Re: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol

[Amani Oakley]

Sherri

I also should have mentioned the very important requirement that the vet should 
put Bogie on Doxycycline as well. I always forget this. I forget because my 
Zander was originally on Doxycycline and it was not helping, and I don't think 
it can on its own, so I always forget the vital role it played in Zander's 
recovery. While the Winstrol/prednisone is building up the body and increasing 
red cell production, Doxycycline acts to inhibit RNA replication, which is how 
the virus reproduces. Doxycycline is an antibiotic, and everyone will tell you 
that it can't kill a virus, and it doesn't. However, it prevents the numbers of 
the virus from continuing to climb, while the body is repairing itself.

This is a key part of the treatment in my opinion. Otherwise, as you're 
fighting to increase the red cell count and the other cell lines with the 
Winstrol, the virus just keeps killing other cells. (That's how viruses 
replicate - they infiltrate a cell, and commandeer it's cellular machinery, and 
"force" the cell to produce millions more viruses. The cell then explodes, or 
dies, releasing all these new viruses into the system. The Doxycycline helps to 
interfere with this process.)

Sorry - I should have mentioned this before (and I have in dozens of my posts), 
but, of course, the stumbling block usually is getting the Winstrol.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherri 
Godschalk
Sent: August-26-16 5:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol

Amani,
Thanks for all the valuable information. It actually calms me.
He has a lab in house and these were the results from this week. (I don't have 
any from the prior visits to the other vet, but the new vet does)
RBC  2.43 M/ul   6.65-12.2LOW
HCT15.3 % 30.3-52.3  LOW
HGB 5.3 g/dL   9.8-16.2  LOW
MCV   62.6 fl35.9-53.1 HIGH
MCH  21.8 pg  11.8-17.3  HIGH
RETIC 61.5 K/ul 3.0-50.0  HIGH
LYM7.75 K/uL0.92-6.88HIGH
MONO   1.58 K/uL0.05-0.67HIGH
EOS 0.10 K/uL   0.17-1.57 LOW
BASO  0.00 K/uL   0.01-.26   LOW
PLT 50 K/uL   151-600   LOW
I haven't got the chance to research what all of this means. There were several 
other levels on this sheet that were all within range.  Do you see ANYTHING 
positive in these results? The first 6 look very bad to me.
Thanks again for writing.

From: Felvtalk 
>
 on behalf of Amani Oakley 
>
Reply-To: >
Date: Friday, August 26, 2016 at 3:29 PM
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol

Sherri

Don't be disappointed. The key is that the haematocrit is starting to rise and 
is not going down any further. Remember how few days the drug has had to work. 
It is literally having to go into bone marrow and turn back on progenitor cells 
in the bone marrow that have been infiltrated by the FeLV virus, and are 
therefore destroyed or inactive. Also, did he do a reticulocyte count? That 
should hopefully also start going up because those are one of the immature 
forms of the red cells. Another is nucleated red blood cells. At maturity, the 
red cells lose the nucleus (except in birds and maybe reptiles). However, the 
instrument used to count the red cells cannot differentiate a nucleated red 
cell from a white cell (which will have a nucleus) so unless there is a manual 
count done, the automated instrument results may count any nucleated red cells 
as white cells. This isn't too critical, but it will not show you whether any 
of these immature red cell forms are developing.

Also, while the haematocrit is important, you should also look at the platelet 
count (which, I remember correctly, was low for Bogie) and the white cell 
counts. I found that the Winstrol started improving all the different cell 
lines, though admittedly, it appeared that the improvement started with the red 
cells.

I am not sure I agree with your vet taking Bogie off the Winstrol though, 
because it is an anabolic steroid and is literally rebuilding bone, muscle, 
etc. With a debilitated cat, I think you've got to keep them on for a long 
while. However, your vet has been helpful and more progressive than most, so . 
. .

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherri 
Godschalk
Sent: August-26-16 7:03 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol

Thanks Ardy.
We had Bogeys first blood test after 7 days and her HCT was only still at 15.4. 
Slight 

Re: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol

[dlgegg]

Here is hope for continued good results.

