Re: Another vet's research re various treatments

2007-07-08 Thread laurieskatz
Thanks Kelly. Some vets don't believe interferon works, but so far it seems 
to be helping Isabella during the 7 days on.
I have posted this earlier but I had 2 FELV+ cats who lived to 22 and 16 
years. Squeaky (22) was never treated and was asymptomatic until his final 
weeks (oral cancer killed him). We treated whatever illnesses arose with 
Stripes, with antibiotics and Vitamin B injections. I don't know if anyone 
knew about all these other treatments then.  Some vets would have 
recommended EU them. They were very large boys. Squeak was healthy all the 
time and Stripes was heathly most of the time.

Laurie

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From: Kelly L [EMAIL PROTECTED]

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, July 07, 2007 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: Another vet's research re various treatments


At 07:36 PM 7/7/2007, you wrote:



I am using immuno regulin and Alferon, ( natural
interferon)  I am not using the Acemamman.
My felv kitty has been asymptomatic and these are
basically prophylactic treatments, I do know the
pred ( and I would probably use the
prednisolone)  doe help the rbs destruction,
depending upon the cause. I used the I.R per
protocol initially IV  and am now doing .5cc IM q
month like they are doing for the FELV cats in the FELV area at Best 
Friends.

Best of Luck
kelly






Offered as information
This was in response to my inquiry about treating with immunoreglin

Re: immunoreglin ~ most of the FeLV eexperts
feel that it has not been shown to have any positive benefit for cats with 
FeLV.  Examples:


My hospital was involved in a nationwide testing of Immunoregulin. The 
clinical trial was cancelled midway thru the trial because their own 
clinical staff said things were not looking positive. Immunoregulin is IV, 
and we used it at 0.5cc once a week. You have to shake the bottle really 
well to mix thoroughly. There isn't really any downside to it, but it will 
not help any more than interferon or staph lysate. Your patient needs 
steroids to help prevent the RBC destruction.



In the interim between posting my question and reading your reply, our 
little cat became acutely febrile (106.3) and was hospitalized overnight on 
fluids, antibiotics and Interferon. She kicked her fever within 24 hours, 
and is now home on daily cefadrops with Interferon. We are also going to 
try Immunoreglin and Acemannan with this little peanut...Do you have any 
experience with Immunoreglin or Acemannan?


 Do you have any experience with
Immunoreglin or Acemannan?  Neither have been shown to have any 
demonstrable benefit in controlled studies.





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Re: Another vet's research re various treatments

2007-07-08 Thread elizabeth trent

I'm pretty sure that Acemannan bought Mama Kitty an extra year with a good
quality of life.  It helped her appetite too.

elizabeth


On 7/7/07, laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 Offered as information
This was in response to my inquiry about treating with immunoreglin

Re: immunoreglin ~ most of the FeLV eexperts feel that it has not been
shown to have any positive benefit for cats with FeLV.  Examples:

My hospital was involved in a nationwide testing of Immunoregulin. The
clinical trial was cancelled midway thru the trial because their own
clinical staff said things were not looking positive. Immunoregulin is IV,
and we used it at 0.5cc once a week. You have to shake the bottle really
well to mix thoroughly. There isn't really any downside to it, but it will
not help any more than interferon or staph lysate. Your patient needs
steroids to help prevent the RBC destruction.


In the interim between posting my question and reading your reply, our
little cat became acutely febrile (106.3) and was hospitalized overnight
on fluids, antibiotics and Interferon. She kicked her fever within 24 hours,
and is now home on daily cefadrops with Interferon. We are also going to try
Immunoreglin and Acemannan with this little peanut...Do you have any
experience with Immunoreglin or Acemannan?

 Do you have any experience with Immunoreglin or Acemannan? 
Neither have been shown to have any demonstrable benefit in controlled
studies.






Re: Another vet's research re various treatments

2007-07-08 Thread Gloria Lane

How did you get the Acemannan?

Gloria
in Arkansas



On Jul 8, 2007, at 10:47 AM, elizabeth trent wrote:

I'm pretty sure that Acemannan bought Mama Kitty an extra year with  
a good quality of life.  It helped her appetite too.


elizabeth


On 7/7/07, laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Offered as information
This was in response to my inquiry about treating with immunoreglin

Re: immunoreglin ~ most of the FeLV eexperts feel that it has  
not been shown to have any positive benefit for cats with FeLV.   
Examples:


My hospital was involved in a nationwide testing of Immunoregulin.  
The clinical trial was cancelled midway thru the trial because  
their own clinical staff said things were not looking positive.  
Immunoregulin is IV, and we used it at 0.5cc once a week. You have  
to shake the bottle really well to mix thoroughly. There isn't  
really any downside to it, but it will not help any more than  
interferon or staph lysate. Your patient needs steroids to help  
prevent the RBC destruction.



In the interim between posting my question and reading your reply,  
our little cat became acutely febrile (106.3) and was hospitalized  
overnight on fluids, antibiotics and Interferon. She kicked her  
fever within 24 hours, and is now home on daily cefadrops with  
Interferon. We are also going to try Immunoreglin and Acemannan  
with this little peanut...Do you have any experience with  
Immunoreglin or Acemannan?


 Do you have any experience with Immunoreglin or Acemannan?   
Neither have been shown to have any demonstrable benefit in  
controlled studies.









