Re: Collecting a stool sample?
Hey Michael, You are right. There's a very good possibility it's just a UTI, which is easily treated usually. I don't necessarily see any relation between UTI's and FeLV + status, but I do see it with URI's. Keep us posted on Bella. :) Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:39:55 PM Subject: Re: Collecting a stool sample? I guess I'm having a hard time figuring out the "free of litter" part. With three cats, its tough to know who's used the litter box. I could keep it scooped and watch for her, I suppose, but will a sample I just scoop out be ok? I mean, after she's covered it up, do I just scoop it out and take it? :/ I'm beginning to think the bleeding is from her urinary tract, but I can't be sure. I say this because when I went in the laundry room and examined the litterbox area, I found a tiny drop of clear liquid (about the size of half a pea) with what looked like traces of blood in it. (I didn't have enough sense to grab a syringe and collect it to take with me :( ) I guess I'm going to call my vet, or decide if I want to start using another vet, and figure out what to do. Thanks for the pointers guys! Michael See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. Check out the hottest 2008 models today at Yahoo! Autos. http://autos.yahoo.com/new_cars.html
RE: Collecting a stool sample?
LOL, this is so true! In our household, someone's in there squatting before we've reclosed the litter container...we're always like, "you couldn't have done that 5 minutes ago?" Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Melissa Lind Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 3:30 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Collecting a stool sample? Mine usually scamper to see who can be the first to go in the new litter. The things that excite them never cease to amaze me! Maybe changing the litter will tempt her to go? Melissa From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Kaufmann Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:55 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Collecting a stool sample? My vet tech said they just need it not totally covered in cyrstals, so I always brought in fresh stool that hadn't gotten buried after many other Monkee-trips to the box. It doesn't have to be completely clear, just not entirely covered and not day-old poo. But I only had one cat, and yeah, getting her actual poo is going to the trick. I don't know if this would work, but Monkee was regular as clock-work when I fed him wet food. He would eat it, and then poo. If she is regular like that, you might want to feed her in a separate room with a mini-litter box and then get the sample right after she goes (if segregating her like that temporarily won't effect her). -Caroline From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Collecting a stool sample? Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:39:55 EDT I guess I'm having a hard time figuring out the "free of litter" part. With three cats, its tough to know who's used the litter box. I could keep it scooped and watch for her, I suppose, but will a sample I just scoop out be ok? I mean, after she's covered it up, do I just scoop it out and take it? :/ I'm beginning to think the bleeding is from her urinary tract, but I can't be sure. I say this because when I went in the laundry room and examined the litterbox area, I found a tiny drop of clear liquid (about the size of half a pea) with what looked like traces of blood in it. (I didn't have enough sense to grab a syringe and collect it to take with me :( ) I guess I'm going to call my vet, or decide if I want to start using another vet, and figure out what to do. Thanks for the pointers guys! Michael See what's new at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com/?NCID=AOLCMP0030001170> and Make AOL Your Homepage <http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=AOLCMP0030001169> . Get a FREE small business Web site and more from Microsoft(r) Office Live! <http://g.msn.com/8HMBENUS/2752??PS=47575> This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
RE: Collecting a stool sample?
Mine usually scamper to see who can be the first to go in the new litter. The things that excite them never cease to amaze me! Maybe changing the litter will tempt her to go? Melissa _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Caroline Kaufmann Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:55 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Collecting a stool sample? My vet tech said they just need it not totally covered in cyrstals, so I always brought in fresh stool that hadn't gotten buried after many other Monkee-trips to the box. It doesn't have to be completely clear, just not entirely covered and not day-old poo. But I only had one cat, and yeah, getting her actual poo is going to the trick. I don't know if this would work, but Monkee was regular as clock-work when I fed him wet food. He would eat it, and then poo. If she is regular like that, you might want to feed her in a separate room with a mini-litter box and then get the sample right after she goes (if segregating her like that temporarily won't effect her). -Caroline _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Collecting a stool sample? Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:39:55 EDT I guess I'm having a hard time figuring out the "free of litter" part. With three cats, its tough to know who's used the litter box. I could keep it scooped and watch for her, I suppose, but will a sample I just scoop out be ok? I mean, after she's covered it up, do I just scoop it out and take it? :/ I'm beginning to think the bleeding is from her urinary tract, but I can't be sure. I say this because when I went in the laundry room and examined the litterbox area, I found a tiny drop of clear liquid (about the size of half a pea) with what looked like traces of blood in it. (I didn't have enough sense to grab a syringe and collect it to take with me :( ) I guess I'm going to call my vet, or decide if I want to start using another vet, and figure out what to do. Thanks for the pointers guys! Michael _ See what's new at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com/?NCID=AOLCMP0030001170> and Make AOL Your <http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=AOLCMP0030001169> Homepage. _ Get a FREE small business Web site and more from Microsoft <http://g.msn.com/8HMBENUS/2752??PS=47575> R Office Live!
