Re: [Felvtalk] Suzy's Zoo in SC
facebook/suzyszoosanctuary also a simple search in Google will bring many links for her Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Suzy's Zoo in SC
She has both a Facebook page and a website. I have had a few dealings with her in the past know people that have sent FeLV cats to her. She is well known in sanctuary circles and has a very good reputation. Personally I would not worry about sending a cat to her. Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] let's get honest, Chuckie
Thank you Kat, your words could not be more correct. the people here are the best Michael JohnsonFounder/OwnerSecond Chance MeowsA FeLV SanctuaryFrom: Kat Parker To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, May 29, 2012 9:44 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] let's get honest, Chuckie I love this group. I love the people in it. I love the passion the members of this group have for the kitties who are unfortunate enough to meet up with this deadly retrovirus, and the dedication to improving infected cats' lives. Anyone who comes in here with less than the best of intentions for FeLV positive kitties understandably will not be coddled and cosseted. And even the person receiving the "scolding" will understand that it is coming from a place deep in the heart, borne of love and compassion, if they are honestly looking at what is being said to them. I don't believe anyone could possibly be naive enough to NOT SEE where this criticism of them stems from, even if they refuse to state this fact "out loud". lol And, knowing this, the smart thing to do would be to stick around and get a clue, because I am sure that with the desire to do right by their cat, anyone would be welcome and accepted here. In fact, this is what everyone is actually hoping for, I'll bet any money. These people in here are EXPERTS at FeLV+ cats, info, treatment, everything. This is a place you want to be if you have an FeLV+ cat you care about. Miracles of understanding and knowledge happen here. You say you treat them good and care about them/her. Awesome. Just say you want to help the kitties... we can help you help them. Step up, Sir. Do the right thing, please.(**And I agree... Ben does rock! I am in awe. ) Love and Katnip, ~Kat~ =^,,^= "I'm Kat Parker. I park cats." "Spay & neuter your neighbors... maybe THAT will fix the problem.""Keep your kitties INSIDE, 24/7, 'cause an inside cat is a SAFE & HAPPY cat!" http://www.facebook.com/kat.theCRITTERprotector ___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] age related
How Old is My Pet? Correctly Calculate Your Dog or Cat's Age!By Webvet | Pets – Fri, Mar 2, 2012 11:22 AM EST * * * Email * Print By Gayle Hickman Most people think that calculating the age of dogs and cats in "human years" is quite simple: multiply their age by seven. For example, a 4-year-old dog or cat would actually be 28 years old in human years. But when you really begin weighing out the arithmetic, this method doesn't add up. Say a 1-year-old dog is the equivalent of a 7-year-old human -- get out of here! How many 7-year-old humans are sexually active and capable of reproducing? Dogs and cats are much more likely to have babies at 1 year old or even at 10 years old, than any person who is 7 or 70. DOGS Aging is much faster during a dog's first two years but varies among breeds. Large breeds, while they mature quicker, tend to live shorter lives. By the time they reach 5 they are considered "senior" dogs. Medium-sized breeds take around seven years to reach the senior stage, while small and toy breeds do not become seniors until around 10. Related: Top 5 Ways to Improve Life for Your Senior Dog Many veterinarians agree that a pretty good guess on the age of pets can be made using the following formula. Although still simple, it is much more accurate than the seven-year method. Assume that a 1-year-old dog is equal to a 12-year-old human and a 2-year-old dog is equal to a 24-year old human. Then add four years for every year after that. (Example: A 4-year-old dog would be 32 in human years.) Since this method takes into consideration the maturity rate at the beginning of a dog's life and also the slowing of the aging process in his later years, Martha Smith, director of veterinary services at Boston's Animal Rescue League, feels that this is the more accurate calculation formula. Here is a chart, for easy reference: A dog's average lifespan is around 12 or 13 years, but again, this varies widely by breed. The larger your dog is, the less time it will live. Female dogs tend to live a little longer. CATS Now let's take a glimpse at a simple formula for calculating feline age in human years. Assume that a 1-year-old cat is equal to a 15-year-old human and a 2-year-old cat is equal to a 24-year-old human. Then add four years for every year after that. (Example: A 4-year-old cat would be 32 in human years.) The following chart shows this formula of calculation: Check out this and more great stuff from PetsAdviser.com and WebVet.com: How Long are Cats Supposed to Sleep? The Truth About Cats' Nine Lives Dog TV: Programming for Your Pup How to Safely Remove Fleas from Kittens Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Eastern PA - Ottsville
have you gotten any replies to this post Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: GRAS To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, December 27, 2011 2:32 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Eastern PA - Ottsville Great photos available – too large to include here. Can anyone help? Tiny FElv kitten needs rescue or foster Eastern PA Ottsville FeLv pos kitten still needs intake. Can anyone suggest anyplace aside from Aslans, Angels Gate or Best Littlecathouse? Thos options have been exhausted.. Thank you! Contact is Sarah atsaelva...@aol.com - Forwarded Message - From: Sarah V Sent: Tuesday, November 22, 2011 5:19 PM Here is the kitten’s bio: Sweet, little heartling was found under a car after the October 29th snow storm. She has shown nothing but affection since the day she was picked up, and she will melt your heart with every purr. Given the name Jiggy because she does a little jig before she goes after a ball or stuffed mouse. She has the most striking green eyes and whimsical black and white markings. She loves to cuddle up against your cheek with her charcoal black nose and white whiskers. She is a petite, 9 month old and is FeLV+. Besides having Leukemia she is healthy, happy and will gladly sit on your lap and keep you warm. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://fusion2.fusionhost.com/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any contacts for two sweet FelV kittens? NJ
we are in reno Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: "ccarlsb...@gmail.com" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any contacts for two sweet FelV kittens? NJ Nv? Where abouts? I'm in LA (CA) and know of cats who need homes Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile -Original Message----- From: Second Chance Meows Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org Date: Sat, 10 Dec 2011 08:47:53 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any contacts for two sweet FelV kittens? NJ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ accepting--true no-kill rescue list
well we at Second Chance are a NO KILL -- http://secondchancemeows.org Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Kat Parker To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 12:23 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV+ accepting--true no-kill rescue list "True" No Kill Cat Sanctuaries and Shelters Disabled Cats-::- Special Needs Cats-::- FELV Positive Cats-::- FIV Positive Cats-::- Shelters & Sanctuaries Alaska Humane Society Adopt-a-Cat; Alaska The Ark, Inc; Alabama KatsPaw Hospice; Alabama The Hermitage Cat Shelter; Arizona Arizona Feline Network; Arizona Cows Cats and Dog Logs; Arizona Cat Care Society; Colorado Purrs And Whiskers Shelter, Inc. (PAWS); Florida The Harmony House For Cats; Illinois Felines Inc.; Illinois Animal Lifeline of Iowa; Iowa Kitties From Heaven; Iowa C&W Rustic Hollow Shelter; Iowa Holly's Place Animal Rescue; Kentucky Almost Home; Michigan Crash's Landing; Michigan Home For Life; Minnesota Rolling Dog Ranch - Cats; Montana Kitty Angels; Mass. & New Hampshire Felines Enjoying Lives of Value; New Jersey Tabby's Place; New Jersey Pets Alive; New York Animal Haven; New York Spring Farm Cares; New York Safe Haven for Cats; N. Carolina The Marley Fund; N. Carolina Blind Cat Rescue & Sanctuary; N. Carolina Caroline's Kids Pet Rescue; Ohio Best Little Cat House in PA; Pennsylvania 1 by 1 Cat Rescue; Pennsylvania Animal Rescue Inc; Pennsylvania House of Mews; Tennessee The Stray Connection; Tennessee Purrever Ranch; Tennessee Operation Kindness; Texas Best Friends Animal Sanctuary; Utah S.O.S. Save Our Strays, Vermont Friends Of Homeless Animals; Virginia & D.C. Rikki's Refuge; Virginia Perfect Pals FIV Sanctuary; Washington CFA Purebred Rescue - Not entirely no kill, but a valuable resource if dealing with purebred cats Here at Little Cheetah, we believe that any cat that is living a good quality of life, or has an excellent prognosis of recovering to live a good quality of life once rehabilitated DESERVES a chance! We support The Asilomar Accords +1. What does the +1 mean? It's simple, it means that while we support the typical ideals of the general "No Kill" community, it also means we take it one step farther, to include all asymptomatic FELV+ and FIV+ cats, as well as any other cat in danger of being discriminated against due to medical limitation or disability! We take exception to Asilomar Accord Part III, Unhealthy and Untreatable, Paragraph 2: "(2) are suffering from a disease, injury, or congenital or hereditary condition that adversely affects the animal's health or is likely to adversely affect the animal's health in the future, and are not likely to become "healthy" or "treatable" even if provided the care typically provided to pets by reasonable and caring pet owners/guardians in the community;" We feel that it is unfair to condemn an animal to death for something that COULD happen many years in the future. We feel that QUALITY or life is much more important than quantity of life - even short lives deserve to be lived! We also believe that the "typically provided" care that the average pet receives should not be the end all cut off point to which we should "give up" on an animal. Special pets happen, and there ARE special people out there willing to provide exceptional care for EXCEPTIONS to this rule! We believe that there are conditions that are not treatable and that do cause disability, that do not cause suffering, like Cerebellar Hypoplasia, Blindness, and Terminal Heart conditions. We do not feel these cats are candidates for Euthanasia! Then, there's the simple fact... To us, you can't be "No Kill" if you're still routinely euthanising healthy, asymptomatic cats because of a test result! Do you know of another NO KILL shelter or sanctuary that does not kill FELV+ or FIV+ cats? If so, let us know! Little Cheetah Cat Rescue Contact: senti...@ucat.us ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Any contacts for two sweet FelV kittens? NJ
dont know anyone in NJ but we might have room here in Nv Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: GRAS To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 6:47 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any contacts for two sweet FelV kittens? NJ Blind Cat rescue take FeLV positive cats? I contacted them a few months ago about a blind and declawed 9-yr old cat that was found wandering around for two weeks in a rural area – they, and all other blind cat rescues that I was able to find told me “NO”! From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of john pollack Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 9:21 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Any contacts for two sweet FelV kittens? NJ try blind cat rescue in NC From:GRAS To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, December 10, 2011 9:14 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Any contacts for two sweet FelV kittens? NJ Anyone out there with suggestions? Natalie From:Laure AlleyCat AdvoCat [mailto:grisc...@yahoo.com] Sent: Friday, December 09, 2011 9:57 PM Hi there, this is a personal plea- I have a lady who rescued two sweet kittens that were going to be put back outside (not sure of the whole backstory, but I am rushing here),got them to a rescue, only to find that they areFeLV positiveand the rescue says come get them NOW- she is frantic, she had no place to hold them before, and certainly does not now...do you know of anyone or any rescue that might have room for two Felv+ kittens? Thank you guys hopefully we can get them safe. I told her under no circumstances could they be put outside now, for fear of infecting others Laure "Forgiveness is the fragrance the violet sheds on the heel that has crushed it." - Mark Twain "And can it be that in a world so full and busy, the loss of one small creature makes a void in any heart, so wide and deep that nothing but the width and depth of vast eternity can fill it up?" Charles Dickens >^.^< ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed
