Re: [Felvtalk] mssr. phelps
If you do the salve from the 2053 group, it makes no difference what the cat was or is eating! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 7:43 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] mssr. phelps QUESTION: If a cat has been on Blue Buffalo canned/dry mixed plus a mouse or 2 here and there, could it thn go thru the healing with the salve? I am trying to switch my guys to raw but not with great results. I have a neighbor who raises rabbits for meat and he does not feed them with anything contaning antibiotics, etc. He gave me a grown rabbit and thougt they would eat it as is, but it is larger than my cats and they seemed afraid of it. I have it in the freezer, but I am going to have to get sharper knives to cut it up. Any hints for getting them started? They will eat anything they catch, just not packaged frozen. Could I cook it just a bit to warm it up to body temperature? pandie...@aol.com wrote: > > this is the email i rec'd: > > Pandie Ann, > My feeling is that at this point you cannot use the Black Salve: > 1) He has been eating only dry food; therefore, it may be difficult to > switch him to raw meat, and to get him to eat the raw meat with the essential > supplements, all of which he needs to do the necessary repairing and healing > after applying the Black Salve. > 2) He needs time to build up his body's strength to go through the > ordeal of healing. And he doesn't have that time. > 3) It is not clear from your email whether he is the FIV/FELV cat or you > are speaking in general about other cats you have. If he is FIV/FELV, for > sure he will not have the Vital Life Force to heal once the Black Salve goes > after the cancer cells. > 4) He has had a biopsy; therefore, there is a great possibility the > cancer has metastasized. > 5) The growth/lump is so near to his trachea, that as it swells...as > part of the healing...after applying the Black Salve, it might close off his > airway. > My opinion is that I would not put him through the trauma of surgically > removing the growth either. He won't live any longer...in fact, you may > shorten his life, by his going through that trauma of surgery...and surgery > will not stop the cancer from going to another area...in fact, the trauma of > the surgery will cause it to spread even faster because his immune system > will be so weakened by the surgery. > I wish I had a better prognosis, but I do not. > Pat > Founder/Society for Animal Homeopathy > 30 years experience in animal nutrition > 25 years experience in classical homeopathy > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Natalie > To: felvtalk > Sent: Tue, Mar 13, 2012 4:05 pm > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] mssr. phelps > > > > No, I didn’t mean the neoplasene when I wrote about a black salve – yes, > extremely painful. This salve is different., not as painful, depending on > the cancer. Natalie > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:38 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] mssr. phelps > > > > I don't know if this will help the sarcoma, but am guessing they were > referring to what is called Black Salve Neoplasene. > > > > There is a yahoo group for Neoplasene use in pets, and also a very wonderful > Feline Cancer group. I would definitely suggest the Feline Cancer group > regardless of your interest in the Neoplasene, perhaps someone has experience > with a similar cancer. And I would suggest researching the salve thoroughly, > I don't know much about it but sounds like it can be extremely painful in > some cases. > > > > http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-cancer/ > > http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/TheBlackSalveNeoplaseneCancerForum/ > > > > Good luck to Ms Phelps and to you! > > > > Heather > > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:43 PM, wrote: > > I have mss phelps who is FIV/FELV. All of a sudden,he got a huge lump on > the side of his neck. I immed took him to vet where they did a biopsy. This > a.m. I called and they said it is sarcoma. someone told me about some black > paste I can use on it. can anyone in this group steer me in the right > direction. thank you. > > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinf
Re: [Felvtalk] mssr. phelps
