Re: [Felvtalk] Off Topic. Very Thin 8 year old cat
ed a thyroid profile (T-3 and T-4) and a glucose > test for diabetes. She may have the equivalent of human pernicious anemia > or chronic anemia so a test for her hemoglobin level should also be done. > These are things that various cats I have had living with me over the years > developed as they aged.Hope it helps. You could also add NeutroVed to her > food. It's a liquid iron and vitamin compound for cats. > > > Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty > neighbors too! > > > ---------- > *From:* MaiMaiPG > *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > *Sent:* Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:44 AM > *Subject:* [Felvtalk] Off Topic. Very Thin 8 year old cat > > > I realize this is not a FELV+ question but this group has such wide > experience and helped so much with Dixie, I just have to try. > > I have a very thin 8 year old cat who is almost impossible to vet. She > has lived in Mom's garage since she was a day old. Recently she has gotten > thin and appears cold. I have heat lamps, a cat heating pad, Snuggle Safes > and rice bags for her on top of rubber maid totes. I can't be sure what > she is eating but there is always food available and I've added Pet Tinic > to the mix. She has two cats who hang out with her. They have all been > neutered/spayed. Tommy has had weight/cold issues for at least 8 weeks. > She acts ok most of the time but there have been days that she looked like > she was ready to leave this world. I am trying chcken livers and anything > else I canthink of for iron. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Off Topic. Very Thin 8 year old cat
A couple of suggestions for food. .Gerber Stage 2 Baby Food-ham, turkey, beef (has no onion in it) .Fancy Feast original chicken-most cats think its chocolate cake .Warm Kentucky Fried Chicken (without bones)-trappers swear by it. .Don't know where you are but White Rose regular tuna cat food (not the stew)-its cheap dark meat tuna and the ferals in my old colony loved it. .ANYTHING else you can get in her-yogurt, tuna water, cold cuts, and on and on. I know what you mean about treating a feral-don't know if they use a box but if you can get a urine sample out of that, you could get a lot of info from that. Also, think about getting some of her poop for fecal-could be parasite. Another thought might be if you have a cooperative vet to simply try her on some thyroid meds for a bit and see if it helps. Getting a cat to take pills is tricky, I know. I've had some success with small pieces of pill pockets. For my old colony, I've used liverwurst-that's another food they seem to run for. Good for you for trying with these guys. I know it can't be easy.. From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 2:49 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Off Topic. Very Thin 8 year old cat I really appreciate the information about getting her to the vets and would if it was an option. I have live traps etc. Once this crew is trapped, they are rarely trapped again. She can't be handled nor can the others. It is my hope to trap them one final time and relocate them to my farm. They live at my Mom's and she died. Her house will be sold. I have examined all the trap/vet possibilities. Honest. Consider that there will be no way of treating her for diabetes or even thyroid issues over any period of time unless she is imprisoned at the vets for the rest of her life. I will check the Neutro Ved for her food. Sometimes I can get supplements into her food and other times I can't. These guys are very wild. Think of this in terms of treating a possum or coon that lives near you. And yes, she is very loved but she is very wild too. On Mar 20, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Lee Evans wrote: Could be overactive thyroid. Especially if she's eating normally or more than normally and is getting thinner by the minute. That could also account for the fact that she is cold. Is her fur dull looking and dry? If she can be trapped, she would need a thyroid profile (T-3 and T-4) and a glucose test for diabetes. She may have the equivalent of human pernicious anemia or chronic anemia so a test for her hemoglobin level should also be done. These are things that various cats I have had living with me over the years developed as they aged.Hope it helps. You could also add NeutroVed to her food. It's a liquid iron and vitamin compound for cats. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! _ From: MaiMaiPG To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:44 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Off Topic. Very Thin 8 year old cat I realize this is not a FELV+ question but this group has such wide experience and helped so much with Dixie, I just have to try. I have a very thin 8 year old cat who is almost impossible to vet. She has lived in Mom's garage since she was a day old. Recently she has gotten thin and appears cold. I have heat lamps, a cat heating pad, Snuggle Safes and rice bags for her on top of rubber maid totes. I can't be sure what she is eating but there is always food available and I've added Pet Tinic to the mix. She has two cats who hang out with her. They have all been neutered/spayed. Tommy has had weight/cold issues for at least 8 weeks. She acts ok most of the time but there have been days that she looked like she was ready to leave this world. I am trying chcken livers and anything else I canthink of for iron. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Off Topic. Very Thin 8 year old cat