did you ever figure out what you were going to do with the 11 kittens? Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: HIDEYO YAMAMOTO To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 22, 2011 2:15 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed Hi, I did not read the original message - but I just wanted to share. I have one Felk girl, her name is gigner and she is now 7 years old -and I also have a couple of friends who have several felk kitties - they are all over 10 years old and they are all very healthty - Separately, I also have a couple of friends who mix their felk positive kitties wiht non negatives for a several years - they share eveyrthing - but none of their negatives have beome positives - Sending good thoughts to all of your babies. h > From: marciabmar...@gmail.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Mon, 22 Aug 2011 15:31:39 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed > > Thanks for all the hope that you have given me. Fletch had the ELISA test. > Today I took Wildfire and Shay over and they tested negative. Tomorrow I will > take Alvin. ( my grandkids name my cats for me(-:). They vacd Shay and > Wildfire, so I'm hoping they have a chance. My house is completely open so I > cannot separate Fletch from the others. > Exactly how long does the virus last outside of the body, I seem to find > conflicting opinions on this! I let my vet know that I have all of you > now...thank all of you so much. > > Sent from my iPad > > On Aug 22, 2011, at 7:31 AM, "Lynda Wilson" wrote: > > > Hi Marcia! > > > > So sorry to hear of this sad news! But there is hope. Did Fletch have an > > ELISA and an IFA test? Were they both positive or just the ELISA test? > > > > If he was positive on just the ELISA test, then there is still a chance for > > his immune system to clear the virus. You will need to test him again in a > > month to give him that chance to be able to fight it off. If he is positive > > on both tests, then you need to start treating him (interferon for > > starters). I don't have experience with all the treatments but I know many > > people on this thread can help you. > > > > I'll be thinking of Fletch and hope he can pull through this. With the > > right treatment and diet, many FeLV cats can survive for many years. > > > > Good luck to both of you! > > Lynda > > - Original Message - From: "Marcia Baronda" > > > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:04 PM > > Subject: [Felvtalk] My 1 year old just diagnosed > > > > > >> Hi everyone! My one year old sweet litle boy was just diagnosed. I have a > >> million questions and hope to learn a lot from all of you. This is every > >> hard to swallow. I have 3 other adult cats in myj house that have not been > >> vaccinated for felv. I didn't see a reason for it, I didn't trust the > >> vaccine and I am sorry now. Funny thing is, is that I tried so hard to > >> keep my cats healthy. I wouldn't even wear my shoes in the house for fear > >> I would carry something in! > >> Anyway, my little boy Fletch has a fever, horrible looking coat and I can > >> feel his hipbones and some of his backbone. He continues to eat and drink > >> ok. They are on a grain free diet and have a water fountain. > >> Thanks so much for being here. > >> > >> Marcia > >> Sent from my iPad > >> ___ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+ Emergency in Austin, TX
Kelly, I can understand the second test and yea you need to wait that time. Im sorry that you cant find anyone in your area to hold the cat for the 6 weeks but please DON'T try and put down sanctuaries. We like any rescue look for donations and the good will of people to help us help the animals. Yes almost all sanctuaries that take an animal for life ask for fees( some more than others) but your talking the care and vetting for what could be 10 or so years and with FeLV that can get really expensive. I wish you the best of luck in finding a foster for him, and i pray that he is - so he can be adopted. Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Kelley Saveika To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 7:47 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+ Emergency in Austin, TX I can't even get anyone to hold on to a healthy kitten temporarily - all my favors are called in long ago, and I've even having problems placing barn cats. . We could start treatment, but this lady gets more attached to this cat by the day and it really is not fair to her (or the cat) to put him through treatment and then have him PTS. We have an FELV sanctuary, but unfortunately they only take in cats when there is money to be made off them. We did ship a cat to Best Friends once, but they do not always have room either. Like I said, this list has always been my go-to resource for FELV cats and I have found placement for every single one in the past. It is possible he has a false positive, but as he is anemic and sick, I'm leaning towards true +. Unfortunately as I said there is no one to hold him for 6 weeks and if we put him back outside he will be dead in 6 weeks. On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 9:34 AM, Natalie wrote: Kelley, do you have any personal friends whom you might call on for a big favor? Are there any FeLV groups that could be called on, not necessarily in Austin, but in the area? It’s such a shame, because this cat may just have had a false positive….. > >From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika >Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 10:15 AM > >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+ Emergency in Austin, TX > >There are many, many rescue groups around Austin, but none who will take an >FELV+ cat. I have always used this list for placement in the past and always >gotten lucky.:) >On Sun, Aug 21, 2011 at 7:47 AM, Natalie wrote: >Aren’t there any rescue groups around Austin area? >No kind person to temporarily foster this poor cat? >I’m keeping my fingers crossed – good luck! > >From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika >Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 3:22 AM >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+ Emergency in Austin, TX > >That's why I'm here begging...I have bought him til Monday and this whole >thing is really tearing up the feeder. She cries every time she goes to the >vet. If worst comes to worst I will go with her Monday to have him pts. Lets >not make me have to do that! >On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 2:35 PM, Natalie wrote: >Can’t someone foster the cat – all they would need is some extra space in a >garage, basement, bathroom….until a home could be found! Surely, there must be >someone…… > >From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika >Sent: Friday, August 19, 2011 5:32 PM >To: felvtalk >Cc: teeja...@sbcglobal.net >Subject: [Felvtalk] FELV+ Emergency in Austin, TX > >Hey folks, got an emergency with a possible FELV+ cat in Austin, Texas. He's >had one snap test (and that's with the felv/fiv/heartworm test, which we know >there are a lot of false +s with). There is no one to hold him for a >confirmatory IFA. > >Someone wrote me asking for help, this is her description of him: > >"He is slated to be euthanized at 5pm today. This boy is very affectionate, >loving to be held, petted, scratched, etc. He was even purring while being >petted at the counter at the vet's office with all the strange scents and >animal noises going on! > >He's pretty sick at the moment. Vet says he's extremely anemic. That's why he >hasn't been eating much. And the heat has exacerbated the problem since he's >been an outdoor cat. Vet also says the condition is treatable, but the >treatment makes him very infectious. So what he needs is an indoor home either >in a one-cat household or in a house where all the cats are feline leukemia >positive. > >It's breaking my heart because he's such a sweeti
[Felvtalk] Anyone in the Denver area
I might need help with a second transport from the Denver area. anyone there? Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary http://www.secondchancemeows.com/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] HELP transport needed asap
hey everyone, I have a mommy and 2 kittens that need transport from Rancho Cucamonga CA shelter to Reno, Nv asap. Mommy and 1 of the kittens are doing good but 1 of the kittens has gotten "" the shelter URI "" and they need out now. I can travel part way to meet if needed and will help with gas costs if needed. please let me know if you can help Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil
First off THERE IS NO CURE for FeLV. I have heard of all kinds of things that are supposed to give great extensions of life to cats with FeLV, but have yet to see any kind of results. After 8 years of specializing in nothing but Fe-Luk cats i have found that, love, attention, basic supplements ( iron,L-lysine, and the like) are the best treatments for them. Adding things like high O2 water helps as well.( moving water not in a bowl). I know that many are going to say things like interferon, transfusions and like are good for them but they only prolong the inevitable. This virus will at some point in the cats life cause issues that will have grave consequences. Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Roseann Fitzgerald To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil Michael, have you heard about this pro or con? -- Sent from AT&T's Wireless network using Mobile Email --Original Message-- From: Second Chance Meows To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Date: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 6:38:37 AM GMT-0700 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil Tanya, are you talking about the seniors at TLAC in Austin, Sunny and Weston? Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 5:56 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil At least with hydrogen peroxide, it is known to cure human cancers and is used in Europe and Mexico...it can be taken orally or given by IV. Apparently, cancer cannot exist in all oxygen, and hydrogen peroxide oxygenatesI am still searching. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 8:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil It truly amazes me that ppl pray on others that are so desperate to find a cure. If it were that easy, all of us would be informed. We just have to use the common sense that the dear Lord gave us. Amen Lynda - Original Message - From: "Natalie" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil >I have never heard of this, but we started using coconut oil because it > tolerates higher temperatures than other oils before becoming saturated > fat. > > Where and who is this man, Mark McCandlish - what does he do? > I read that hydrogen peroxide can cure FeLV - but have yet to find > anything > on it anywhere. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of TANYA NOE > Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:32 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] coconut oil > > I was wondering if anyone has heard of this, a woman on FB is claiming > that > coconut oil given for approximately 4 weeks will cure a cat with FeLV. I > wrote to her and told her that there was in fact no cure and she told me > to > talk to a man named Mark McCandlish, though there are several so I was not > able to look him up. > > I am a licensed vet tech and am constantly researching FeLV and have not > seen anything of the sort out there. One would think if a cure would have > popped up that it would be talked about everywhere especially by the FeLV > cat parents crowd. > > I find it frustrating when people post information on FB under cats that > are > in need of homes and do not have their facts straight. They are either > sharing that FeLV is this freakishly contagious disease and that all FeLV > cats must be kept separate or euthanized or they are spouting about > "cures". > Those of us who have FeLV babies and are praying for that cure to save > them > don't want that fake carrot dangled in front of our faces. > > Anyway sorry for the rant, I just wanted to be sure I am not out of the > loop > before I keep arguing with her about it. > > Also there are 2 beautiful, sweet cats in Austin TX who are felv + and in > need of a home asap. If anyone may be interested please let me know and I > will forward the link with the info and pics. They are incredibly sweet > and > very cute! > > Thanks, > Tanya > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > __
Re: [Felvtalk] Need Sanctuary for Kittens