QUESTION: If a cat has been on Blue Buffalo canned/dry mixed plus a mouse or 2 here and there, could it thn go thru the healing with the salve? I am trying to switch my guys to raw but not with great results. I have a neighbor who raises rabbits for meat and he does not feed them with anything contaning antibiotics, etc. He gave me a grown rabbit and thougt they would eat it as is, but it is larger than my cats and they seemed afraid of it. I have it in the freezer, but I am going to have to get sharper knives to cut it up. Any hints for getting them started? They will eat anything they catch, just not packaged frozen. Could I cook it just a bit to warm it up to body temperature? pandie...@aol.com wrote: > > this is the email i rec'd: > > Pandie Ann, > My feeling is that at this point you cannot use the Black Salve: > 1) He has been eating only dry food; therefore, it may be difficult to > switch him to raw meat, and to get him to eat the raw meat with the essential > supplements, all of which he needs to do the necessary repairing and healing > after applying the Black Salve. > 2) He needs time to build up his body's strength to go through the > ordeal of healing. And he doesn't have that time. > 3) It is not clear from your email whether he is the FIV/FELV cat or you > are speaking in general about other cats you have. If he is FIV/FELV, for > sure he will not have the Vital Life Force to heal once the Black Salve goes > after the cancer cells. > 4) He has had a biopsy; therefore, there is a great possibility the > cancer has metastasized. > 5) The growth/lump is so near to his trachea, that as it swells...as > part of the healing...after applying the Black Salve, it might close off his > airway. > My opinion is that I would not put him through the trauma of surgically > removing the growth either. He won't live any longer...in fact, you may > shorten his life, by his going through that trauma of surgery...and surgery > will not stop the cancer from going to another area...in fact, the trauma of > the surgery will cause it to spread even faster because his immune system > will be so weakened by the surgery. > I wish I had a better prognosis, but I do not. > Pat > Founder/Society for Animal Homeopathy > 30 years experience in animal nutrition > 25 years experience in classical homeopathy > > > > > -Original Message- > From: Natalie > To: felvtalk > Sent: Tue, Mar 13, 2012 4:05 pm > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] mssr. phelps > > > > No, I didn’t mean the neoplasene when I wrote about a black salve – yes, > extremely painful. This salve is different., not as painful, depending on > the cancer. Natalie > > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather > Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:38 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] mssr. phelps > > > > I don't know if this will help the sarcoma, but am guessing they were > referring to what is called Black Salve Neoplasene. > > > > There is a yahoo group for Neoplasene use in pets, and also a very wonderful > Feline Cancer group. I would definitely suggest the Feline Cancer group > regardless of your interest in the Neoplasene, perhaps someone has experience > with a similar cancer. And I would suggest researching the salve thoroughly, > I don't know much about it but sounds like it can be extremely painful in > some cases. > > > > http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-cancer/ > > http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/TheBlackSalveNeoplaseneCancerForum/ > > > > Good luck to Ms Phelps and to you! > > > > Heather > > On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:43 PM, wrote: > > I have mss phelps who is FIV/FELV. All of a sudden,he got a huge lump on > the side of his neck. I immed took him to vet where they did a biopsy. This > a.m. I called and they said it is sarcoma. someone told me about some black > paste I can use on it. can anyone in this group steer me in the right > direction. thank you. > > > > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > > > > ___ > elvtalk mailing list > elvt...@felineleukemia.org > ttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] mssr. phelps
this is the email i rec'd: Pandie Ann, My feeling is that at this point you cannot use the Black Salve: 1) He has been eating only dry food; therefore, it may be difficult to switch him to raw meat, and to get him to eat the raw meat with the essential supplements, all of which he needs to do the necessary repairing and healing after applying the Black Salve. 2) He needs time to build up his body's strength to go through the ordeal of healing. And he doesn't have that time. 3) It is not clear from your email whether he is the FIV/FELV cat or you are speaking in general about other cats you have. If he is FIV/FELV, for sure he will not have the Vital Life Force to heal once the Black Salve goes after the cancer cells. 4) He has had a biopsy; therefore, there is a great possibility the cancer has metastasized. 