 Amani Oakley  wrote: 
> Hi Sherri
> 
> Yes, I do see something positive. As I mentioned in my previous email, the 
> reticulocyte count ("retic") is a count showing immature red cells. Normally, 
> red cells are not pushed out of the bone marrow into the general circulation 
> of the blood, until they are mature, though a small percentage may be in the 
> bloodstream at all times. The presence of an elevated number of reticulocytes 
> says to me that the bone marrow is starting to create new red cells and 
> because the body is short of red cells (anemic), the bone marrow is pushing 
> out more of the red cells in their immature form, into the circulation. This 
> is the body trying to correct the anemia.
> 
> You definitely need the previous results though, to identify if you are 
> moving in the right direction on the other parameters.
> 
> Amani
> 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> Sherri Godschalk
> Sent: August-26-16 5:34 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol
> 
> Amani,
> Thanks for all the valuable information. It actually calms me.
> He has a lab in house and these were the results from this week. (I don't 
> have any from the prior visits to the other vet, but the new vet does)
> RBC  2.43 M/ul   6.65-12.2LOW
> HCT15.3 % 30.3-52.3  LOW
> HGB 5.3 g/dL   9.8-16.2  LOW
> MCV   62.6 fl35.9-53.1 HIGH
> MCH  21.8 pg  11.8-17.3  HIGH
> RETIC 61.5 K/ul 3.0-50.0  HIGH
> LYM7.75 K/uL0.92-6.88HIGH
> MONO   1.58 K/uL0.05-0.67HIGH
> EOS 0.10 K/uL   0.17-1.57 LOW
> BASO  0.00 K/uL   0.01-.26   LOW
> PLT 50 K/uL   151-600   LOW
> I haven't got the chance to research what all of this means. There were 
> several other levels on this sheet that were all within range.  Do you see 
> ANYTHING positive in these results? The first 6 look very bad to me.
> Thanks again for writing.
> 
> From: Felvtalk 
> >
>  on behalf of Amani Oakley 
> >
> Reply-To: >
> Date: Friday, August 26, 2016 at 3:29 PM
> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
> >
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol
> 
> Sherri
> 
> Don't be disappointed. The key is that the haematocrit is starting to rise 
> and is not going down any further. Remember how few days the drug has had to 
> work. It is literally having to go into bone marrow and turn back on 
> progenitor cells in the bone marrow that have been infiltrated by the FeLV 
> virus, and are therefore destroyed or inactive. Also, did he do a 
> reticulocyte count? That should hopefully also start going up because those 
> are one of the immature forms of the red cells. Another is nucleated red 
> blood cells. At maturity, the red cells lose the nucleus (except in birds and 
> maybe reptiles). However, the instrument used to count the red cells cannot 
> differentiate a nucleated red cell from a white cell (which will have a 
> nucleus) so unless there is a manual count done, the automated instrument 
> results may count any nucleated red cells as white cells. This isn't too 
> critical, but it will not show you whether any of these immature red cell 
> forms are developing.
> 
> Also, while the haematocrit is important, you should also look at the 
> platelet count (which, I remember correctly, was low for Bogie) and the white 
> cell counts. I found that the Winstrol started improving all the different 
> cell lines, though admittedly, it appeared that the improvement started with 
> the red cells.
> 
> I am not sure I agree with your vet taking Bogie off the Winstrol though, 
> because it is an anabolic steroid and is literally rebuilding bone, muscle, 
> etc. With a debilitated cat, I think you've got to keep them on for a long 
> while. However, your vet has been helpful and more progressive than most, so 
> . . .
> 
> Amani
> 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> Sherri Godschalk
> Sent: August-26-16 7:03 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol
> 
> Thanks Ardy.
> We had Bogeys first blood test after 7 days and her HCT was only still at 
> 15.4. Slight increase. She is pretty functional at this level. Still sleeping 
> a lot. But eats, goes up and down stairs, bats at the dogs. The vet didn't 
> seem surprised that it hadn't gone up more. It hadn't gone down. Considers 
> her "stable". He doesn't want to see her for a month to test 

Re: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol

[Amani Oakley]

Hi Sherri

Yes, I do see something positive. As I mentioned in my previous email, the 
reticulocyte count ("retic") is a count showing immature red cells. Normally, 
red cells are not pushed out of the bone marrow into the general circulation of 
the blood, until they are mature, though a small percentage may be in the 
bloodstream at all times. The presence of an elevated number of reticulocytes 
says to me that the bone marrow is starting to create new red cells and because 
the body is short of red cells (anemic), the bone marrow is pushing out more of 
the red cells in their immature form, into the circulation. This is the body 
trying to correct the anemia.