Please contact me in reference to these 2 Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Maureen Olvey To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 10:33 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Need Sanctuary for Kittens My rescue group has two 8 week old FeLV positive kittens that need a place to go. I'm in the Atlanta area but I don't think there are any FeLV sanctuaries nearby or even in the whole state. The lady who has been fostering them is willing to drive almost anywhere. She has family in PA and goes up there several times a year so driving a distance isn't a problem for her. Plus we have other people who can drive them to various other states. The kittens will be fully vetted and spayed or neutered. My rescue is a very small group. We don't have a shelter facility, we just have foster homes. We don't have a long term place for the kittens. Can anyone help or offer suggestions? We've only had one ELISA test done on the kittens but the mother cat had two positive ELISA tests and we're waiting on the IFA results for her. Because of that I'm thinking the kittens who tested positive are really positive. Think we should do an IFA test on them? I feel certain that they are truly positive but who knows. Also two of their littermates have tested negative on their first ELISA. How long should we wait before re-testing? Do you guys think those kittens could really be negative or is it more likely that it just isn't showing up yet for some reason? I know I've heard some of you say that you had a positive and a negative kitten that were littermates that came from a positive mother cat. But does that happen very often? Please let me know if anyone can put me in touch with a sanctuary for the kittens. We might need one for the mother but for now I'll just worry about the kittens. Oh, we do have someone who is taking the two negative kittens and will hold them until they can be re-tested. “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil
Tanya, are you talking about the seniors at TLAC in Austin, Sunny and Weston? Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, April 27, 2011 5:56 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil At least with hydrogen peroxide, it is known to cure human cancers and is used in Europe and Mexico...it can be taken orally or given by IV. Apparently, cancer cannot exist in all oxygen, and hydrogen peroxide oxygenatesI am still searching. Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda Wilson Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 8:11 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil It truly amazes me that ppl pray on others that are so desperate to find a cure. If it were that easy, all of us would be informed. We just have to use the common sense that the dear Lord gave us. Amen Lynda - Original Message - From: "Natalie" To: Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:42 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] coconut oil >I have never heard of this, but we started using coconut oil because it > tolerates higher temperatures than other oils before becoming saturated > fat. > > Where and who is this man, Mark McCandlish - what does he do? > I read that hydrogen peroxide can cure FeLV - but have yet to find > anything > on it anywhere. > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of TANYA NOE > Sent: Tuesday, April 26, 2011 6:32 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] coconut oil > > I was wondering if anyone has heard of this, a woman on FB is claiming > that > coconut oil given for approximately 4 weeks will cure a cat with FeLV. I > wrote to her and told her that there was in fact no cure and she told me > to > talk to a man named Mark McCandlish, though there are several so I was not > able to look him up. > > I am a licensed vet tech and am constantly researching FeLV and have not > seen anything of the sort out there. One would think if a cure would have > popped up that it would be talked about everywhere especially by the FeLV > cat parents crowd. > > I find it frustrating when people post information on FB under cats that > are > in need of homes and do not have their facts straight. They are either > sharing that FeLV is this freakishly contagious disease and that all FeLV > cats must be kept separate or euthanized or they are spouting about > "cures". > Those of us who have FeLV babies and are praying for that cure to save > them > don't want that fake carrot dangled in front of our faces. > > Anyway sorry for the rant, I just wanted to be sure I am not out of the > loop > before I keep arguing with her about it. > > Also there are 2 beautiful, sweet cats in Austin TX who are felv + and in > need of a home asap. If anyone may be interested please let me know and I > will forward the link with the info and pics. They are incredibly sweet > and > very cute! > > Thanks, > Tanya > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Yet another question.....
once a cat gets beyond a year it is all up to the immune system. We have had a cat that had gone as long as 18 years old before she was taken by the virus. So it entirely up to the animal itself. most of the ones we have had last about 5-8 years Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Sara Kasteleyn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Yet another question. Natalie, I have no thoughtful advice to give here, but I simply had to say that I think Eliot Spitty is a brilliant name. I'm giggling as I write. Too clever. Sara -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 1:57 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Yet another question. And I also wonder about adult cats that are FeLV+, and perfectly healthy. I've never had adults with no symptoms, only a kitten that died years ago. Eliot Spitty is about 5 yrs old, and Mr. Tux about 6 yrs old. I wonder how that will work out in the coming years - they get supplements, good food, etc. Has anyone had that experience, and how long did it take, if at all, before the cats started getting symptoms or related cancers? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2011 4:01 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Yet another question. One thought process that I've run into is that a healthy adult cat (FELV negative) has a hearty enough immune system to successfully deal with the FELV virus without acquiring it. I can't see that vaccinating them at this point would be of value. Just my 2c Gloria > From: Maureen Olvey > Date: March 21, 2011 12:07:44 PM CDT > To: > Subject: [Felvtalk] Yet another question. > Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > > I've mentioned my kitty Two Face earlier because she died two weeks > ago and when they did the necropsy they found out she had a huge > tumor and was FeLV +. Since then I've had a few of my other kitties > tested with the combo/snap test at the vet's office. All have come > out negative so far, thank the Lord for that. These other kitties > that have tested negative lived with Two Face for over a year. > Sharing litterboxes, food bowls and all that stuff. I would think > that would mean that they had enough exposure to the virus to get it > in their system and that they either extinguished the virus or put > it into a dormant status. Is that a reasonable assumption? My main > question now is should I give them a FeLV vaccination. If they did > get the virus in their system and extinguished it then they're > immune for life, right? If so, there's no need for a vaccination. > Is it possible with all that exposure that they didn't get enough of > the virus into their system to do any harm? If that's the case then > I should vaccinate them? I just don't know how they could not have > gotten enough exposure since they lived together and shared > everything for over a year. > > Thoughts? > > > "I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results > that are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it > inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward > it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without > looking further." - Mark Twain ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org __ NOD32 5976 (20110322) Information __ This message was checked by NOD32 antivirus system. http://www.eset.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Beautiful FELV+ kitties in Austin at risk of being killed
contact me and we might be able to help Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Kelley Saveika To: felvtalk Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 9:26 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Beautiful FELV+ kitties in Austin at risk of being killed Please check them out - so adorable! http://austin.craigslist.org/pet/2262678206.html -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper "And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue." - Nathan Winograd <http://www.captainwink.com/wp/ie.php?plg=ie&subs=gmail&elm=sign> ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Cats Suffer and Die at Animal 'Sanctuary'
Thank you Susan, some of us do keep our population to a minimum to avoid these issues. Sanctuaries like ours run solely on fees and donations or our pockets so we know how hard it can be. Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Susan Hoffman To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Cats Suffer and Die at Animal 'Sanctuary' This is the problem with most "sanctuaries." It's a flawed business model. A "sanctuary" by definition offers lifetime care So they fill up fast and, as the population ages, become more and more expensive to maintain. And usually the people who try to start sanctuaries keep taking in new animals, sometimes because they need the surrender fee to keep the operation running and sometimes because they simply have a hard time saying "no." This is just not a sustainable model. The few good long term sanctuaries really limit the population. And they very often have an adoption component that allows them to make space by placing animals in good homes. You just can't keep taking animals in with no way to decrease the population. It becomes unwieldy very quickly. --- On Thu, 2/24/11, Edna Taylor wrote: > From: Edna Taylor > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Cats Suffer and Die at Animal 'Sanctuary' > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Thursday, February 24, 2011, 12:37 PM > > There is a place in the Houston area and I have first hand > knowledge of what a horrid place this is, yet people still > take their cats there. It is called Cat Nap Estates > and IN MY OPINION, the woman running it should not care for > potted plants. I had her hold two feral cats for a > couple of months while we were moving and our house was > being built. They went completely vetted, yet they > came back with a litney of illnesses and so terrified. > The vet said she didn't think the female was ever let out of > her carrier because it stunk so badly they had to throw it > away. I called the SPCA and made a cruelty report and > some of the cats tested positive for Feluk and these cats > were in the general population. I have heard other > horror stories about her and her "sanctuary" from others > too. > > She may have started out with good intentions, but the road > to h*ll is paved with good intentions. > > > > Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2011 10:12:39 -0800 > > From: create_me_...@yahoo.com > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: Cats Suffer and Die at Animal > 'Sanctuary' > > > > This is why I warn people to thoroughly check out > "Sanctuaries" This happens time & again. > > > > Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org > > > > > > > > > > From: atlantares...@yahoogroups.com > > > [mailto:atlantares...@yahoogroups.com] > On Behalf Of > > kitty.cat > > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 12:30 PM > > To: > > spotsoci...@yahoogroups.com; > atlanta Rescue Groups > > Cc: > > georgiaanimalres...@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: [atlantarescue] Fw: Cats > > Suffer and Die at Animal 'Sanctuary' > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Original Message - > > Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2011 9:48 > > AM > > Subject: Cats Suffer and Die at Animal 'Sanctuary' > > > > >A PETA > > undercover investigation exposed the chronic > deprivation and > > >suffering > > of approximately 300 cats being kept in filthy, > stifling, > > >dungeon-like, > > disease-ridden storage units at Sacred Vision Animal > > >Sanctuary (SVAS) in > > Myrtle Beach, South Carolina. > > > > > > The operator of this so-called > > "sanctuary" warehouses cats in > > > cruel, disgusting > > conditions. Many of the animals have endured these > > > conditions for > > years. One cat captured on video--Winky--was found > > > convulsing and dying > > in a litterbox inside a cage. The operator refused > > > repeated offers for > > free emergency veterinary care and instead left Winky > > > > in a filthy > > bathroom to languish for more than an hour before the > cat > > > finally > > died. > > > > > > Please click the link below to help end the > suffering and > > death of cats at > > > SVAS now! > > > > > > To take action on this > > issue, click on the link below: > > > http://www2.peta.org/site/Ad
Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone experienced with transport?
