Re: To Taylor: Re: I need information please

2007-08-04 Thread Marylyn
If the cats have been together that long I would not worry about them mixing.  
Vaccination is something others on the list can advise you on.  Keeping them 
separated will make them unhappy and you miserable.  

Feed both of them the best diet you can, full of protein and vitamins and lots 
of supplements.  strengthen their immune systems as best you can.   Stop 
worrying or you will loose all the precious time you have with the little ones. 
 Remember that none of us know when we are leaving this world and we need to 
have the best quality of life possible..full of love and ear 
scratchings and naps and chin rubs and

If you have a holistic/alternative vet in your area please consult him/her for 
additional information and find another regular vet.  Anyone that would 
recommend you kill a healthy cat just because it has been exposed to a virus is 
too out of date to deal with the situation you have.  

Blessings to you and your little ones.  






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exclude any of God's creatures
 from the shelter of compassion 
and pity, you will have men who 
 will deal likewise with their 
fellow man.
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  - Original Message - 
  From: wendy 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Saturday, August 04, 2007 12:03 AM
  Subject: To Taylor: Re: I need information please


  Taylor,

  Glad to see you!  We missed you!

  :)
  Wendy
   
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the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade 
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  - Original Message 
  From: Taylor Scobie Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2007 12:00:22 AM
  Subject: Re: I need information please

  Get your precious little girl vaccinated for FeLV.  Don't put your boy down.  
It is hardly necessary.  I'm always shocked when vets still feel that way--that 
is old thinking!  Just because he tests positive for FeLV doesn't mean he will 
get sick right away.  My kitty Mamie lived for ten years with FeLV.  The 
absolutely main thing you must think of is no stress for little Basil.  Of 
course, that means Basil will be the most spoiled cat on the planet--but what 
are our darling pets for if not to spoil spoil spoil with love? 


  You may want to consider finding a new, more forward-thinking vet to get the 
most positive, loving care for little Basil. 


  xxx, Tee 'n' the Wildlife




  "Consciousness is Causal 
   and Physicality is its
   Manifestation."




  On Jul 16, 2007, at 10:22 PM, Malone wrote:


I read all the posts, so I can learn how to deal with this virus. I lost my 
kitten at 9 months, and apparently even though he was vaccinated my 4 year old 
has tested positive for felv. He was diagnosed 4 months ago and shows no sign 
of illness. My vet had recommended putting him down. I just couldn’t lose both 
my boys in one day. I am so thankful I didn’t because Basil is fine. My 
question is about the ability to fight off the virus—does this really happen? 
Has anyone on this list actually had a felv+ cat that kicked the virus? What 
should I expect and what should I be doing to help keep him healthy? I tried to 
separate my felv+ boy and felv- girl, but they howled and cried something 
fierce. They have been together since they were kittens. I let them mix, and 
she is still negative. I read the information about blood tests, and I get 
confused. Basil’s blood work seems normal, other than the fact that he tested 
positive. Thank you.









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To Taylor: Re: I need information please

2007-08-03 Thread wendy
Taylor,

Glad to see you!  We missed you!

:)
Wendy
 
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world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~



- Original Message 
From: Taylor Scobie Humphrey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, August 4, 2007 12:00:22 AM
Subject: Re: I need information please

Get your precious little girl vaccinated for FeLV.  Don't put your boy down.  
It is hardly necessary.  I'm always shocked when vets still feel that way--that 
is old thinking!  Just because he tests positive for FeLV doesn't mean he will 
get sick right away.  My kitty Mamie lived for ten years with FeLV.  The 
absolutely main thing you must think of is no stress for little Basil.  Of 
course, that means Basil will be the most spoiled cat on the planet--but what 
are our darling pets for if not to spoil spoil spoil with love?


You may want to consider finding a new, more forward-thinking vet to get the 
most positive, loving care for little Basil.


xxx, Tee 'n' the Wildlife




"Consciousness is Causal 
 and Physicality is its
 Manifestation."




