[Felvtalk] Brutus Beefcake Please add to the CLS

2012-01-02 Thread Sherry DeHaan
I didn't get the chance to send this earlier,but sweet Brutus crossed the 
Bridge last Friday Dec 23,he was lucky to of had a home with our wonderful 
volunteer Marcia who lost several of the Sids kids that she took home this past 
year. Many of us had multiple losses in 2011,lets hope for a healthier year for 
our precious fur kids. Many blessings to all of my friends and support here on 
the felv group.You are all a blessing to me too  :)
Sherry
 
 
 


 
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Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-02 Thread Lynda Wilson
I agree, but admit, it had me thinking twice. It's heartbreaking that he was 
fine one day and on death's door the next :(   I miss him so!


Bless all the sick furry babies...

L
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From: "Lorrie" 

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Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 3:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat



I really doubt it was neutering that caused his death. Anemia is
one of the complications of FelV.


On 01-02, Lynda Wilson wrote:

   Sorry  to  say,  but I had my kitten neutered at 6 mos. of age (at the
   time  we  did  not know he was positive because he actually tested neg
   for  it when he was much younger). He died at 9 mos of severe anemia &
   other  complications  due  to  being  FeLV  positive.  I don't know if
   getting him neutered triggered this but now I'm wondering since you've
   mentioned this.  Has anyone else heard of this?



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Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-02 Thread Lorrie
I rescue cats and I've have had many FelV positive cats neutered or
spayed.  If they are healthy at the time they come thru the surgery
just fine regardless of their FelV status.

Lorrie
 
On 01-02, dppl dppl wrote: I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in
>October who tested positive. He seems to be healthy at this time
>and around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have him
>neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a
>positive cat, claiming surgery could trigger an immune system
>problem. Has anyone neutered their positive cat after finding
>out it was positive and what was your experience? Thanks for any
>input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet give
>vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed
>positive. She sent the blookwork to an outside lad since she
>said it would be less costly and that same visit when blood was
>drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations.


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Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-02 Thread Lorrie
I really doubt it was neutering that caused his death. Anemia is
one of the complications of FelV.  


On 01-02, Lynda Wilson wrote:
>Sorry  to  say,  but I had my kitten neutered at 6 mos. of age (at the
>time  we  did  not know he was positive because he actually tested neg
>for  it when he was much younger). He died at 9 mos of severe anemia &
>other  complications  due  to  being  FeLV  positive.  I don't know if
>getting him neutered triggered this but now I'm wondering since you've
>mentioned this.  Has anyone else heard of this?
> 

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Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-02 Thread john pollack
Tigger was FeLV+ from birth. he WAS tested positive before neutering. the only 
thing the vet did different was send him home quicker. he lived to be 1 mo 
short of 5 when he passed nov, 2011. neutering did him no harm...if anything 
made him even more of a lovebug



 From: dppl dppl 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 3:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat
 

Thanks for your replies. Lynda, sorry to hear about your cat.  That's what I 
fear.
 But I do agree as he gets older and is not neutered, he will become very 
frustrated.
 It is bad enough he can't be with other cats.  When I first called, I was told 
they 
won't do the surgery b/c of fear of spreading disease in their facility. That 
sounded
wrong since arent' they supposed to use sterile procedures and keep animals in 
surgery
separate? So I called again and a different person told me the reason was 
liability. That 
doesn't sound right either since they make you sign a form accepting risk. This 
is a facility
that euthanizes feral positive cats upon testing when brought for sterilzation 
unless theperson
bringing the cat in takes it back unsterilzed. I do have a private vet but she 
has seen only one 
cat test positive  in her practice t so I'm not sure if she would know about 
risks. 
   
From: dppl dppl 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 12:25 PM
Subject: neutering a positive cat
 

I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He seems 
to be
healthy at this time and  around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have him
neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive cat,
claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered
their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your 
experience?
Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet give
vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She sent 
the 
blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that 
same visit
when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations.