you can contact the Nevada humane society at 775-856-2000 and ask for the help desk they can contact volunteers that might help in Nevada and close in to the state Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Kelley Saveika To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Sent: Saturday, February 19, 2011 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone experienced with transport? MIchael, We have 3 kittens needing to go from Austin to Reno. We have someone to drive the first leg. What we need is someone to help us coordinate the rest of the legs and possibly teach me in the process. On Sat, Feb 19, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Second Chance Meows < secondchanceme...@yahoo.com> wrote: > what can i help you with? > > Michael Johnson > Founder/Owner > Second Chance Meows > A FeLV Sanctuary > > > From: Jenine > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Cc: > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 6:19 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone experienced with transport? > > Michael, > > They will be coming here to Reno. Have been meaning to "contact" you > anyway, so this may be the right time. Feel free to email me. > jenmarac...@gbis.com > > Jenine > > > > On 2/18/2011 5:31 PM, Second Chance Meows wrote: > > where in Nevada do they need to go? > > > > Michael Johnson > > Founder/Owner > > Second Chance Meows > > A FeLV Sanctuary > > > > > > From: Kelley Saveika > > To: felvtalk > > Cc: > > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 4:19 PM > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Anyone experienced with transport? > > > > We have the 3 FELV+ kittens here (Austin) needing to go to Nevada with as > > little stress as possible. I have no experience at all in this area; > > however, we do have a person willing to drive the first leg. Anyone > > experienced with transport who can help? > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper "And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue." - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone experienced with transport?
what can i help you with? Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Jenine To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 6:19 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone experienced with transport? Michael, They will be coming here to Reno. Have been meaning to "contact" you anyway, so this may be the right time. Feel free to email me. jenmarac...@gbis.com Jenine On 2/18/2011 5:31 PM, Second Chance Meows wrote: > where in Nevada do they need to go? > > Michael Johnson > Founder/Owner > Second Chance Meows > A FeLV Sanctuary > > > From: Kelley Saveika > To: felvtalk > Cc: > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 4:19 PM > Subject: [Felvtalk] Anyone experienced with transport? > > We have the 3 FELV+ kittens here (Austin) needing to go to Nevada with as > little stress as possible. I have no experience at all in this area; > however, we do have a person willing to drive the first leg. Anyone > experienced with transport who can help? > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone experienced with transport?
where in Nevada do they need to go? Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Kelley Saveika To: felvtalk Cc: Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 4:19 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Anyone experienced with transport? We have the 3 FELV+ kittens here (Austin) needing to go to Nevada with as little stress as possible. I have no experience at all in this area; however, we do have a person willing to drive the first leg. Anyone experienced with transport who can help? -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Please help Trooper! http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper "And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue." - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] not getting any emails
i got your mail Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: TANYA NOE To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, January 25, 2011 10:22:30 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] not getting any emails Hey everyone, I haven't seem any posts come to my in box in several days and was just wondering if I am for some reason now banned or if there just haven't been any at all. If anyone has gotten any the last couple of days or if they see this will they please respond? Thanks, Tanya ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] anyone used a pet transport service?
there are many of them out there, operation roger, pilots for paws and others, i have never used any of them yet but im sure we will soon Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Emeraldkittee To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Fri, January 21, 2011 5:53:50 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] anyone used a pet transport service? just wondering if anyone has experiences with these services out therePet Airways doesn't have alot of hubs yet - but pet transport vans like Paws n Claws - what are your thoughts? any recommedations? ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+ Flame Point-Shortie Tail teen in Tampa, FL needs foster/home ASAP
we have already offered a home to this little one we are waiting to talk to the foster mom so we can get arrangements made Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Bonnie Hogue To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, January 11, 2011 4:11:49 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+ Flame Point-Shortie Tail teen in Tampa, FL needs foster/home ASAP It never ceases to amaze me how wonderful and caring people in this group are. Everyone: have a wonderful day. ~Bonnie - Original Message - From: To: Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 3:59 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+ Flame Point-Shortie Tail teen in Tampa, FL needs foster/home ASAP > I am sorry that I cannot take this baby, sounds perfect for my group. > However, >I am in a tight financial situation myself and am supporting 7 rescues of my >own. I will pray for Weasely and family. Especially for the husband who is >taking chemo. I have been thru that and know how hard it is. I will add them >to our church prayer list and all the other churches in our community. > Natalie wrote: >> I passed this on to a friend in FL. >> >> -Original Message- >> From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org >> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather >> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 11:21 AM >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Subject: [Felvtalk] FELV+ Flame Point-Shortie Tail teen in Tampa, FL needs >> foster/home ASAP >> >> Hello, >> >> I was not able to attach a picture, but please e-mail me if anyone would >> like pics especially if you are able to help spread the word for this SUPER >> sweet kitty Weasley. >> >> Weasley has twice tested FELV+ on snap tests and the rescuer does not have >> funds for an IFA. It is a bit of a complicated story, my friend who rescued >> him was volunteering at a high volume low-cost "spay day" when sweet little >> Weasley was brought in, he had horrible scabies and the person who brought >> him wouldn't keep him and he was going to be euthanized. My friend took >> him home, treated him for scabies (he was neutered at the clinic but not >> tested), and came accross another rescue volunteer who wished to adopt him, >> which she did but he since tested + for FELV twice and so she returned him. >> Since his history is unknown, we do not know if he was born with it/infected >> as a kitten or more recently as a teen on the streets. >> >> My rescue friend is in a difficult situation, she is one who saves so many >> cats that no one else steps up to help and is loaded with more than 30 cats >> and fosters, including several very hard to place special needs cats >> (including a somewhat traumatized, 4 paw declaw deaf white kitty who was >> living on the streets and needs a home badly as well), and her young husband >> is going through chemo for a brain tumor. She is a graduate student with a >> lot on her hands and mounting cat situations and has no where to keep this >> sweet boy separate other than caged, she has to be careful since she has so >> many fosters to be adopted out who can't be exposed. >> >> Weasley is so sweet and described to have the personality of a puppy! He >> has a shortie tail, about 1/3 - 1/2 of a regular tail, making him even >> cuter. I was told he is about 6 months old. >> >> If anyone in Florida can help find a foster or permanent home for Weasley, >> they may contact me or my friend Olya @ olyagr...@gmail.com >> >> Thanks for reading! >> >> Heather >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] observations from adoption process...
Shannon, you had spoken about having 2 cats you might need help placing, get back to me and we can talk. i might be able to help Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Emeraldkittee To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, January 9, 2011 9:41:33 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] observations from adoption process... that's so awesome, Joslin! My vet is young and open minded - the clinic onwers of the place she is at always 'suggests' that FIV and FeLV kitties be put down. Because we have both, and have gone through learning experiences with these kitties, she no longer suggests this to clients. Same with the staff there. We are in a position to change minds. When people chat with me in the waiting room and ask about our cute cat, I always work it in that he's FIV and that we have a FeLV too. I remember when I was uneducated about this and thought there were no options because that is what I had been told by 'experts', and my mind was changed. Shannon --- On Sun, 1/9/11, Joslin Potter wrote: From: Joslin Potter Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] observations from adoption process... To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, January 9, 2011, 12:20 AM Natalie, My vet is the same way, when we found out about Zoey I about had a emotional breakdown, she gave me a hug and said it was not a death sentence, just a different way of living. He has been symptom free since he got sick & we found out, they are more than wonderful too as far as constant check ups and good care. ~Joz & Zoey~ From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sat, January 8, 2011 10:34:16 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] observations from adoption process... You cannot believe how many people, when they find out that their cat is FeLV positive, ask the vets to immediately kill them! My vet, is the last one to ask - he will NEVER do it. But there are many vets who actually suggest to their clients that the kindest thing to do is to put them out of their misery, when they're not even exhibiting any symptoms yet. I get calls from such people, asking if I would take their cat - my response is, why can't you keep the cat you claim to love so much? I happen to have two, because I had no choice, but I wasn't going to throw them out, not accept them, or have them killed. They're wonderful cats, but I doubt that anyone will adopt them - so I will have them for life. I wish there were a decent place for FeLV cats - but as nice as some of them may appear, they are NOT - not in this area. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 6:08 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] observations from adoption process... Just wanted to share something I have encountered - we are considering a pal for Whimsy, and have been in touch with wonderful, amazing rescues, shelters, and fosters. I have encountered many times kitties who have never had an IFA and sometimes only one ELISA. Obviously, this doesn't sit quite right with me, and I need an IFA. Of course, it's an expensive test and totally understandable why it's not done as much. I have offered to pay for one (for a kitty who has lived in a cage for a year) and wish I could get all of those in question this luxury. It's a dilema I didn't anticipate. I have had to explain on many occasions what it is as well. I'm so touched by all the passion and committment out there for these special kitties. You wouldn't believe the long, stunned silence on the phone when I ask "Do you have any Feline Leukemia kitties for adoption?" I've had shelter people shout for joy and almost cry at my inquiry. It's also made me aware of where I will be directing my donations to. My favorite local shelter takes care of these guys, but I am definitely going to redirect my other donations to smaller groups that care for these sweethearts - that welcome them with open arms. I realize, too, that having Whismy come into my life, for however long it may be, has made me an advocate for FeLV adoptions, and when you start see how many people you can inform, you truly see how to effect change. It may be one person in one waiting room at your vet clinic, but if that gives one of these cats the chance to live out their years, it is definitely powerful action. The horror of the inital diagnosis seems to disipate and you see...yes, we can handle it; if not us, who? Shannon and Whimsy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtal
Re: [Felvtalk] observations from adoption process...
