treat him for his symptoms as though he 
  didn't have FeLV.  What I mean by that is don't give up.  If a vet 
  says "oh his white blood cell count is down and there's not much that will 
  help because he has FeLV" then ask him what he would do if he didn't have 
FeLV 
  and to treat him accordingly.  Don't let a vet assume he is going to die 
  everytime he gets sick.  You may need to be more aggressive with his 
  treatment or whatever because of the FeLV but keep fighting.  If later on 
  he has a tumor then treat him for the tumor and don't just say "let him 
  die."  The cat may have a flare up of something or another and then he is 
  fine for the rest of his life.
 
Over the years I've been in rescue 
  and in dealing with feral cats I've taken two or three to the vet that 
  had an injury or something and when the vet tested them for FIV they were 
  positive.  Now that's not quite as bad as FeLV but still the vets in 
  every case said that the cat probably wouldn't heal from his injuries because 
  of the FIV and they recommended killing them.  But in every case I 
  said no that I at least wanted to give them an opportunity to heal before 
  putting them down and in every single case the cat recovered.  The FIV 
  cat that I have that I mentioned was that way.  He had a bad URI and the 
  vet said he probably wouldn't get over it.  One round of Clavamox later 
  and he was fine.  Nothing to it.  That was about two and a half 
  years ago.  He was like 8 years old at the time.  I remember two 
  others that I took in that had wounds and the vets said it was infected and 
  they wouldn't recover because of the FIV.  LIke I said, the vet was wrong 
  in both cases and the cats are now fine.
 
FeLV is very dangerous 
  and you can't play with it so always keep a watchful eye over Fletch but 
  it's not an automatic death sentence either.  So if funds permit, find 
  out specifically what's causing Fletch's symptoms and treat 
  it.
 
And for people that think less of cat lovers - well, I won't 
  tell you what I normally say to them.  Something to the effect of "I'd 
  rather be a crazy cat (or animal in general) lover than a cold-hearted 
  wretch who didn't appreciate God's Creations!"  Better to love too much 
  than too little so what exactly is wrong with caring about an animal so 
  much that you want to do whatever you can to save it's life.  If God 
  is Love then love comes from God and to love is to honor God and the 
  creation that He loves.  That's the way I say it nicely   
  ;-)     Usually after that nice speech I tell them to kiss 
  my animal loving butt!


“I am not interested to know whether vivisection 
  produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain 
  which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward 
  it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking 
  further.” – Mark Twain
 


  
  
  
  
  From: marciabmar...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Mon, 
  22 Aug 2011 23:36:51 -0500
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just 
  diagnosed


  Maureen
  I can't thank you enough for this email. I know i'm not out of the woods 
  yet, as far as my adults go, but hoping. That seems like a miracle that your 
  fiv cat didn't contract felv! It seems to me, that after hearing from all of 
  you today that there can definitely be a light at the end of the tunnel. I'm 
  so grateful for all of you. And I love being with people who love cats, 
  because sometimes we are just as misunderstood as our feline buddies 
are!
  Thank you Maureen. 
  Please take care
  Marcia

Sent from my Aug 22, 2011, 
  at 5:25 PM, Maureen Olvey <molvey...@hotmail.com> 
  wrote:
  

  
  
    
    Not too long ago I posted that I had a FeLV positive cat mixed 
    with an FIV positive cat.  Obviously, I didn't know the FeLV cat was 
    positive since she tested negative as a kitten.  Anyway, the two lived 
    together for two years until she died and I just tested my old FIV kitty 
and 
    he's negative.  I've got a houseful of my cats and fosters and I've 
    only tested like 7 of them so far but they've all been negative.  None 
    are vaccinated against FeLV either.  It's weird.  I totally 
    expected my FIV kitty to contract it.  I'm glad he didn't of 
    course.
 
One vet I talked to said that it's possible the 
    FeLV kitty put the virus into dormancy as a kitten which is why she 
    tested negative and then it reactivated later as an adult.  Maybe 
    that's what happened with Fletch.  I wouldn't have thought a kitten 
    would have a strong enough immune system to put the virus into dormancy but 
    who knows.  But still once it reactivated in my cat I would have 
    thought she could have spread the virus to my other cats.  This vet 
    also said that most vets now days believe that healthy adult cats are 
pretty 
    much immune to the virus.  Still best to vaccinate your other 
    cats annually but I'm just saying it's not surprising your others are 
    negative.
 
I also have a friend who mixes her negatives and 
    positives together.  She just keeps her negatives vaccinated 
    annually.  She even has FIV cats mixed in and keeps them vaccinated too 
    and they have never caught the FeLV virus.  
 
Definitely 
    get an IFA test to confirm the ELISA test.  The ELISA test is wrong in 
    about 30% of the cases from what someone else told me.  It's a very 
    sensitive test so if it's not done perfectly it can show a false 
    positive.  Course since Fletch is sick it could be correct but you 
    should still confirm with the IFA test.  If the IFA test is negative 
    then it means the virus hasn't gotten into his white blood cells and t-cell 
    lymphocytes (I have no idea what that is, I just read it) so he still has a 
    chance of exterminating the virus completely or putting it into 
    dormancy.  So if his IFA test is negative then do a retest in a couple 
    months to see if it has gotten that far or not.  You need two test with 
    the same results to confirm FeLV status.
 
If after doing the 
    IFA, Fletch shows positive definitely look into immune system stimulants 
    like interferon and immunoreglin.  I don't know much about them but 
    others on the list do and your vet should know.  Need to keep Fletch 
    around for a long long time.  Since he's sick right now I'd go ahead 
    and get him going on this kind of stuff.
 
 
“I am not interested to know 
    whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race 
    or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the 
    basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of 
    the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 

    
    
    
  
  

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