Re: WAS: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax? - fleas; NOW: Heartworm
On Sun, 13 May 2007 15:02:19 -0500 Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Revolution for heartworms. How do yall prevent heartworms w/out Revolution? Are there other ways? Hi Kelley, I also use Revolution for my kitty, Shane. However, there are other preventatives available. Merial makes Heartgard (ivermectin) for cats and Novartis makes Interceptor (milbemycin oxime), so those would be other options. My vet prefers Revolution, I guess because it also deals with fleas, etc., plus it doesn't involve trying to get a pill into the cat (always a plus!). LOL After going through a three-month treatment process for my heartworm positive dog (found out he had it after I adopted him from the shelter) and learning how deadly it can be in cats, I decided that in this case, prevention is the way to go (I feel the benefits outweigh the risks of using these chemicals). Heartgard: http://us.merial.com/pet_owners/cats/products.asp Interceptor: http://www.interceptor.novartis.us/cat/en/about.shtml American Heartworm Society's information about heartworm in cats: http://www.knowheartworms.org/ and http://www.heartwormsociety.org/FelineHeartwormInfo.htm Sue and Shane (FeLV+)
Re: WAS: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax? - fleas; NOW: Heartworm
Yes, all my cats are on Revolution (the adult ones). Ye gods it is expensive, even ordering from Australia:( I think that Revolution has enough additional benefits to teh cat to merit it use. On 5/14/07, Susan Tillman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 13 May 2007 15:02:19 -0500 Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Revolution for heartworms. How do yall prevent heartworms w/out Revolution? Are there other ways? Hi Kelley, I also use Revolution for my kitty, Shane. However, there are other preventatives available. Merial makes Heartgard (ivermectin) for cats and Novartis makes Interceptor (milbemycin oxime), so those would be other options. My vet prefers Revolution, I guess because it also deals with fleas, etc., plus it doesn't involve trying to get a pill into the cat (always a plus!). LOL After going through a three-month treatment process for my heartworm positive dog (found out he had it after I adopted him from the shelter) and learning how deadly it can be in cats, I decided that in this case, prevention is the way to go (I feel the benefits outweigh the risks of using these chemicals). Heartgard: http://us.merial.com/pet_owners/cats/products.asp Interceptor: http://www.interceptor.novartis.us/cat/en/about.shtml American Heartworm Society's information about heartworm in cats: http://www.knowheartworms.org/ and http://www.heartwormsociety.org/FelineHeartwormInfo.htm Sue and Shane (FeLV+) -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Gandalf! http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax? - fleas
In a message dated 5/12/07 3:01:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: All pesticides are toxic poisons, something people tend to forget! That's why I do my best to avoid using them, and I use a flea shampoo first, as it rinses off. Like I said, if it has numerous warnings So true... And, I always tended to avoid using them, bathing dogs, etc., but now, since MVA it's not possible for me to get my dogs in tub (Especially, my Rottie. But I can't even lift my small [approx. 45 lbs.] dog into tub!!) And, when I [finally] got home from hosp., I had a SEVERE flea epidemic!!! (Rainy spring...) Needless to say, dogs had to go out, all my cats are indoor only, but, well, fleas are monsters!!! And, bathing some of my cats [now] is next to impossible. Any suggestions??? And, guess what? Another rainy spring, fleas are starting... I guess I could hose down bathe the K-9's prior to bringing them in. But, they only go out for walks, not chained outside or anything, but those dern fleas are quick What to do, what to do.. Hugs, A Confused Patti her gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax? - fleas
Patti, I think in cases where people have indoor/outdoor pets, like dogs, and live in a high flea zone, it's almost impossible to avoid repellant type fleas medications. It's probably worth the risk in those cases. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources http://www.iGive.com/html/refer.cfm?causeid=21303 Sign up for iGive and a percentage of your purchases helps save animals!
Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax? - fleas
I use Revolution for heartworms. How do yall prevent heartworms w/out Revolution? Are there other ways? On 5/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patti, I think in cases where people have indoor/outdoor pets, like dogs, and live in a high flea zone, it's almost impossible to avoid repellant type fleas medications. It's probably worth the risk in those cases. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources http://www.iGive.com/html/refer.cfm?causeid=21303 Sign up for iGive and a percentage of your purchases helps save animals! -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Gandalf! http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax? - fleas
some of live in places where heartworms haven't discovered cats yet.. or, at least, where vets don't think they have. On 5/13/07, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I use Revolution for heartworms. How do yall prevent heartworms w/out Revolution? Are there other ways? On 5/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Patti, I think in cases where people have indoor/outdoor pets, like dogs, and live in a high flea zone, it's almost impossible to avoid repellant type fleas medications. It's probably worth the risk in those cases. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources http://www.iGive.com/html/refer.cfm?causeid=21303 Sign up for iGive and a percentage of your purchases helps save animals! -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Gandalf! http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo! -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax? - fleas
I'm in Vermont, we don't have mosquitoes very much here, certainly not in the house! No risk here. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources http://www.iGive.com/html/refer.cfm?causeid=21303 Sign up for iGive and a percentage of your purchases helps save animals!
Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax? - fleas
Yall are lucky in that respect. For me it is a much bigger risk to leave them unprotected for heartworms. Awareness is ok around here..we even have a billbord on I-35 - One heartworm can kill your cat. Treatment isn't anywhere naer as good as it is in dogs. So many times I find it is a matter of picking which option is less dangerous. Which I hate, but what can you do On 5/13/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm in Vermont, we don't have mosquitoes very much here, certainly not in the house! No risk here. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources http://www.iGive.com/html/refer.cfm?causeid=21303 Sign up for iGive and a percentage of your purchases helps save animals! -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Gandalf! http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax? - fleas
All pesticides are toxic poisons, something people tend to forget! That's why I do my best to avoid using them, and I use a flea shampoo first, as it rinses off. Like I said, if it has numerous warnings on it to wash your hands after contact... do you REALLY want to POUR it over your cat's skin (and leave it there)?! Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources http://www.iGive.com/html/refer.cfm?causeid=21303 Sign up for iGive and a percentage of your purchases helps save animals!
Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax? - fleas
I almost lost one of my cats using Advantage,, She was 3 years old went into a semi-coma Was hospitalized for over 3 weeks. Still never found out why. Thought I would lose her. I was frantic, didn't know just what the problem was Thank heavens she finally came around -after a really long time. I will NEVER use it again! Now use Frontline - NO problems at all... Still can't figure what the problem was. Either could vet. Just my personal experience Hugs, Patti her flea free gang ** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.
Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax? - fleas
*I had a similar situation with Frontline. Threw my boy Alex into liver failure. When the vet looked at his CBC he looked baffled and all he could say was This is a train wreck! - He explained that all he could do is start with the most important organs and work his way up. Thought we would lose Alex too... I'm very careful with Frontline... never had trouble with Advantage though.* *Leslie =^..^=* On 5/10/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I almost lost one of my cats using Advantage,, She was 3 years old went into a semi-coma Was hospitalized for over 3 weeks. Still never found out why. Thought I would lose her. I was frantic, didn't know just what the problem was Thank heavens she finally came around -after a really long time. I will *NEVER *use it again! Now use Frontline - NO problems at all... Still can't figure what the problem was. Either could vet. Just my personal experience Hugs, Patti her flea free gang -- See what's free at AOL.com http://www.aol.com/?ncid=AOLAOF0002000503. -- Leslie =^..^= To leave the world a better place - whether by a healthy child, a garden patch, or an improved social condition - that is to have succeeded. That only one life breathed easier because you lived - that is success. ---Ralph Waldo Emerson
Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax? - fleas
