Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
Some PetsMart stores have an attached vet clinic called Banfield. Sharyl --- On Thu, 6/18/09, gary wrote: > From: gary > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Thursday, June 18, 2009, 1:54 PM > It is Hill's Prescription Diet a/d. > > Gary > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] > On Behalf Of Sander, Sue > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:53 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D > > But is it simply called A/D with Banfield? What is > Banfield? > > Thanks, > > Susan > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] > On Behalf Of Debbie > Harrison > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:52 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D > > > I'm almost certain it is made by Hill's Science Diet > > Debbie (COL) > "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard > battle" Philo > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
It is Hill's Prescription Diet a/d. Gary -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sander, Sue Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 11:53 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D But is it simply called A/D with Banfield? What is Banfield? Thanks, Susan -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Debbie Harrison Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D I'm almost certain it is made by Hill's Science Diet Debbie (COL) "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle" Philo ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
banfield is a veterinary-clinic chain that has clinics inside of many petsmart locations. hill's a/d is the name -- any vet will know exactly what you mean! it is a prescription food, tho, so while you can buy it there, you'll need a scrip. -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
No,no,no...Banfield is the animal hospital attached to PetsmartIt's Hill's Science Diet a/d...that's it. Debbie (COL) "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle" Philo > Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:53:19 -0400 > From: sue.san...@ssa.gov > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D > > But is it simply called A/D with Banfield? What is Banfield? > > Thanks, > > Susan > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Debbie > Harrison > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:52 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D > > > I'm almost certain it is made by Hill's Science Diet > > Debbie (COL) > "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle" Philo > > > > > Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:47:10 -0400 > > From: sue.san...@ssa.gov > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D > > > > What is the full name of A/D - like if I went to the pet store, what > > would I ask for? > > > > Thanks, > > > > Susan > > > > -Original Message- > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > > MaryChristine > > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:44 PM > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D > > > > the benefit of a/d is the consistency/texture: MUCH easier to > > syringe-feed than most things you can prepare yourself. baby food is a > > > good texture, but for an immediate shot of high-protein, palatable > > stuff that most cats will like a lot, a/d should definitely be in most > folks' > > homes. > > > > so much for my humility. > > -- > > Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! > > Maybe That'll Make The Difference > > > > MaryChristine > > Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue > > (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _ > Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live > Spaces. It's easy! > http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.a > spx&mkt=en-us > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out! http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
But is it simply called A/D with Banfield? What is Banfield? Thanks, Susan -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Debbie Harrison Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D I'm almost certain it is made by Hill's Science Diet Debbie (COL) "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle" Philo > Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:47:10 -0400 > From: sue.san...@ssa.gov > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D > > What is the full name of A/D - like if I went to the pet store, what > would I ask for? > > Thanks, > > Susan > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of > MaryChristine > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:44 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D > > the benefit of a/d is the consistency/texture: MUCH easier to > syringe-feed than most things you can prepare yourself. baby food is a > good texture, but for an immediate shot of high-protein, palatable > stuff that most cats will like a lot, a/d should definitely be in most folks' > homes. > > so much for my humility. > -- > Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! > Maybe That'll Make The Difference > > MaryChristine > Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue > (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.a spx&mkt=en-us ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
I'm almost certain it is made by Hill's Science Diet Debbie (COL) "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle" Philo > Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 12:47:10 -0400 > From: sue.san...@ssa.gov > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D > > What is the full name of A/D - like if I went to the pet store, what > would I ask for? > > Thanks, > > Susan > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine > Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:44 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D > > the benefit of a/d is the consistency/texture: MUCH easier to > syringe-feed than most things you can prepare yourself. baby food is a > good texture, but for an immediate shot of high-protein, palatable stuff > that most cats will like a lot, a/d should definitely be in most folks' > homes. > > so much for my humility. > -- > Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! > Maybe That'll Make The Difference > > MaryChristine > Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue > (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Invite your mail contacts to join your friends list with Windows Live Spaces. It's easy! http://spaces.live.com/spacesapi.aspx?wx_action=create&wx_url=/friends.aspx&mkt=en-us ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
