Re: To Leslie: Re: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p.
On that note: The Royal Princess Kitty Katt was diagnosed with cancer that was so invasive I was told she would live maybe 2 months without chemo. We optedout of the chemo because of what she told me and several ACs I know and quality of life issues openly and honestly discussed with my vets. She lived almost 15 months and all but the last week was very high quality. She spent the last week or so saying goodbye to her first person. We can never be sure when they are leaving and we can not be sure when we are leaving. Worrying about it takes the life out of what life we have. The Royal Princess Kitty was the picture of health when she was diagnosed. She was being seen for something entirely different when the cancer was discovered. I learned so much from her and I miss her awfully but she is totally happy with her first man now and I envy her that happiness and peace. She did her job on earth wonderfully. Now she can rest with him. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Pam Norman To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 10:28 PM Subject: Re: To Leslie: Re: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p. Leslie, A wonderful tribute to Sushi what you she learned together. All of us should remember it, whether it is FeLV we are dealing with or any of the other kitty ills that can so easily reduce us to helpless fear. I was told that Ambrose, my first CRF kitty, who was diagnosed in 1997, would be gone in 6 months. He lived for 3 happy healthy years before dying of heart disease. Troika, who was diagnosed with fibrosarcoma in 2000, was given 9 months, lived for 6 more years cancer-free. Vets are good vets are jackasses. We should be careful about their pronouncements, regardless of which they are. After all, it's our kitty we know them better than anyone it's we who are committed to that kitty's life, be it for years or months. And that life can should be joyous, regardless of what the numbers say. Pam - Original Message - From: Leslie To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 1:09 PM Subject: Re: To Leslie: Re: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p. Thank you, Wendy! Message: 10Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 07:06:09 -0700 (PDT)From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: To Leslie: Re: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p.To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgMessage-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1Leslie-I loved this post.You are one cool cat.:)Wendy--- Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Kayte, My first FeLV+ cat was also the first cat that I ever owned on my own.I'd grown up with all sorts of critters, but it took a few years after graduating college to finally get in a situation where I could own my first "all mine" pet.I'd been wanting this cat forever. I found Sushi at a shelter, she was 2 years old and demanded that I take her home that very instant.I L-O-V-E-D that cat.The shelter had tested for leukemia and FIV before I adopted her and she'd tested negative.One month after having her home, she was very lethargic.I ran with her in a carrier to a vet that I'd seen near my apartment, but I'd never met.This was New York City (Queens), so not having a car, and not wanting to subject a cat to a subway ride, I was pretty limited in my vet choices.The vet was an ass. He had no bedside manner.Hemade me feel like the whole situation was my fault.He'd HAVE to rehydrate, he'd HAVE to do bloodwork, he'd HAVE to keep her during the day - like I wasn't going to be paying him for his efforts. I was in tears, which didn't make him respect me any more.Quite frankly, he scared the hell out of me, and as it's all of our deepest fears that it really IS our fault, I was a mess.He retested her for FeLV+ (she'd been rescued from a house full of cats, so may have been exposed close to rescue and the first testing).I took her home as she'd perked back up, the fluids really helped, and she rebounded fully.Despite this, when he called to tell me that she was positive and anemic and had "maybe" a month to live, told me to expect to see rapid deterioration, blah, blah, blah, I was again distraught.The next week, against the back drop of her romping around and talking to herself, chasing bits of dust, knocking things over (her favorite was to knock my glass of water onto me at night), trying
Re: To Leslie: Re: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p.
