Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations
Marsha, The post I was responding to was about Veterinary treatment of un-vaccinated animals, not boarding. That was my focus. Still, that requirement for boarded animals to be vaccinated is not very effective, anyway. Most facilities allow the required vaccines to be given on intake, meaning that (unless they are long-term boarders) they will not develop any immunity before they leave the facility. Not very reassuring to me. But profitable for those providing the vaccines. But I don't board. I guess people who board their pets have researched the issues, and are comfortable with the procedures in place. Margo -Original Message- From: Marsha mar...@lynxe.com Sent: Aug 15, 2014 9:11 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 6 Vets who have a boarding service will require vaccinations before boarding the animal, as will any boarding facility. Marsha On 8/15/2014 5:49 AM, Margo wrote: Really? I've never run into that, but maybe I just stayed away from them for other reasons. Sounds like they ae in it for the money. Because most of mine came from rescue situations, there vaccination status was unknown. I can't remember it ever being an issue when the cat needed help. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Fw: Re: vaccinations
-Forwarded Message- From: Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net Sent: Aug 16, 2014 7:39 AM To: Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] vaccinations Shelley, It is now available; http://www.merial.com/EN/PressRoom/PressRelease/Pages/Merial-Introduces-PUREVAX%C2%AE-Feline-Rabies-3-YR-Vaccine.aspx I don't think most Vets will carry it. The Vets will have to charge $60-70 for it, and that probaby won't fly with most clients. I talked to my Vet about it, and we came to the conclusion that they would likely not use the full tray before it expired, and even I understand that that's too much expense. I am considering asking if she can buy one full tray and come out and do a mass vaccine day for me. HTH Margo -Original Message- From: Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net Sent: Aug 15, 2014 9:38 AM To: Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net, felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] vaccinations Margo, I don't think there is a 3 year Purevax Rabies yet is there? I thought I read somewhere that it might last longer than a year, which it is listed as now, but that they hadn't officially decided to call it a 3 year. I would love to only have to think about this every 3 years! Shelley On Aug 14, 2014, at 3:06 PM, Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote: Why do the rabies? I would do the fvrcp before the rabies and i won't so either one. If your cat is not outside at all, which especially with being positive i think not, and you don't have rabid animals around, again, probably not the case, why on earth would you give a rabies shot to a positive cat? The law is ot going to be enforced in your home it's not a big deal, but over vaccinating a positive cat is a big deal. They have that antibody problem of course and rabies vaccines are done to develop antibodies. First, because it is mandated by law. It is not likely that an indoor cat will be exposed to rabies, but it can happen. Second because not being vaccinated puts the cat at risk should it somehow manage to bite or scratch someone. Much depends on local ordinances, but there can be severe consequences to having an unvaccinated pet (to the pet) should the person injured decide to push. My positives are current at the moment, but when it comes time to re-vaccinate, I will request a waiver. BUT! That will not change the protocol should they be involved in an injury to a human. More likely I will find somewhere to get them the 3 year Purevax rabies. Would you clarify your comment about an antibody problem? They have that antibody problem of course and rabies vaccines are done to develop antibodies. I'm afraid I don't quite understand. Thanks, Mago -Original Message- From: Kat Parker Sent: Aug 14, 2014 1:22 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 5, Issue 6 Why do the rabies? I would do the fvrcp before the rabies and i won't so either one. If your cat is not outside at all, which especially with being positive i think not, and you don't have rabid animals around, again, probably not the case, why on earth would you give a rabies shot to a positive cat? The law is ot going to be enforced in your home it's not a big deal, but over vaccinating a positive cat is a big deal. They have that antibody problem of course and rabies vaccines are done to develop antibodies. On Thursday, August 14, 2014, wrote: Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org You can reach the person managing the list at felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: fvrcp vaccines- yes or no? (Shelley Theye) 2. Re: New have question (dlg...@windstream.net ) 3. Re: FELV contagious (dlg...@windstream.net ) -- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2014 13:44:06 -0400 From: Shelley Theye To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] fvrcp vaccines- yes or no? Message-ID: 79d7a665-5346-488d-90a8-62c6c5664...@bellsouth.net Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Hi Lance, I am not sure! I will ask her. She is pretty great. Didn't even consider euth. when he tested positive. Went ahead and neutered Leo and told me the news later that day. I just keep thinking about what the folks on this list said last year when I asked, that their cats became sick after vaccinating. Thanks for letting me
Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations
Good point about giving vaccines on intake. It is not effective to protect other cats, or the ones being vaccinated. I have boarded at a veterinarian's office a few times in the past, when I had fewer cats. And once in the distant past at a pet store that had a boarding room (no dogs). I do not intend on ever boarding again, because it is just too stressful for cats, especially if the facility also boards dogs. The vet's office even gave my cats one of the exam rooms all for themselves. I checked in every day on my trip, and they told me verbally the cats were doing great, but I made them send pictures, and my cats looked very unhappy. Marsha On 8/16/2014 6:32 AM, Margo wrote: Marsha, The post I was responding to was about Veterinary treatment of un-vaccinated animals, not boarding. That was my focus. Still, that requirement for boarded animals to be vaccinated is not very effective, anyway. Most facilities allow the required vaccines to be given on intake, meaning that (unless they are long-term boarders) they will not develop any immunity before they leave the facility. Not very reassuring to me. But profitable for those providing the vaccines. But I don't board. I guess people who board their pets have researched the issues, and are comfortable with the procedures in place. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Re: vaccinations
Awesome! Thanks for that link and the note about the expense! I, too, might look into a mass vaccination day. Marsha Margo wrote: Shelley, It is now available; http://www.merial.com/EN/PressRoom/PressRelease/Pages/Merial-Introduces-PUREVAX%C2%AE-Feline-Rabies-3-YR-Vaccine.aspx I don't think most Vets will carry it. The Vets will have to charge $60-70 for it, and that probaby won't fly with most clients. I talked to my Vet about it, and we came to the conclusion that they would likely not use the full tray before it expired, and even I understand that that's too much expense. I am considering asking if she can buy one full tray and come out and do a mass vaccine day for me. HTH Margo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Vaccinations, Harley, Bats
Unfortunately, Yahoo mail is bundling all my mail on one subject and sending off thousand word bundles so that they crash into the group mailbox and overload it. That's why I'm writing separately without the thread. Fortunately, I have never had a cat display a bad reaction to the rabies vaccination even though it's given at the same time as spay/neuter surgery. However, consider that giving vaccinations does overload the immune system at least until the cat develops the required immunity. NEVER give anything but the rabies vaccination if the cat is going into surgery and spay/neuter is major surgery. Think hysterectomy and castration. In humans this would be major surgery. It really irks me when people seem to think it's fine to overload a cat or dog with a bunch of vaccinations at the same time that they are getting surgery and the vets go along with it gleefully because it means more money for them. FVRCP is OK for kittens but again, not at the time of spay/neuter surgery and not along with the rabies vaccination. And not if they are FeLv+ or FIV+. And for all you humans out there, the flu shot is less than useful in preventing you from catching flu. It's great for the manufacturers of the vaccine though. Made millions for them and it might protect against Asian Flu #1 but not against Asian Flu #2 and that's what the doctors tell you if you come back complaining that you got the flu anyway. Just keep sneezing cats away from your own brood and keep away from sneezing and coughing people during flu season. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