On Jul 16, 2007, at 10:22 PM, Malone wrote:


I read all the posts, so I can learn how to deal with this virus. I lost my 
kitten at 9 months, and apparently even though he was vaccinated my 4 year old 
has tested positive for felv. He was diagnosed 4 months ago and shows no sign 
of illness. My vet had recommended putting him down. I just couldn’t lose both 
my boys in one day. I am so thankful I didn’t because Basil is fine. My 
question is about the ability to fight off the virus—does this really happen? 
Has anyone on this list actually had a felv+ cat that kicked the virus? What 
should I expect and what should I be doing to help keep him healthy? I tried to 
separate my felv+ boy and felv- girl, but they howled and cried something 
fierce. They have been together since they were kittens. I let them mix, and 
she is still negative. I read the information about blood tests, and I get 
confused. Basil’s blood work seems normal, other than the fact that he tested 
positive. Thank you.


  

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Re: I need information please

2007-08-03 Thread Taylor Scobie Humphrey
Get your precious little girl vaccinated for FeLV.  Don't put your  
boy down.  It is hardly necessary.  I'm always shocked when vets  
still feel that way--that is old thinking!  Just because he tests  
positive for FeLV doesn't mean he will get sick right away.  My kitty  
Mamie lived for ten years with FeLV.  The absolutely main thing you  
must think of is no stress for little Basil.  Of course, that means  
Basil will be the most spoiled cat on the planet--but what are our  
darling pets for if not to spoil spoil spoil with love?


You may want to consider finding a new, more forward-thinking vet to  
get the most positive, loving care for little Basil.


xxx, Tee 'n' the Wildlife


"Consciousness is Causal
 and Physicality is its
 Manifestation."


On Jul 16, 2007, at 10:22 PM, Malone wrote:

I read all the posts, so I can learn how to deal with this virus. I  
lost my kitten at 9 months, and apparently even though he was  
vaccinated my 4 year old has tested positive for felv. He was  
diagnosed 4 months ago and shows no sign of illness. My vet had  
recommended putting him down. I just couldn’t lose both my boys in  
one day. I am so thankful I didn’t because Basil is fine. My  
question is about the ability to fight off the virus—does this  
really happen? Has anyone on this list actually had a felv+ cat  
that kicked the virus? What should I expect and what should I be  
doing to help keep him healthy? I tried to separate my felv+ boy  
and felv- girl, but they howled and cried something fierce. They  
have been together since they were kittens. I let them mix, and she  
is still negative. I read the information about blood tests, and I  
get confused. Basil’s blood work seems normal, other than the fact  
that he tested positive. Thank you.







Re: I need information please (Malone)

2007-07-20 Thread Gina WN
My Pippin tested positive on the ELISA test at 6 weeks of age.  She tested 
negative on the IFA test at 6 months of age.  While waiting for the second 
test, I fed her Innova Evo wet and dry food, gave her 500 grams of Lysine per 
day in her wet food, provided lots of love and low stress.  My vet thinks she 
had a false positive on the first test, the ELISA.  I can't say for sure that 
she threw the virus, but she is negative now and was positive then.  
   
  Gina
  

Malone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thank you for the advice. I know he got it from the kitten. He 
had two tests both negative when he came in the home. He was tested when I 
picked him up from the humane society and then he was retested when Teaser was 
retested. They both had two tests before 1 year of age and that was when I 
vaccinated them for the first time. Basil had 2 other boosters. Teaser is a 
year older and she had been vaccinated 3 times. When my baby boy died both 
Basil and Teaser were retested. She is still negative but Basil was positive. 
My vet then said there was no reason to wait he would be like the kitten in a 
matter of weeks. He also felt if I kept him I would infect Teaser. I don’t 
think he is a bad vet, but hasn’t really dealt with felv much. He is really a 
vet for most of the ranches in the area. I have an opportunity to share what I 
learn here with him. That is a blessing. But now I have to wonder if he 
shouldn’t be retested, something my vet said would only cause me more
 heartache. If I take him to another vet and get a different result that would 
prove that this virus could be fought off. I just didn’t want to get my hopes 
up too high. That is why I was wondering if anyone here had a cat that was 
positive end up negative. 
   
  Thank you to you, Hideyo, and Susan for the advice and assistance.