we never have any guarantees with any of the critters that share our lives--it used to make me nuts when people would bring FeLVs to the sanctuary, asymptomatic, and say they couldn't keep them, because they were going to die. well, we all are, folks i know of as many $1500 showcats (don't get me started) who have keeled over with no warning as i do sick cats--loving them while we have them is all that really matters, because, no matter HOW long that is, it will NEVER be long enough how dare i assume that a cat who might only have a few weeks deserves love and companionship less than one with years? arh.. On 9/9/06, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On that note: The Royal Princess Kitty Katt was diagnosed with cancer that was so invasive I was told she would live maybe 2 months without chemo. We optedout of the chemo because of what she told me and several ACs I know and quality of life issues openly and honestly discussed with my vets. She lived almost 15 months and all but the last week was very high quality. She spent the last week or so saying goodbye to her first person. We can never be sure when they are leaving and we can not be sure when we are leaving. Worrying about it takes the life out of what life we have. The Royal Princess Kitty was the picture of health when she was diagnosed. She was being seen for something entirely different when the cancer was discovered. I learned so much from her and I miss her awfully but she is totally happy with her first man now and I envy her that happiness and peace. She did her job on earth wonderfully. Now she can rest with him. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Pam Norman To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 10:28 PM Subject: Re: To Leslie: Re: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p. Leslie, A wonderful tribute to Sushi what you she learned together. All of us should remember it, whether it is FeLV we are dealing with or any of the other kitty ills that can so easily reduce us to helpless fear. I was told that Ambrose, my first CRF kitty, who was diagnosed in 1997, would be gone in 6 months. He lived for 3 happy healthy years before dying of heart disease. Troika, who was diagnosed with fibrosarcoma in 2000, was given 9 months, lived for 6 more years cancer-free. Vets are good vets are jackasses. We should be careful about their pronouncements, regardless of which they are. After all, it's our kitty we know them better than anyone it's we who are committed to that kitty's life, be it for years or months. And that life can should be joyous, regardless of what the numbers say. Pam - Original Message - From: Leslie To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 1:09 PM Subject: Re: To Leslie: Re: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p. Thank you, Wendy! Message: 10Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 07:06:09 -0700 (PDT)From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: To Leslie: Re: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p.To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgMessage-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1Leslie-I loved this post.You are one cool cat.:)Wendy--- Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Kayte, My first FeLV+ cat was also the first cat that I ever owned on my own.I'd grown up with all sorts of critters, but it took a few years after graduating college to finally get in a situation where I could own my first all mine pet.I'd been wanting this cat forever. I found Sushi at a shelter, she was 2 years old and demanded that I take her home that very instant.I L-O-V-E-D that cat.The shelter had tested for leukemia and FIV before I adopted her and she'd tested negative.One month after having her home, she was very lethargic.I ran with her in a carrier to a vet that I'd seen near my apartment, but I'd never met.This was New York City (Queens), so not having a car, and not wanting to subject a cat to a subway ride, I was pretty limited in my vet choices.The vet was an ass. He had no bedside manner.Hemade me feel like the whole situation was my fault.He'd HAVE to rehydrate, he'd HAVE to do bloodwork, he'd HAVE to keep her during the day - like I wasn't going to be paying him for his efforts. I was in tears, which didn't make him respect me any more.Quite frankly, he scared the hell out of me, and as it's all of our deepest fears that it really IS our fault, I was a mess.He retested her for FeLV+ (she'd been rescued from a house full of cats, so may have been exposed close to rescue and the first testing).I took her home as she'd perked back up, the fluids really helped, and she rebounded fully.Despite this, when he called to tell me that she was positive and anemic and had maybe a month to live, told me to expect to see rapid deterioration, blah, blah
To Leslie: Re: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p.
Leslie- I loved this post. You are one cool cat. :) Wendy --- Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kayte, My first FeLV+ cat was also the first cat that I ever owned on my own. I'd grown up with all sorts of critters, but it took a few years after graduating college to finally get in a situation where I could own my first all mine pet. I'd been wanting this cat forever. I found Sushi at a shelter, she was 2 years old and demanded that I take her home that very instant. I L-O-V-E-D that cat. The shelter had tested for leukemia and FIV before I adopted her and she'd tested negative. One month after having her home, she was very lethargic. I ran with her in a carrier to a vet that I'd seen near my apartment, but I'd never met. This was New York City (Queens), so not having a car, and not wanting to subject a cat to a subway ride, I was pretty limited in my vet choices. The vet was an ass. He had no bedside manner. He made me feel like the whole