Re: Collecting a stool sample?
My vet tech said they just need it not totally covered in cyrstals, so I always brought in fresh stool that hadn't gotten buried after many other Monkee-trips to the box. It doesn't have to be completely clear, just not entirely covered and not day-old poo. But I only had one cat, and yeah, getting her actual poo is going to the trick. I don't know if this would work, but Monkee was regular as clock-work when I fed him wet food. He would eat it, and then poo. If she is regular like that, you might want to feed her in a separate room with a mini-litter box and then get the sample right after she goes (if segregating her like that temporarily won't effect her). -Caroline From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: Collecting a stool sample?Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:39:55 EDT I guess I'm having a hard time figuring out the "free of litter" part. With three cats, its tough to know who's used the litter box. I could keep it scooped and watch for her, I suppose, but will a sample I just scoop out be ok? I mean, after she's covered it up, do I just scoop it out and take it? :/ I'm beginning to think the bleeding is from her urinary tract, but I can't be sure. I say this because when I went in the laundry room and examined the litterbox area, I found a tiny drop of clear liquid (about the size of half a pea) with what looked like traces of blood in it. (I didn't have enough sense to grab a syringe and collect it to take with me :( ) I guess I'm going to call my vet, or decide if I want to start using another vet, and figure out what to do. Thanks for the pointers guys!Michael See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. Get a FREE small business Web site and more from Microsoft® Office Live!
RE: Collecting a stool sample?
The "ew" factor in this conversation just keeps escalating -- but maybe you could use a plastic spoon, or something else you can just toss away, to scrape as much of the excess litter off the sample as possible. BTW, my vet's office advises that they need the sample "mooshy" -- I believe that's a medical term meaning not-hard. Which is one of the reasons they prefer as new a sample as possible. In our 5-cat household, the only sure way to know if the sample is really from the cat in question is to put him/her in a room alone with a litterbox and hope he/she feels the need during the allotted time frame. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:40 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Collecting a stool sample? I guess I'm having a hard time figuring out the "free of litter" part. With three cats, its tough to know who's used the litter box. I could keep it scooped and watch for her, I suppose, but will a sample I just scoop out be ok? I mean, after she's covered it up, do I just scoop it out and take it? :/ I'm beginning to think the bleeding is from her urinary tract, but I can't be sure. I say this because when I went in the laundry room and examined the litterbox area, I found a tiny drop of clear liquid (about the size of half a pea) with what looked like traces of blood in it. (I didn't have enough sense to grab a syringe and collect it to take with me :( ) I guess I'm going to call my vet, or decide if I want to start using another vet, and figure out what to do. Thanks for the pointers guys! Michael See what's new at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?NCID=AOLCMP0030001170> and Make AOL Your Homepage <http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=AOLCMP0030001169> . This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
RE: Collecting a stool sample?
What a great idea! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kat Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:38 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Collecting a stool sample? Hi Michael, To collect a urine sample, try replacing the litter with those little aquarium pebbles/stones. That way when Grizzabella goes in the litter box, you can just pour off the urine into a container. It's much easier than trying to collect a sample mid-stream. Kat (Mew Jersey) On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:19:52 EDT > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Collecting a stool sample? > > Hey guys, > > I just got home a few minutes ago and Jeff had been holding Grizzabella > earlier. Apparently there was some blood on his shirt where he was holding her. > I'm not sure if its rectal or vaginal bleeding, but I'm sure when I take her > to the vet they're going to want samples, so do you guys have any > recommendations as to how I can collect a stool and/or urine sample? I've never > attempted it, and I wouldn't even know where to start. Geez! It seems like its > already started. :/ > > Michael > > > > ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com >
Re: Collecting a stool sample?