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Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-02 Thread dppl dppl
Thanks for your replies. Lynda, sorry to hear about your cat.  That's what I 
fear.
 But I do agree as he gets older and is not neutered, he will become very 
frustrated.
 It is bad enough he can't be with other cats.  When I first called, I was told 
they 
won't do the surgery b/c of fear of spreading disease in their facility. That 
sounded
wrong since arent' they supposed to use sterile procedures and keep animals in 
surgery
separate? So I called again and a different person told me the reason was 
liability. That 
doesn't sound right either since they make you sign a form accepting risk. This 
is a facility
that euthanizes feral positive cats upon testing when brought for sterilzation 
unless theperson
bringing the cat in takes it back unsterilzed. I do have a private vet but she 
has seen only one 
cat test positive  in her practice t so I'm not sure if she would know about 
risks. 
   


 From: dppl dppl 
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org"  
Sent: Monday, January 2, 2012 12:25 PM
Subject: neutering a positive cat
 

I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He seems 
to be
healthy at this time and  around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have him
neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive cat,
claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered
their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your 
experience?
Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet give
vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She sent 
the 
blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that 
same visit
when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations.___
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Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-02 Thread GRAS
My vet uses very small amount of anesthesia for males, it only takes 10-15
minutes, and they're up and about almost immediately.  However, we always
give cats to be altered some vitamin shots prior to surgery - Vitamin C,
B12.  As long as they are asymptomatic, well-fed and rested, no stress -
altering males and females is not a problem. Yes, I have had both FeLV and
FIV positive cats altered over the years and never had a problem.

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 1:14 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

 

Females can be spayed via laser which is a lot less traumatic.  I don't know
about males.  Personally I would want a private vet who experienced in FeL+
cats.MHO

On Jan 2, 2012, at 11:38 AM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote:





I have. Have not seen any problem from it, but I do think it could trigger
an upper respiratory infection or other problems like any stressful event.
The thing is, remaining unneutered is a big source of stress, much bigger in
my opinion than the surgery. Keeping an intact male from roaming or mating
will result much restlessness and anxiety on his part. Unneutered cats
generally have trouble keeping weight on and are less healthy, because so
much energy goes into the reproductive system and behavior. Neutered cats
are much calmer and healthier. For this reason, I would get him neutered. I
have never seen a vet refuse to neuter a positive cat. Even the low-cost
clinic we use does it. 

Michelle

 

 

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From: dppl dppl 
To: felvtalk 
Sent: Mon, Jan 2, 2012 12:26 pm
Subject: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He
seems to be

healthy at this time and  around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have
him

neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive
cat,

claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered

their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your
experience?

Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet
give

vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She
sent the 

blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that
same visit

when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations.

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Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-02 Thread MaiMaiPG
Females can be spayed via laser which is a lot less traumatic.  I  
don't know about males.  Personally I would want a private vet who  
experienced in FeL+ cats.MHO

On Jan 2, 2012, at 11:38 AM, lernermiche...@aol.com wrote:

I have. Have not seen any problem from it, but I do think it could  
trigger an upper respiratory infection or other problems like any  
stressful event. The thing is, remaining unneutered is a big source  
of stress, much bigger in my opinion than the surgery. Keeping an  
intact male from roaming or mating will result much restlessness and  
anxiety on his part. Unneutered cats generally have trouble keeping  
weight on and are less healthy, because so much energy goes into the  
reproductive system and behavior. Neutered cats are much calmer and  
healthier. For this reason, I would get him neutered. I have never  
seen a vet refuse to neuter a positive cat. Even the low-cost clinic  
we use does it.


Michelle


-Original Message-
From: dppl dppl 
To: felvtalk 
Sent: Mon, Jan 2, 2012 12:26 pm
Subject: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested  
positive. He seems to be
healthy at this time and  around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I  
should have him
neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a  
positive cat,
claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone  
neutered
their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was  
your experience?
Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why  
the vet give
vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive.  
She sent the
blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly  
and that same visit

when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations.
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Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-02 Thread Christiane Biagi
Agreed---not neutering a male cat ultimately is a whole lot more stressful
for the cat.  The procedure for male cats is a whole lot less intrusive than
for female & I would think that while there is always risk in any surgery, a
simple neuter would ultimately be better than not neutering.