situation was my fault. He'd HAVE to rehydrate, he'd HAVE to do bloodwork, he'd HAVE to keep her during the day - like I wasn't going to be paying him for his efforts. I was in tears, which didn't make him respect me any more. Quite frankly, he scared the hell out of me, and as it's all of our deepest fears that it really IS our fault, I was a mess. He retested her for FeLV+ (she'd been rescued from a house full of cats, so may have been exposed close to rescue and the first testing). I took her home as she'd perked back up, the fluids really helped, and she rebounded fully. Despite this, when he called to tell me that she was positive and anemic and had maybe a month to live, told me to expect to see rapid deterioration, blah, blah, blah, I was again distraught. The next week, against the back drop of her romping around and talking to herself, chasing bits of dust, knocking things over (her favorite was to knock my glass of water onto me at night), trying to escape, I called everyone that I knew hysterically telling them that my cat was dying. The vet said so. Eventually, emotionally spent. I hung up the phone, slumped down against the wall and lethargically, tearfully gazed over at her across the room. Making eye contact, she marched over and placed a World Cup worthy head butt against my pathetic forehead. I giggled. And I realized that I was being a dumass. Maybe she had this disease. Maybe she was dying, but who of us isn't? She wasn't dead, and I was wasting time being a melodramatic human. So instead of focusing on how she was going to die, I focused on how she was going to live. I didn't have any support, but I found a raw feeding list and, though I didn't switch to raw for a while, I started researching the feline diet. And I put her on a better food. And I moved into the city and found a good vet. I took her in for check-ups and loved the heck out of that cat until she passed two years after I'd adopted her of a heart attack (myocardial infarction). Yes, my life infarcted at that point, and I still miss my sweet marshmallow-y friend, who would lay on my arm at night and purr, and gaze into my eyes like she was proud of me. But she'd led me to another positive cat to adopt, Hepburn. And Hepburn led me to Satchmo that I have today (also positive). And Sushi, after all, after all that that jerk vet said, never did deterioriate. Never did succomb to the leukemia. I owned Hep for 2 1/2 years, she did die of FIP, which was probably leukemia related, but I'd gotten her as an older kitten, so even there, she was on the high end of her life expectency and she, too, was an amazing, happy, healthy cat until the end. Satch I've had for two years now, I adopted him at 5 years old, so we don't know when he was exposed to the virus, but he's the biggest, stompiest guy you'll ever have the pleasure of meeting, and other than being susceptible to URI's (which as long as I don't bring home sick kittens that already have URI's) hasn't been any problem. I have high hopes for him going a very long time. And I'm thinking of adopting him a friend - either a positive kitten or a negative adult cat - once he stops coughing. I know that this has been long, and work is piling up, but I just wanted to tell you my story. Let you know that I understand what you're feeling, but take your cues from Crackers. Is he laying around in dirty pajamas, watching Ricki Lake, stumbling amongst empty Chinese take out cartons, wondering why me? This is a terrible illness, but not one that is powerful enough to take the good times away while they are here. Get a new vet. Pinpoint when Crackers was exposed. What happened to Pokemon? Was she positive? Put Crackers on a good diet - there are lots to choose from ranging from Max Cat to raw feeding - expensive doesn't always mean good, nor does the fact of it being sold out of
Re: To Leslie: Re: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p.
Thank you, Wendy! Message: 10Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 07:06:09 -0700 (PDT)From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: To Leslie: Re: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p.To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgMessage-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1Leslie-I loved this post.You are one cool cat.:)Wendy--- Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Kayte, My first FeLV+ cat was also the first cat that I ever owned on my own.I'd grown up with all sorts of critters, but it took a few years after graduating college to finally get in a situation where I could own my first all mine pet.I'd been wanting this cat forever. I found Sushi at a shelter, she was 2 years old and demanded that I take her home that very instant.I L-O-V-E-D that cat.The shelter had tested for leukemia and FIV before I adopted her and she'd tested negative.One month after having her home, she was very lethargic.I ran with her in a carrier to a vet that I'd seen near my apartment, but I'd never met.This was New York City (Queens), so not having a car, and not wanting to subject a cat to a subway ride, I was pretty limited in my vet choices.The vet was an ass. He had no bedside manner.Hemade me feel like the whole situation was my fault.He'd HAVE to rehydrate, he'd HAVE to do bloodwork, he'd HAVE to keep her during the day - like I wasn't going to be paying him for his efforts. I was in tears, which didn't make him respect me any more.Quite frankly, he scared the hell out of me, and as it's all of our deepest fears that it really IS our fault, I was a mess.He retested her for FeLV+ (she'd been rescued from a house full of cats, so may have been exposed close to rescue and the first testing).I took her home as she'd perked back up, the fluids really helped, and she rebounded fully.Despite this, when he called to tell me that she was positive and anemic and had maybe a month