You definitely need the previous results though, to identify if you are moving 
in the right direction on the other parameters.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherri 
Godschalk
Sent: August-26-16 5:34 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol

Amani,
Thanks for all the valuable information. It actually calms me.
He has a lab in house and these were the results from this week. (I don't have 
any from the prior visits to the other vet, but the new vet does)
RBC  2.43 M/ul   6.65-12.2LOW
HCT15.3 % 30.3-52.3  LOW
HGB 5.3 g/dL   9.8-16.2  LOW
MCV   62.6 fl35.9-53.1 HIGH
MCH  21.8 pg  11.8-17.3  HIGH
RETIC 61.5 K/ul 3.0-50.0  HIGH
LYM7.75 K/uL0.92-6.88HIGH
MONO   1.58 K/uL0.05-0.67HIGH
EOS 0.10 K/uL   0.17-1.57 LOW
BASO  0.00 K/uL   0.01-.26   LOW
PLT 50 K/uL   151-600   LOW
I haven't got the chance to research what all of this means. There were several 
other levels on this sheet that were all within range.  Do you see ANYTHING 
positive in these results? The first 6 look very bad to me.
Thanks again for writing.

From: Felvtalk 
>
 on behalf of Amani Oakley 
>
Reply-To: >
Date: Friday, August 26, 2016 at 3:29 PM
To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
>
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol

Sherri

Don't be disappointed. The key is that the haematocrit is starting to rise and 
is not going down any further. Remember how few days the drug has had to work. 
It is literally having to go into bone marrow and turn back on progenitor cells 
in the bone marrow that have been infiltrated by the FeLV virus, and are 
therefore destroyed or inactive. Also, did he do a reticulocyte count? That 
should hopefully also start going up because those are one of the immature 
forms of the red cells. Another is nucleated red blood cells. At maturity, the 
red cells lose the nucleus (except in birds and maybe reptiles). However, the 
instrument used to count the red cells cannot differentiate a nucleated red 
cell from a white cell (which will have a nucleus) so unless there is a manual 
count done, the automated instrument results may count any nucleated red cells 
as white cells. This isn't too critical, but it will not show you whether any 
of these immature red cell forms are developing.

Also, while the haematocrit is important, you should also look at the platelet 
count (which, I remember correctly, was low for Bogie) and the white cell 
counts. I found that the Winstrol started improving all the different cell 
lines, though admittedly, it appeared that the improvement started with the red 
cells.

I am not sure I agree with your vet taking Bogie off the Winstrol though, 
because it is an anabolic steroid and is literally rebuilding bone, muscle, 
etc. With a debilitated cat, I think you've got to keep them on for a long 
while. However, your vet has been helpful and more progressive than most, so . 
. .

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherri 
Godschalk
Sent: August-26-16 7:03 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol

Thanks Ardy.
We had Bogeys first blood test after 7 days and her HCT was only still at 15.4. 
Slight increase. She is pretty functional at this level. Still sleeping a lot. 
But eats, goes up and down stairs, bats at the dogs. The vet didn't seem 
surprised that it hadn't gone up more. It hadn't gone down. Considers her 
"stable". He doesn't want to see her for a month to test again. He wants her to 
be off of the Stanozolol for one week starting next Wed and then put her back 
on it the following week for two more.

I was a bit disappointed that her blood results weren't better although I could 
tell just with her energy level that she hadn't improved much. 

Re: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol

[Sherri Godschalk]

Amani,
Thanks for all the valuable information. It actually calms me.
He has a lab in house and these were the results from this week. (I don¹t
have any from the prior visits to the other vet, but the new vet does)
RBC  2.43 M/ul   6.65-12.2LOW
HCT15.3 % 30.3-52.3  LOW
HGB 5.3 g/dL   9.8-16.2  LOW
MCV   62.6 fl35.9-53.1 HIGH
MCH  21.8 pg  11.8-17.3  HIGH
RETIC 61.5 K/ul 3.0-50.0  HIGH
LYM7.75 K/uL0.92-6.88HIGH
MONO   1.58 K/uL0.05-0.67HIGH
EOS 0.10 K/uL   0.17-1.57 LOW
BASO  0.00 K/uL   0.01-.26   LOW
PLT 50 K/uL   151-600   LOW
I haven¹t got the chance to research what all of this means. There were
several other levels on this sheet that were all within range.  Do you see
ANYTHING positive in these results? The first 6 look very bad to me.
Thanks again for writing.