What is the full name of A/D - like if I went to the pet store, what would I ask for? Thanks, Susan -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 12:44 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D the benefit of a/d is the consistency/texture: MUCH easier to syringe-feed than most things you can prepare yourself. baby food is a good texture, but for an immediate shot of high-protein, palatable stuff that most cats will like a lot, a/d should definitely be in most folks' homes. so much for my humility. -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
the benefit of a/d is the consistency/texture: MUCH easier to syringe-feed than most things you can prepare yourself. baby food is a good texture, but for an immediate shot of high-protein, palatable stuff that most cats will like a lot, a/d should definitely be in most folks' homes. so much for my humility. -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
You can only buy it from the Petsmarts here that have Banfields in them...so you are, in effect, purchasing it from a vet. 2009/6/18 Debbie Harrison > > Same here in Florida...but you can't just buy it at the store...you must > purchase it from a vet. > > Debbie (COL) > "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle" Philo > > > > > From: maima...@duo-county.com > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:27:43 -0500 > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D > > > > Try another vet...It runs about $2 a can in Louisville (it has been a > > few months since I checked). > > On Jun 17, 2009, at 10:25 PM, Kelley Saveika wrote: > > > > > I don't remember, but considerably less than $4 a can. > > > > > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:36 PM, MaryChristine < > twelvehousec...@gmail.com > > > >wrote: > > > > > >> how much is it at petsmart? > > >> > > >> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Kelley Saveika > > >> wrote: > > >> > > >>> Great idea to keep A/D on hand > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >>> > > >> Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! > > >> Maybe That'll Make The Difference > > >> > > >> MaryChristine > > >> Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue ( > www.purebredcats.org > > >> ) > > >> Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) > > >> ___ > > >> Felvtalk mailing list > > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ > > >> felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > > > > > http://www.rescuties.org > > > > > > Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! > > > > > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 > > > > > > http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* > > > > > > Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! > > > http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties > > > > > > Help us spay some kitties! > > > > > > http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals > > > > > > "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take > > > them first > > > as long as you leave me alone". > > > ___ > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > Marylyn, Copper & Thomas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > _ > Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out! > http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take them first as long as you leave me alone". ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
Everything costs more at the emergency vet. They have you over a barrel as no one else is open. On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 6:27 AM, Cougar Clan wrote: > Try another vet...It runs about $2 a can in Louisville (it has been a few > months since I checked). > > On Jun 17, 2009, at 10:25 PM, Kelley Saveika wrote: > > I don't remember, but considerably less than $4 a can. >> >> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:36 PM, MaryChristine > >wrote: >> >> how much is it at petsmart? >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Kelley Saveika >>> wrote: >>> >>> Great idea to keep A/D on hand >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! >>> Maybe That'll Make The Difference >>> >>> MaryChristine >>> Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue ( >>> www.purebredcats.org >>> ) >>> Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) >>> ___ >>> Felvtalk mailing list >>> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. >> >> http://www.rescuties.org >> >> Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! >> >> http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 >> >> http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* >> >> Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! >> http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties >> >> Help us spay some kitties! >> >> http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals >> >> "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take them >> first >> as long as you leave me alone". >> ___ >> Felvtalk mailing list >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org >> >> > Marylyn, Copper & Thomas > > > > > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take them first as long as you leave me alone". ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
Another thought: Compare the A/D ingredients and purpose with some of the better OTC foods. A/D has been such a standby that other foods are often ignored. This is a judgment call. On Jun 18, 2009, at 7:13 AM, Debbie Harrison wrote: Same here in Florida...but you can't just buy it at the store...you must purchase it from a vet. Debbie (COL) "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle" Philo From: maima...@duo-county.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:27:43 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D Try another vet...It runs about $2 a can in Louisville (it has been a few months since I checked). On Jun 17, 2009, at 10:25 PM, Kelley Saveika wrote: I don't remember, but considerably less than $4 a can. On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:36 PM, MaryChristine wrote: how much is it at petsmart? On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Kelley Saveika wrote: Great idea to keep A/D on hand -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org ) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take them first as long as you leave me alone". ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper & Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out! http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper & Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
