Re: [Felvtalk] on shelters and rescues
You have taken FeLV+ & elderly cats from us! Our diabetic cat went to rescue yesterday. --- On Tue, 4/13/10, Beth wrote: From: Beth Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] on shelters and rescues To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, April 13, 2010, 1:14 PM Thank you for all you do for Georgia, Laura. Our rescue pulls from many Animal Controls in GA. We don't euthanize for FIV or FeLV. In fact we have an entire house we rented to house all the FIV kitties. One of our volunteers nicknamed it "The House of Love". We have adopted some of them out. We do pull some "pretty" cats that we know will be easy adoptions, especially if they are already fixed. If a cat is going to be an easy adoption, & make us a few dollars it helps defer some of the costs for the animals who cost us a lot - and we have many of those. We certainly don't ask for vetting to be done. We also have many special needs cats & have taken elderly cats, abused cats, 3-legged cats, etc.. The one cat I have on My FeLV Cats Face Book page was pulled by our rescue from an AC. We think he was beaten with a baseball bat. We do take some owner surrenders. I guess we get them before they go to AC. We also try to help people as best we can to keep the cat they are trying to surrender if it is through no fault of their own. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Sat, 4/10/10, LauraM wrote: From: LauraM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] on shelters and rescues To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, April 10, 2010, 8:15 PM I have actually had rescues ask me - or our shelter's volunteers - to pay (out of our own pockets) to alter and combo-test cats before they take them. Do they reimburse us? Of course not. We finally told one rescue that we were not wealthy people and we just couldn't do it. They will not pull from us unless we pay to have the cats vetted, then they sell those cats for $150 and pocket every dime. Now that's a crappy rescue. There are some bad shelters here in GA. I won't mention any names, but there are several I've heard of that IMMEDIATELY take owner surrendered animals to the back and put them down. Those pets never even get a chance to be adopted. It may be different in other areas of the country, but most GA shelters have high euthanasia rates relative to adoption rates. There are no no-kill county shelters in GA; to label a shelter as "bad" because they are forced to euthanize is just unfair. Nobody wants to do it; everyone is miserable and snippy and cranky on euthanasia day, even the ones who have to take antidepressants as a result. We only euthanize one day a week, our director puts down as few animals as possible, and some days we've been back at capacity by the end of the day, the turn-ins are so bad. Intakes are high - several times we've had 30 or so owner-surrendered animals come in within just a couple of hours. Adoptions are slow, nobody wants cats or larger dogs, only small dogs, puppies and sometimes kittens (mostly at Christmas). Just today we had 8 cats turned in - one is diabetic and was surrendered because the owner didn't want to pay for insulin shots. Pathetic. She just kept screaming at me, "I can't afford to take her to the vet! I can't pay for it!" I charged her a $40 euthanasia fee - we will try to get that cat out of there, but that owner needed to pay for something. One day somebody turned in 15 cats because they were moving. It's so discouraging, they keep coming in and coming in, and we've been getting pregnant cats and kittens like crazy over the past 2 months, and this kitten season will be a bloodbath. This is the time of year when I have to imagine a zipper over my mouth because I get so fed up with these people, nasty stuff just slips on out. Our director will not euthanize cats with FeLV and FIV. We adopt them out. He knows that I have cats with both and he knows that they can have a great quality of life. Sorry for venting, I just get tired of being told - from both the public and from people in rescue - that "you kill animals there." If they have a solution for dealing with all the so-called strays and owner surrenders and accidental litters, we would be happy to hear about it. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] on shelters and rescues
Thank you for all you do for Georgia, Laura. Our rescue pulls from many Animal Controls in GA. We don't euthanize for FIV or FeLV. In fact we have an entire house we rented to house all the FIV kitties. One of our volunteers nicknamed it "The House of Love". We have adopted some of them out. We do pull some "pretty" cats that we know will be easy adoptions, especially if they are already fixed. If a cat is going to be an easy adoption, & make us a few dollars it helps defer some of the costs for the animals who cost us a lot - and we have many of those. We certainly don't ask for vetting to be done. We also have many special needs cats & have taken elderly cats, abused cats, 3-legged cats, etc.. The one cat I have on My FeLV Cats Face Book page was pulled by our rescue from an AC. We think he was beaten with a baseball bat. We do take some owner surrenders. I guess we get them before they go to AC. We also try to help people as best we can to keep the cat they are trying to surrender if it is through no fault of their own. Beth Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org --- On Sat, 4/10/10, LauraM wrote: From: LauraM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] on shelters and