I really appreciate the information about getting her to the vets and would if it was an option. I have live traps etc. Once this crew is trapped, they are rarely trapped again. She can't be handled nor can the others. It is my hope to trap them one final time and relocate them to my farm. They live at my Mom's and she died. Her house will be sold. I have examined all the trap/vet possibilities. Honest. Consider that there will be no way of treating her for diabetes or even thyroid issues over any period of time unless she is imprisoned at the vets for the rest of her life. I will check the Neutro Ved for her food. Sometimes I can get supplements into her food and other times I can't. These guys are very wild. Think of this in terms of treating a possum or coon that lives near you. And yes, she is very loved but she is very wild too. On Mar 20, 2013, at 12:00 PM, Lee Evans wrote: Could be overactive thyroid. Especially if she's eating normally or more than normally and is getting thinner by the minute. That could also account for the fact that she is cold. Is her fur dull looking and dry? If she can be trapped, she would need a thyroid profile (T-3 and T-4) and a glucose test for diabetes. She may have the equivalent of human pernicious anemia or chronic anemia so a test for her hemoglobin level should also be done. These are things that various cats I have had living with me over the years developed as they aged.Hope it helps. You could also add NeutroVed to her food. It's a liquid iron and vitamin compound for cats. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: MaiMaiPG To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:44 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Off Topic. Very Thin 8 year old cat I realize this is not a FELV+ question but this group has such wide experience and helped so much with Dixie, I just have to try. I have a very thin 8 year old cat who is almost impossible to vet. She has lived in Mom's garage since she was a day old. Recently she has gotten thin and appears cold. I have heat lamps, a cat heating pad, Snuggle Safes and rice bags for her on top of rubber maid totes. I can't be sure what she is eating but there is always food available and I've added Pet Tinic to the mix. She has two cats who hang out with her. They have all been neutered/spayed. Tommy has had weight/cold issues for at least 8 weeks. She acts ok most of the time but there have been days that she looked like she was ready to leave this world. I am trying chcken livers and anything else I canthink of for iron. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Off Topic. Very Thin 8 year old cat
I found this page a few days ago, and it seems to offer good advice: http://www.felinecrf.org/persuading_cat_to_eat.htm I occasionally put a little salt on Ember's food. I don't know if it helps much, but it's supposed to stimulate appetite. On Wed, Mar 20, 2013, at 11:44 AM, MaiMaiPG wrote: > > I realize this is not a FELV+ question but this group has such wide > experience and helped so much with Dixie, I just have to try. > > I have a very thin 8 year old cat who is almost impossible to vet. > She has lived in Mom's garage since she was a day old. Recently she > has gotten thin and appears cold. I have heat lamps, a cat heating > pad, Snuggle Safes and rice bags for her on top of rubber maid totes. > I can't be sure what she is eating but there is always food available > and I've added Pet Tinic to the mix. She has two cats who hang out > with her. They have all been neutered/spayed. Tommy has had weight/ > cold issues for at least 8 weeks. She acts ok most of the time but > there have been days that she looked like she was ready to leave this > world. I am trying chcken livers and anything else I canthink of for > iron. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Off Topic. Very Thin 8 year old cat
I hate to tell you this but you need to get her to a vet. She should have a full blood panel, including checking thyroid values (T-4). This could be so many things. You need blood work to be able to properly diagnose and treat this. I understand how hard it is to get a feral cat to the vet. It took me a year to catch a semi-feral boy in my house and get him to the vet. (He had severe stomatitis, just a horrible infection in his mouth. But he is so much better now.) 1. Do you have a vet who is good with hard to handle cats? That's the first thing you need. 2. Can you touch this cat at all? Will she let you pet her when you bring food? If she is at all touchable you need to get her used to neck rubs. And leave an open carrier in her living space, preferably with towels and blankets inside. You want her to get used to all of this because there will come a day when that neck rub turns into a scruff and stuff into the carrier. (If the ca is absolutely unapproachable then you need to look into using a drop trap.) This is a really difficult situation. I've been there. But for the sake of the cat you need to figure it out. Her life may depend on it. Oh, if you do the scruff and stuff, make sure you are fully committed. Don't let go. It will make it so much harder the next time. Practice with a stuffed animal or something so you get the motions down pat. Because when you have the real cat by the scruff of the neck and are tring to dump her in the carrier, you cannot let go till she is in the