I know, Nina. I'm not good at making these decisions. Why can't they be 2 lb already, g. On 5/9/07, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kelley, This is the second time you've mentioned your kitten's flea problem. If your kitten's flea infestation is great, they could be causing more problems than the risks of treating them, (I'm sure you know that kittens can develop anemia from the little blood suckers). I know these guys have serious URI symptoms. You are there, you would know better than me if it's worth it, or not. I just wanted to mention that I have applied the tiniest amount of advantage to healthy kittens as young as 3 weeks old. I put a drop of advantage on the end of a qtip and then apply that to the kitten. The next day, no more fleas. I wouldn't use revolution because of what happened to Kerry's kitty, (as Phaewryn just reminded us). Nina Kelley Saveika wrote: I can ask in the future that they not apply it to the pregnant cats. Unfortunately that doesn't mean they will remember. My poor nursing mom is not even getting zithro...vet said no studies have been done. I have not treated my kittens for fleas at all, other than combing and bathing them, and I'm not bathing them atm because they are sick. So on top of everything else we have fleas...my vet will not allow me to give capstar at less than 2 lb. 2 lb seems like a HUGE cat to me now. On 5/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Revolution almost killed a member's cat here a few years back, it's totally NOT recommended for underweight, weak, sick, or debilitated cats or kittens. We were even successful at having the internationally distributed label changed to reflect that fact, as only their US label said that warning (it's called a different brand overseas - but it's the same product). Just wanted to mention it, since you said they treated momma cat with it at the shelter. I would never use it on a pregnant cat, even if the label says it's OK. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources http://www.iGive.com/html/refer.cfm?causeid=21303 Sign up for iGive and a percentage of your purchases helps save animals! -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Gandalf! http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!
Re: OT- Cheap source of Zithromax? - fleas
Zithromax is considered safe for pregnant and nursing moms. I googled it once upon a time and found the information (breeder related but it may be on the manufacturer's packaging.) ust google it and you'll find it. Your vet is definitely wrong on this one. I have also used Advantage on tiny kittens. I just do a dab on my fingertip and touch to the back of the kitten's neck. I've never had an adverse reaction but you can always wash them off if you get nervous. I reserve Revolution of those over 4 months Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know, Nina. I'm not good at making these decisions. Why can't they be 2 lb already, g. On 5/9/07, Nina wrote: Kelley, This is the second time you've mentioned your kitten's flea problem. If your kitten's flea infestation is great, they could be causing more problems than the risks of treating them, (I'm sure you know that kittens can develop anemia from the little blood suckers). I know these guys have serious URI symptoms. You are there, you would know better than me if it's worth it, or not. I just wanted to mention that I have applied the tiniest amount of advantage to healthy kittens as young as 3 weeks old. I put a drop of advantage on the end of a qtip and then apply that to the kitten. The next day, no more fleas. I wouldn't use revolution because of what happened to Kerry's kitty, (as Phaewryn just reminded us). Nina Kelley Saveika wrote: I can ask in the future that they not apply it to the pregnant cats. Unfortunately that doesn't mean they will remember. My poor nursing mom is not even getting zithro...vet said no studies have been done. I have not treated my kittens for fleas at all, other than combing and bathing them, and I'm not bathing them atm because they are sick. So on top of everything else we have fleas...my vet will not allow me to give capstar at less than 2 lb. 2 lb seems like a HUGE cat to me now. On 5/9/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Revolution almost killed a member's cat here a few years back, it's totally NOT recommended for underweight, weak, sick, or debilitated cats or kittens. We were even successful at having the internationally distributed label changed to reflect that fact, as only their US label said that warning (it's called a different brand overseas - but it's the same product). Just wanted to mention it, since you said they treated momma cat with it at the shelter. I would never use it on a pregnant cat, even if the label says it's OK. Phaewryn http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Special Needs Cat Resources http://www.iGive.com/html/refer.cfm?causeid=21303 Sign up for iGive and a percentage of your purchases helps save animals! -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://astore.amazon.com/rescuties-20 Please help Gandalf! http://www.firstgiving.com/gandalfkitty I GoodSearch for Rescuties. Raise money for your favorite charity or school just by searching the Internet with GoodSearch - www.goodsearch.com - powered by Yahoo!