Re: Another vet's research re various treatments

2007-07-08 Thread elizabeth trent

Acemannan is manufactured by Veterinary Products Laboratories

http://www.vpl.com/product.php?catmain=mainkey=pid=80key=acemannancat=Wound%20Management

Using it for FeVL+ is an off label use of the drug.  It is a series of
weekly shots administered directly into the stomach.  I was terrified of
Mama Kitty going through that but she did very well.  We also gave her
steroids and supplements...but once she started the Acemannan, we noticed a
difference quickly.

It's not cheap, by the way...Seems like I paid close to $400 for a five week
treatment.

I read a number of articles about it and discussed it with my vet.  He
researched it too and ordered some through a distributor.  (The VPL website
lists distributors by state too).

All I know is that it changed my vet's mind about recommended Euthanasia for
FeVL+.  He says he would use it again.  It was amazing she made it through
that crash.  It's not a cure all - do all...but it made a lot of difference
that time.

Mama Kitty finally came to a point where nothing could help her and she went
down rapidly...but there is nothing I would trade for that extra year we
got.  She was even playing with her toys again.


On 7/8/07, Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


How did you get the Acemannan?

Gloria
in Arkansas





 On Jul 8, 2007, at 10:47 AM, elizabeth trent wrote:

 I'm pretty sure that Acemannan bought Mama Kitty an extra year with a
good quality of life.  It helped her appetite too.

elizabeth


On 7/7/07, laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Offered as information
 This was in response to my inquiry about treating with immunoreglin

 Re: immunoreglin ~ most of the FeLV eexperts feel that it has not
 been shown to have any positive benefit for cats with FeLV.  Examples:

 My hospital was involved in a nationwide testing of Immunoregulin. The
 clinical trial was cancelled midway thru the trial because their own
 clinical staff said things were not looking positive. Immunoregulin is IV,
 and we used it at 0.5cc once a week. You have to shake the bottle really
 well to mix thoroughly. There isn't really any downside to it, but it will
 not help any more than interferon or staph lysate. Your patient needs
 steroids to help prevent the RBC destruction.
 

 In the interim between posting my question and reading your reply, our
 little cat became acutely febrile (106.3) and was hospitalized overnight
 on fluids, antibiotics and Interferon. She kicked her fever within 24 hours,
 and is now home on daily cefadrops with Interferon. We are also going to try
 Immunoreglin and Acemannan with this little peanut...Do you have any
 experience with Immunoreglin or Acemannan?

  Do you have any experience with Immunoreglin or Acemannan? 
 Neither have been shown to have any demonstrable benefit in controlled
 studies.










Another vet's research re various treatments

2007-07-07 Thread laurieskatz
Offered as information 
This was in response to my inquiry about treating with immunoreglin

Re: immunoreglin ~ most of the FeLV eexperts feel that it has not been shown 
to have any positive benefit for cats with FeLV.  Examples: 

My hospital was involved in a nationwide testing of Immunoregulin. The 
clinical trial was cancelled midway thru the trial because their own clinical 
staff said things were not looking positive. Immunoregulin is IV, and we used 
it at 0.5cc once a week. You have to shake the bottle really well to mix 
thoroughly. There isn't really any downside to it, but it will not help any 
more than interferon or staph lysate. Your patient needs steroids to help 
prevent the RBC destruction. 


In the interim between posting my question and reading your reply, our little 
cat became acutely febrile (106.3) and was hospitalized overnight on fluids, 
antibiotics and Interferon. She kicked her fever within 24 hours, and is now 
home on daily cefadrops with Interferon. We are also going to try Immunoreglin 
and Acemannan with this little peanut...Do you have any experience with 
Immunoreglin or Acemannan? 

 Do you have any experience with Immunoreglin or Acemannan?  Neither 
 have been shown to have any demonstrable benefit in controlled studies.




Re: Another vet's research re various treatments

2007-07-07 Thread Kelly L

At 07:36 PM 7/7/2007, you wrote:



I am using immuno regulin and Alferon, ( natural 
interferon)  I am not using the Acemamman.
My felv kitty has been asymptomatic and these are 
basically prophylactic treatments, I do know the 
pred ( and I would probably use the 
prednisolone)  doe help the rbs destruction, 
depending upon the cause. I used the I.R per 
protocol initially IV  and am now doing .5cc IM q 
month like they are doing for the FELV cats in the FELV area at Best Friends.

Best of Luck
kelly






Offered as information
This was in response to my inquiry about treating with immunoreglin

Re: immunoreglin ~ most of the FeLV eexperts 
feel that it has not been shown to have any 
positive benefit for cats with FeLV.  Examples:


My hospital was involved in a nationwide 
testing of Immunoregulin. The clinical trial was 
cancelled midway thru the trial because their 
own clinical staff said things were not looking 
positive. Immunoregulin is IV, and we used it at 
0.5cc once a week. You have to shake the bottle 
really well to mix thoroughly. There isn't 
really any downside to it, but it will not help 
any more than interferon or staph lysate. Your 
patient needs steroids to help prevent the RBC destruction.



In the interim between posting my question and 
reading your reply, our little cat became 
acutely febrile (106.3) and was hospitalized 
overnight on fluids, antibiotics and Interferon. 
She kicked her fever within 24 hours, and is now 
home on daily cefadrops with Interferon. We are 
also going to try Immunoreglin and Acemannan 
with this little peanut...Do you have any 
experience with Immunoreglin or Acemannan?


 Do you have any experience with 
Immunoreglin or Acemannan?  Neither have 
been shown to have any demonstrable benefit in controlled studies.





Internal Virus Database is out-of-date.
Checked by AVG Free Edition.
Version: 0.0.476 / Virus Database: 269.9.10/875 
- Release Date: 6/27/2007 9:08 PM