rescues To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, April 10, 2010, 8:15 PM I have actually had rescues ask me - or our shelter's volunteers - to pay (out of our own pockets) to alter and combo-test cats before they take them. Do they reimburse us? Of course not. We finally told one rescue that we were not wealthy people and we just couldn't do it. They will not pull from us unless we pay to have the cats vetted, then they sell those cats for $150 and pocket every dime. Now that's a crappy rescue. There are some bad shelters here in GA. I won't mention any names, but there are several I've heard of that IMMEDIATELY take owner surrendered animals to the back and put them down. Those pets never even get a chance to be adopted. It may be different in other areas of the country, but most GA shelters have high euthanasia rates relative to adoption rates. There are no no-kill county shelters in GA; to label a shelter as "bad" because they are forced to euthanize is just unfair. Nobody wants to do it; everyone is miserable and snippy and cranky on euthanasia day, even the ones who have to take antidepressants as a result. We only euthanize one day a week, our director puts down as few animals as possible, and some days we've been back at capacity by the end of the day, the turn-ins are so bad. Intakes are high - several times we've had 30 or so owner-surrendered animals come in within just a couple of hours. Adoptions are slow, nobody wants cats or larger dogs, only small dogs, puppies and sometimes kittens (mostly at Christmas). Just today we had 8 cats turned in - one is diabetic and was surrendered because the owner didn't want to pay for insulin shots. Pathetic. She just kept screaming at me, "I can't afford to take her to the vet! I can't pay for it!" I charged her a $40 euthanasia fee - we will try to get that cat out of there, but that owner needed to pay for something. One day somebody turned in 15 cats because they were moving. It's so discouraging, they keep coming in and coming in, and we've been getting pregnant cats and kittens like crazy over the past 2 months, and this kitten season will be a bloodbath. This is the time of year when I have to imagine a zipper over my mouth because I get so fed up with these people, nasty stuff just slips on out. Our director will not euthanize cats with FeLV and FIV. We adopt them out. He knows that I have cats with both and he knows that they can have a great quality of life. Sorry for venting, I just get tired of being told - from both the public and from people in rescue - that "you kill animals there." If they have a solution for dealing with all the so-called strays and owner surrenders and accidental litters, we would be happy to hear about it. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Just checked my email - there is a senior rescue in Vermont who may be interested! --- On Sat, 4/10/10, MaryChristine wrote: From: MaryChristine Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] on shelters and rescues To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, April 10, 2010, 11:40 PM the info on the little diabetic kitty went out earlier today to a group that is incredibly active with placing them! saw the story on another list this afternoon. MC -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] on shelters and rescues
CONGRATULATIONS ON THE JOB YOU DID. WISH ALL OWNERS COULD SEE THIS. DO YOU THINK THEY WILL GET THE HINT THAT THEY NEED TO THINK BEFORE THEY PICK UP A CUTE KITTEN/PUPPY IN A STORE PARKING LOT. ARE THEY REALLY READY TO TAKE ON THIS RESPONSIBILITY AND OBLIGATION TO THIS TRUSTING CREATURE. COURSE, MANY SHOULD THINK BEFORE THEY HAVE CHILDREN. SAME RESPONSIBILITIES AND OBLIGATIONS. Chris wrote: > I am a "remote" volunteer for a shelter near New Orleans--a shelter that ran > without power or inside water for 18 months post Katrina. Yet with a lot of > work, a tiny, very committed staff, very little money, we managed to keep > the euthanasia rate down to below 15%. There were several keys--not the > least of which was that we did massive publicity (on internet & local > papers) for every animal from the moment they came into the shelter. We had > a decent rate of return on strays & established a nationwide network of > fosters & adopters & small rescues. We could tell you what happened to each > & every animal that was flown out & we publicized those outcomes. Animals > who went to breed rescues were vetted, s/n, & hw treated if needed. We > learned a lot of lessons the hard way & I can not only tell you the > successes but the ones we missed... We didn't do big transports but sent > out one or two animals at a time to selected fosters, pre screened adopters, > small rescues. Cats were the hardest of all & we needed to do a whole lot > better for them. We had no "secrets"--every animal that came in was photo > listed & the director didn't worry that someone was going to ask about an > animal that ultimately had to be euthanized. We got equipment for a surgery > room donated & managed to do low cost s/n for community pets & s/n treatment > for the shelter animals. > > Sadly, a new director came in & it all fell apart. Our approach was very > non-traditional way & we had a core of very hard working volunteers > scattered all over the country. That level of involvement was a lot more > than most shelter directors can handle... > > But throughout our work, I can remember railing at all those pups & kittens > that came in without moms, all those pregnant moms who came in cause they > "accidentally" got