 
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Re: I need information please (catatonya)

2007-07-17 Thread glenda Goodman
Susan, This site is an eye-opener for me...Besides
that, some of you people have to be angels...I cannot
even comprehend the nightmare some of these kitties
have experienced. What a lovely group of people have
gathered here, hoping to help these kitties ...Bless
every one of you guys! I just felt like saying
that...Glenda
--- Susan Dubose <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> It can happen.
> 
> (Catching felv. from a kitten @ 4 yrs. old).
> 
> Ursula came from a hoarder / breeder, along w/
> Serenity & Lola.
> 
> Lola & Serenity came to me from the pound after
> being seized by AC, they were both a "hot" pos.
> 
> Ursula came form the same house, but tested neg /
> neg.
> 
> Ursula was a "breeder", and she lived in a cage most
> of her life, I can tell by the way she walks.
> 
> She is about 5 yrears old or so.
> 
> Anyway, I isolated her in a bathroom since in my
> eyes, she was a "limbo" cat.
> 
> In otherwords, she had an exposure but tested neg.
> upon me getting her.
> 
> I took her in for her spay 2 months later and she
> tested a "soft" pos. for leuk.
> 
> Due to the circumstances, I did not see any reason
> to do anymore elaborate tests.
> 
> She came from a pos. house, where 65 other cats w/
> the exception of a few kittens tested pos.
> 
> If you know the history of the situation of the cat
> & it's former living conditions, saying she is pos.
> after one test is a reasonable call.
> 
> She has so far not show any symptoms, and it's been
> almost a year.
> 
> Lola seems ok so far, she does sleep a lot.
> 
> Lillian came from a hoarder w/ 185 cats, she tested
> pos. for leuk., while others in the house tested
> neg. but others also tested pos.
> 
> I have 12 more that are in "limbo", and we will
> begin retesting them in about 2 to 3 weeks.
> 
> We are going w/ a 4 month incubation period.
> 
> 
> 
> Susan J. DuBose  >^..^<
> www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
> www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
> www.shadowcats.net
>   "As Cleopatra lay
> in state,
>Faithful Bast at
> her side did wait,
>Purring welcomes
> of soft applause,
>    Ever guarding
> with sharpened claws."
>  Trajan
> Tennent
> 
> 
> 
> 
>   - Original Message - 
>   From: catatonya 
>   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>   Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 10:22 AM
>   Subject: Re: I need information please (catatonya)
> 
> 
>   I would wait 3 months and retest.  I find it hard
> to believe that he would have 'caught' felv from a
> kitten at 4 years old.
> 
>   tonya
> 
>   Malone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 



   

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To Malone Re: I need information please

2007-07-17 Thread wendy
Hi Malone,

I hope you are getting lots of good info. to help you make your decisions for 
your furbaby.  Here is a good link that talks about seroconverting (throwing 
the virus).  

http://www.alleycat.org/pdf/test.pdf

There are others out there that will give similar info on FeLV, but the numbers 
might be different.  It's a fairly newly diagnosed feline disease, so there's 
much more to learn about FeLV and research is still ongoing.  

I think the numbers are 30-40% will seroconvert after exposure/testing 
positive, but not sure.  Still, it's a good chance that your furbaby has a 
chance to throw this virus.  Love, attention. a good diet with immune-boosting 
supplements, and a stress-free environment will make the chances even greater.  

:)
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Re: I need information please (catatonya)

2007-07-17 Thread Susan Dubose
It can happen.

(Catching felv. from a kitten @ 4 yrs. old).

Ursula came from a hoarder / breeder, along w/ Serenity & Lola.

Lola & Serenity came to me from the pound after being seized by AC, they were 
both a "hot" pos.

Ursula came form the same house, but tested neg / neg.

Ursula was a "breeder", and she lived in a cage most of her life, I can tell by 
the way she walks.

She is about 5 yrears old or so.

Anyway, I isolated her in a bathroom since in my eyes, she was a "limbo" cat.

In otherwords, she had an exposure but tested neg. upon me getting her.

I took her in for her spay 2 months later and she tested a "soft" pos. for leuk.

Due to the circumstances, I did not see any reason to do anymore elaborate 
tests.

She came from a pos. house, where 65 other cats w/ the exception of a few 
kittens tested pos.

If you know the history of the situation of the cat & it's former living 
conditions, saying she is pos. after one test is a reasonable call.

She has so far not show any symptoms, and it's been almost a year.

Lola seems ok so far, she does sleep a lot.

Lillian came from a hoarder w/ 185 cats, she tested pos. for leuk., while 
others in the house tested neg. but others also tested pos.

