Re: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated

2011-05-30 Thread molveywda
Oh, just read this email.  Yes, if the IFA is negative she could have the virus 
and put it into dormancy, like I mentioned in the other email.  And it is 
possible that the virus can re-activate.  But, who knows.  And not to be 
negative, but by then your other kitties may have gone on to Heaven so you 
wouldn't have to worry about them catching it at that point.  It's so 
frustrating.  Matter of fact, unless your other kitties have had a bone marrow 
test, they could also have the virus.  That's the really scary thing - that 
stupid virus could be in lots of our cats and we would never know.  Anyway, 
back to Amber, yes it could re-activate.  But it's hard to make decisions on 
possibilities.  Like I said, such a frustrating disease.

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From: "Jannes Taylor" 
Date: Mon, May 30, 2011 7:53 am
Subject: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated
To: 

Natalie, I have been wondering so many things. In the beginning I doubted that
Amber would be able to fight off the virus in the pitiful condition she was in.
I was surprised when she tested negative!
I also read that sometimes they can test negative by IFA but the viurs could
still be just laying wait ready to reappear in the future. Sometimes I think you
can read too much. Who knows what to believe!!
Amber is so full of enery and looks really good. She still weights only 6..8 
lbs.
It is had to believe she has only gained an eight of a lb in three months but
her ribs don't show anymore. I also find it puzzling that she has not come in
heat yet. She may have already been spayed?? The vet guesses her to be approx 1
year old.
I know some folks mix their cats and don't worry but I can't help being
concerned about it.
 Jannes





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Sent: Sun, May 29, 2011 4:19:23 PM
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I wonder if extreme stress, bad diet, etc. can cause false positives.
In the first year (1992)that I trapped cats for our rescue group, an adult
cat tested positive for FeLV.  Three months later, she was negative!

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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I am so releived she tested negative. I think maybe I have read too
much sometimes. All the upstairs cats have been vaccinated against felv so
that
helps even though I know it is not 100&. I am going to think about this
today
and view all the opinions. Thanks!
 Jannes




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Re: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated

2011-05-30 Thread molveywda
I've heard of the ELISA occasionally giving a false negative, but it is rare 
and not nearly as likely as getting a false positive.  It's more likely that 
the first ELISA test was wrong and gave you a false positive and this second 
ELISA test showing the negative is correct.  But it might mean she just 
extinguished the virus in the time between the two tests.

From what I understand, if the ELISA is negative then the IFA has to be 
negative.  That's assuming both test were done correctly.  But, since there is 
room for error I think either getting a second ELISA test or an IFA test will 
make you feel a lot better so it is probably worth the money to get one of 
those test done as a confirmation.  

Of course, assuming the first ELISA test which gave you a positive was correct, 
then she may still have the virus but put it into dormancy.  If so, then she 
can't pass it to your cats because it is in the bone marrow only and not in the 
bloodstream or saliva so they will still be safe.  If it's dormant you will not 
know because both the ELISA and the IFA will be negative.  A bone marrow test 
is the only way to know if it is dormant.

If it were me I think I'd have either a second ELISA or an IFA test just to 
have additional confirmation and after that don't worry about it and let her 
meet the rest of the family. A second ELISA test would be good enough but since 
the IFA test doesn't cost that much more than the ELISA you might feel better 
doing that one.  Either way I bet they will both be negative.

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From: "Jannes Taylor" 
Date: Mon, May 30, 2011 7:53 am
Subject: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated
To: 

Natalie, I have been wondering so many things. In the beginning I doubted that
Amber would be able to fight off the virus in the pitiful condition she was in.
I was surprised when she tested negative!
I also read that sometimes they can test negative by IFA but the viurs could
still be just laying wait ready to reappear in the future. Sometimes I think you
can read too much. Who knows what to believe!!
Amber is so full of enery and looks really good. She still weights only 6..8 
lbs.
It is had to believe she has only gained an eight of a lb in three months but
her ribs don't show anymore. I also find it puzzling that she has not come in
heat yet. She may have already been spayed?? The vet guesses her to be approx 1
year old.
I know some folks mix their cats and don't worry but I can't help being
concerned about it.
 Jannes





From: Natalie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sun, May 29, 2011 4:19:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated

I wonder if extreme stress, bad diet, etc. can cause false positives.
In the first year (1992)that I trapped cats for our rescue group, an adult
cat tested positive for FeLV.  Three months later, she was negative!