I guess I'm having a hard time figuring out the "free of litter" part. With three cats, its tough to know who's used the litter box. I could keep it scooped and watch for her, I suppose, but will a sample I just scoop out be ok? I mean, after she's covered it up, do I just scoop it out and take it? :/ I'm beginning to think the bleeding is from her urinary tract, but I can't be sure. I say this because when I went in the laundry room and examined the litterbox area, I found a tiny drop of clear liquid (about the size of half a pea) with what looked like traces of blood in it. (I didn't have enough sense to grab a syringe and collect it to take with me :( ) I guess I'm going to call my vet, or decide if I want to start using another vet, and figure out what to do. Thanks for the pointers guys! Michael ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
Re: Collecting a stool sample?
Hi Michael, To collect a urine sample, try replacing the litter with those little aquarium pebbles/stones. That way when Grizzabella goes in the litter box, you can just pour off the urine into a container. It's much easier than trying to collect a sample mid-stream. Kat (Mew Jersey) On Wed, 12 Sep 2007 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:19:52 EDT > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Collecting a stool sample? > > Hey guys, > > I just got home a few minutes ago and Jeff had been holding Grizzabella > earlier. Apparently there was some blood on his shirt where he was holding > her. > I'm not sure if its rectal or vaginal bleeding, but I'm sure when I take her > to the vet they're going to want samples, so do you guys have any > recommendations as to how I can collect a stool and/or urine sample? I've > never > attempted it, and I wouldn't even know where to start. Geez! It seems like > its > already started. :/ > > Michael > > > > ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com >
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My vet just told me to watch and collect poop when the kitty goes-pick out of litter box. As for urine, that I've never tried. I've seen my vet do it-he'll squeeze kitty in a certain spot and then kitty will go on the table. Then the vet used a syringe to collect off the table. I wouldn't try the squeezing, but if you could catch the urine in a bowl as she is going, then you could get a syringe-full or put it in a plastic glad-ware container or some such thing. Regardless, it won't be much fun staking out the litter box! Good luck, and best wishes for Grizzabella. Melissa _ From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 2:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Collecting a stool sample? Hey guys, I just got home a few minutes ago and Jeff had been holding Grizzabella earlier. Apparently there was some blood on his shirt where he was holding her. I'm not sure if its rectal or vaginal bleeding, but I'm sure when I take her to the vet they're going to want samples, so do you guys have any recommendations as to how I can collect a stool and/or urine sample? I've never attempted it, and I wouldn't even know where to start. Geez! It seems like its already started. :/ Michael _ See what's new at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?NCID=AOLCMP0030001170> and Make AOL Your <http://www.aol.com/mksplash.adp?NCID=AOLCMP0030001169> Homepage.
RE: Collecting a stool sample?
For a stool sample, I think all you need it a fresh stool. So, try not get any from the night before. The vet also needs it to be relatively free of litter, which I find is usually the case, unless you use the crystals like I did with Monkee. I just always scooped some out and put it in a plastic grocery bag. I have heard of other people putting it into an empty/old prescription pill bottle (I guess that way it won't smell so bad on the way to the vet's). The stool sample should be pretty easy to handle. Just collect right before you leave for the vet- that is what I always did. As for a urine sample, I have no idea? I have never been asked to provide one for a pet and I've had a lot of pets (my dad was a vet)! Just take in the stool sample and then go from there is my suggestion. -Caroline From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Collecting a stool sample?Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:19:52 EDT Hey guys, I just got home a few minutes ago and Jeff had been holding Grizzabella earlier. Apparently there was some blood on his shirt where he was holding her. I'm not sure if its rectal or vaginal bleeding, but I'm sure when I take her to the vet they're going to want samples, so do you guys have any recommendations as to how I can collect a stool and/or urine sample? I've never attempted it, and I wouldn't even know where to start. Geez! It seems like its already started. :/ Michael See what's new at AOL.com and Make AOL Your Homepage. Test your celebrity IQ. Play Red Carpet Reveal and earn great prizes!
Collecting a stool sample?
Hey guys, I just got home a few minutes ago and Jeff had been holding Grizzabella earlier. Apparently there was some blood on his shirt where he was holding her. I'm not sure if its rectal or vaginal bleeding, but I'm sure when I take her to the vet they're going to want samples, so do you guys have any recommendations as to how I can collect a stool and/or urine sample? I've never attempted it, and I wouldn't even know where to start. Geez! It seems like its already started. :/ Michael ** See what's new at http://www.aol.com