I have 12 more that are in "limbo", and we will begin retesting them in about 2 
to 3 weeks.

We are going w/ a 4 month incubation period.



Susan J. DuBose  >^..^<
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
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   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws."
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  - Original Message - 
  From: catatonya 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 10:22 AM
  Subject: Re: I need information please (catatonya)


  I would wait 3 months and retest.  I find it hard to believe that he would 
have 'caught' felv from a kitten at 4 years old.

  tonya

  Malone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:



RE: I need information please (catatonya)

2007-07-17 Thread Melissa Lind
How horrible that he would tell you it would only be a matter of weeks!
That's appalling. My Cassidy is happy and doing fine at his sanctuary
without symptoms (that I know of), and he tested positive in April. The vet
I went to mostly dealt with livestock, and pets weren't as important
(they're not worth as much money). I hope you are able to find a more
pet-friendly vet.

 

Melissa 

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Malone
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 9:49 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: I need information please (catatonya)

 

Thank you for the advice. I know he got it from the kitten. He had two tests
both negative when he came in the home. He was tested when I picked him up
from the humane society and then he was retested when Teaser was retested.
They both had two tests before 1 year of age and that was when I vaccinated
them for the first time. Basil had 2 other boosters. Teaser is a year older
and she had been vaccinated 3 times. When my baby boy died both Basil and
Teaser were retested. She is still negative but Basil was positive. My vet
then said there was no reason to wait he would be like the kitten in a
matter of weeks. He also felt if I kept him I would infect Teaser. I don't
think he is a bad vet, but hasn't really dealt with felv much. He is really
a vet for most of the ranches in the area. I have an opportunity to share
what I learn here with him. That is a blessing. But now I have to wonder if
he shouldn't be retested, something my vet said would only cause me more
heartache. If I take him to another vet and get a different result that
would prove that this virus could be fought off. I just didn't want to get
my hopes up too high. That is why I was wondering if anyone here had a cat
that was positive end up negative. 

 

Thank you to you, Hideyo, and Susan for the advice and assistance.



RE: I need information please (catatonya)

2007-07-17 Thread Chris
Couple of questions.  When you sai that Basil & Teaser were vaccinated & had
boosters-do you mean that they had Feline Leukemia vaccines?  Also, if Basil
had pos on the Elissa Snap test in the office, wait a couple of months and
have them run an Elissa (blood work sent to lab).  

 

As for mixing, my Tuscon showed up pos after testing neg as a kitten & some
of those early kitten tests are not always too accurate.  None of my negs
had gotten it though they were all exposed to each other since kittenhood.
I vaccinate my negs now but I think its real hard for an adult healthy cat
to catch it.  

 

Basically, my Tucson & another pos I took, Romeo, are pretty healthy and
they're getting to be around 8 or 9.  

 

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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Malone
Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 10:49 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: I need information please (catatonya)

 

Thank you for the advice. I know he got it from the kitten. He had two tests
both negative when he came in the home. He was tested when I picked him up
from the humane society and then he was retested when Teaser was retested.
They both had two tests before 1 year of age and that was when I vaccinated
them for the first time. Basil had 2 other boosters. Teaser is a year older
and she had been vaccinated 3 times. When my baby boy died both Basil and
Teaser were retested. She is still negative but Basil was positive. My vet
then said there was no reason to wait he would be like the kitten in a
matter of weeks. He also felt if I kept him I would infect Teaser. I don't
think he is a bad vet, but hasn't really dealt with felv much. He is really
a vet for most of the ranches in the area. I have an opportunity to share
what I learn here with him. That is a blessing. But now I have to wonder if
he shouldn't be retested, something my vet said would only cause me more
heartache. If I take him to another vet and get a different result that
would prove that this virus could be fought off. I just didn't want to get
my hopes up too high. That is why I was wondering if anyone here had a cat
that was positive end up negative. 

 

Thank you to you, Hideyo, and Susan for the advice and assistance.