-Original Message-
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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 12:06 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated

I am so releived she tested negative. I think maybe I have read too
much sometimes. All the upstairs cats have been vaccinated against felv so
that
helps even though I know it is not 100&. I am going to think about this
today
and view all the opinions. Thanks!
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Re: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated

2011-05-30 Thread Jannes Taylor
Natalie, I have been wondering so many things. In the beginning I doubted that 
Amber would be able to fight off the virus in the pitiful condition she was in. 
I was surprised when she tested negative!
I also read that sometimes they can test negative by IFA but the viurs could 
still be just laying wait ready to reappear in the future. Sometimes I think 
you 
can read too much. Who knows what to believe!!
Amber is so full of enery and looks really good. She still weights only 6.8 
lbs. 
It is had to believe she has only gained an eight of a lb in three months but 
her ribs don't show anymore. I also find it puzzling that she has not come in 
heat yet. She may have already been spayed?? The vet guesses her to be approx 1 
year old.
I know some folks mix their cats and don't worry but I can't help being 
concerned about it.
 Jannes 





From: Natalie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sun, May 29, 2011 4:19:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated

I wonder if extreme stress, bad diet, etc. can cause false positives.
In the first year (1992)that I trapped cats for our rescue group, an adult
cat tested positive for FeLV.  Three months later, she was negative!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 12:06 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated

I am so releived she tested negative. I think maybe I have read too 
much sometimes. All the upstairs cats have been vaccinated against felv so
that 
helps even though I know it is not 100&. I am going to think about this
today 
and view all the opinions. Thanks!
 Jannes 





From: Cindy McHugh 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sat, May 28, 2011 10:33:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated

Wow, that's great news that she's tested negative. I'm so happy for you.

For my own peace of mind, I would insist on an IFA test before integrating
her 
into my household. If your vet won't do it, there's probably another vet
around 
who will.

Cindy

- Original Message - From: "Jannes Taylor" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 10:59 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated


Hello to all,
Three months ago I rescued a cat that I found out in the field next to our
house
starving to death and did not energy to even purr or play. She tested
positive
for felv. Three months later this kitty who I named Amber is like a
different
cat. She is rotten, well fed, and full of energy. As some of you my recall,
my
husband built her her own palace to live in which is in our basement. I have
three healthy cats upstaris and am not willinig to risk exposing them to a
felv
cat.

I took Amber back to the vet this morning and the Elisa test was negative! I
asked the vet about getting her the IFA test and he did not even know what
it
was! I had printed off information re the test and he did read it. However,
he
thinks she does not need the IFA test since she tested negative.
Should I go ahead and bring Amber upstaris with the rest of the gang or
still
insist on the IFA test??
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Re: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated

2011-05-29 Thread Natalie
I wonder if extreme stress, bad diet, etc. can cause false positives.
In the first year (1992)that I trapped cats for our rescue group, an adult
cat tested positive for FeLV.  Three months later, she was negative!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 12:06 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated

I am so releived she tested negative. I think maybe I have read too 
much sometimes. All the upstairs cats have been vaccinated against felv so
that 
helps even though I know it is not 100&. I am going to think about this
today 
and view all the opinions. Thanks!
 Jannes 





From: Cindy McHugh 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sat, May 28, 2011 10:33:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated

Wow, that's great news that she's tested negative. I'm so happy for you.

For my own peace of mind, I would insist on an IFA test before integrating
her 
into my household. If your vet won't do it, there's probably another vet
around 
who will.

Cindy

- Original Message - From: "Jannes Taylor" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 10:59 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated


Hello to all,
Three months ago I rescued a cat that I found out in the field next to our
house
starving to death and did not energy to even purr or play. She tested
positive
for felv. Three months later this kitty who I named Amber is like a
different
cat. She is rotten, well fed, and full of energy. As some of you my recall,
my
husband built her her own palace to live in which is in our basement. I have
three healthy cats upstaris and am not willinig to risk exposing them to a
felv
cat.

I took Amber back to the vet this morning and the Elisa test was negative! I
asked the vet about getting her the IFA test and he did not even know what
it
was! I had printed off information re the test and he did read it. However,
he
thinks she does not need the IFA test since she tested negative.
Should I go ahead and bring Amber upstaris with the rest of the gang or
still
insist on the IFA test??
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Re: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated

2011-05-28 Thread Lynda Wilson
Definitely get the IFA test. My vet ordered one for my kitty incase he may 
need it, so it's not impossible for your vet not to get one for you. I know 
if it were me and did not get the IFA, and the cat showed symptoms later, I 
would never forgive myself.