 

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Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 12:38 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

 

I have. Have not seen any problem from it, but I do think it could trigger
an upper respiratory infection or other problems like any stressful event.
The thing is, remaining unneutered is a big source of stress, much bigger in
my opinion than the surgery. Keeping an intact male from roaming or mating
will result much restlessness and anxiety on his part. Unneutered cats
generally have trouble keeping weight on and are less healthy, because so
much energy goes into the reproductive system and behavior. Neutered cats
are much calmer and healthier. For this reason, I would get him neutered. I
have never seen a vet refuse to neuter a positive cat. Even the low-cost
clinic we use does it. 

Michelle

 

 

-Original Message-
From: dppl dppl 
To: felvtalk 
Sent: Mon, Jan 2, 2012 12:26 pm
Subject: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He
seems to be

healthy at this time and  around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have
him

neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive
cat,

claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered

their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your
experience?

Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet
give

vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She
sent the 

blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that
same visit

when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations.

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Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-02 Thread Cindy McHugh
One of our rescues tested positive at the time he was neutered. The vet went 
ahead and did the surgery. That was about a year ago. He was adopted in 
September and was fine at that time - and still is as of the last update I 
received.

I'm not saying that neutering couldn't trigger a problem, but in our case, it 
didn't seem to.

Good luck.
Cindy
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lynda Wilson 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 12:42 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat


  Sorry to say, but I had my kitten neutered at 6 mos. of age (at the time we 
did not know he was positive because he actually tested neg for it when he was 
much younger). He died at 9 mos of severe anemia & other complications due to 
being FeLV positive.  I don't know if getting him neutered triggered this but 
now I'm wondering since you've mentioned this.  Has anyone else heard of this?
- Original Message - 
From: dppl dppl 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 11:25 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat


I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He 
seems to be
healthy at this time and  around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should 
have him
neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive 
cat,
claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered
their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your 
experience?
Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet 
give
vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She 
sent the 
blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that 
same visit
when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations.





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Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-02 Thread Lynda Wilson
Sorry to say, but I had my kitten neutered at 6 mos. of age (at the time we did 
not know he was positive because he actually tested neg for it when he was much 
younger). He died at 9 mos of severe anemia & other complications due to being 
FeLV positive.  I don't know if getting him neutered triggered this but now I'm 
wondering since you've mentioned this.  Has anyone else heard of this?
  - Original Message - 
  From: dppl dppl 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, January 02, 2012 11:25 AM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat


  I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He 
seems to be
  healthy at this time and  around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have 
him
  neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive cat,
  claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered
  their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your 
experience?
  Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet give
  vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She sent 
the 
  blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that 
same visit
  when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations.


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Re: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-02 Thread lernermichelle

 I have. Have not seen any problem from it, but I do think it could trigger an 
upper respiratory infection or other problems like any stressful event. The 
thing is, remaining unneutered is a big source of stress, much bigger in my 
opinion than the surgery. Keeping an intact male from roaming or mating will 
result much restlessness and anxiety on his part. Unneutered cats generally 
have trouble keeping weight on and are less healthy, because so much energy 
goes into the reproductive system and behavior. Neutered cats are much calmer 
and healthier. For this reason, I would get him neutered. I have never seen a 
vet refuse to neuter a positive cat. Even the low-cost clinic we use does it. 

Michelle

 

 

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From: dppl dppl 
To: felvtalk 
Sent: Mon, Jan 2, 2012 12:26 pm
Subject: [Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat



I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He seems 
to be
healthy at this time and  around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have him
neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive cat,
claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered
their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your 
experience?
Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet give
vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She sent 
the 
blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that 
same visit
when blood was drawn, she went ahead and did vaccinations.

 
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[Felvtalk] neutering a positive cat

2012-01-02 Thread dppl dppl
I still have Mitt, the kitten I found in October who tested positive. He seems 
to be
healthy at this time and  around 7-8 months old. I am thinking I should have him
neutered but the local humane society refused to do surgery on a positive cat,
claiming surgery could trigger an immune system problem. Has anyone neutered
their positive cat after finding out it was positive and what was your 
experience?
Thanks for any input. PS: Someone asked my in a prior posting why the vet give
vaccinations before getting blood work results that showed positive. She sent 
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blookwork to an outside lad since she said it would be less costly and that 
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