pregnant, all those pets that suddenly became > "inconvenient" and on and on. Working in a municipal open admission shelter > is one of the hardest jobs in the world & we reward those workers with > little pay and lots of finger pointing. > > Christiane Biagi > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kim > Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 9:03 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] on shelters and rescues > > Very well said! Unfortunately, very true here in VA, too. And, also, > unfortunately, very sad. I also have a big problem with owner surrenders > and owners who see no need to spay and neuter their pets and let them have > litter after litter to become someone else's problem because the owners take > no responsibility. Kitten season is heartbreaking to me! > > "...Saving just one pet won't change the worldbut surely the world will > change for that one pet..." > > The top ten reasons to spay and neuter your dog or cat were killed in a > shelter today. > > > -Original Message- > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of LauraM > Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 8:15 PM > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] on shelters and rescues > > > I have actually had rescues ask me - or our shelter's volunteers - to pay > (out of our own pockets) to alter and combo-test cats before they take them. > Do they reimburse us? Of course not. We finally told one rescue that we were > not wealthy people and we just couldn't do it. They will not pull from us > unless we pay to have the cats vetted, then they sell those cats for $150 > and pocket every dime. Now that's a crappy rescue. There are some bad > shelters here in GA. I won't mention any names, but there are several I've > heard of that IMMEDIATELY take owner surrendered animals to the back and put > them down. Those pets never even get a chance to be adopted. It may be > different in other areas of the country, but most GA shelters have high > euthanasia rates relative to adoption rates. There are no no-kill county > shelters in GA; to label a shelter as "bad" because they are forced to > euthanize is just unfair. Nobody wants to do it;
Re: [Felvtalk] on shelters and rescues
the info on the little diabetic kitty went out earlier today to a group that is incredibly active with placing them! saw the story on another list this afternoon. MC -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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chris reminded me of something the folks i work with do whenever there is reason: we write and thank the folks at the shelters when they do good, because public shelters rarely get any appreciation from any direction. when we find good city shelters, and/or good animal-control officers, we let them know that their work IS noticed MC -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] on shelters and rescues
I am a "remote" volunteer for a shelter near New Orleans--a shelter that ran without power or inside water for 18 months post Katrina. Yet with a lot of work, a tiny, very committed staff, very little money, we managed to keep the euthanasia rate down to below 15%. There were several keys--not the least of which was that we did massive publicity (on internet & local papers) for every animal from the moment they came into the shelter. We had a decent rate of return on strays & established a nationwide network of fosters & adopters & small rescues. We could tell you what happened to each & every animal that was flown out & we publicized those outcomes. Animals who went to breed rescues were vetted, s/n, & hw treated if needed. We learned a lot of lessons the hard way & I can not only tell you the successes but the ones we missed... We didn't do big transports but sent out one or two animals at a time to selected fosters, pre screened adopters, small rescues. Cats were the hardest of all & we needed to do a whole lot better for them. We had no "secrets"--every animal that came in was photo listed & the director didn't worry that someone was going to ask about an animal that ultimately had to be euthanized. We got equipment for a surgery room donated & managed to do low cost s/n for community pets & s/n treatment for the shelter animals. Sadly, a new director came in & it all fell apart. Our approach was very non-traditional way & we had a core of very hard working volunteers scattered all over the country. That level of involvement was a lot more than most shelter directors can handle... But throughout our work, I can remember railing at all those pups & kittens that came in without moms, all those pregnant moms who came in cause they "accidentally" got pregnant, all those pets that suddenly became "inconvenient" and on and on. Working in a municipal open admission shelter is one of the hardest jobs in the world & we reward those workers with little pay and lots of finger pointing. Christiane Biagi -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kim Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 9:03 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] on shelters and rescues Very well said! Unfortunately, very true here in VA, too. And, also, unfortunately, very sad. I also have a big problem with owner surrenders and owners who see no need to spay and neuter their pets and let them have litter after litter to become someone else's problem because the owners take no responsibility. Kitten season is heartbreaking to me! "...Saving just one pet won't change the worldbut surely the world will change for that one pet..." The top ten reasons to spay and neuter your dog or cat were killed in a shelter today. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of LauraM Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 8:15 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] on shelters and rescues I have actually had rescues ask me - or our shelter's volunteers - to pay (out of our own pockets) to alter and combo-test cats before they take them. Do they reimburse us? Of course not. We finally told one rescue that we were not wealthy people and we just couldn't do it. They will not pull from us unless we pay to have the cats vetted, then they sell those cats for $150 and pocket every dime. Now that's a crappy rescue. There are some bad shelters here in GA. I won't mention any names, but there are several I've heard of that IMMEDIATELY take owner surrendered animals to the back and put them down. Those pets never even get a chance to be adopted. It may be different in other areas of the country, but most GA shelters have high euthanasia rates relative to adoption rates. There are no no-kill county shelters in GA; to label a shelter as "bad" because they are forced to euthanize is just unfair. Nobody wants to do it; everyone is miserable and snippy and cranky on euthanasia day, even the ones who have to take antidepressants as a result. We only euthanize one day a week, our director puts down as few animals as possible, and some days we've been back at capacity by the end of the day, the turn-ins are so bad. Intakes are high - several times we've had 30 or so owner-surrendered animals come in within just a couple of hours. Adoptions are slow, nobody wants cats or larger dogs, only small dogs, puppies and sometimes kittens (mostly at Christmas). Just today we had 8 cats turned in - one is diabetic and was surrendered because the owner didn't want to pay for insulin shots. Pathetic. She just kept screaming at me, "I can't afford to take her to the vet! I can
Re: [Felvtalk] on shelters and rescues
Please, please read Redemption by Nathan Winograd. Coincidentally, we have it for sale at our rescue's Ebay store http://stores.ebay.com/Rescuties-Animal-Rescue But please, get it from somewhere. Amazon, rent it from the library, wherever. I don't want to get into a war on this list about shelters and rescuers. I will say I have met some of the most horrible people in rescue and in shelters that I have ever met, who have caused me more pain than I have thought possible. Blaming people is not the way to go. To be fair, I've also met a few of the NICEST people in rescue - MC, I'm talking to YOU:) . And I strive to be one myself, no matter how nasty other people are. Austin has recently voted to go no-kill, which is defined as having a 90+% save rate. This is not because of, but in spite of, both the shelter AND the rescues. -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties Help us spay some kitties! http://rescuties.chipin.com/feed-hungry-animals "Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say "take them first as long as you leave me alone". ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Very well said! Unfortunately, very true here in VA, too. And, also, unfortunately, very sad. I also have a big problem with owner surrenders and owners who see no need to spay and neuter their pets and let them have litter after litter to become someone else's problem because the owners take no responsibility. Kitten season is heartbreaking to me! "...Saving just one pet won't change the worldbut surely the world will change for that one pet..." The top ten reasons to spay and neuter your dog or cat were killed in a shelter today. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of LauraM Sent: Saturday, April 10, 2010 8:15 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] on shelters and rescues I have actually had rescues ask me - or our shelter's volunteers - to pay (out of our own pockets) to alter and combo-test cats before they take them. Do they reimburse us? Of course not. We finally told one rescue that we were not wealthy people and we just couldn't do it. They will not pull from us unless we pay to have the cats vetted, then they sell those cats for $150 and pocket every dime. Now that's a crappy rescue. There are some bad shelters here in GA. I won't mention any names, but there are several I've heard of that IMMEDIATELY take owner surrendered animals to the back and put them down. Those pets never even get a chance to be adopted. It may be different in other areas of the country, but most GA shelters have high euthanasia rates relative to adoption rates. There are no no-kill county shelters in GA; to label a shelter as "bad" because they are forced to euthanize is just unfair. Nobody wants to do it; everyone is miserable and snippy and cranky on euthanasia day, even the ones who have to take antidepressants as a result. We only euthanize one day a week, our director puts down as few animals as possible, and some days we've been back at capacity by the end of the day, the turn-ins are so bad. Intakes are high - several times we've had 30 or so owner-surrendered animals come in within just a couple of hours. Adoptions are slow, nobody wants cats or larger dogs, only small dogs, puppies and sometimes kittens (mostly at Christmas). Just today we had 8 cats turned in - one is diabetic and was surrendered because the owner didn't want to pay for insulin shots. Pathetic. She just kept screaming at me, "I can't afford to take her to the vet! I can't pay