RE: I need information please (catatonya)

2007-07-17 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
Dear Malone,
Bless you for protecting your kitties from your vet's recommendation to
euthanize. 
Yes, the virus can be thrown off. 
In 2003 I took in a colony of 5 kittens and 1 young adult, who all
continued to live together in my 2nd bedroom pending testing. The 5
kittens tested postive twice. The older cat was negative both times.
Over the subsequent 21 months or so, 4 of the 5 kittens succumbed to the
FeLV. 
I had the remaining "kitten"--Mickey-- and the older
cat--Momcat--retested last year, since I wanted to see if they could be
integrated with my general household (I had stopped vaccinating my other
cats against FeLV when they all became indoors cats, and didn't want to
start again.). Momcat was still negativeand now Mickey tested
negative too. (My vet, whom I trust totally, and who has been very
supportive re the FeLV, did the testing in his own office, showed me the
test device, and said the result was "unambiguous." We were
high-fiving.)
Throwing off the virus is not that uncommon, according to my vet-- I've
forgotten the figure he gave me, but it was substantial--maybe
one-third, or even more. I'll ask him again, next time I see him. 
We can't control the outcome--all we can do is love and care for them as
much as possible, and hope that even if they don't throw off the virus
they will have long happy lives. Although I was heart-broken to lose my
4, I know that at least their (all too short) lives had quality. They
were warm and looked after and had each other, and when they passed I
was there to comfort them. 
There would be no point in separating your 2 babes at this stage since
Teaser has already been exposed. And as you've already witnessed, it
would upset them dreadfully and needlessly. It's wonderful they have
such a bond. 
And, it's wonderful they have you Malone. Bless you for your compassion
and refusal to accept the vet's word. 
Kerry M.
 
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Thank you for the advice. I know he got it from the kitten. He had two
tests both negative when he came in the home. He was tested when I
picked him up from the humane society and then he was retested when
Teaser was retested. They both had two tests before 1 year of age and
that was when I vaccinated them for the first time. Basil had 2 other
boosters. Teaser is a year older and she had been vaccinated 3 times.
When my baby boy died both Basil and Teaser were retested. She is still
negative but Basil was positive. My vet then said there was no reason to
wait he would be like the kitten in a matter of weeks. He also felt if I
kept him I would infect Teaser. I don't think he is a bad vet, but
hasn't really dealt with felv much. He is really a vet for most of the
ranches in the area. I have an opportunity to share what I learn here
with him. That is a blessing. But now I have to wonder if he shouldn't
be retested, something my vet said would only cause me more heartache.
If I take him to another vet and get a different result that would prove
that this virus could be fought off. I just didn't want to get my hopes
up too high. That is why I was wondering if anyone here had a cat that
was positive end up negative. 

 

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Re: I need information please (catatonya)

2007-07-17 Thread catatonya
I would wait 3 months and retest.  I find it hard to believe that he would have 
'caught' felv from a kitten at 4 years old.
   
  tonya

Malone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Thank you for the advice. I know he got it from the kitten. He 
had two tests both negative when he came in the home. He was tested when I 
picked him up from the humane society and then he was retested when Teaser was 
retested. They both had two tests before 1 year of age and that was when I 
vaccinated them for the first time. Basil had 2 other boosters. Teaser is a 
year older and she had been vaccinated 3 times. When my baby boy died both 
Basil and Teaser were retested. She is still negative but Basil was positive. 
My vet then said there was no reason to wait he would be like the kitten in a 
matter of weeks. He also felt if I kept him I would infect Teaser. I don’t 
think he is a bad vet, but hasn’t really dealt with felv much. He is really a 
vet for most of the ranches in the area. I have an opportunity to share what I 
learn here with him. That is a blessing. But now I have to wonder if he 
shouldn’t be retested, something my vet said would only cause me more
 heartache. If I take him to another vet and get a different result that would 
prove that this virus could be fought off. I just didn’t want to get my hopes 
up too high. That is why I was wondering if anyone here had a cat that was 
positive end up negative. 
   
  Thank you to you, Hideyo, and Susan for the advice and assistance.