there are places for FeLV cats. you just have to look real hard for them. most, like us try and keep a low profile so we can keep numbers to a minimum. that way the cats, that others wanted to kill, get the love and attention they deserve. Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Natalie To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sat, January 8, 2011 7:34:16 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] observations from adoption process... You cannot believe how many people, when they find out that their cat is FeLV positive, ask the vets to immediately kill them! My vet, is the last one to ask - he will NEVER do it. But there are many vets who actually suggest to their clients that the kindest thing to do is to put them out of their misery, when they're not even exhibiting any symptoms yet. I get calls from such people, asking if I would take their cat - my response is, why can't you keep the cat you claim to love so much? I happen to have two, because I had no choice, but I wasn't going to throw them out, not accept them, or have them killed. They're wonderful cats, but I doubt that anyone will adopt them - so I will have them for life. I wish there were a decent place for FeLV cats - but as nice as some of them may appear, they are NOT - not in this area. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Emeraldkittee Sent: Saturday, January 08, 2011 6:08 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] observations from adoption process... Just wanted to share something I have encountered - we are considering a pal for Whimsy, and have been in touch with wonderful, amazing rescues, shelters, and fosters. I have encountered many times kitties who have never had an IFA and sometimes only one ELISA. Obviously, this doesn't sit quite right with me, and I need an IFA. Of course, it's an expensive test and totally understandable why it's not done as much. I have offered to pay for one (for a kitty who has lived in a cage for a year) and wish I could get all of those in question this luxury. It's a dilema I didn't anticipate. I have had to explain on many occasions what it is as well. I'm so touched by all the passion and committment out there for these special kitties. You wouldn't believe the long, stunned silence on the phone when I ask "Do you have any Feline Leukemia kitties for adoption?" I've had shelter people shout for joy and almost cry at my inquiry. It's also made me aware of where I will be directing my donations to. My favorite local shelter takes care of these guys, but I am definitely going to redirect my other donations to smaller groups that care for these sweethearts - that welcome them with open arms. I realize, too, that having Whismy come into my life, for however long it may be, has made me an advocate for FeLV adoptions, and when you start see how many people you can inform, you truly see how to effect change. It may be one person in one waiting room at your vet clinic, but if that gives one of these cats the chance to live out their years, it is definitely powerful action. The horror of the inital diagnosis seems to disipate and you see...yes, we can handle it; if not us, who? Shannon and Whimsy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Fw: [FeLVPositiveCats] Re: Second Chance Xmas Fund Raiser
Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary - Forwarded Message From: Second Chance Meows To: felvpositivec...@yahoogroups.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; susan_hoff...@yahoo.com; Colin Starrett Sent: Wed, November 17, 2010 1:09:27 PM Subject: [FeLVPositiveCats] Re: Second Chance Xmas Fund Raiser please cross post to all groups and rescues We Need Heroes, people willing to step up and help these furry kids. we here at Second Chance have been giving these little ones a home with love and care to over 30 cats, for over 8 years . We are totally out of pocket. Our vet bills run in the average of hundreds ( we have 10 cats with us now) and that's when they are in good health. when they get sick the vet costs can raise dramatically.food costs average about 100.00 per month. vitamins, food supplements to help boost their immune systems, litter, climbing trees, waterfalls ( for high o2 content), toys, beds, perscriptions all come out of our pockets. Please we need HEROES to help us in our fight to keep these cats for being KILLED http://secondchancemeows.chipin.com/second-chance-meows-xmas-fund-raiser Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Second Chance Meows To: felvpositivec...@yahoogroups.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; susan_hoff...@yahoo.com Sent: Wed, November 17, 2010 1:04:21 PM Subject: Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Fw: [FeLVPositiveCats] Second Chance X mas fund raiser
Please cross post and resend to as many rescues and others as you can Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary - Forwarded Message From: Second Chance Meows To: felvpositivec...@yahoogroups.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Fri, November 5, 2010 1:00:43 PM Subject: [FeLVPositiveCats] Second Chance X mas fund raiser Hi everyone, as most of you know we here at Second Chance are an out of pocket sanctuary, and due to hard time, as we all know has hit soo many, we are forced to call out for help. please check out the chip in link and if you can please help our furry kids and those to join us in the future http://secondchancemeows.chipin.com/second-chance-meows-xmas-fund-raiser Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] another passing
tonight we lost our queen, Lita. our very first FeLV cat, she was 18 yrs old. Lita started out as Pink at the SPCA. she was the house cat there for a few years, and was given to me after finding out that my chemo had failed and what i had would eventually kill me. This huge torte was a pissy old girl and would hiss at everything. she at her best was about 20 lbs of pure joy. she would come up to you and head butt you to get petted, and then jump in your lap and just lay there. Lita died at home surrounded by those who loved her, laying on my daughters jacket with her by her side petting her to the end Lita had been with us for 8 long years and had been treated for everything from Uri's to arthritis, to the starting of a feline form of glaucoma, but she held on and fought for all this time finally giving in to liver failure. Safe travels across the bridge Lita. you will be missed. thank you for making Second Chance possible I know i don't send a lot of things here but we here at Second Chance try to do the best we can while running a full house. Please remember that the smaller rescues and homes like us do this from our own pockets. Please help the smaller sanctuaries like ours continue to give love and hope to our furry families. http://secondchancemeows.chipin.com/second-chance-meows-xmas-fund-raiser Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: FELV persian near Missouri and Oklahoma
Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Gloria Lane To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Mon, November 22, 2010 1:17:28 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: FELV persian near Missouri and Oklahoma No have not- can you take possibly? Will work on transport if so. Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Nov 22, 2010, at 2:54 PM, Second Chance Meows wrote: > have you had any replies to this cat? > > Michael Johnson > Founder/Owner > Second Chance Meows > A FeLV Sanctuary > > > > > > From: Gloria B. Lane > To: Feline Leukemia > Sent: Sun, November 21, 2010 7:35:35 PM > Subject: [Felvtalk] Fwd: FELV persian near Missouri and Oklahoma > > This is an FELV Persian, in Bella Vista, Arkansas, the northwest part near > the > Missouri/Arkansas border, toward Kansas, who doesn't have much time - any > options? They say they're willing to transport... Any thoughts or takers? > > Thanks, > > Gloria > > > Begin forwarded message: > > On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Belinda Barry wrote: > >> Sent from my MOTOBLUR™ smartphone on AT&T >> >> -Original message- >> From: Donna gofigure >> To: Belinda Barry >> Sent: Wed, Nov 17, 2010 15:36:23 GMT+00:00 >> Subject: persian >> >> Belinda, >> I have a problem. Over the last month I have taken in 4 persians. They all > have >> been in rough shape and all found within a 2 block area. Appears a breeder is >> dumping in this area. Anyway the last one we took in yesterday and he is a >> very >> tiny male, black and white and has an old broken jaw (one of the others had a >> broken jaw too). Anyway he is a young guy (approx. 8 months old) and skin and >> bones. Took him to the vet yesterday as he looked awful and found out he has >> feline Luek. Did not know if you knew someone that would take a persian with >> leuk. I will hang on to him till tommorow and if you know anyone we will > neuter >> him and get him ready to go. >> Let me know and I understand if you do not know anyone. This is a hard one. >> Thanks, >> Donna >> >> >> > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: FELV persian near Missouri and Oklahoma
we should talk on the phone about it first 775-453-1222 Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Gloria Lane To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Mon, November 22, 2010 1:17:28 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: FELV persian near Missouri and Oklahoma No have not- can you take possibly? Will work on transport if so. Gloria Sent from my iPhone On Nov 22, 2010, at 2:54 PM, Second Chance Meows wrote: > have you had any replies to this cat? > > Michael Johnson > Founder/Owner > Second Chance Meows > A FeLV Sanctuary > > > > > > From: Gloria B. Lane > To: Feline Leukemia > Sent: Sun, November 21, 2010 7:35:35 PM > Subject: [Felvtalk] Fwd: FELV persian near Missouri and Oklahoma > > This is an FELV Persian, in Bella Vista, Arkansas, the northwest part near > the > Missouri/Arkansas border, toward Kansas, who doesn't have much time - any > options? They say they're willing to transport... Any thoughts or takers? > > Thanks, > > Gloria > > > Begin forwarded message: > > On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Belinda Barry wrote: > >> Sent from my MOTOBLUR™ smartphone on AT&T >> >> -Original message- >> From: Donna gofigure >> To: Belinda Barry >> Sent: Wed, Nov 17, 2010 15:36:23 GMT+00:00 >> Subject: persian >> >> Belinda, >> I have a problem. Over the last month I have taken in 4 persians. They all > have >> been in rough shape and all found within a 2 block area. Appears a breeder is >> dumping in this area. Anyway the last one we took in yesterday and he is a >> very >> tiny male, black and white and has an old broken jaw (one of the others had a >> broken jaw too). Anyway he is a young guy (approx. 8 months old) and skin and >> bones. Took him to the vet yesterday as he looked awful and found out he has >> feline Luek. Did not know if you knew someone that would take a persian with >> leuk. I will hang on to him till tommorow and if you know anyone we will > neuter >> him and get him ready to go. >> Let me know and I understand if you do not know anyone. This is a hard one. >> Thanks, >> Donna >> >> >> > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: FELV persian near Missouri and Oklahoma
