Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction - new here (LONG)

2008-12-14 Thread Sharyl
Welcome to the group Sidney.  Pancreatitis ca be a painful illness for cats but 
is treatable.  There is a new yahoo pancreatitis group that has some great 
treatment info.
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline_pancreatitis_support/
Has your vet Rx anything for pain?  Please do not give the General Metacam.  
There are other effective pain meds for cats.  
 
Eating is even more important for a sick kitty.  There is a wonderful Yahoo 
feeding group that has info on assist feeding.
http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/Feline-Assisted-Feeding/
 
Sounds like the General has found a wonderful place to 'room'.
Sharyl


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Subject: [Felvtalk] Introduction - new here (LONG)
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Saturday, December 13, 2008, 10:12 PM

I just found this list after doing a little on line reading.  I joined this 
list to learn more about the issues surrounding caring for a Feline Leukemia 
positive cat.  Here's our story:

I have never owned a cat or even been around a cat in my life and I'm
almost 
52.  Two years ago this coming spring I was in my yard working in my flowers 
and this poor scrawny cat came and climbed up in my lap.  I kept moving him and

he came moving back in my lap.  He just kept hanging around so I gave him 
milk (remember I know NOTHING about cats).  The next day he was sitting on my 
front porch so I brought him some dog food out (that's all I had as I have
always 
had dogs)  He ate it as fast as I'd give it to him.  The next day he was 
still there so I bought him catfood.  I started feeding him every day outside. 
He 
stayed.  After about 3 weeks I figured if he was going to stay I better get 
him to a vet and get him neutered.  I took him to my dog's vet who tested
him 
for Feline Leukemia and I don't know what else and said he's positive
for 
Feline Leukemia, you might as well have him put to sleep as he's gonna die
anyway.  
Well, I'd become attached to him so I said, no not gonna do that.  Go ahead

and neuter him and give him whatever vaccinations he needs and we'll go
from 
there.  I found a local vet that specializes in cats and took him there.  I 
moved him inside and there's he's been ever since. He's a huge boy
now, a sweet 
loving lap cat and  I love him with all my heart :-)

He's had some problems, a kidney infection, eye infections, and now
he's 
having some issues with what they think is pancreatitis.  He's had bouts of

vomiting, and loss of appetite.  It comes back after a day or so and he's
fine for 
several days but then it seems to come back.  I'm now waiting on the
results of 
some test that may be able to determine if it is truly pancreatitis.  All his 
other blood levels are normal.  No temp.  Today his heart rate was up but 
other than that he was normal other than he acted like his tummy hurt and he 
wouldn't eat and didn't want to be handled (both things are very unlike
him as 
he'd sit in my lap for hours usually if I'll let him)

So here we are and we're hoping to learn.  Oh, his name is General Sterling

Price, named for a cat in a John Wayne movie, True Grit (Mattie Ross: You
don't 
have any family, do you?Except Chen Lee and that lazy cat. Cogburn: 
General Price don't belong to me.Cats don't belong to nobody! He just
rooms with 
me.Course I depend on him...)

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Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction - new here (LONG)

2008-12-14 Thread Southernes
In a message dated 12/14/2008 12:19:08 AM Central Standard Time, 
maima...@duo-county.com writes:

 Love him with all your and do not fear the future.   
 Everyone who loves and is loved has a broken heart eventually and,  
 just as eventually, breaks another's heart.  Learn from him.

He's already taught me a lot.  For one thing, I now consider myself to be a 
cat and dog person!  I would NEVER have said that 2 years ago.  And I think it 
was Queen Elizabeth II who said Grief is the price we pay for love

Thanks, 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction - new here (LONG)

2008-12-14 Thread Southernes
In a message dated 12/14/2008 12:49:47 AM Central Standard Time, 
drosenfe...@wi.rr.com writes:

 In your case, if the
 pancreatitis is still going, the trick is to feed something that won't
 irritate the pancreas.  Slippery slope, but doable.
 

Do you have any suggestions as to what that might be?  