Lynda
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From: "Jannes Taylor" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 9:59 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated


Hello to all,
Three months ago I rescued a cat that I found out in the field next to our 
house
starving to death and did not energy to even purr or play. She tested 
positive
for felv. Three months later this kitty who I named Amber is like a 
different
cat. She is rotten, well fed, and full of energy. As some of you my recall, 
my

husband built her her own palace to live in which is in our basement. I have
three healthy cats upstaris and am not willinig to risk exposing them to a 
felv

cat.

I took Amber back to the vet this morning and the Elisa test was negative! I
asked the vet about getting her the IFA test and he did not even know what 
it
was! I had printed off information re the test and he did read it. However, 
he

thinks she does not need the IFA test since she tested negative.
Should I go ahead and bring Amber upstaris with the rest of the gang or 
still

insist on the IFA test??
Jannes
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Re: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated

2011-05-28 Thread MaiMaiPG
I suspect you need another vet who is more into cat issues.  Sometimes  
it is nice to have more than one vet---different takes, different  
experiences.

On May 28, 2011, at 12:34 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:


Congratulations on Amber's recovery and well-being!
When I was in this situation with my mom's cat, Lucky, I waited  
until the
IFA was done, just for peace of mind.  I think it took about a week  
for them

to get the result.
~B.

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Taylor

Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 7:59 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated

Hello to all,
Three months ago I rescued a cat that I found out in the field next  
to our
house starving to death and did not energy to even purr or play. She  
tested
positive for felv. Three months later this kitty who I named Amber  
is like a
different cat. She is rotten, well fed, and full of energy. As some  
of you
my recall, my husband built her her own palace to live in which is  
in our
basement. I have three healthy cats upstaris and am not willinig to  
risk

exposing them to a felv cat.

I took Amber back to the vet this morning and the Elisa test was  
negative! I
asked the vet about getting her the IFA test and he did not even  
know what

it was! I had printed off information re the test and he did read it.
However, he thinks she does not need the IFA test since she tested  
negative.

Should I go ahead and bring Amber upstaris with the rest of the gang
or still insist on the IFA test??
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Re: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated

2011-05-28 Thread Jannes Taylor
Did the IFA turn out to be positive?
 Jannes 





From: Bonnie Hogue 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sat, May 28, 2011 12:34:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated

Congratulations on Amber's recovery and well-being!
When I was in this situation with my mom's cat, Lucky, I waited until the
IFA was done, just for peace of mind.  I think it took about a week for them
to get the result.
~B.

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Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 7:59 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated

Hello to all,
Three months ago I rescued a cat that I found out in the field next to our
house starving to death and did not energy to even purr or play. She tested
positive for felv. Three months later this kitty who I named Amber is like a
different cat. She is rotten, well fed, and full of energy. As some of you
my recall, my husband built her her own palace to live in which is in our
basement. I have three healthy cats upstaris and am not willinig to risk
exposing them to a felv cat. 

I took Amber back to the vet this morning and the Elisa test was negative! I
asked the vet about getting her the IFA test and he did not even know what
it was! I had printed off information re the test and he did read it.
However, he thinks she does not need the IFA test since she tested negative.
Should I go ahead and bring Amber upstaris with the rest of the gang
or still insist on the IFA test??
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Re: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated

2011-05-28 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Congratulations on Amber's recovery and well-being!
When I was in this situation with my mom's cat, Lucky, I waited until the
IFA was done, just for peace of mind.  I think it took about a week for them
to get the result.
~B.

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 7:59 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated

Hello to all,
Three months ago I rescued a cat that I found out in the field next to our
house starving to death and did not energy to even purr or play. She tested
positive for felv. Three months later this kitty who I named Amber is like a
different cat. She is rotten, well fed, and full of energy. As some of you
my recall, my husband built her her own palace to live in which is in our
basement. I have three healthy cats upstaris and am not willinig to risk
exposing them to a felv cat. 