Same here in Florida...but you can't just buy it at the store...you must purchase it from a vet. Debbie (COL) "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle" Philo > From: maima...@duo-county.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2009 06:27:43 -0500 > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D > > Try another vet...It runs about $2 a can in Louisville (it has been a > few months since I checked). > On Jun 17, 2009, at 10:25 PM, Kelley Saveika wrote: > > > I don't remember, but considerably less than $4 a can. > > > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:36 PM, MaryChristine > >wrote: > > > >> how much is it at petsmart? > >> > >> On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Kelley Saveika > >> wrote: > >> > >>> Great idea to keep A/D on hand > >> > >> > >> -- > >>> > >> Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! > >> Maybe That'll Make The Difference > >> > >> MaryChristine > >> Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org > >> ) > >> Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) > >> ___ > >> Felvtalk mailing list > >> Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ > >> felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. > > > > http://www.rescuties.org > > > > Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! > > > > http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 > > > > http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* > > > > Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! > > http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties > > > > Help us spay some kitties! > > > > http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals > > > > "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take > > them first > > as long as you leave me alone". > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > Marylyn, Copper & Thomas > > > > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live™: Keep your life in sync. Check it out! http://windowslive.com/explore?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_t1_allup_explore_012009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
Try another vet...It runs about $2 a can in Louisville (it has been a few months since I checked). On Jun 17, 2009, at 10:25 PM, Kelley Saveika wrote: I don't remember, but considerably less than $4 a can. On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:36 PM, MaryChristine >wrote: how much is it at petsmart? On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Kelley Saveika wrote: Great idea to keep A/D on hand -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org ) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take them first as long as you leave me alone". ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper & Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D
I don't remember, but considerably less than $4 a can. On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 7:36 PM, MaryChristine wrote: > how much is it at petsmart? > > On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Kelley Saveika > wrote: > > > Great idea to keep A/D on hand > > > -- > > > Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! > Maybe That'll Make The Difference > > MaryChristine > Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org > ) > Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take them first as long as you leave me alone". ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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how much is it at petsmart? On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 5:45 PM, Kelley Saveika wrote: > Great idea to keep A/D on hand -- > Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Great idea to keep A/D on handwe can buy at the emergency vet but it is $4.00 A CAN!If you can get a prescription from your vet you can buy at Petsmart, as long as there is a Banfield in there. They will give you a card and you can buy it at the regular checkout counter. On Wed, Jun 17, 2009 at 12:24 PM, Emily Hunter wrote: > > Just a quick question for future referrence, since all of my babies are > eating fine at the moment. I'm considering just keeping some of the A/D on > hand since my cats don't always get sick when the vet's open. How long is it > generally good for? In addition to Tofu being positive, I've been cautioned > to really keep a close eye on our 20-lbs-er. (He is fat, but he and his > littermates all have huge frames as well, so 20lbs, while not being good, > isn't quite as bad as it seems. He is losing weight slowly since I've taken > most of the treats away from Mom!) > > -Emily > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take them first as long as you leave me alone". ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I always keep a few cans on handbut I haven't checked for expiration dates on them...didn't even think about it. I would call the 800 number for Science Diet and ask them! Debbie (COL) "Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle" Philo > From: emilyofw...@aol.com > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 12:24:15 -0500 > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question about A/D > > > Just a quick question for future referrence, since all of my babies > are eating fine at the moment. I'm considering just keeping some of > the A/D on hand since my cats don't always get sick when the vet's > open. How long is it generally good for? In addition to Tofu being > positive, I've been cautioned to really keep a close eye on our 20-lbs- > er. (He is fat, but he and his littermates all have huge frames as > well, so 20lbs, while not being good, isn't quite as bad as it seems. > He is losing weight slowly since I've taken most of the treats away > from Mom!) > > -Emily > Sent from my iPhone > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Drag n’ drop—Get easy photo sharing with Windows Live™ Photos. http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowslive/products/photos.aspx ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I just called Hills and he said there is a best before date in red on the bottom of each can. If it is say 05 2010, it is good until the 1st of May 2010. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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But I wouldn't want to paint it. (Stole that from Steven Wright...sorry!) Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 2:10 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question on Rescue It's a very small world! LOL Christiane Biagi Cell: 914-720-6888 ti...@mindspring.com Volunteer-St. Bernard Parish Animal Shelter http://www.flickr.com/photos/sbpshelter/sets/72157603921945483/ -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question on Rescue wait, wait, i just approved his photos to the persian list today! just didn't connect him with you, chris -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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It's a very small world! LOL Christiane Biagi Cell: 914-720-6888 ti...@mindspring.com Volunteer-St. Bernard Parish Animal Shelter http://www.flickr.com/photos/sbpshelter/sets/72157603921945483/ -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaryChristine Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 2:59 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question on Rescue wait, wait, i just approved his photos to the persian list today! just didn't connect him with you, chris -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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wait, wait, i just approved his photos to the persian list today! just didn't connect him with you, chris -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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i don't know that rescue; there is a persian rescue in DFW, however. you can also post him on the persian rescue list as well as at www.purebredcats.org, on their message boards. i can ask around for other options. MC -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi, Chris -- I have no useful input here, but just wanted to say that Mugsy is a very pretty smooshy-faced boy. Vibes that he finds a new forever home where he can let his guard down and be happy. Diane R. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Chris Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 12:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Question on Rescue I volunteer at an always full, always crowded municipal animal shelter in Chalmette, Louisiana (just east of New Orleans). They just got an owner surrender of a 7 year old Exotic and I was trying to find a rescue for him. He's been bounced around since his elderly owner died and is now hissing, snarling-all those things that pampered kitties do when they are very unhappy and very scared. We found a rescue but have never worked with them and I was wondering if anyone on the group knows them. I hate to send animals out somewhere without being sure as to what its like where they're going! The rescue is the South Texas Persian Rescue San Antonio, Tx And the kitty is Mugsy: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sbpshelter/ I know folks on this board are from everywhere and I'm hoping there's someone who may have had some experience with them. You can e-mail or call me-my info is below in my signature. Thank you. Christiane Biagi Cell: 914-720-6888 ti...@mindspring.com Volunteer-St. Bernard Parish Animal Shelter http://www.flickr.com/photos/sbpshelter/sets/72157603921945483/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question re: keeping them healthy-article
You didn't get it because your immune system was strong enough to fight it off. Hospitalized patients are the ones that are at risk for getting c-diff. I could probably take care of a hundred patients with it and not get it. The reason we (nurses) wear gowns when taking care of these patients is not so much for our protection, but rather for the protection of our other patients. And c-diff definitely isn't new. It's been around for a while! Lisa On Fri 12/12/08 10:18 AM , "Rosenfeldt, Diane" d...@quarles.com sent: Argh! My mother got C. diff when she was in a nursing home, and it was a horrible horrible thing. It didn't kill her, but it took months to clear up. She had fallen and broken a hip and a wrist, and the constant diarrhea made everything much much harder for her and her caretakers. I'm sort of surprised that I didn't get it from visiting her! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Argh! My mother got C. diff when she was in a nursing home, and it was a horrible horrible thing. It didn't kill her, but it took months to clear up. She had fallen and broken a hip and a wrist, and the constant diarrhea made everything much much harder for her and her caretakers. I'm sort of surprised that I didn't get it from visiting her! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 9:09 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re: keeping them healthy-article http://bulletin.aarp.org/opinions/othervoices/articles/a_hospital_germ_o n_the_warpath_.html Opinion - A Hospital Germ on the WarpathYou can take some simple steps to avoid infection By Betsy McCaughey - November 1, 2008 - From the AARP Bulletin print edition Grace Voros was 85 and enjoying life, watching her family grow and taking romantic walks with the man she fell in love with 61 years ago, when she took a minor fall. She went to the hospital for an x-ray, where tests confirmed she had no broken bones. But while there, she contracted an infection no one in the family had ever heard about, "C. diff," and died. C. diff, short for Clostridium difficile, is raging through hospitals, infecting hundreds of thousands of patients a year. The bacteria contaminate every surface, including bed rails, bed tables, nurses' uniforms, privacy curtains, faucets and call buttons. When patients touch these surfaces and then pick up food without washing their hands, they ingest the germ. Any patient taking antibiotics who ingests C. diff is in danger of developing severe diarrhea, leading to dehydration, inflammation of the colon and even death. Routine cleaning isn't enough to protect you from C. diff. Researchers at Case Western Reserve and the Cleveland VA Medical Center found that after routine cleaning at a hospital, 78 percent of surfaces were still contaminated. To kill the germ, you need to use bleach. When surfaces are not properly disinfected, the results can be deadly. At Thomas Jefferson Medical Center in Philadelphia, three consecutive patients occupying the same room came down with C. diff. One died. Staffs at many U.S. hospitals are woefully uninformed about what to do. One study reported that 39 percent of medical personnel didn't know that C. diff could be spread on stethoscopes, blood pressure cuffs and other equipment. About two-thirds of medical staff were unaware they should clean their hands with soap and water, because alcohol sanitizers don't kill this superbug. What can you do to protect yourself? Insist that