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Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction - new here (LONG)

2008-12-14 Thread Belinda Sauro
  Hi Sidney,
   Welcome, I am sorry General is feeling so poorly, pancreatitis is a 
booger to deal with, Bailey had this and it eventually turned into 
cancer and I lost him to it.  He was FeLV+ at 5 months of age and passed 
at 11 years old.  We didn't realize he had pancreatitis because he his 
blood work was fairly normal but we did suspect cancer somewhere and 
couldn't find it.  He had diarrhea and was not eating anything for 65, 
almost 6 months straight before I lost him and found the pancreatic 
cancer upon his death.

Hills prescription diet makes a food that is low in fat which is what 
you want for a cat that has pancreatitis.  It is called ID, your vet 
should be able to get it for you.  I had to eventually get a feeding 
tube put into Bailey to get enough food in to him because syringe 
feeding just wasn't working for us.  Many cats do fine with syringe 
feeding, no cat likes it to start but many will adjust and even come to 
accept it.  Bailey was not one if those, we tried it for a good month 
and he hated it the whole time, that is why I finally decided on a 
feeding tube.  Unfortunately with the cancer hiding in his body and my 
vet not being able to find it (believe me we tried, we did every test 
imaginable, but nothing ever showed us where or what kind of cancer), 
even enough food eventually wasn't enough to make him well.

It is extremely important to get General to eat, cats can get something 
called hepatic lipidosis which is basically fatty liver disease, this 
will kill them in short order is not treated, the treatment is food, 
enough of it.  An average sized adult cat needs 200 or more calories a 
day minimum, that's about a 6 oz can.  So even if you have to offer food 
every 15 minutes or put some in your finger and open General's mouth and 
put it in, do it.  I do this with Fred my CRF guy (kidney failure) if he 
won't eat when I give him his meds.  Always give food or water with 
pills, if they don't go all the way down a cats very long esophagus, 
they can dissolve in there and cause some bad damage, some cats won't 
eat if their esophagus is irritated from pills dissolving in there.  The 
main thing is make sure general is getting enough food, have your vet 
show you how to syringe feed him if you need to.  Here are some info and 
video's on how to do it:

*Click Here* cid:part1.07040401.03010103@bemikitties.com

Most important thing to remember is go slow and always go in the side of 
the mouth, you never want to shoot food or liquids straight back down a 
cats throat.

This cat has obviously gotten used to the routine and adapted very well:

*http://www.rindarealm.com/PDF/howtoforce.pdf*

Here is an article by a vet on the benefits of a feeding tube if it 
becomes a necessity.  I have had 3 cats with feeding tubes they did 
retty well, Buddie, my first tube kitty loved her tube feedings and 
actually looked forward to her feedings.

*http://www.catinfo.org/feedingtubes.htm

*Here is an article by the same vet about giving cats pills and why you 
don't want to do it without making sure they get it down all the way:

*http://www.catinfo.org/pillingcats.htm

*I hope General starts eating better on his own soon, just take things 
slow, stay calm and General will follow your lead.

-- 

Belinda
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Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction - new here (LONG)

2008-12-14 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I really don't know squat about pancreas - but with the mention of  
Slippery - I syringe Slippery Elm liquid to kitties with other types  
of digestive problems.   Supposed to be nutritious as well as  
soothing.  Like I say, don't know much about it for pancreas problems.

Gloria



On Dec 14, 2008, at 8:31 AM, souther...@aol.com wrote:

 In a message dated 12/14/2008 12:49:47 AM Central Standard Time,
 drosenfe...@wi.rr.com writes:

 In your case, if the
 pancreatitis is still going, the trick is to feed something that  
 won't
 irritate the pancreas.  Slippery slope, but doable.


 Do you have any suggestions as to what that might be?