5) The growth/lump is so near to his trachea, that as it swells...as part of the healing...after applying the Black Salve, it might close off his airway. My opinion is that I would not put him through the trauma of surgically removing the growth either. He won't live any longer...in fact, you may shorten his life, by his going through that trauma of surgery...and surgery will not stop the cancer from going to another area...in fact, the trauma of the surgery will cause it to spread even faster because his immune system will be so weakened by the surgery. I wish I had a better prognosis, but I do not. Pat Founder/Society for Animal Homeopathy 30 years experience in animal nutrition 25 years experience in classical homeopathy -Original Message- From: Natalie To: felvtalk Sent: Tue, Mar 13, 2012 4:05 pm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] mssr. phelps No, I didn’t mean the neoplasene when I wrote about a black salve – yes, extremely painful. This salve is different., not as painful, depending on the cancer. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:38 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] mssr. phelps I don't know if this will help the sarcoma, but am guessing they were referring to what is called Black Salve Neoplasene. There is a yahoo group for Neoplasene use in pets, and also a very wonderful Feline Cancer group. I would definitely suggest the Feline Cancer group regardless of your interest in the Neoplasene, perhaps someone has experience with a similar cancer. And I would suggest researching the salve thoroughly, I don't know much about it but sounds like it can be extremely painful in some cases. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-cancer/ http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/TheBlackSalveNeoplaseneCancerForum/ Good luck to Ms Phelps and to you! Heather On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:43 PM, wrote: I have mss phelps who is FIV/FELV. All of a sudden,he got a huge lump on the side of his neck. I immed took him to vet where they did a biopsy. This a.m. I called and they said it is sarcoma. someone told me about some black paste I can use on it. can anyone in this group steer me in the right direction. thank you. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ elvtalk mailing list elvt...@felineleukemia.org ttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] mssr. phelps
No, I didn't mean the neoplasene when I wrote about a black salve - yes, extremely painful. This salve is different., not as painful, depending on the cancer. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2012 3:38 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] mssr. phelps I don't know if this will help the sarcoma, but am guessing they were referring to what is called Black Salve Neoplasene. There is a yahoo group for Neoplasene use in pets, and also a very wonderful Feline Cancer group. I would definitely suggest the Feline Cancer group regardless of your interest in the Neoplasene, perhaps someone has experience with a similar cancer. And I would suggest researching the salve thoroughly, I don't know much about it but sounds like it can be extremely painful in some cases. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-cancer/ http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/TheBlackSalveNeoplaseneCancerForum/ Good luck to Ms Phelps and to you! Heather On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:43 PM, wrote: I have mss phelps who is FIV/FELV. All of a sudden,he got a huge lump on the side of his neck. I immed took him to vet where they did a biopsy. This a.m. I called and they said it is sarcoma. someone told me about some black paste I can use on it. can anyone in this group steer me in the right direction. thank you. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] mssr. phelps
I don't know if this will help the sarcoma, but am guessing they were referring to what is called Black Salve Neoplasene. There is a yahoo group for Neoplasene use in pets, and also a very wonderful Feline Cancer group. I would definitely suggest the Feline Cancer group regardless of your interest in the Neoplasene, perhaps someone has experience with a similar cancer. And I would suggest researching the salve thoroughly, I don't know much about it but sounds like it can be extremely painful in some cases. http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/feline-cancer/ http://pets.groups.yahoo.com/group/TheBlackSalveNeoplaseneCancerForum/ Good luck to Ms Phelps and to you! Heather On Tue, Mar 13, 2012 at 12:43 PM, wrote: > ** > I have mss phelps who is FIV/FELV. All of a sudden,he got a huge lump > on the side of his neck. I immed took him to vet where they did a biopsy. > This a.m. I called and they said it is sarcoma. someone told me about some > black paste I can use on it. can anyone in this group steer me in the > right direction. thank you. > > > > ___ > Felvtalk mailing list > Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] mssr. phelps
I have mss phelps who is FIV/FELV. All of a sudden,he got a huge lump on the side of his neck. I immed took him to vet where they did a biopsy. This a.m. I called and they said it is sarcoma. someone told me about some black paste I can use on it. can anyone in this group steer me in the right direction. thank you. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