Re: I need information please (catatonya)

2007-07-17 Thread HIDEYO YAMAMOTO
I personally have not --but my vets had told me that it happened to her clients 
often -
Is there any chance that the vaccine caused it to be positive and he is really 
not positive - I know that FIV vaccines does it to cats, and I have not heard 
that it happens with Felk vaccines -- but how could one be so sure -

Have you done IFA testing for Felk virus to see if he was tested positivce on 
bone marrow level?
  - Original Message - 
  From: Malone<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 8:48 AM
  Subject: Re: I need information please (catatonya)


  Thank you for the advice. I know he got it from the kitten. He had two tests 
both negative when he came in the home. He was tested when I picked him up from 
the humane society and then he was retested when Teaser was retested. They both 
had two tests before 1 year of age and that was when I vaccinated them for the 
first time. Basil had 2 other boosters. Teaser is a year older and she had been 
vaccinated 3 times. When my baby boy died both Basil and Teaser were retested. 
She is still negative but Basil was positive. My vet then said there was no 
reason to wait he would be like the kitten in a matter of weeks. He also felt 
if I kept him I would infect Teaser. I don't think he is a bad vet, but hasn't 
really dealt with felv much. He is really a vet for most of the ranches in the 
area. I have an opportunity to share what I learn here with him. That is a 
blessing. But now I have to wonder if he shouldn't be retested, something my 
vet said would only cause me more heartache. If I take him to another vet and 
get a different result that would prove that this virus could be fought off. I 
just didn't want to get my hopes up too high. That is why I was wondering if 
anyone here had a cat that was positive end up negative. 

   

  Thank you to you, Hideyo, and Susan for the advice and assistance.


Re: I need information please (catatonya)

2007-07-17 Thread Malone
Thank you for the advice. I know he got it from the kitten. He had two tests
both negative when he came in the home. He was tested when I picked him up
from the humane society and then he was retested when Teaser was retested.
They both had two tests before 1 year of age and that was when I vaccinated
them for the first time. Basil had 2 other boosters. Teaser is a year older
and she had been vaccinated 3 times. When my baby boy died both Basil and
Teaser were retested. She is still negative but Basil was positive. My vet
then said there was no reason to wait he would be like the kitten in a
matter of weeks. He also felt if I kept him I would infect Teaser. I don't
think he is a bad vet, but hasn't really dealt with felv much. He is really
a vet for most of the ranches in the area. I have an opportunity to share
what I learn here with him. That is a blessing. But now I have to wonder if
he shouldn't be retested, something my vet said would only cause me more
heartache. If I take him to another vet and get a different result that
would prove that this virus could be fought off. I just didn't want to get
my hopes up too high. That is why I was wondering if anyone here had a cat
that was positive end up negative. 

 

Thank you to you, Hideyo, and Susan for the advice and assistance.



RE: I need information please

2007-07-17 Thread Melissa Lind
Malone,

 

I'm overjoyed to hear you didn't listen to the vet. I agree-change vets! I
had the same thing happen to me. I rescued a beautiful boy, and the vet
suggested since he was FeLV + to put him down. He was so healthy, happy, and
energetic; I just couldn't imagine doing that. How horrible. That's how I
found these guys-I decided to research. Read, read, read-that's the best
thing you can do to get a variety of opinions and see what works for you. I
don't have any FeLV kitties anymore (mine went to a sanctuary), and I've
declined vaccinating my youngest against FeLV just because it isn't 100%
effective and my cats don't interact with other cats/go outside, etc. But,
then again, like someone mentioned, it takes two tests to confirm, so
possibly Basil had it before, but since he's so healthy, I think you two
have a great chance.

 

There's a lot of controversy about mixing FeLV pos and neg. I could never
introduce a FeLV kitty to my clan (the one I had was isolated); however, if
one of my babies turns up positive, and they've all been together for so
long, I'd continue to keep them together. The benefits of companionship
outweigh the risks in my opinion. 

 

Good luck with everything-you've come to the right place. The people here
are very supportive and caring in addition to being knowledgeable.

 

Melissa

 

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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Malone
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 10:23 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: I need information please

 

I read all the posts, so I can learn how to deal with this virus. I lost my
kitten at 9 months, and apparently even though he was vaccinated my 4 year
old has tested positive for felv. He was diagnosed 4 months ago and shows no
sign of illness. My vet had recommended putting him down. I just couldn't
lose both my boys in one day. I am so thankful I didn't because Basil is
fine. My question is about the ability to fight off the virus-does this
really happen? Has anyone on this list actually had a felv+ cat that kicked
the virus? What should I expect and what should I be doing to help keep him
healthy? I tried to separate my felv+ boy and felv- girl, but they howled
and cried something fierce. They have been together since they were kittens.
I let them mix, and she is still negative. I read the information about
blood tests, and I get confused. Basil's blood work seems normal, other than
the fact that he tested positive. Thank you.