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[Felvtalk] Introduction - new here (LONG)

2008-12-13 Thread Southernes
I just found this list after doing a little on line reading.  I joined this 
list to learn more about the issues surrounding caring for a Feline Leukemia 
positive cat.  Here's our story:

I have never owned a cat or even been around a cat in my life and I'm almost 
52.  Two years ago this coming spring I was in my yard working in my flowers 
and this poor scrawny cat came and climbed up in my lap.  I kept moving him and 
he came moving back in my lap.  He just kept hanging around so I gave him 
milk (remember I know NOTHING about cats).  The next day he was sitting on my 
front porch so I brought him some dog food out (that's all I had as I have 
always 
had dogs)  He ate it as fast as I'd give it to him.  The next day he was 
still there so I bought him catfood.  I started feeding him every day outside.  
He 
stayed.  After about 3 weeks I figured if he was going to stay I better get 
him to a vet and get him neutered.  I took him to my dog's vet who tested him 
for Feline Leukemia and I don't know what else and said he's positive for 
Feline Leukemia, you might as well have him put to sleep as he's gonna die 
anyway.  
Well, I'd become attached to him so I said, no not gonna do that.  Go ahead 
and neuter him and give him whatever vaccinations he needs and we'll go from 
there.  I found a local vet that specializes in cats and took him there.  I 
moved him inside and there's he's been ever since. He's a huge boy now, a sweet 
loving lap cat and  I love him with all my heart :-)

He's had some problems, a kidney infection, eye infections, and now he's 
having some issues with what they think is pancreatitis.  He's had bouts of 
vomiting, and loss of appetite.  It comes back after a day or so and he's fine 
for 
several days but then it seems to come back.  I'm now waiting on the results of 
some test that may be able to determine if it is truly pancreatitis.  All his 
other blood levels are normal.  No temp.  Today his heart rate was up but 
other than that he was normal other than he acted like his tummy hurt and he 
wouldn't eat and didn't want to be handled (both things are very unlike him as 
he'd sit in my lap for hours usually if I'll let him)

So here we are and we're hoping to learn.  Oh, his name is General Sterling 
Price, named for a cat in a John Wayne movie, True Grit (Mattie Ross: You don't 
have any family, do you?Except Chen Lee and that lazy cat. Cogburn: 
General Price don't belong to me.Cats don't belong to nobody! He just rooms 
with 
me.Course I depend on him...)

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Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction - new here (LONG)

2008-12-13 Thread Cougar Clan
Oh my.  A story I know well.  With both Felv+ and Felv- cats.  You  
have been hooked by an angel.  My first and only Felv+ was Dixie.  She  
was probably 3 or so years old.  After I decided to find a way to keep  
her (She apparently had lost her home and was hanging out with the  
ferals behind my mother's home.  She was supposed to be spayed then  
become my farm cat) I took her to a holistic vet my regular vets had  
referred me to with other animals.  Dr. Betty Boswell worked with the  
vets at Middletown Animal Hospital and between them and the love Dixie  
got as well as gave, she had three wonderful years and HAD  
EVERYTHING!  I urge any one with a critter who has problems to  
seek holistic services as well as regular vets.  My world is great in  
that both groups I use respect each other.  Fed the highest quality  
food you can.  Mix in ground/chopped veggies high vitamin C (Dixie  
loved baby carrots, broccoli and spinach).  Start her on Colostrum or  
Transfer Factor.  Love him with all your and do not fear the future.   
Everyone who loves and is loved has a broken heart eventually and,  
just as eventually, breaks another's heart.  Learn from him.  He came  
to you for a reason.  And hang with this group.  You found it the way  
I did and it is wonderful.  The information is great and, although it  
is sometimes conflicting, you need to read it all to find out what is  
right for you and your wonderful friend.  And give him EVERYTHING!!!


