Re: [Felvtalk] Hyper thyroid in cats

2019-04-21 Thread dlg...@windstream.net
Have that on my plate, but so far no GI problems, in fact she has not up 
chucked once since we started it.  also watching boxes, no loose stools either. 
 She has in fact been less irritable with Harley and has settled into her old 
routine.  also not eating as much.  I plan to weigh her Monday to be sure she 
has not lost weight.  she has a follow up vet appt in 4 weeks.Thank everyone 
for your help, I am not looking to loosing anyone soon.  In fact I have made 
arrangements with a no kill shelter in St. Louis to take all 3 when I pass.  
They will keep up with any meds and continue their favorite food.  A member of 
my church will drive them in with their toys, beds, condos, etc.  at 78, is 
likely I will go first.  have this locked into my will.
- Original Message -
From: Lorraine Johnston 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sun, 21 Apr 2019 14:51:09 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hyper thyroid in cats

You might also want to consider the methimazole gel that can be rubbed onto 
the inside of the tip of the ear. We’ve had great luck with that. It bypasses 
all the GI upset that oral methimazole can cause. - Lorraine On April 18, 2019 
at 3:12 PM "dlg...@windstream.net"  wrote:Hello 
everyoone,
I have a 12 year old former feral who was diagnosed with hyper thyroid 
yesterday.  Herm level is 4.7 and she is one meds, 2.5mg of Felimazole morning 
and evening.  I had one cat about 10 years ago that we did radioactive iodine.  
the isolation was very hard
on her and she went downhill after she got home, bleeeding from nose, etc.  
don't really want to repeat that.  Homey is especially bonded with me and has 
been my caregiver since my heart surgery.  she has alerted me to one time of 
gasping for air in the night
and 3 instances of low sugar.  she sleeps plastered to my chest and when she is 
on my lap, holds on to me .  I am very attached to her and do not want to loose 
her so am hoping meds work.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Hyper thyroid in cats

2019-04-21 Thread Lorraine Johnston
You might also want to consider the methimazole gel that can be rubbed onto the 
inside of the tip of the ear. We’ve had great luck with that. It bypasses all 
the GI upset that oral methimazole can cause.

 

- Lorraine

 

On April 18, 2019 at 3:12 PM "dlg...@windstream.net"  
wrote:

Hello everyoone,


I have a 12 year old former feral who was diagnosed with hyper thyroid 
yesterday.  Herm level is 4.7 and she is one meds, 2.5mg of Felimazole morning 
and evening.  I had one cat about 10 years ago that we did radioactive iodine.  
the isolation was very hard
on her and she went downhill after she got home, bleeeding from nose, etc.  
don't really want to repeat that.  Homey is especially bonded with me and has 
been my caregiver since my heart surgery.  she has alerted me to one time of 
gasping for air in the night
and 3 instances of low sugar.  she sleeps plastered to my chest and when she is 
on my lap, holds on to me .  I am very attached to her and do not want to loose 
her so am hoping meds work.  

 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Hyper thyroid in cats

2019-04-21 Thread Amani Oakley
I’m keeping my fingers crossed for you and Homey. It is wonderful you have 
found some open-minded vets. Please let us all know if you get good results. 
Certainly, the information I found online strongly suggests CBD Oil is quite 
effective in cases of hyperthyroidism in humans, but I think the trick always 
is in getting the correct strain. Sadly, given the decades of labelling 
everything from the cannabis and hemp plants as criminal, science and medicine 
has lagged far behind in understanding the potential of these plants. My 
understanding is that there are certain strains which have shown excellent 
results with hyperthyroidism, and I myself am still exploring how to obtain the 
strains you need for the conditions you seek to treat. I’m in Canada, and 
although everything is now legal here, it is a mess in terms of understanding 
this stuff. In Ontario, they closed down almost all of the dispensaries and 
small shops which had the expertise in this stuff, and I think that was just a 
bozo move to make. As I understand it, in states like Colorado where they left 
these dispensaries after legalizing medical marijuana, the folks who actually 
understood stuff about the different strains, could be found in those shops to 
guide you.

Hopefully, your vets have resources available to them to ensure that the right 
strains are obtained.

Amani

From: Felvtalk  On Behalf Of 
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: April 21, 2019 11:57 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hyper thyroid in cats

Computer acting up, not sure if my message got thru.
Homey is not felv, Shalie was.  Harley and Dee are not felv and I got them at 
Walmart, lady was giving away.  I chewed her out and she said visitors 
accidently let her out and she became pregnant.  nicely explained that if she 
was not breeding to sell kittens, is best for her cat and herself to get her 
spayed.  I believe in spay/neuter so we don't end up with more kittens to be 
killed on streets, being used to "blood" fighting dogs or killed in shelters.  
Homey was feral.  I am against the Iodine because of the long seperation period 
would be hard on her and the rest of us.  She has always slept on my bed .  
PLUS MY EXPERIENCE with Shali.  Can't do this to another of my fur babies.  I 
have contacted 2 vets who have used medical cannibus with good results and am 
contacting my vets who have been open minded about alternative medicine.  
Hopefully they will be willing to supervise her treatment for me.  downloading 
info from new vets for them.