Re: I need information please

2007-07-17 Thread catatonya
Basil has an excellent chance of throwing off the virus IF he picked it up from 
your kitten.  The problem is that if you only tested him once as a kitten he 
could have been positive all along.  Either way, the fact that he's 4 years old 
means that he has a good chance of living a long life even with the virus.  
   
  tonya

Malone <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
I read all the posts, so I can learn how to deal with this 
virus. I lost my kitten at 9 months, and apparently even though he was 
vaccinated my 4 year old has tested positive for felv. He was diagnosed 4 
months ago and shows no sign of illness. My vet had recommended putting him 
down. I just couldn’t lose both my boys in one day. I am so thankful I didn’t 
because Basil is fine. My question is about the ability to fight off the 
virus—does this really happen? Has anyone on this list actually had a felv+ cat 
that kicked the virus? What should I expect and what should I be doing to help 
keep him healthy? I tried to separate my felv+ boy and felv- girl, but they 
howled and cried something fierce. They have been together since they were 
kittens. I let them mix, and she is still negative. I read the information 
about blood tests, and I get confused. Basil’s blood work seems normal, other 
than the fact that he tested positive. Thank you.




Re: I need information please

2007-07-17 Thread Susan Dubose
Hi Malone!

Hideyo is quite right, leaving the cats together is the best thing due to their 
quality of life (they love each other) and it's quite possible that the girl 
kitty will not ever get the virus.

And I would definately find another vet ASAP.

To recommend euthanizing a cat (pet)  that is testing pos. but has no symptoms 
is irresponsible, and he / she needs to get w/ the new millineum.

I have 4 cats that are felv+ (so far, I also have 12 fosters that were exposed 
from a hoarder that are waiting for retesting), and my protocal is to give them 
L-Lysine in their moist food every morning along w/ Missing Link.

I use the "professional strength" Missing Link that is supposed to help detox.

Instructions say to give them 3/4 of a teaspoon, but sometimes cats don't like 
it, so I am starting them off w/ a smaller amount and building them up to the 
regular dosage.

We are up to 1/2 teas. now, and so far so good.

Missing Link can cause soft stools, but I have heard that is temporary.

Princess Naughty Lola, who has long, fine, feathery cream furrage did develope 
some soft stools, but we seemed to have worked through that.

Boy, was she fun .  :(

I had to chase her around the office and clean her butt & fur several times a 
day, and even trim her.

She does not like that.

But like I said, that lasted only a few days and now things have settled down.

Good luck and please keep us posted.
Susan J. DuBose  >^..^<
www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com
www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org
www.shadowcats.net
  "As Cleopatra lay in state,
   Faithful Bast at her side did wait,
   Purring welcomes of soft applause,
   Ever guarding with sharpened claws."
 Trajan Tennent




  - Original Message - 
  From: HIDEYO YAMAMOTO 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Tuesday, July 17, 2007 1:17 AM
  Subject: Re: I need information please


  I am so relieved to hear that you did not kill your boy, Basil -- I used the 
word "kill" - because if he was put him down, it's so far away from "being 
euthanized" -- there is no reason for him to be killed - and he is lucky to 
have you, and have your wisdom on his side as apparently your vet is not as 
wise as you are.. (I think you should be looking another vet as soon as you get 
a chance) -

  The myth of whether a kitty can throw off the virus once infected/exposed 
seems to be still myth - but apparently, statistically, 2/3 of kitties who were 
exposed to the virus (not infected) throw off the virus.

  It seems that later s/he is infected at their age, better the chance they 
have to throw the virus off.  The fact that hs is alrady 4 years old is a very 
good sign already as again statistically, 80% of felk kitties die within three 
years of their age.

  Also, I am so glad that you are wise and care enough not to separate the boy 
kitty from girl kitty -- no matter what, sometimes, we have to balance their 
quality of their lives - and I really feel that they are lucky to have you as 
someone who care for them.

  I have three year old girl, Ginger who is also felk positive and she has been 
healthy and I feel very fortunate about it.

  I try not to let test result control their or my life -Whether he throw off 
the virus off or not, the most important thing is to provide stress free 
environment for him so that he can maintain the health that he has -- I use FOI 
(feline interferon -anti vira agent) and other people on the list use different 
things..