everyone treating you clean their hands before touching you. Clean your own hands thoroughly before eating. Do not touch your hands to your lips. Do not place your food or utensils on any surface except your plate. Ask family to bring wipes containing bleach to clean the items around your bed. When you leave the hospital, assume any belongings you bring home are contaminated. Do not mix clothes from the hospital with the family wash; wash with bleach. Regular laundry detergents do not kill C. diff. If you are visiting someone in the hospital, be careful about eating in the cafeteria or a restaurant where the staff go in their scrubs or uniforms. These uniforms could be covered in invisible superbugs. More than 20 percent of nurses' uniforms had C. diff on them at the end of a workday, according to one study. Imagine sliding into a restaurant booth after a nurse has left the germ on the table or the seat. You could easily pick it up on your hands and then ingest it with your sandwich. Poor hospital hygiene and lax practices such as wearing scrubs in public are putting all of us at risk. That's why I founded RID, the Committee to Reduce Infection Deaths, so that other families won't have to go through what Grace Voros' family suffered. Betsy McCaughey is a former lieutenant governor of New York. On Dec 12, 2008, at 1:27 AM, wrote: > yes it is. story was about Grace Voros, 85 who took a minor fall. > went to hospital for x-ray. no broken bones, but contracted c. diff > and died. article was in aarp bulletin for november 2008. if > someone will tell me how to copy article and attach to email, will > do. dorlis > catatonya wrote: >> what is the germ? is it c-diff? My grandmother died from that in >> August. Evidently it's highly contagious. >> tonya >> >> dlg...@windstream.net wrote: >> just saw article in AARP magazine about a new germ that only >> Clorox can kill it. it is popping up in hospitals all over. said >> that if go to hospital, make sure all coming into your room wash >> hands throughly with
Re: [Felvtalk] Question re: keeping them healthy-article
http://bulletin.aarp.org/opinions/othervoices/articles/a_hospital_germ_on_the_warpath_.html Opinion - A Hospital Germ on the WarpathYou can take some simple steps to avoid infection By Betsy McCaughey - November 1, 2008 - From the AARP Bulletin print edition Grace Voros was 85 and enjoying life, watching her family grow and taking romantic walks with the man she fell in love with 61 years ago, when she took a minor fall. She went to the hospital for an x-ray, where tests confirmed she had no broken bones. But while there, she contracted an infection no one in the family had ever heard about, “C. diff,” and died. C. diff, short for Clostridium difficile, is raging through hospitals, infecting hundreds of thousands of patients a year. The bacteria contaminate every surface, including bed rails, bed tables, nurses’ uniforms, privacy curtains, faucets and call buttons. When patients touch these surfaces and then pick up food without washing their hands, they ingest the germ. Any patient taking antibiotics who ingests C. diff is in danger of developing severe diarrhea, leading to dehydration, inflammation of the colon and even death. Routine cleaning isn’t enough to protect you from C. diff. Researchers at Case Western Reserve and the Cleveland VA Medical Center found that after routine cleaning at a hospital, 78 percent of surfaces were still contaminated. To kill the germ, you need to use bleach. When surfaces are not properly disinfected, the results can be deadly. At Thomas Jefferson Medical Center in Philadelphia, three consecutive patients occupying the same room came down with C. diff. One died. Staffs at many U.S. hospitals are woefully uninformed about what to do. One study reported that 39 percent of medical personnel didn’t know that C. diff could be spread on stethoscopes, blood pressure cuffs and other equipment. About two-thirds of medical staff were unaware they should clean their hands with soap and water, because alcohol sanitizers don’t kill this superbug. What can you do to protect yourself? Insist that everyone treating you clean their hands before touching you. Clean your own hands thoroughly before eating. Do not touch your hands to your lips. Do not place your food or utensils on any surface except your plate. Ask family to bring wipes containing bleach to clean the items around your bed. When you leave the hospital, assume any belongings you bring home are contaminated. Do not mix clothes from the hospital with the family wash; wash with bleach. Regular laundry detergents do not kill C. diff. If you are visiting someone in the hospital, be careful about eating in the cafeteria or a restaurant where the staff go in their scrubs or uniforms. These uniforms could be covered in invisible superbugs. More than 20 percent of nurses’ uniforms had C. diff on them at the end of a workday, according to one study. Imagine sliding into a restaurant booth after a nurse has left the germ on the table or the seat. You could easily pick it up on your hands and then ingest it with your sandwich. Poor hospital hygiene and lax practices such as wearing scrubs in public are putting all of us at risk. That’s why I founded RID, the Committee to Reduce Infection Deaths, so that other families won’t have to go through what Grace Voros’ family suffered. Betsy McCaughey is a former lieutenant governor of New York. On Dec 12, 2008, at 1:27 AM, wrote: > yes it is. story was about Grace Voros, 85 who took a minor fall. > went to hospital for x-ray. no broken bones, but contracted c. diff > and died. article was in aarp bulletin for november 2008. if > someone will tell me how to copy article and attach to email, will > do. dorlis > catatonya wrote: >> what is the germ? is it c-diff? My grandmother died from that in >> August. Evidently it's highly contagious. >> tonya >> >> dlg...@windstream.net wrote: >> just saw article in AARP magazine about a new germ that only >> Clorox can kill it. it is popping up in hospitals all over. said >> that if go to hospital, make sure all coming into your room wash >> hands throughly with lots of soap and water. also bed rails, etc >> should all be washed down. seems lately, we can get sicker in >> hospital than at home. one lady died from it. dorlis >> Pat Kachur wrote: >>> If you are concerned, you could wipe off your shoes with some type >>> of "germ >>> killer" before you come in the house. >>> >>> >>> - Original Message - >>> From: "Lisa Borden" >>> To: >>> Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:32 AM >>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Question re: keeping them healthy >>> >>> I am at work and I just thought of something. I am a nurse and come in contact with "human" bugs all the time. Is it logical for me to think that I should NOT let ANY of my cats come in contact with my clothes or shoes when I come home? O