From:  Felvtalk  on behalf of Amani
Oakley 
Reply-To:  
Date:  Friday, August 26, 2016 at 3:29 PM
To:  "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" 
Subject:  Re: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol

Sherri
 
Don¹t be disappointed. The key is that the haematocrit is starting to rise
and is not going down any further. Remember how few days the drug has had to
work. It is literally having to go into bone marrow and turn back on
progenitor cells in the bone marrow that have been infiltrated by the FeLV
virus, and are therefore destroyed or inactive. Also, did he do a
reticulocyte count? That should hopefully also start going up because those
are one of the immature forms of the red cells. Another is nucleated red
blood cells. At maturity, the red cells lose the nucleus (except in birds
and maybe reptiles). However, the instrument used to count the red cells
cannot differentiate a nucleated red cell from a white cell (which will have
a nucleus) so unless there is a manual count done, the automated instrument
results may count any nucleated red cells as white cells. This isn¹t too
critical, but it will not show you whether any of these immature red cell
forms are developing.
 
Also, while the haematocrit is important, you should also look at the
platelet count (which, I remember correctly, was low for Bogie) and the
white cell counts. I found that the Winstrol started improving all the
different cell lines, though admittedly, it appeared that the improvement
started with the red cells.
 
I am not sure I agree with your vet taking Bogie off the Winstrol though,
because it is an anabolic steroid and is literally rebuilding bone, muscle,
etc. With a debilitated cat, I think you¹ve got to keep them on for a long
while. However, your vet has been helpful and more progressive than most, so
. . . 
 
Amani
 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Sherri Godschalk
Sent: August-26-16 7:03 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol
 

Thanks Ardy.

We had Bogeys first blood test after 7 days and her HCT was only still at
15.4. Slight increase. She is pretty functional at this level. Still
sleeping a lot. But eats, goes up and down stairs, bats at the dogs. The vet
didn¹t seem surprised that it hadn¹t gone up more. It hadn¹t gone down.
Considers her ³stable². He doesn¹t want to see her for a month to test
again. He wants her to be off of the Stanozolol for one week starting next
Wed and then put her back on it the following week for two more.

 

I was a bit disappointed that her blood results weren¹t better although I
could tell just with her energy level that she hadn¹t improved much.
Hopefully she just needs more time on it for it to take hold. I wish there
was something more that I could do. I feel so helpless.

 

Thanks for writing,

 

From: Felvtalk  on behalf of Ardy
Robertson 
Reply-To: 
Date: Friday, August 26, 2016 at 12:07 AM
To: 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol

 

Best wishes to you Sherri and to Bogie!! I do believe this drug combo
(Stanozolol and Prednisone) helped my Tigger also, it¹s just that I started
him on it too late. Tigger¹s bloodwork showed amazing improvement but I
believe his diagnosis was very late since he had tested negative as a
kitten, and at age 5 years they told me he had it since kittenhood but must
have been shedding the virus when tested. I sincerely hope Bogie can benefit
from this treatment since she is younger at her diagnosis. Also very happy
that you have a cooperating vet!
 

Ardy
 
 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Amani Oakley
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 9:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol
 
Hi Sherri
 
I am happy to hear of 

Re: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol

[Amani Oakley]

Sherri

Don't be disappointed. The key is that the haematocrit is starting to rise and 
is not going down any further. Remember how few days the drug has had to work. 
It is literally having to go into bone marrow and turn back on progenitor cells 
in the bone marrow that have been infiltrated by the FeLV virus, and are 
therefore destroyed or inactive. Also, did he do a reticulocyte count? That 
should hopefully also start going up because those are one of the immature 
forms of the red cells. Another is nucleated red blood cells. At maturity, the 
red cells lose the nucleus (except in birds and maybe reptiles). However, the 
instrument used to count the red cells cannot differentiate a nucleated red 
cell from a white cell (which will have a nucleus) so unless there is a manual 
count done, the automated instrument results may count any nucleated red cells 
as white cells. This isn't too critical, but it will not show you whether any 
of these immature red cell forms are developing.