have you had any replies to this cat? Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Gloria B. Lane To: Feline Leukemia Sent: Sun, November 21, 2010 7:35:35 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Fwd: FELV persian near Missouri and Oklahoma This is an FELV Persian, in Bella Vista, Arkansas, the northwest part near the Missouri/Arkansas border, toward Kansas, who doesn't have much time - any options? They say they're willing to transport... Any thoughts or takers? Thanks, Gloria Begin forwarded message: On Nov 17, 2010, at 12:38 PM, Belinda Barry wrote: > Sent from my MOTOBLUR™ smartphone on AT&T > > -Original message- > From: Donna gofigure > To: Belinda Barry > Sent: Wed, Nov 17, 2010 15:36:23 GMT+00:00 > Subject: persian > > Belinda, > I have a problem. Over the last month I have taken in 4 persians. They all have > been in rough shape and all found within a 2 block area. Appears a breeder is > dumping in this area. Anyway the last one we took in yesterday and he is a >very > tiny male, black and white and has an old broken jaw (one of the others had a > broken jaw too). Anyway he is a young guy (approx. 8 months old) and skin and > bones. Took him to the vet yesterday as he looked awful and found out he has > feline Luek. Did not know if you knew someone that would take a persian with > leuk. I will hang on to him till tommorow and if you know anyone we will neuter > him and get him ready to go. > Let me know and I understand if you do not know anyone. This is a hard one. > Thanks, > Donna > > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Second Chance Xmas Fund Raiser
we try to keep our location very quite because as most of you know, when it gets out you can have people dropping animals off at your front door, and i can not have that we are trying to keep this small as we don't have a great deal of room. Please find it i your hearts to help the furry ones we get the opportunity to help http://secondchancemeows.chipin.com/second-chance-meows-xmas-fund-raiser Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Gloria Lane To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Wed, November 17, 2010 3:31:09 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Second Chance Xmas Fund Raiser Well it doesn't give a location ... Sent from my iPhone On Nov 17, 2010, at 4:28 PM, Mike Finch wrote: > Forgive me... but can anyone vouch for this organization? I apologize in > advance for my skepticism, but this comes across as a classic scam. > > Mike > > From: Second Chance Meows > To: felvpositivec...@yahoogroups.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; > susan_hoff...@yahoo.com; Colin Starrett > Sent: Wed, November 17, 2010 6:09:27 PM > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Second Chance Xmas Fund Raiser > > please cross post to all groups and rescues > > We Need Heroes, > people willing to step up and help these furry kids. we here at Second > Chance > have been giving these little ones a home with love and care to over 30 > cats, > for over 8 years . We are totally out of pocket. Our vet bills run in the > average of hundreds ( we have 10 cats with us now) and that's when they are > in > > good health. when they get sick the vet costs can raise dramatically. > food > costs average about 100.00 per month. vitamins, food supplements to help > boost > > their immune systems, litter, climbing trees, waterfalls ( for high o2 > content), toys, beds, perscriptions all come out of our pockets. > Please we need HEROES to help us in our fight to keep these cats for being > KILLED > http://secondchancemeows.chipin.com/second-chance-meows-xmas-fund-raiser > > Michael Johnson > Founder/Owner > Second Chance Meows > A FeLV Sanctuary > > > > > > From: Second Chance Meows > To: felvpositivec...@yahoogroups.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; > susan_hoff...@yahoo.com > Sent: Wed, November 17, 2010 1:04:21 PM > Subject: > > > > > > > > > > Michael Johnson > Founder/Owner > Second Chance Meows > A FeLV Sanctuary > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Fw: Second Chance Xmas Fund Raiser
Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary - Forwarded Message From: Second Chance Meows To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, November 17, 2010 3:56:36 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Second Chance Xmas Fund Raiser Mike, we would like to thank you for your donation, you were the first to open your heart and help. so please accept my most heart felt thanks for what you did. Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Mike Finch To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, November 17, 2010 3:30:59 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Second Chance Xmas Fund Raiser Thank you Belinda. No offense was intended, and I hope none was taken by Mr. Johnson. I am a new member of only 2-3 months, and I was just playing it safe, regardless of the risk of offending someone. Mike From: Belinda Sauro To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, November 17, 2010 8:06:17 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Second Chance Xmas Fund Raiser Mike, Michael is a well known member of the group and does take in and take care of feLV+ cats, he has even taken some group member cats, hopefully one of them will speak up. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Fw: Second Chance Xmas Fund Raiser
Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary - Forwarded Message From: Second Chance Meows To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, November 17, 2010 3:46:45 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Second Chance Xmas Fund Raiser no offense is taken and no apologies are needed i completely understand. thank you for the encouragement Belinda its nice to know that i'm still known please any and all donations can be done thru chip-in it goes to pay-pal for checking and disbursement. the link goes to the chip-in page. and no im sorry i don't have a web page as im trying to keep Second Chance a small family. I will say this about us, we are a family. this is run out of my house, the cats live in the house with my wife and kids. they are given all the love and attention EVERY day they sleep, eat, play with us as family. http://secondchancemeows.chipin.com/second-chance-meows-xmas-fund-raiser Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Mike Finch To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, November 17, 2010 3:30:59 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Second Chance Xmas Fund Raiser Thank you Belinda. No offense was intended, and I hope none was taken by Mr. Johnson. I am a new member of only 2-3 months, and I was just playing it safe, regardless of the risk of offending someone. Mike From: Belinda Sauro To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, November 17, 2010 8:06:17 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Second Chance Xmas Fund Raiser Mike, Michael is a well known member of the group and does take in and take care of feLV+ cats, he has even taken some group member cats, hopefully one of them will speak up. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Second Chance Xmas Fund Raiser
Mike, we would like to thank you for your donation, you were the first to open your heart and help. so please accept my most heart felt thanks for what you did. Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Mike Finch To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, November 17, 2010 3:30:59 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Second Chance Xmas Fund Raiser Thank you Belinda. No offense was intended, and I hope none was taken by Mr. Johnson. I am a new member of only 2-3 months, and I was just playing it safe, regardless of the risk of offending someone. Mike From: Belinda Sauro To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, November 17, 2010 8:06:17 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Second Chance Xmas Fund Raiser Mike, Michael is a well known member of the group and does take in and take care of feLV+ cats, he has even taken some group member cats, hopefully one of them will speak up. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Second Chance Xmas Fund Raiser
no offense is taken and no apologies are needed i completely understand. thank you for the encouragement Belinda its nice to know that i'm still known please any and all donations can be done thru chip-in it goes to pay-pal for checking and disbursement. the link goes to the chip-in page. and no im sorry i don't have a web page as im trying to keep Second Chance a small family. I will say this about us, we are a family. this is run out of my house, the cats live in the house with my wife and kids. they are given all the love and attention EVERY day they sleep, eat, play with us as family. http://secondchancemeows.chipin.com/second-chance-meows-xmas-fund-raiser Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Mike Finch To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, November 17, 2010 3:30:59 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Second Chance Xmas Fund Raiser Thank you Belinda. No offense was intended, and I hope none was taken by Mr. Johnson. I am a new member of only 2-3 months, and I was just playing it safe, regardless of the risk of offending someone. Mike From: Belinda Sauro To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wed, November 17, 2010 8:06:17 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Second Chance Xmas Fund Raiser Mike, Michael is a well known member of the group and does take in and take care of feLV+ cats, he has even taken some group member cats, hopefully one of them will speak up. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://BelindaSauro.com http://HostDesign4U.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Second Chance Xmas Fund Raiser
please cross post to all groups and rescues We Need Heroes, people willing to step up and help these furry kids. we here at Second Chance have been giving these little ones a home with love and care to over 30 cats, for over 8 years . We are totally out of pocket. Our vet bills run in the average of hundreds ( we have 10 cats with us now) and that's when they are in good health. when they get sick the vet costs can raise dramatically.food costs average about 100.00 per month. vitamins, food supplements to help boost their immune systems, litter, climbing trees, waterfalls ( for high o2 content), toys, beds, perscriptions all come out of our pockets. Please we need HEROES to help us in our fight to keep these cats for being KILLED http://secondchancemeows.chipin.com/second-chance-meows-xmas-fund-raiser Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Second Chance Meows To: felvpositivec...@yahoogroups.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; susan_hoff...@yahoo.com Sent: Wed, November 17, 2010 1:04:21 PM Subject: Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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[Felvtalk] Second Chance X mas fund raiser
Hi everyone, as most of you know we here at Second Chance are an out of pocket sanctuary, and due to hard time, as we all know has hit soo many, we are forced to call out for help. please check out the chip in link and if you can please help our furry kids and those to join us in the future http://secondchancemeows.chipin.com/second-chance-meows-xmas-fund-raiser Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Fw: Please help me, I have a + stray kitty and I need to find her a home.
Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary - Forwarded Message From: Second Chance Meows To: purringpixiecatresou...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wed, November 3, 2010 11:37:09 PM Subject: Re: Please help me, I have a + stray kitty and I need to find her a home. your so right Reyna, but if it is the cats time to cross the bridge, it's time. none of us that deal with this like to see it happen, but we need to learn whats best for the cat. we spend hrs watching, waiting, trying to help in so many different ways, sometimes it works for a short time and other times it does not. It's very hard on the human that does this kind of work, About 4 months ago we here at Second Chance took in a mommy and three kittens( Eva, Doom,Mittens, and Tigress), and it seems that we are losing our Tigress, The best we can do is to make her comfortable as we can when the antibiotics didn't work on the URI we knew it was only a matter of time. She will decide when, and we will do everything we can to make it as easy as we can. Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Reyna Castano To: purringpixiecatresou...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, November 1, 2010 10:47:24 PM Subject: Re: Please help me, I have a + stray kitty and I need to find her a home. Have you heard of felv talk? If not, please become a member and share your story. Many positives have found a home that way. Good luck and keep me posted. Please don't put your baby to sleep, leukemia does not have to be a death sentence. Your cat needs u more than ever. On Mon Nov 1st, 2010 5:35 PM PDT singlern_50 wrote: >About 3 weeks ago. She has lost weight and will not eat and keeps getting >dehydrated. I work fulltime and do not have the time I need to spend with her >to >help her over the hump. I just began feeding her with a syringe and for the >last >2 weeks I have been giving her subq fluids. I'm afraid I'm going to have to >put >her down if I don't find her a home ASAP :( > >--- In purringpixiecatresou...@yahoogroups.com, Reyna Castano >wrote: >> >> Did you just found out she is positive? >> >> --- On Mon, 11/1/10, singlern_50 wrote: >> >> >> From: singlern_50 >> Subject: Please help me, I have a + stray kitty and I need to find her a home. >> To: purringpixiecatresou...@yahoogroups.com >> Date: Monday, November 1, 2010, 9:05 AM >> >> >> Â >> >> >> >> Please help me, I have a feline leukemia positive stray kitty and I need to >>find her a home. >> > > __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in this topic (54) Recent Activity:* New Members 1 Visit Your Group Please visit our links page for more helpful information http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/PurringPixieCatResource/links Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use . __,_._,___ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Jersey City NJ: Asymptomatic FELV+ Gino needs a home
i might be able to help, i run a "for life" FeLV sanctuary Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: "beve...@jerseycats.org" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, November 2, 2010 9:32:26 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Jersey City NJ: Asymptomatic FELV+ Gino needs a home JerseyCats, a volunteer-run, foster-based rescue in Northern New Jersey is looking for a home for Gino, a two-three year old asymptomatic FELV+ cat. Please read more about Gino on our home page: www.jerseycats.org or on petfinder: http://www.petfinder.com/petdetail/17695711. Gino tested positive with ELISA and IFA on October 5 and will be getting his second IFA test on November 13. Gino is gorgeous and lovable, and gets along with dogs! Transport available to the right home, even out of state. Please contact me with any questions and please feel free to forward. many thanks, Beverly Parsons JerseyCats beverly(at)jerseycats.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Four FeLV+ kittens need caring homes
please keep me informed about these little guys. i run an FeLV sanctuary and we could talk about a forever home for them if you would like Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: "dlg...@windstream.net" To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sat, June 12, 2010 4:16:38 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Four FeLV+ kittens need caring homes GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR EVA. I HAVE 2 FELV POS BABIES, 1 IS 4 AND THE OTHER WE GUESS AT 2. BOTH ARE HEALTHY, HAPPY AND DOING FINE. HOPE YOU FOUND HOMES FOR THE BABIES. PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE AFRAID OF THEM. SOME DO SUCCOME TO SECONDARY INFECTIONS, BUT MANY IF GIVEN GOOD CARE, LACK OF STRESS AND GOOD FOOD CAN LIVE TO A RIPE OLD AGE. STRESS MAY BE OVERRATED, ANNIE AND NITNOY ARE BOTH EASILY STRESSED, LIKE SOMEONE STARING AT THEM OR COMING AROUND A CORNER AND STARTLING THEM. THEY HISS, SCREAM, FUSS AND GRUMBE FOR A BIT AND THEN FIND A HIGH SPOT WHERE THEY CAN SEE THE OTHERS SNEAKING UP ON THEM. IT HASN'T SEEMED TO AFFECT THEM MUCH. IWLL KEEP YOU AND EVA AND HER BABIES IN MY PRAYERS. Colin Starrett wrote: > Hi, > > I recently took in a stray cat who had been hanging around my apartment, > whom I named Eva. It turned out she was 3 weeks pregnant when I took her > in. The vet confirmed the pregnancy at around the 5 week mark, but for > whatever reason didn't test Eva for FeLV or FIV until I brought her and four > kittens in when they were 3 weeks old. She tested positive for FeLV. Three > weeks later, all four kittens also tested positive. They're getting tested > again in three weeks as there's some chance for kittens to convert from > positive to negative, but I am less than hopeful at this point. > > Due to the illness, the adopters I had lined up have decided not to adopt. > I am single and live in a 1 BR apartment in Sacramento, CA. I simply can't > care for five cats, let alone FeLV+ ones. Fortunately, a shelter in > Portland, OR has agreed to help out if needed. They're called House of > Dreams and can be found on the web here: > http://kittydreams.typepad.com/house-of-dreams/. They have a dedicated area > for FeLV+ cats and will attempt to adopt them out to caring homes. > > That being said, I would like to see if there are any caring homes willing > to adopt one or more of these cute little guys before I commit them to this > shelter. If any of you are within a few hours of Sacramento and would like > to adopt, or know someone who does, please get in touch. > > Here are some pictures: > > The whole gang, about 4 weeks old: > http://img514.imageshack.us/img514/5876/30312101501970372950267.jpg . From > left to right: Fuzz (male), Doom (male), Kima (female), and Pika (female), > and in back is the mom, Eva. > > About 6 weeks old: > http://img12.imageshack.us/img12/6237/28612101502070684200267.jpg > Kima and Pika: > http://img35.imageshack.us/img35/4325/28612101502070684650267.jpg > Fuzz: http://img535.imageshack.us/img535/5323/28612101502070684750267.jpg > Doom: http://img532.imageshack.us/img532/904/28612101502070684500267.jpg > > > Thanks for all your help, > > Colin > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: a little help needed
its updating i added secondchanceme...@yahoo.com to my paypal account so it can stay the same. i love the widgets they are great Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Belinda Sauro To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sat, January 23, 2010 3:08:54 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: a little help needed OK, well it appears my real time isn't updating in real time but the money is going to Michael, would you verify that Michael. My programmer is looking at it to see what the problem is. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: a little help needed
i did send it to that list but it never posted and i could not get on the home pageplease put it there if you will Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: MaryChristine To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sat, January 23, 2010 2:17:45 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: a little help needed hi, michael-- sorry to hear about the troubles. i can't do anything before the deadline here, as i'm on disability, and sort of overstepped my allotment for january already... something that you might think about, tho, is asking folks to do a monthly stipend--we're paying a rent payment of $800/month just that way, with most folks just sending $5 or $10 a month. even folks like me can manage the $5 amount! (and could do so for you, too.) remember that a lot of folks feel that the only thing they have to offer is money, because they can't take in another critter, and they can't do transport or physically have the time to volunteer at a shelter or event. we always tell them that money is a very acceptable thing for them to give people want to help, and will if they can--you're not forcing them to, you're just letting them know that there is need. would you mind if i posted the link on the other FeLV list that susan hoffman and i moderate (FeLVPositiveCats)? i'd mostly let your chip-in page speak for itself, but mention that both susan and i have worked with your personally. let me know! MC On Thu, Jan 21, 2010 at 11:04 PM, Second Chance Meows < secondchanceme...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > Michael Johnson > Founder/Owner > Second Chance Meows > A FeLV Sanctuary > > > > - Forwarded Message > From: Second Chance Meows > To: felvpositivec...@yahoogroups.com > Sent: Mon, January 18, 2010 11:47:56 PM > Subject: a little help needed > > > > > > > > Hey everyone, > I writing today because we here at Second Chance need some help. back in > Oct Our son had to go to the hospital for major surgery and spent 14 days in > the ICU and we kind of fell behind in some things. I know lots of you don't > know me real well but those of you that do know i don't ask for help but i > do give it. please take the link and pass it around to all you know if you > would. I'm trying to do some fund raising to help us keep our house so the 8 > cats we have will continue to have a home. > > just follow the link to our donation page or pass it along to others if you > will > > http://secondchancemeows.chipin.com/second-chance-meows > > Michael Johnson > Founder/Owner > Second Chance Meows > A FeLV Sanctuary > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Fw: a little help needed
Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary - Forwarded Message From: Second Chance Meows To: felvpositivec...@yahoogroups.com Sent: Mon, January 18, 2010 11:47:56 PM Subject: a little help needed Hey everyone, I writing today because we here at Second Chance need some help. back in Oct Our son had to go to the hospital for major surgery and spent 14 days in the ICU and we kind of fell behind in some things. I know lots of you don't know me real well but those of you that do know i don't ask for help but i do give it. please take the link and pass it around to all you know if you would. I'm trying to do some fund raising to help us keep our house so the 8 cats we have will continue to have a home. just follow the link to our donation page or pass it along to others if you will http://secondchancemeows.chipin.com/second-chance-meows Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon?
one of the things that needs to be remember is that as in humans, each animal is different and will react in a different manner. any side effects , will be in a general sense. Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Jane Lyons To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 29, 2009 4:24:16 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon? I've been agonizing about giving MeMe Interferon since I've read Michael's post. I have to honestly say that if she is feeling any side effects they are not apparent. We use one day on and one day off which may be a help. Since she has been on it, her appetite has increased dramatically and she has gained 1.5 lbs which is a lot for a 6 pounder. She seems to have the same level of energy and she seems content and craves attention (which she gets, constantly). She does not have a fever and I don't think chills. I would think that if she were nauseous that her appetite would be affected. We've managed to bring her back from the brink, and I had thought the Interferon (in moderation) was helping her maintain her gains. You've caused me to rethink this protocol Michael, although since we have gotten her past the three year hurdle I am reluctant to make changes. Jane On Sep 29, 2009, at 6:00 PM, Gloria B. Lane wrote: > This is very very low dose - and has to be oral, apparently to hit the back > of the throat. > > I had good luck with it, but when it was withheld, like I said, things didn't > go well. > My kitties showed no apparent side effects. But many people have and are > using > that protocol, someone oughta research it. > > Regards > > Gloria > > > On Sep 29, 2009, at 10:24 AM, Second Chance Meows wrote: > >> my suggestion is to do some research on it. Interferon is used to fight >> forms of cancer, and is considered to be chemo. side effects include: loss >> of weight, nausea,hair loss, heart issues, pain, chills,temperature, and >> many others. >> I know your talking about low doses of it but anything that is placed into >> these little bodies that has the power to kill not only the bad cells BUT >> THE GOOD ONES TOO can not be good for them. their systems are compromised >> already. >> JUST MY OPINION. before you make the decision to give this to the >> cat...look into your own heart and ask is this for the cat..or for >> yourself?? will this really improve the quality of its life or just >> prolong the agony its going thru or create more agony,stress for it? >> >> Michael Johnson >> Founder/Owner >> Second Chance Meows >> A FeLV Sanctuary >> >> >> >> >> >> From: Esther Jorda >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 8:56:10 AM >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon? >> >> Dear Michael, Congratulations for your old kitty and thanks for your >> sanctuary. >> >> Actually vets recommend me to put xana under low dose of interferon (via >> oral) ... they do not agree if human alfa or feline omega some of them say >> one some of them the other... >> >> *Can you, please, give some advice aboud side effects??* >> >> You can be sure Xana has all my love. The problem is that actually she is >> not living with me. My home is a sort of urban shelter where live 24... too >> much cats... too much riscs... Xana needs a clean and quite environment... A >> friend gave me the opportunity, Xana is living in her appartment. She has >> to go to work, and so do I... So, Xana is alone all the day... I go as >> often as I can... 1-2 times daily... I spend with Xana 2-3 hours every >> night... unfortunately she can not sleep with me... I must go home, when >> others need me too... >> >> Speedy (my oldest baby) will be 20 y.o. He is at the end of his life... with >> CRF, IBD... I want to care him until the end >> Best regards, >> >> Esther >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> >> >> >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon?