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Actually, it isn't a new germ. A lot of patients get it when they are on multiple antibiotics. Good handwashing technique is a must when there is c-diff. (c-dificile). Causes severe diarrhea. Alice - Original Message - From: dlg...@windstream.net<mailto:dlg...@windstream.net> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Cc: catatonya<mailto:catato...@yahoo.com> Sent: Friday, December 12, 2008 1:27 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re: keeping them healthy yes it is. story was about Grace Voros, 85 who took a minor fall. went to hospital for x-ray. no broken bones, but contracted c. diff and died. article was in aarp bulletin for november 2008. if someone will tell me how to copy article and attach to email, will do. dorlis catatonya mailto:catato...@yahoo.com>> wrote: > what is the germ? is it c-diff? My grandmother died from that in August. Evidently it's highly contagious. > tonya > > dlg...@windstream.net<mailto:dlg...@windstream.net> wrote: > just saw article in AARP magazine about a new germ that only Clorox can kill it. it is popping up in hospitals all over. said that if go to hospital, make sure all coming into your room wash hands throughly with lots of soap and water. also bed rails, etc should all be washed down. seems lately, we can get sicker in hospital than at home. one lady died from it. dorlis > Pat Kachur wrote: > > If you are concerned, you could wipe off your shoes with some type of "germ > > killer" before you come in the house. > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Lisa Borden" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:32 AM > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question re: keeping them healthy > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am at work and I just thought of something. I am a nurse and come > > > in contact with "human" bugs all the time. Is it logical for me to > > > think that I should NOT let ANY of my cats come in contact with my > > > clothes or shoes when I come home? Or are the human bugs not a risk > > > for them. > > > > > > They are usually afraid of my white clothes anyway (cats are so > > > funny), but it's my shoes I am more concerned with. > > > ___ > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org<http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org> > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org<http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org> > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org<http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org> > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org<http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org> ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org<http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org> ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Question re: keeping them healthy
yes it is. story was about Grace Voros, 85 who took a minor fall. went to hospital for x-ray. no broken bones, but contracted c. diff and died. article was in aarp bulletin for november 2008. if someone will tell me how to copy article and attach to email, will do. dorlis catatonya wrote: > what is the germ? is it c-diff? My grandmother died from that in August. > Evidently it's highly contagious. > tonya > > dlg...@windstream.net wrote: > just saw article in AARP magazine about a new germ that only Clorox can > kill it. it is popping up in hospitals all over. said that if go to hospital, > make sure all coming into your room wash hands throughly with lots of soap > and water. also bed rails, etc should all be washed down. seems lately, we > can get sicker in hospital than at home. one lady died from it. dorlis > Pat Kachur wrote: > > If you are concerned, you could wipe off your shoes with some type of "germ > > killer" before you come in the house. > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Lisa Borden" > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:32 AM > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question re: keeping them healthy > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am at work and I just thought of something. I am a nurse and come > > > in contact with "human" bugs all the time. Is it logical for me to > > > think that I should NOT let ANY of my cats come in contact with my > > > clothes or shoes when I come home? Or are the human bugs not a risk > > > for them. > > > > > > They are usually afraid of my white clothes anyway (cats are so > > > funny), but it's my shoes I am more concerned with. > > > ___ > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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what is the germ? is it c-diff? My grandmother died from that in August. Evidently it's highly contagious. tonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: just saw article in AARP magazine about a new germ that only Clorox can kill it. it is popping up in hospitals all over. said that if go to hospital, make sure all coming into your room wash hands throughly with lots of soap and water. also bed rails, etc should all be washed down. seems lately, we can get sicker in hospital than at home. one lady died from it. dorlis Pat Kachur wrote: > If you are concerned, you could wipe off your shoes with some type of "germ > killer" before you come in the house. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Lisa Borden" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:32 AM > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question re: keeping them healthy > > > > > > > > I am at work and I just thought of something. I am a nurse and come > > in contact with "human" bugs all the time. Is it logical for me to > > think that I should NOT let ANY of my cats come in contact with my > > clothes or shoes when I come home? Or are the human bugs not a risk > > for them. > > > > They are usually afraid of my white clothes anyway (cats are so > > funny), but it's my shoes I am more concerned with. > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Did the article mention the name of this germ? Thanks, Lisa On Tue 09/12/08 10:50 PM , [EMAIL PROTECTED] sent: just saw article in AARP magazine about a new germ that only Clorox can kill it. it is popping up in hospitals all over. said that if go to hospital, make sure all coming into your room wash hands throughly with lots of soap and water. also bed rails, etc should all be washed down. seems lately, we can get sicker in hospital than at home. one lady died from it. dorlis Pat Kachur wrote: > If you are concerned, you could wipe off your shoes with some type of "germ > killer" before you come in the house. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Lisa Borden" > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:32 AM > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question re: keeping them healthy > > > > > > > > I am at work and I just thought of something. I am a nurse and come > > in contact with "human" bugs all the time. Is it logical for me to > > think that I should NOT let ANY of my cats come in contact with my > > clothes or shoes when I come home? Or are the human bugs not a risk > > for them. > > > > They are usually afraid of my white clothes anyway (cats are so > > funny), but it's my shoes I am more concerned with. > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org [4] > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org [5] > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org [6] > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org [7] ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org [8] http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org [9] Links: -- [1] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [2] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] [3] mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org [4] mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org [5] https://webmail2.agoc.com/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Ffelineleukemia.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ffelvtalk_felineleukemia.org [6] mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org [7] https://webmail2.agoc.com/parse.php?redirect=http%3A%2F%2Ffelineleukemia.org%2Fmailman%2Flistinfo%2Ffelvtalk_felineleukemia.org [8] mailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org [9] http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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When the parvovirus first started to hit dogs, when there were puppies in the house we would make everyone who came in spray the bottoms of their shoes with a bleach solution we had in a spray bottle on our porch. Then everyone had to take their shoes off and wash their hands thoroughly before handling the puppies. Did it work? Who knows? We had no vaccine at the time and I did have 2 puppies come down with the virus. But we felt that at least we were killing any viruses of any sort that were on the shoes. --- On Tue, 12/9/08, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re: keeping them healthy > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Cc: "Pat Kachur" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Date: Tuesday, December 9, 2008, 9:50 PM > just saw article in AARP magazine about a new germ that only > Clorox can kill it. it is popping up in hospitals all over. > said that if go to hospital, make sure all coming into your > room wash hands throughly with lots of soap and water. also > bed rails, etc should all be washed down. seems lately, we > can get sicker in hospital than at home. one lady died from > it. dorlis > Pat Kachur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > If you are concerned, you could wipe off your shoes > with some type of "germ > > killer" before you come in the house. > > > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Lisa Borden" > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > To: > > Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:32 AM > > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question re: keeping them healthy > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am at work and I just thought of something. I > am a nurse and come > > > in contact with "human" bugs all the > time. Is it logical for me to > > > think that I should NOT let ANY of my cats come > in contact with my > > > clothes or shoes when I come home? Or are the > human bugs not a risk > > > for them. > > > > > > They are usually afraid of my white clothes > anyway (cats are so > > > funny), but it's my shoes I am more concerned > with. > > > ___ > > > Felvtalk mailing list > > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > > > > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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just saw article in AARP magazine about a new germ that only Clorox can kill it. it is popping up in hospitals all over. said that if go to hospital, make sure all coming into your room wash hands throughly with lots of soap and water. also bed rails, etc should all be washed down. seems lately, we can get sicker in hospital than at home. one lady died from it. dorlis Pat Kachur <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If you are concerned, you could wipe off your shoes with some type of "germ > killer" before you come in the house. > > > - Original Message - > From: "Lisa Borden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: > Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:32 AM > Subject: [Felvtalk] Question re: keeping them healthy > > > > > > > > I am at work and I just thought of something. I am a nurse and come > > in contact with "human" bugs all the time. Is it logical for me to > > think that I should NOT let ANY of my cats come in contact with my > > clothes or shoes when I come home? Or are the human bugs not a risk > > for them. > > > > They are usually afraid of my white clothes anyway (cats are so > > funny), but it's my shoes I am more concerned with. > > ___ > > Felvtalk mailing list > > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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If you are concerned, you could wipe off your shoes with some type of "germ killer" before you come in the house. - Original Message - From: "Lisa Borden" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 10:32 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Question re: keeping them healthy > > > I am at work and I just thought of something. I am a nurse and come > in contact with "human" bugs all the time. Is it logical for me to > think that I should NOT let ANY of my cats come in contact with my > clothes or shoes when I come home? Or are the human bugs not a risk > for them. > > They are usually afraid of my white clothes anyway (cats are so > funny), but it's my shoes I am more concerned with. > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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My shoes never come into the house...they can bring in all kinds of things. Visitors are asked to take their shoes off at the door. L -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lisa Borden Sent: Saturday, November 15, 2008 9:32 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Question re: keeping them healthy I am at work and I just thought of something. I am a nurse and come in contact with "human" bugs all the time. Is it logical for me to think that I should NOT let ANY of my cats come in contact with my clothes or shoes when I come home? Or are the human bugs not a risk for them. They are usually afraid of my white clothes anyway (cats are so funny), but it's my shoes I am more concerned with. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi wendy and Jane, My sentiments exactly regarding my precoius Junior. Should I ever be faced with this again I feel much better equiped to handle it. Sally On 7/24/08, wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi Jane, > > > > My cat was very sick, became well for another two years, and then developed > anemia and passed away. I wouldn't give anything for those 2 years, when he > was fine. > > > > :) > > Wendy > > > > > > > "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change > the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret > Meade ~~~ > > > - Original Message > From: Jane Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 11:17:00 AM > Subject: [Felvtalk] question > > Has anyone ever heard of a highly (FeLV) symptomatic cat who, with > treatment, becomes asymptomatic and then > retests negative? > > Jane > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soulmate angel), Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Jane, My cat was very sick, became well for another two years, and then developed anemia and passed away. I wouldn't give anything for those 2 years, when he was fine. :) Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Jane Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 11:17:00 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] question Has anyone ever heard of a highly (FeLV) symptomatic cat who, with treatment, becomes asymptomatic and then retests negative? Jane ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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you have to define, "highly symptomatic" cat--if a positive cat gets lymphoma, yeah, the odds are that it's a result of the FeLV infection--same with anemia, but i don't know that there is yet any way to KNOW that any symptomatolgy can be proven to be FeLV-related. and i think that it's a cop-out that vets have used, just as they've used the best-treatment-is-to-just-kill-them line for all these years to blame everything that happens to any FeLV, or FIV on the virus. so much easier than trying to actually find out what's going on. just as for the past few years, anytime a vet can't figure out what's going on, the diagnosis is FIP. so do i know cats who tested positive--on a single ELISA back when we thought that was enough--then went through a series of really bad illness yet got better with treatment, then years late when retested routinely turned out to be positive on both an ELISA and IFA? yes--a few of them, in fact. do i now think they were actually positive, as in persistently viremic? nope--i think that they were originally tested during the period close to exposure, and had we retested them correctly, they would have tested negative. instead, they just lived with positives (many of whom HAVE been tested the second time to be positive, now that we know better) for years, being cats--being healthy, getting sick, getting treated, getting better. were their symptoms FeLV-related? obviously not. do i truly believe that there are any treatments out there YET that can cause a truly positive cat to experience an opportunistic infection or immune-compromised disorder due TO the damage from the virus itself, then throw off the virus? no, i do not. i think that if there were, we'd know about it by now. if there were, there would be independent research backing up the claims, there would be peer-reviewed articles, there would be trumpets blowing. what there are, instead, i'm afraid, are companies that take great advantage of the people who want desperately to believe that there is such a treatment out there. but there are no long-term treatments for a lot of things that can happen to our companions, and in many cases, the only symptom is death (thinking of some of the heart-related conditions here)--so i'm not sure how it matters. there just aren't any guarantees for the negatives, either, and if we decide we are gonna stop loving the ones who might die some day, well MC On Mon, Jul 21, 2008 at 12:17 PM, Jane Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Has anyone ever heard of a highly (FeLV) symptomatic cat who, with > treatment, becomes asymptomatic and then > retests negative? > > Jane > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thanks both Laurie and Tonya. I was hoping for a different answer but we're grateful for no symptoms and for every good day. Thanks for responding. Jane On Jul 21, 2008, at 12:20 PM, Laurieskatz wrote: > I have not. Isabella was highly symptomatic and with treatment is > asymptomatic but still FeLV+. > Laurie > > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jane Lyons > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 11:17 AM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: [Felvtalk] question > > Has anyone ever heard of a highly (FeLV) symptomatic cat who, with > treatment, becomes asymptomatic and then > retests negative? > > Jane > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I had one who was very sick and became well and lived an additional 5 years, but she never tested negative. She also never passed the disease to anyone else. tonya Jane Lyons <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Has anyone ever heard of a highly (FeLV) symptomatic cat who, with treatment, becomes asymptomatic and then retests negative? Jane ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I have not. Isabella was highly symptomatic and with treatment is asymptomatic but still FeLV+. Laurie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jane Lyons Sent: Monday, July 21, 2008 11:17 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] question Has anyone ever heard of a highly (FeLV) symptomatic cat who, with treatment, becomes asymptomatic and then retests negative? Jane ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