for it!" I charged her a $40 euthanasia fee - we will try to get that cat out of there, but that owner needed to pay for something. One day somebody turned in 15 cats because they were moving. It's so discouraging, they keep coming in and coming in, and we've been getting pregnant cats and kittens like crazy over the past 2 months, and this kitten season will be a bloodbath. This is the time of year when I have to imagine a zipper over my mouth because I get so fed up with these people, nasty stuff just slips on out. Our director will not euthanize cats with FeLV and FIV. We adopt them out. He knows that I have cats with both and he knows that they can have a great quality of life. Sorry for venting, I just get tired of being told - from both the public and from people in rescue - that "you kill animals there." If they have a solution for dealing with all the so-called strays and owner surrenders and accidental litters, we would be happy to hear about it. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I have actually had rescues ask me - or our shelter's volunteers - to pay (out of our own pockets) to alter and combo-test cats before they take them. Do they reimburse us? Of course not. We finally told one rescue that we were not wealthy people and we just couldn't do it. They will not pull from us unless we pay to have the cats vetted, then they sell those cats for $150 and pocket every dime. Now that's a crappy rescue. There are some bad shelters here in GA. I won't mention any names, but there are several I've heard of that IMMEDIATELY take owner surrendered animals to the back and put them down. Those pets never even get a chance to be adopted. It may be different in other areas of the country, but most GA shelters have high euthanasia rates relative to adoption rates. There are no no-kill county shelters in GA; to label a shelter as "bad" because they are forced to euthanize is just unfair. Nobody wants to do it; everyone is miserable and snippy and cranky on euthanasia day, even the ones who have to take antidepressants as a result. We only euthanize one day a week, our director puts down as few animals as possible, and some days we've been back at capacity by the end of the day, the turn-ins are so bad. Intakes are high - several times we've had 30 or so owner-surrendered animals come in within just a couple of hours. Adoptions are slow, nobody wants cats or larger dogs, only small dogs, puppies and sometimes kittens (mostly at Christmas). Just today we had 8 cats turned in - one is diabetic and was surrendered because the owner didn't want to pay for insulin shots. Pathetic. She just kept screaming at me, "I can't afford to take her to the vet! I can't pay for it!" I charged her a $40 euthanasia fee - we will try to get that cat out of there, but that owner needed to pay for something. One day somebody turned in 15 cats because they were moving. It's so discouraging, they keep coming in and coming in, and we've been getting pregnant cats and kittens like crazy over the past 2 months, and this kitten season will be a bloodbath. This is the time of year when I have to imagine a zipper over my mouth because I get so fed up with these people, nasty stuff just slips on out. Our director will not euthanize cats with FeLV and FIV. We adopt them out. He knows that I have cats with both and he knows that they can have a great quality of life. Sorry for venting, I just get tired of being told - from both the public and from people in rescue - that "you kill animals there." If they have a solution for dealing with all the so-called strays and owner surrenders and accidental litters, we would be happy to hear about it. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] on shelters and rescues
GOOD rescues don't pick and choose, and GOOD shelters don't kill. however, there is an entire subculture of shelter-management style known as, "pro-kill"--the places that don't want to be bothered dealing with the public at all, those who'd rather sell to research for the quick $10/per than have to interact with people and fill out paperwork. shelters who refuse to work with rescues, which is absurd because for every critter we take from a shelter, another spot opens up for one to live long enough to find its forever home. as for rescuers, there are those of us who specialize in special-needs cats and dogs--and we take anything, from anywhere, if we can work it out. no one even CALLS us for the adoptable cats; seems that if it has more than 2 legs it's not special-needs to us, with blind or deaf not even on the radar. there are more and more rescues that reach out to those of us doing special-needs work, and it's kinda of hurtful to see our hard, hard work lumped in with those groups who are only out to make money. (every time you click on the animal-rescue site's feed-an-animal app, you're supporting one of the places that takes adoptables from the southern states. and every time you send money to the national SPCA or HSUS, you are NOT helping animals, merely helping the administrators of these groups that do NOT do direct care, justify their salaries and advertising budgets. find a good local rescue or shelter -- and remember that there is NO national oversight agency for humane societies or spcas, ANYONE can call themselves by either name -- and help out there. time with the critters, money, running errands--there is SO much that needs doing, and a place for everyone. just pick the correct place to put your energy) sorry. -- Spay & Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org