On Dec 13, 2008, at 9:12 PM, souther...@aol.com wrote:

 I just found this list after doing a little on line reading.  I  
 joined this
 list to learn more about the issues surrounding caring for a Feline  
 Leukemia
 positive cat.  Here's our story:

 I have never owned a cat or even been around a cat in my life and  
 I'm almost
 52.  Two years ago this coming spring I was in my yard working in my  
 flowers
 and this poor scrawny cat came and climbed up in my lap.  I kept  
 moving him and
 he came moving back in my lap.  He just kept hanging around so I  
 gave him
 milk (remember I know NOTHING about cats).  The next day he was  
 sitting on my
 front porch so I brought him some dog food out (that's all I had as  
 I have always
 had dogs)  He ate it as fast as I'd give it to him.  The next day he  
 was
 still there so I bought him catfood.  I started feeding him every  
 day outside.  He
 stayed.  After about 3 weeks I figured if he was going to stay I  
 better get
 him to a vet and get him neutered.  I took him to my dog's vet who  
 tested him
 for Feline Leukemia and I don't know what else and said he's  
 positive for
 Feline Leukemia, you might as well have him put to sleep as he's  
 gonna die anyway.
 Well, I'd become attached to him so I said, no not gonna do that.   
 Go ahead
 and neuter him and give him whatever vaccinations he needs and we'll  
 go from
 there.  I found a local vet that specializes in cats and took him  
 there.  I
 moved him inside and there's he's been ever since. He's a huge boy  
 now, a sweet
 loving lap cat and  I love him with all my heart :-)

 He's had some problems, a kidney infection, eye infections, and now  
 he's
 having some issues with what they think is pancreatitis.  He's had  
 bouts of
 vomiting, and loss of appetite.  It comes back after a day or so and  
 he's fine for
 several days but then it seems to come back.  I'm now waiting on the  
 results of
 some test that may be able to determine if it is truly  
 pancreatitis.  All his
 other blood levels are normal.  No temp.  Today his heart rate was  
 up but
 other than that he was normal other than he acted like his tummy  
 hurt and he
 wouldn't eat and didn't want to be handled (both things are very  
 unlike him as
 he'd sit in my lap for hours usually if I'll let him)

 So here we are and we're hoping to learn.  Oh, his name is General  
 Sterling
 Price, named for a cat in a John Wayne movie, True Grit (Mattie  
 Ross: You don't
 have any family, do you?Except Chen Lee and that lazy cat. Cogburn:
 General Price don't belong to me.Cats don't belong to nobody! He  
 just rooms with
 me.Course I depend on him...)

 Sidney and General Sterling Price


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Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction - new here (LONG)

2008-12-13 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
Sidney --

Welcome!  General Sterling Price is so lucky to have found you.  Sounds like
he knew exactly what he was doing when he crawled into your lap in your
garden!!  Just make sure he eats something every day, by whatever means
necessary.  We got our Luc through fatty liver disease caused by his not
eating (the suspected cause was pancreatitis, but it may have resolved
itself by the time we noticed that he was acting sick.  In your case, if the
pancreatitis is still going, the trick is to feed something that won't
irritate the pancreas.  Slippery slope, but doable.

Good luck to you both!!  I hope the General feels better very soon!

Diane R.

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Introduction - new here (LONG)

I just found this list after doing a little on line reading.  I joined this
list to learn more about the issues surrounding caring for a Feline Leukemia
positive cat.  Here's our story:

I have never owned a cat or even been around a cat in my life and I'm almost
52.  Two years ago this coming spring I was in my yard working in my flowers
and this poor scrawny cat came and climbed up in my lap.  I kept moving him
and he came moving back in my lap.  He just kept hanging around so I gave
him milk (remember I know NOTHING about cats).  The next day he was sitting
on my front porch so I brought him some dog food out (that's all I had as I
have always had dogs)  He ate it as fast as I'd give it to him.  The next
day he was still there so I bought him catfood.  I started feeding him every
day outside.  He stayed.  After about 3 weeks I figured if he was going to
stay I better get him to a vet and get him neutered.  I took him to my dog's
vet who tested him for Feline Leukemia and I don't know what else and said
he's positive for Feline Leukemia, you might as well have him put to sleep
as he's gonna die anyway.  
Well, I'd become attached to him so I said, no not gonna do that.  Go ahead
and neuter him and give him whatever vaccinations he needs and we'll go from
there.  I found a local vet that specializes in cats and took him there.  I
moved him inside and there's he's been ever since. He's a huge boy now, a
sweet loving lap cat and  I love him with all my heart :-)