I took Amber back to the vet this morning and the Elisa test was negative! I
asked the vet about getting her the IFA test and he did not even know what
it was! I had printed off information re the test and he did read it.
However, he thinks she does not need the IFA test since she tested negative.
Should I go ahead and bring Amber upstaris with the rest of the gang
or still insist on the IFA test??
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2011-05-28 Thread Jannes Taylor
I am so releived she tested negative. I think maybe I have read too 
much sometimes. All the upstairs cats have been vaccinated against felv so that 
helps even though I know it is not 100&. I am going to think about this today 
and view all the opinions. Thanks!
 Jannes 





From: Cindy McHugh 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sat, May 28, 2011 10:33:15 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated

Wow, that's great news that she's tested negative. I'm so happy for you.

For my own peace of mind, I would insist on an IFA test before integrating her 
into my household. If your vet won't do it, there's probably another vet around 
who will.

Cindy

- Original Message - From: "Jannes Taylor" 
To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 10:59 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated


Hello to all,
Three months ago I rescued a cat that I found out in the field next to our house
starving to death and did not energy to even purr or play. She tested positive
for felv. Three months later this kitty who I named Amber is like a different
cat. She is rotten, well fed, and full of energy. As some of you my recall, my
husband built her her own palace to live in which is in our basement. I have
three healthy cats upstaris and am not willinig to risk exposing them to a felv
cat.

I took Amber back to the vet this morning and the Elisa test was negative! I
asked the vet about getting her the IFA test and he did not even know what it
was! I had printed off information re the test and he did read it. However, he
thinks she does not need the IFA test since she tested negative.
Should I go ahead and bring Amber upstaris with the rest of the gang or still
insist on the IFA test??
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2011-05-28 Thread Cindy McHugh

Wow, that's great news that she's tested negative. I'm so happy for you.

For my own peace of mind, I would insist on an IFA test before integrating 
her into my household. If your vet won't do it, there's probably another vet 
around who will.


Cindy

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From: "Jannes Taylor" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 10:59 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated


Hello to all,
Three months ago I rescued a cat that I found out in the field next to our 
house
starving to death and did not energy to even purr or play. She tested 
positive
for felv. Three months later this kitty who I named Amber is like a 
different
cat. She is rotten, well fed, and full of energy. As some of you my recall, 
my

husband built her her own palace to live in which is in our basement. I have
three healthy cats upstaris and am not willinig to risk exposing them to a 
felv

cat.

I took Amber back to the vet this morning and the Elisa test was negative! I
asked the vet about getting her the IFA test and he did not even know what 
it
was! I had printed off information re the test and he did read it. However, 
he

thinks she does not need the IFA test since she tested negative.
Should I go ahead and bring Amber upstaris with the rest of the gang or 
still

insist on the IFA test??
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2011-05-28 Thread dlgegg
If you are worried about exposing your negative cats to FELV, then I would 
insist on the IFA, then you would not be second guessing yourself all the time 
and still have that worry in the back of your mind.
 Jannes Taylor  wrote: 
> Hello to all,
> Three months ago I rescued a cat that I found out in the field next to our 
> house 
> starving to death and did not energy to even purr or play. She tested 
> positive 
> for felv. Three months later this kitty who I named Amber is like a different 
> cat. She is rotten, well fed, and full of energy. As some of you my recall, 
> my 
> husband built her her own palace to live in which is in our basement. I have 
> three healthy cats upstaris and am not willinig to risk exposing them to a 
> felv 
> cat. 
> 
> I took Amber back to the vet this morning and the Elisa test was negative! I 
> asked the vet about getting her the IFA test and he did not even know what it 
> was! I had printed off information re the test and he did read it. However, 
> he 
> thinks she does not need the IFA test since she tested negative.
> Should I go ahead and bring Amber upstaris with the rest of the gang or still 
> insist on the IFA test??
>  Jannes 
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[Felvtalk] Your Opinion would be GREATLY appreciated

2011-05-28 Thread Jannes Taylor
Hello to all,
Three months ago I rescued a cat that I found out in the field next to our 
house 
starving to death and did not energy to even purr or play. She tested positive 
for felv. Three months later this kitty who I named Amber is like a different 
cat. She is rotten, well fed, and full of energy. As some of you my recall, my 
husband built her her own palace to live in which is in our basement. I have 
three healthy cats upstaris and am not willinig to risk exposing them to a felv 
cat. 

I took Amber back to the vet this morning and the Elisa test was negative! I 
asked the vet about getting her the IFA test and he did not even know what it 
was! I had printed off information re the test and he did read it. However, he 
thinks she does not need the IFA test since she tested negative.
Should I go ahead and bring Amber upstaris with the rest of the gang or still 
insist on the IFA test??
 Jannes 
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