Also, while the haematocrit is important, you should also look at the platelet 
count (which, I remember correctly, was low for Bogie) and the white cell 
counts. I found that the Winstrol started improving all the different cell 
lines, though admittedly, it appeared that the improvement started with the red 
cells.

I am not sure I agree with your vet taking Bogie off the Winstrol though, 
because it is an anabolic steroid and is literally rebuilding bone, muscle, 
etc. With a debilitated cat, I think you've got to keep them on for a long 
while. However, your vet has been helpful and more progressive than most, so . 
. .

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherri 
Godschalk
Sent: August-26-16 7:03 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol

Thanks Ardy.
We had Bogeys first blood test after 7 days and her HCT was only still at 15.4. 
Slight increase. She is pretty functional at this level. Still sleeping a lot. 
But eats, goes up and down stairs, bats at the dogs. The vet didn't seem 
surprised that it hadn't gone up more. It hadn't gone down. Considers her 
"stable". He doesn't want to see her for a month to test again. He wants her to 
be off of the Stanozolol for one week starting next Wed and then put her back 
on it the following week for two more.

I was a bit disappointed that her blood results weren't better although I could 
tell just with her energy level that she hadn't improved much. Hopefully she 
just needs more time on it for it to take hold. I wish there was something more 
that I could do. I feel so helpless.

Thanks for writing,

From: Felvtalk 
>
 on behalf of Ardy Robertson >
Reply-To: >
Date: Friday, August 26, 2016 at 12:07 AM
To: >
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol

Best wishes to you Sherri and to Bogie!! I do believe this drug combo 
(Stanozolol and Prednisone) helped my Tigger also, it's just that I started him 
on it too late. Tigger's bloodwork showed amazing improvement but I believe his 
diagnosis was very late since he had tested negative as a kitten, and at age 5 
years they told me he had it since kittenhood but must have been shedding the 
virus when tested. I sincerely hope Bogie can benefit from this treatment since 
she is younger at her diagnosis. Also very happy that you have a cooperating 
vet!

Ardy


From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 9:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol

Hi Sherri

I am happy to hear of your experience so far, but like you, I held my breath 
for a very long time with Zander.

Please keep us all updated.

Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sherri 
Godschalk
Sent: August-21-16 10:36 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol

I wanted to update everyone here about how this medication is affecting the 
health of my FELV positive 1 year old kitten.

Bogie got her diagnosis just under 3 weeks ago. The first vet I saw tried 
Prednisone and an antibiotic for 2 weeks and it did nothing for here severe 
anemia. (Her only symptom) I was told at that time that there was nothing that 
could help her and to just keep her comfortable as she dies.

Changed vets.

New vet...Was prescribed 2mg of Stanozolol once a day along with the Pred once 
a day. This morning, Bogie got her 5th dose of Stanozolol. She appears to be 
less anemic. Has more energy, sleeping less and more interested in playing and 
is 

Re: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol

[dlgegg]

Keeping this info for Annie, just in case.  

