You know what? I'm getting that way too! It must be getting older. Ya know, I know this sounds really crazy, but I kind of like getting older, there ARE perks.
Sent from my iPad On Aug 23, 2011, at 9:04 AM, Maureen Olvey <[email protected]> wrote: > The older I get the less I feel the need to be tactful. That's probably good > and bad. Good for me cause I don't hold things in and don't let people get > to me as much. Bad for them because they have to put up with me and my > bluntness. I am a little worse when it comes to animals though. I'll tell > someone off in a heartbeat. > > “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Tue, 23 Aug 2011 08:47:19 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: My 1 year old just diagnosed > > I can appreciate your last paragraph, Maureen! You tell 'em girl! LOL!! > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Maureen Olvey > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, August 23, 2011 12:41 AM > Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: My 1 year old just diagnosed > > It's such a strange an unpredictable disease and it seems like the more vets > and researchers learn the more they realize that they don't know about it. > But, there is definitely light at the end of the tunnel for all cats, even > Fletch. > > What have they figured out about Fletch so far? Is his white blood cell > count down or something? What's causing his weight loss? From hearing from > others on the list, even though he has FeLV you would treat him for his > symptoms as though he didn't have FeLV. What I mean by that is don't give > up. If a vet says "oh his white blood cell count is down and there's not > much that will help because he has FeLV" then ask him what he would do if he > didn't have FeLV and to treat him accordingly. Don't let a vet assume he is > going to die everytime he gets sick. You may need to be more aggressive with > his treatment or whatever because of the FeLV but keep fighting. If later on > he has a tumor then treat him for the tumor and don't just say "let him die." > The cat may have a flare up of something or another and then he is fine for > the rest of his life. > > Over the years I've been in rescue and in dealing with feral cats I've taken > two or three to the vet that had an injury or something and when the vet > tested them for FIV they were positive. Now that's not quite as bad as FeLV > but still the vets in every case said that the cat probably wouldn't heal > from his injuries because of the FIV and they recommended killing them. But > in every case I said no that I at least wanted to give them an opportunity to > heal before putting them down and in every single case the cat recovered. > The FIV cat that I have that I mentioned was that way. He had a bad URI and > the vet said he probably wouldn't get over it. One round of Clavamox later > and he was fine. Nothing to it. That was about two and a half years ago. > He was like 8 years old at the time. I remember two others that I took in > that had wounds and the vets said it was infected and they wouldn't recover > because of the FIV. LIke I said, the vet was wrong in both cases and the > cats are now fine. > > FeLV is very dangerous and you can't play with it so always keep a watchful > eye over Fletch but it's not an automatic death sentence either. So if funds > permit, find out specifically what's causing Fletch's symptoms and treat it. > > And for people that think less of cat lovers - well, I won't tell you what I > normally say to them. Something to the effect of "I'd rather be a crazy cat > (or animal in general) lover than a cold-hearted wretch who didn't appreciate > God's Creations!" Better to love too much than too little so what exactly is > wrong with caring about an animal so much that you want to do whatever you > can to save it's life. If God is Love then love comes from God and to love > is to honor God and the creation that He loves. That's the way I say it > nicely ;-) Usually after that nice speech I tell them to kiss my animal > loving butt! > > > “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > > > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 23:36:51 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed > > Maureen > I can't thank you enough for this email. I know i'm not out of the woods yet, > as far as my adults go, but hoping. That seems like a miracle that your fiv > cat didn't contract felv! It seems to me, that after hearing from all of you > today that there can definitely be a light at the end of the tunnel. I'm so > grateful for all of you. And I love being with people who love cats, because > sometimes we are just as misunderstood as our feline buddies are! > Thank you Maureen. > Please take care > Marcia > > Sent from my Aug 22, 2011, at 5:25 PM, Maureen Olvey <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Not too long ago I posted that I had a FeLV positive cat mixed with an FIV > positive cat. Obviously, I didn't know the FeLV cat was positive since she > tested negative as a kitten. Anyway, the two lived together for two years > until she died and I just tested my old FIV kitty and he's negative. I've > got a houseful of my cats and fosters and I've only tested like 7 of them so > far but they've all been negative. None are vaccinated against FeLV either. > It's weird. I totally expected my FIV kitty to contract it. I'm glad he > didn't of course. > > One vet I talked to said that it's possible the FeLV kitty put the virus into > dormancy as a kitten which is why she tested negative and then it reactivated > later as an adult. Maybe that's what happened with Fletch. I wouldn't have > thought a kitten would have a strong enough immune system to put the virus > into dormancy but who knows. But still once it reactivated in my cat I would > have thought she could have spread the virus to my other cats. This vet also > said that most vets now days believe that healthy adult cats are pretty much > immune to the virus. Still best to vaccinate your other cats annually but > I'm just saying it's not surprising your others are negative. > > I also have a friend who mixes her negatives and positives together. She > just keeps her negatives vaccinated annually. She even has FIV cats mixed in > and keeps them vaccinated too and they have never caught the FeLV virus. > > Definitely get an IFA test to confirm the ELISA test. The ELISA test is > wrong in about 30% of the cases from what someone else told me. It's a very > sensitive test so if it's not done perfectly it can show a false positive. > Course since Fletch is sick it could be correct but you should still > confirm with the IFA test. If the IFA test is negative then it means the > virus hasn't gotten into his white blood cells and t-cell lymphocytes (I have > no idea what that is, I just read it) so he still has a chance of > exterminating the virus completely or putting it into dormancy. So if his > IFA test is negative then do a retest in a couple months to see if it has > gotten that far or not. You need two test with the same results to confirm > FeLV status. > > If after doing the IFA, Fletch shows positive definitely look into immune > system stimulants like interferon and immunoreglin. I don't know much about > them but others on the list do and your vet should know. Need to keep Fletch > around for a long long time. Since he's sick right now I'd go ahead and get > him going on this kind of stuff. > > > “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are > profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon > unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me > sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain > > > > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > _______________________________________________ > Felvtalk mailing list > [email protected] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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