carrier. When scruffing and stuffing a cat, you want the carrier up on end and the carrier door open. You actually do a little flick of the wrist and let the cat's body weight carry her to the bottom of the carrier. And you shut that carrier door real fast and keep it closed till you are in a room at the vet's office. The vet may want to be ready with a sedative too. From: MaiMaiPG To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 9:44 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Off Topic. Very Thin 8 year old cat I realize this is not a FELV+ question but this group has such wide experience and helped so much with Dixie, I just have to try. I have a very thin 8 year old cat who is almost impossible to vet. She has lived in Mom's garage since she was a day old. Recently she has gotten thin and appears cold. I have heat lamps, a cat heating pad, Snuggle Safes and rice bags for her on top of rubber maid totes. I can't be sure what she is eating but there is always food available and I've added Pet Tinic to the mix. She has two cats who hang out with her. They have all been neutered/spayed. Tommy has had weight/cold issues for at least 8 weeks. She acts ok most of the time but there have been days that she looked like she was ready to leave this world. I am trying chcken livers and anything else I canthink of for iron. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Off Topic. Very Thin 8 year old cat
Could be overactive thyroid. Especially if she's eating normally or more than normally and is getting thinner by the minute. That could also account for the fact that she is cold. Is her fur dull looking and dry? If she can be trapped, she would need a thyroid profile (T-3 and T-4) and a glucose test for diabetes. She may have the equivalent of human pernicious anemia or chronic anemia so a test for her hemoglobin level should also be done. These are things that various cats I have had living with me over the years developed as they aged.Hope it helps. You could also add NeutroVed to her food. It's a liquid iron and vitamin compound for cats. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! > > From: MaiMaiPG >To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 11:44 AM >Subject: [Felvtalk] Off Topic. Very Thin 8 year old cat > > >I realize this is not a FELV+ question but this group has such wide experience >and helped so much with Dixie, I just have to try. > >I have a very thin 8 year old cat who is almost impossible to vet. She has >lived in Mom's garage since she was a day old. Recently she has gotten thin >and appears cold. I have heat lamps, a cat heating pad, Snuggle Safes and >rice bags for her on top of rubber maid totes. I can't be sure what she is >eating but there is always food available and I've added Pet Tinic to the mix. >She has two cats who hang out with her. They have all been neutered/spayed. >Tommy has had weight/cold issues for at least 8 weeks. She acts ok most of >the time but there have been days that she looked like she was ready to leave >this world. I am trying chcken livers and anything else I canthink of for >iron. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > >___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Off Topic. Very Thin 8 year old cat
Only a vet can diagnose. Anemia can cause cold. Are her gums pale? Anemia can be caused by many things, including Hemobartonella, which one of my non-FeLV cats had. If it were that, she would die without meds. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: MaiMaiPG To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2013 12:44 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Off Topic. Very Thin 8 year old cat I realize this is not a FELV+ question but this group has such wide experience and helped so much with Dixie, I just have to try. I have a very thin 8 year old cat who is almost impossible to vet. She has lived in Mom's garage since she was a day old. Recently she has gotten thin and appears cold. I have heat lamps, a cat heating pad, Snuggle Safes and rice bags for her on top of rubber maid totes. I can't be sure what she is eating but there is always food available and I've added Pet Tinic to the mix. She has two cats who hang out with her. They have all been neutered/spayed. Tommy has had weight/ cold issues for at least 8 weeks. She acts ok most of the time but there have been days that she looked like she was ready to leave this world. I am trying chcken livers and anything else I canthink of for iron. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Off Topic. Very Thin 8 year old cat
I realize this is not a FELV+ question but this group has such wide experience and helped so much with Dixie, I just have to try. I have a very thin 8 year old cat who is almost impossible to vet. She has lived in Mom's garage since she was a day old. Recently she has gotten thin and appears cold. I have heat lamps, a cat heating pad, Snuggle Safes and rice bags for her on top of rubber maid totes. I can't be sure what she is eating but there is always food available and I've added Pet Tinic to the mix. She has two cats who hang out with her. They have all been neutered/spayed. Tommy has had weight/ cold issues for at least 8 weeks. She acts ok most of the time but there have been days that she looked like she was ready to leave this world. I am trying chcken livers and anything else I canthink of for iron. Any ideas would be greatly appreciated. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