 Ardy Robertson  wrote: 
> Best wishes to you Sherri and to Bogie!! I do believe this drug combo
> (Stanozolol and Prednisone) helped my Tigger also, it's just that I started
> him on it too late. Tigger's bloodwork showed amazing improvement but I
> believe his diagnosis was very late since he had tested negative as a
> kitten, and at age 5 years they told me he had it since kittenhood but must
> have been shedding the virus when tested. I sincerely hope Bogie can benefit
> from this treatment since she is younger at her diagnosis. Also very happy
> that you have a cooperating vet!
> 
>  
> 
> Ardy
> 
>  
> 
>  
> 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Amani Oakley
> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 9:30 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol
> 
>  
> 
> Hi Sherri
> 
>  
> 
> I am happy to hear of your experience so far, but like you, I held my breath
> for a very long time with Zander.
> 
>  
> 
> Please keep us all updated.
> 
>  
> 
> Amani
> 
>  
> 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
> Sherri Godschalk
> Sent: August-21-16 10:36 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  
> Subject: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol
> 
>  
> 
> I wanted to update everyone here about how this medication is affecting the
> health of my FELV positive 1 year old kitten.
> 
>  
> 
> Bogie got her diagnosis just under 3 weeks ago. The first vet I saw tried
> Prednisone and an antibiotic for 2 weeks and it did nothing for here severe
> anemia. (Her only symptom) I was told at that time that there was nothing
> that could help her and to just keep her comfortable as she dies. 
> 
>  
> 
> Changed vets.
> 
>  
> 
> New vet.Was prescribed 2mg of Stanozolol once a day along with the Pred once
> a day. This morning, Bogie got her 5th dose of Stanozolol. She appears to be
> less anemic. Has more energy, sleeping less and more interested in playing
> and is eating and drinking well enough on her own. Her gums are slightly
> more pink as well. There hasn't been any side effects that I have seen with
> this combination. Except I have to pill her twice a day but she is getting
> used to that a little bit. 
> 
>  
> 
> I don't want to speak to soon, but I believe just from how she is acting,
> that this drug is helping my kitten make some red blood cells. She goes in
> this week for a blood test so I will know if it is actually doing that .
> Today is the happiest day we have had in the house in over a month. 
> 
>  
> 
> I will reply to this thread to keep the group posted. 
> 
>  
> 
> Wish us luck!
> 
>  
> 
> Best.
> 
> Sherri
> 


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Re: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol

[Sherri Godschalk]

Thanks Ardy.
We had Bogeys first blood test after 7 days and her HCT was only still at
15.4. Slight increase. She is pretty functional at this level. Still
sleeping a lot. But eats, goes up and down stairs, bats at the dogs. The vet
didn¹t seem surprised that it hadn¹t gone up more. It hadn¹t gone down.
Considers her ³stable². He doesn¹t want to see her for a month to test
again. He wants her to be off of the Stanozolol for one week starting next
Wed and then put her back on it the following week for two more.

I was a bit disappointed that her blood results weren¹t better although I
could tell just with her energy level that she hadn¹t improved much.
Hopefully she just needs more time on it for it to take hold. I wish there
was something more that I could do. I feel so helpless.

Thanks for writing,

From:  Felvtalk  on behalf of Ardy
Robertson 
Reply-To:  
Date:  Friday, August 26, 2016 at 12:07 AM
To:  
Subject:  Re: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol

Best wishes to you Sherri and to Bogie!! I do believe this drug combo
(Stanozolol and Prednisone) helped my Tigger also, it¹s just that I started
him on it too late. Tigger¹s bloodwork showed amazing improvement but I
believe his diagnosis was very late since he had tested negative as a
kitten, and at age 5 years they told me he had it since kittenhood but must
have been shedding the virus when tested. I sincerely hope Bogie can benefit
from this treatment since she is younger at her diagnosis. Also very happy
that you have a cooperating vet!
 

Ardy
 
 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Amani Oakley
Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2016 9:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol
 
Hi Sherri
 
I am happy to hear of your experience so far, but like you, I held my breath
for a very long time with Zander.
 
Please keep us all updated.
 
Amani
 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Sherri Godschalk
Sent: August-21-16 10:36 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Bogie's First 5 days on Stanozolol
 

I wanted to update everyone here about how this medication is affecting the
health of my FELV positive 1 year old kitten.

 

Bogie got her diagnosis just under 3 weeks ago. The first vet I saw tried
Prednisone and an antibiotic for 2 weeks and it did nothing for here severe
anemia. (Her only symptom) I was told at that time that there was nothing
that could help her and to just keep her comfortable as she dies.

 

Changed vets.

 

New vetŠWas prescribed 2mg of Stanozolol once a day along with the Pred once
a day. This morning, Bogie got her 5th dose of Stanozolol. She appears to be
less anemic. Has more energy, sleeping less and more interested in playing
and is eating and drinking well enough on her own. Her gums are slightly
more pink as well. There hasn¹t been any side effects that I have seen with
this combination. Except I have to pill her twice a day but she is getting
used to that a little bit.

 

I don¹t want to speak to soon, but I believe just from how she is acting,
that this drug is helping my kitten make some red blood cells. She goes in
this week for a blood test so I will know if it is actually doing that .
Today is the happiest day we have had in the house in over a month.

 

I will reply to this thread to keep the group posted.

 

Wish us luck!

 

Best.

Sherri
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