my suggestion is to do some research on it. Interferon is used to fight forms of cancer, and is considered to be chemo. side effects include: loss of weight, nausea,hair loss, heart issues, pain, chills,temperature, and many others. I know your talking about low doses of it but anything that is placed into these little bodies that has the power to kill not only the bad cells BUT THE GOOD ONES TOO can not be good for them. their systems are compromised already. JUST MY OPINION. before you make the decision to give this to the cat...look into your own heart and ask is this for the cat..or for yourself?? will this really improve the quality of its life or just prolong the agony its going thru or create more agony,stress for it? Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Esther Jorda To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, September 28, 2009 8:56:10 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon? Dear Michael, Congratulations for your old kitty and thanks for your sanctuary. Actually vets recommend me to put xana under low dose of interferon (via oral) ... they do not agree if human alfa or feline omega some of them say one some of them the other... *Can you, please, give some advice aboud side effects??* You can be sure Xana has all my love. The problem is that actually she is not living with me. My home is a sort of urban shelter where live 24... too much cats... too much riscs... Xana needs a clean and quite environment... A friend gave me the opportunity, Xana is living in her appartment. She has to go to work, and so do I... So, Xana is alone all the day... I go as often as I can... 1-2 times daily... I spend with Xana 2-3 hours every night... unfortunately she can not sleep with me... I must go home, when others need me too... Speedy (my oldest baby) will be 20 y.o. He is at the end of his life... with CRF, IBD... I want to care him until the end Best regards, Esther ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon?
I run a FeLV sanctuary here in the states and have found that the best treatment is love and attention. Having spent almost a year on interferon, I know the side effects of it very well, and would not wish them on any living being.( human or feline). spend time with them, show them that you really care about them when no one else did. Let them spend hours in your lap, sleep on the bed, sun in the window just as any other healthy cat would do. just so you know Esther, my oldest cat here is about 16 and has had FeLV since birth, the rest are all about 3-6 yrs old and doing well Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Esther Jorda To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, September 27, 2009 5:45:27 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Xana, FelV positive - interferon? I am new to this group. I live in Spain and have some language difficults, so, sorry for the faults. I am an active member of a cat rescue group. In july I found a kitten in the street with the eyes seriously dammaged. We went to the vet and all was well, excep the positive result to FelV. A friend on mine is fostering her. She seems to be healthy and hapy. I want to give her an opportunity to live with good QOL as long as possible. Unfortunately most vets does not share my opinion, and they think it is not worth. I insist... I read all I can find. I am giving Xana L-Lysina (for her eye condicion) Vetinmune (as inmunomodulator) And I insist to put her on interferon. The vet said that -in that subclinic stadium- the alfa (humane) interferon is the election treatment. When symtoms appear, then it will be the moment to give the omega interferon... My questions are: 1) HAVE ANYONE EXPERIENCE IN THE USE OF FELINE OMEGA INTERFERON WITH ASYMPTOMATIC CATS?? I know it can not clear the virus, but ... Can it to prevent the development of any of the illness related with FelV?? 2) About propiobacterium acnes. I cant find it in Spain. The laboratory does not produce it anymore, and change it for a new product: Corynebacterium parvum (inmufort complex (R). It is used for cows. A colegue (that has a FelV shelter) wrote me to advice she is using it in her 8 FelV+ cats... she said is working well... her oldest cat is now 8 years old. 3) Xana has also chronic diarrhea, in spite I put her on intestinal diet, does no make solid faeces... Any other non invasive tratment can be usefull??? Thanks for your atention Esther ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: testing the list
Hi Sally, you might be surprised to find out about our small little sanctuary. we are a home based group that uses our house to shelter ONLY FeLV cats. we take no others currently we have 9 cats here that are all in really great shape. I try to keep a limit on how many cats we have and i think that we are going to have the ones here for a good bit, but that doesn't stop me from helping with others. we are located in Nv Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: S. Jewell To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 9:03:52 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: testing the list Michael Johnson, I'm new here but saw your name on this forum and read that you have an FeLV Sanctuary. I was wondering for future reference whether you are full or still have openings for FeLV fur babies. I am caring for three with one on Imulan and one receiving intravenous ascorbic acid weekly for his lymphosarcoma and I also have more cats than I should mention that are healthy and do not have the virus. Because we are so full and our vet costs so significant right now, I cannot take in any more FeLV cats that come my way but we hear of them occasionally. My husband and I would gladly try to scrape together the $500 on an individual cat basis for any FeLV cats that would otherwise be euthanized if we knew you could take them . It would be good to have your contact information for use in the future. Thanks, and God bless you for what you do for these unfortunate but very lucky felines. Sally Jewell www.SallysCatHouse.com > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > Second Chance Meows > Sent: Saturday, September 19, 2009 1:12 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: testing the list > > here and all kitties accounted for and happy > > Michael Johnson > Founder/Owner > Second Chance Meows > A FeLV Sanctuary > > > > > > From: James G Wilson > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 11:20:40 AM > Subject: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: testing the list > > Hey all, > > I'm just testing the list since there hasn't been any > activity since Monday. I hope no news is good news for > everyone here. Please let me know if you're having any > problems with the list. I'm always happy to assist. Best > wishes to all. > > James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net > http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research & Support) > http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com > (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.org > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felinele ukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: testing the list
here and all kitties accounted for and happy Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: James G Wilson To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, September 18, 2009 11:20:40 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] ADMIN: testing the list Hey all, I'm just testing the list since there hasn't been any activity since Monday. I hope no news is good news for everyone here. Please let me know if you're having any problems with the list. I'm always happy to assist. Best wishes to all. James G. Wilson - phaed...@charter.net http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research & Support) http://www.facebook.com/crambone http://weather62025.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] World without man
I'm afraid to say that I for 1 am insulted by this thread. first I am a male, second I have been a single dad for many years and have since remarried, third I run a sanctuary for felines please remember people in glass houses... shouldn't throw stones!!! Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Diane Rosenfeldt To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, September 7, 2009 9:11:04 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] World without man LOL, yes, it means world without "Man" as in the whole species of humans. That's very clear from the quotes from Dorlis and Lorrie below. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 11:02 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] World without man I had not seen this thread until now. I read it as "man", not "men". I thought people were talking about humans in general...? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Malone Sent: Monday, September 07, 2009 10:56 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] World without man I thought this was a site about helping felines with feline leukemia. Instead it seems to have turned into a male bashing site for the moment. There are many men that are wonderful people. You sound very bitter and hateful toward a whole group because of the actions of one. I am very blessed to know men that are caring and productive members of society--and one that has truly been a blessing to many infected cat--working multiple jobs to ensure that the cats were given the very best care. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Sunday, August 30, 2009 4:23 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] World without man On 08-30, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: > Like Mary Christine says - spay and neuter your neighbors. maybe that > will make a difference. i know a lot of people i would like to do > that to. same ones that don't take care of pets also do not take care > of children. when i reported a case of abuse, the investigator said > that at least 8 out of 10 cases of abuse he checks on, he also turns > in a report of child or spouse abuse. i wonder some times would the > world be better off without man? doris I wonder about that too Dorlis If God supposedly made man in his image it's not saying much for God. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a Sanctuary
WOW, I sit here and read all this about all these NEW places to take FeLV cats and get very scared... $7500??? for the life and i feel bad asking $500 for the lifetime and all we take are FeLV's.. who are these people and where do they get off asking that much??? Michael Johnson Founder/Owner Second Chance Meows A FeLV Sanctuary From: Susan Hoffman To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:17:42 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a Sanctuary Hmmm. Only 10 cats listed for adoption on their petfinder site. And only one of those, an FIV+ boy, is listed as special needs. This also makes me suspicious about the long term viability of the place. You have to be committed to finding homes for the cats. They need human families, attention, and they won't get that in a giant sanctuary setting. And if you're not focused on adoptions, you have to strictly limit your intake to avoid becoming overwhelmed. - Original Message From: Susan Hoffman To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:12:14 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a Sanctuary Never heard of them. According to their website they've only been around since 2005. Lots-of-cats in a rural setting always makes me nervous. And, whoa! They want a $5000 surrender fee for a healthy cat and $7500 to take in an FIV or FeLV cat. I guess that's one way to make sure you don't wind up with too many animals. - Original Message From: MaryChristine To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 11:02:34 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Urgent! FeLV cat -New Jersey- I need to find him a Sanctuary http://www.loveandhopeforanimals.org/ has anyone ever heard of these folks before? i find it really scary how many sanctuaries keep appearing, with no history in the FIV/FeLV community. MC -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