He's had some problems, a kidney infection, eye infections, and now he's
having some issues with what they think is pancreatitis.  He's had bouts of
vomiting, and loss of appetite.  It comes back after a day or so and he's
fine for several days but then it seems to come back.  I'm now waiting on
the results of some test that may be able to determine if it is truly
pancreatitis.  All his other blood levels are normal.  No temp.  Today his
heart rate was up but other than that he was normal other than he acted like
his tummy hurt and he wouldn't eat and didn't want to be handled (both
things are very unlike him as he'd sit in my lap for hours usually if I'll
let him)

So here we are and we're hoping to learn.  Oh, his name is General Sterling
Price, named for a cat in a John Wayne movie, True Grit (Mattie Ross: You
don't 
have any family, do you?Except Chen Lee and that lazy cat. Cogburn: 
General Price don't belong to me.Cats don't belong to nobody! He just rooms
with me.Course I depend on him...)

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Re: [Felvtalk] Introduction - new here (LONG)

2008-12-13 Thread Cougar Clan
I wonder if Lysine would help with the eye infection?  I've used the  
supplement with some ferals and, at one point, with Dixie.  There are  
some nuances though.  You need to get them from others on the list.   
It has to do with the quality of the supplement.  Until you hear from  
someone wiser, wait.



 I just found this list after doing a little on line reading.  I  
 joined this
 list to learn more about the issues surrounding caring for a Feline  
 Leukemia
 positive cat.  Here's our story:

 I have never owned a cat or even been around a cat in my life and  
 I'm almost
 52.  Two years ago this coming spring I was in my yard working in my  
 flowers
 and this poor scrawny cat came and climbed up in my lap.  I kept  
 moving him
 and he came moving back in my lap.  He just kept hanging around so I  
 gave
 him milk (remember I know NOTHING about cats).  The next day he was  
 sitting
 on my front porch so I brought him some dog food out (that's all I  
 had as I
 have always had dogs)  He ate it as fast as I'd give it to him.  The  
 next
 day he was still there so I bought him catfood.  I started feeding  
 him every
 day outside.  He stayed.  After about 3 weeks I figured if he was  
 going to
 stay I better get him to a vet and get him neutered.  I took him to  
 my dog's
 vet who tested him for Feline Leukemia and I don't know what else  
 and said
 he's positive for Feline Leukemia, you might as well have him put to  
 sleep
 as he's gonna die anyway.
 Well, I'd become attached to him so I said, no not gonna do that.   
 Go ahead
 and neuter him and give him whatever vaccinations he needs and we'll  
 go from
 there.  I found a local vet that specializes in cats and took him  
 there.  I
 moved him inside and there's he's been ever since. He's a huge boy  
 now, a
 sweet loving lap cat and  I love him with all my heart :-)

 He's had some problems, a kidney infection, eye infections, and now  
 he's
 having some issues with what they think is pancreatitis.  He's had  
 bouts of
 vomiting, and loss of appetite.  It comes back after a day or so and  
 he's
 fine for several days but then it seems to come back.  I'm now  
 waiting on
 the results of some test that may be able to determine if it is truly
 pancreatitis.  All his other blood levels are normal.  No temp.   
 Today his
 heart rate was up but other than that he was normal other than he  
 acted like
 his tummy hurt and he wouldn't eat and didn't want to be handled (both
 things are very unlike him as he'd sit in my lap for hours usually  
 if I'll
 let him)

 So here we are and we're hoping to learn.  Oh, his name is General  
 Sterling
 Price, named for a cat in a John Wayne movie, True Grit (Mattie  
 Ross: You
 don't
 have any family, do you?Except Chen Lee and that lazy cat. Cogburn:
 General Price don't belong to me.Cats don't belong to nobody! He  
 just rooms
 with me.Course I depend on him...)

 Sidney and General Sterling Price


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