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From: Amani Oakley mailto:aoak...@oakleylegal.com>>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sat, 20 Apr 2019 20:07:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hyper thyroid in cats



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Re: [Felvtalk] Hyper thyroid in cats

2019-04-21 Thread dlg...@windstream.net
Computer acting up, not sure if my message got thru.Homey is not felv, Shalie 
was.  Harley and Dee are not felv and I got them at Walmart, lady was giving 
away.  I chewed her out and she said visitors accidently let her out and she 
became pregnant.  nicely explained that if she was not breeding to sell 
kittens, is best for her cat and herself to get her spayed.  I believe in 
spay/neuter so we don't end up with more kittens to be killed on streets, being 
used to "blood" fighting dogs or killed in shelters.  Homey was feral.  I am 
against the Iodine because of the long seperation period would be hard on her 
and the rest of us.  She has always slept on my bed .  PLUS MY EXPERIENCE with 
Shali.  Can't do this to another of my fur babies.  I have contacted 2 vets who 
have used medical cannibus with good results and am contacting my vets who have 
been open minded about alternative medicine.  Hopefully they will be willing to 
supervise her treatment for me.  downloading info from new vets for them.


- Original Message -
From: Amani Oakley 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sat, 20 Apr 2019 20:07:38 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hyper thyroid in cats

Got in now. Yes, it’s true that most of our conversations relate to FeLV 
cats, but Dlgegg has a lot of cats (like many of us on this chatline) and we 
also sometimes just see
 if others in the group may have experience with other conditions. Good 
information you have provided regarding hyperthyroidism. Thank you, Amani From: 
Felvtalk 
On Behalf Of Lorraine Johnston
Sent: April 20, 2019 7:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hyper thyroid in cats As this group is FeLVtalk, I 
assumed that cats discussed here are FeLV-positive unless the writer says 
otherwise. 
 Yes, I would indeed hesitate to put a FeLV cat through I-131 therapy. We’ve 
seen many of our rescues go temporarily hypothyroid (ie, underactive thyroid) 
for 2
 or more months as the treatment, after it is administered, gradually kills the 
overactive thyroid nodules and the healthy thyroid tissue has to wake back up. 
This happening is known to veterinarians administering I-131 and is one reason 
they recommend waiting
 to test the thyroid until 60 days after treatment. Sometimes, though, the 
cat’s thyroid becomes oversuppressed because too much tissue was destroyed, and 
the cat needs supplementation with thyroid hormone. In two
 of our cases, permanent supplementation became necessary.  This is meaningful 
to FeLV (and FIV) cats because when the thyroid gland is working too slowly, 
the immune system can also slow down. This has been seen in humans
 and in dogs, so I suspect cats would be affected as well.  So, for my own FIV 
cat and for my cousin’s FeLV kitty who we baby-sit, I wouldn’t use I-131 
therapy without thinking hard about it, especially if the cat is doing well on 
methimazole.  Hope this helps, - Lorraine "Sometimes it is the people no 
one can imagine anything of who do the things no one can imagine."  - Alan 
Turing
 From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
On Behalf Of Amani Oakley
Sent: Saturday, April 20, 2019 5:54 PM
To:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hyper thyroid in cats And in your post, you indicated 
“In spite of our mostly good experiences with I-131, I would think hard before
 putting a FeLV cat through it”. I hadn’t seen a reference to the FeLV status 
of Dlgegg’s cat, and that is what I was referencing. You seemed to be 
suggesting that you had had good experience with the radioactive iodine 
treatment but would reticent to contemplate
 the use of that treatment on a FeLV cat. Amani From: Felvtalk 

On Behalf Of Lorraine Johnston
Sent: April 20, 2019 5:50 PM
To:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hyper thyroid in cats Amani, I’m not sure who you’re 
addressing with this latest message, or what you mean by “don’t
 remember that being mentioned,” but I was responding to the original poster 
(dlg...@windstream.net
– see bottom) who said that her cat is on Felimazole and that one of her prior 
cats did badly after I-131 (radioactive iodine). - Lorraine  Subject: Re: 
[Felvtalk] Hyper thyroid in cats Did I miss something in the original post 
about FeLV? I don’t remember that being mentioned. Anyhow, I would reiterate my 
suggestion to look into CBD Oil if that is also a concern, given the lack of 
any side-effects reported with its use. CBD Oil could be used along
 with the Felimazole, as it would not likely have any interference with the 
other medication, if there was a concern regarding discontinuing one to start 
the other. However, if you get a good result, you would have difficulty knowing 
which was responsible.
 Amani 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Hyper thyroid in cats Hello,We have taken numerous cats 
to Radiocat for iodine-131 treatment -- at least 10 -- in the past 15-20 years. 
In spite of our mostly good experiences with I-131, I would think hard before
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