  Any vitamin supplement or immune boosters are good for them ---

  Hideyo
- Original Message - 
From: Malone 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 9:22 PM
Subject: I need information please


I read all the posts, so I can learn how to deal with this virus. I lost my 
kitten at 9 months, and apparently even though he was vaccinated my 4 year old 
has tested positive for felv. He was diagnosed 4 months ago and shows no sign 
of illness. My vet had recommended putting him down. I just couldn't lose both 
my boys in one day. I am so thankful I didn't because Basil is fine. My 
question is about the ability to fight off the virus-does this really happen? 
Has anyone on this list actually had a felv+ cat that kicked the virus? What 
should I expect and what should I be doing to help keep him healthy? I tried to 
separate my felv+ boy and felv- girl, but they howled and cried something 
fierce. They have been together since they were kittens. I let them mix, and 
she is still negative. I read the information about blood tests, and I get 
confused. Basil's blood work seems normal, other than the fact that he tested 
positive. Thank you.


Re: I need information please

2007-07-16 Thread HIDEYO YAMAMOTO
I am so relieved to hear that you did not kill your boy, Basil -- I used the 
word "kill" - because if he was put him down, it's so far away from "being 
euthanized" -- there is no reason for him to be killed - and he is lucky to 
have you, and have your wisdom on his side as apparently your vet is not as 
wise as you are.. (I think you should be looking another vet as soon as you get 
a chance) -

The myth of whether a kitty can throw off the virus once infected/exposed seems 
to be still myth - but apparently, statistically, 2/3 of kitties who were 
exposed to the virus (not infected) throw off the virus.

It seems that later s/he is infected at their age, better the chance they have 
to throw the virus off.  The fact that hs is alrady 4 years old is a very good 
sign already as again statistically, 80% of felk kitties die within three years 
of their age.

Also, I am so glad that you are wise and care enough not to separate the boy 
kitty from girl kitty -- no matter what, sometimes, we have to balance their 
quality of their lives - and I really feel that they are lucky to have you as 
someone who care for them.

I have three year old girl, Ginger who is also felk positive and she has been 
healthy and I feel very fortunate about it.

I try not to let test result control their or my life -Whether he throw off the 
virus off or not, the most important thing is to provide stress free 
environment for him so that he can maintain the health that he has -- I use FOI 
(feline interferon -anti vira agent) and other people on the list use different 
things..

Any vitamin supplement or immune boosters are good for them ---

Hideyo
  - Original Message - 
  From: Malone<mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> 
  Sent: Monday, July 16, 2007 9:22 PM
  Subject: I need information please


  I read all the posts, so I can learn how to deal with this virus. I lost my 
kitten at 9 months, and apparently even though he was vaccinated my 4 year old 
has tested positive for felv. He was diagnosed 4 months ago and shows no sign 
of illness. My vet had recommended putting him down. I just couldn't lose both 
my boys in one day. I am so thankful I didn't because Basil is fine. My 
question is about the ability to fight off the virus-does this really happen? 
Has anyone on this list actually had a felv+ cat that kicked the virus? What 
should I expect and what should I be doing to help keep him healthy? I tried to 
separate my felv+ boy and felv- girl, but they howled and cried something 
fierce. They have been together since they were kittens. I let them mix, and 
she is still negative. I read the information about blood tests, and I get 
confused. Basil's blood work seems normal, other than the fact that he tested 
positive. Thank you.


I need information please

2007-07-16 Thread Malone
I read all the posts, so I can learn how to deal with this virus. I lost my
kitten at 9 months, and apparently even though he was vaccinated my 4 year
old has tested positive for felv. He was diagnosed 4 months ago and shows no
sign of illness. My vet had recommended putting him down. I just couldn't
lose both my boys in one day. I am so thankful I didn't because Basil is
fine. My question is about the ability to fight off the virus-does this
really happen? Has anyone on this list actually had a felv+ cat that kicked
the virus? What should I expect and what should I be doing to help keep him
healthy? I tried to separate my felv+ boy and felv- girl, but they howled
and cried something fierce. They have been together since they were kittens.
I let them mix, and she is still negative. I read the information about
blood tests, and I get confused. Basil's blood work seems normal, other than
the fact that he tested positive. Thank you.