to live, told me to expect to see rapid deterioration, blah, blah, blah, I was again distraught.The next week, against the back drop of her romping around and talking to herself, chasing bits of dust, knocking things over (her favorite was to knock my glass of water onto me at night), trying to escape, I called everyone that I knew hysterically telling them that my cat was dying.The vet said so. Eventually, emotionally spent.I hung up the phone, slumped down against the wall and lethargically, tearfully gazed over at her across the room. Making eye contact, she marched over and placed a World Cup worthy head butt against my pathetic forehead.I giggled. And I realized that I was being a dumass.Maybe she had this disease. Maybe she was dying, but who of us isn't?She wasn't dead, and I was wasting time being a melodramatic human.So instead of focusing on how she was going to die, I focused on how she was going to live.I didn't have any support, but I found a raw feeding list and, though I didn't switch to raw for a while, I started researching the feline diet. And I put her on a better food.And I moved into the city and found a good vet.I took her in for check-ups and loved the heck out of that cat until she passed two years after I'd adopted her of a heart attack (myocardial infarction).Yes, my life infarcted at that point, and I still miss my sweet marshmallow-y friend, who would lay on my arm at night and purr, and gaze into my eyes like she was proud of me.But she'd led me to another positive cat to adopt, Hepburn.And Hepburn led me to Satchmo that I have today (also positive).And Sushi, after all, after all that that jerk vet said, never did deterioriate.Never did succomb to the leukemia. I owned Hep for 2 1/2 years, she did die of FIP, which was probably leukemia related, but I'd gotten her as an older kitten, so even there, she was on the high end of her life expectency and she, too, was an amazing, happy, healthy cat until the end. Satch I've had for two years now, I adopted him at 5 years old, so we don't know when he was exposed to the virus, but he's the biggest, stompiest guy you'll ever have the pleasure of meeting, and other than being susceptible to URI's (which as long as I don't bring home sick kittens that already have URI's) hasn't been any problem.I have high hopes for him going a very long time.And I'm thinking of adopting him a friend - either a positive kitten or a negative adult cat - once he stops coughing. I know that this has been long, and work is piling up, but I just wanted to tell you my story.Let you know that I understand what you're feeling, but take your cues from Crackers.Is he laying around in dirty pajamas, watching Ricki Lake, stumbling amongst empty Chinese take out cartons, wondering why me?This is a terrible illness, but not one that is powerful enough to take the good times away while they are here. Get a new vet.Pinpoint when Crackers was exposed. What happened to Pokemon?Was she positive?Put Crackers on a good diet - there are lots to choose from ranging from Max Cat to raw feeding - expensive
Re: To Leslie: Re: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p.
Leslie - that was an inspired post - thank you for the reminder ~ Evan --- Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kayte, My first FeLV+ cat was also the first cat that I ever owned on my own. I'd grown up with all sorts of critters, but it took a few years after graduating college to finally get in a situation where I could own my first all mine pet. I'd been wanting this cat forever. I found Sushi at a shelter, she was 2 years old and demanded that I take her home that very instant. I L-O-V-E-D that cat. The shelter had tested for leukemia and FIV before I adopted her and she'd tested negative. One month after having her home, she was very lethargic. I ran with her in a carrier to a vet that I'd seen near my apartment, but I'd never met. This was New York City (Queens), so not having a car, and not wanting to subject a cat to a subway ride, I was pretty limited in my vet choices. The vet was an ass. He had no bedside manner. He made me feel like the whole situation was my fault. He'd HAVE to rehydrate, he'd HAVE to do bloodwork, he'd HAVE to keep her during the day - like I wasn't going to be paying him for his efforts. I was in tears, which didn't make him respect me any more. Quite frankly, he scared the hell out of me, and as it's all of our deepest fears that it really IS our fault, I was a mess. He retested her for FeLV+ (she'd been rescued from a house full of cats, so may have been exposed close to rescue and the first testing). I took her home as she'd perked back up, the fluids really helped, and she rebounded fully. Despite this, when he called to tell me that she was positive and anemic and had maybe a month to live, told me to expect to see rapid deterioration, blah, blah, blah, I was again distraught. The next week, against the back drop of her romping around and talking to herself, chasing bits of dust, knocking things over (her favorite was to knock my glass of water onto me at night), trying to escape, I called everyone that I knew hysterically telling them that my cat was dying. The vet said so. Eventually, emotionally spent. I hung up the phone, slumped down against the wall and lethargically, tearfully gazed over at her across the room. Making eye contact, she marched over and placed a World Cup worthy head butt against my pathetic forehead. I giggled. And I realized that I was being a dumass. Maybe she had this disease. Maybe she was dying, but who of us isn't? She wasn't dead, and I was wasting time being a melodramatic human. So instead of focusing on how she was going to die, I focused on how she was going to live. I didn't have any support, but I found a raw feeding list and, though I didn't switch to raw for a while, I started researching the feline diet. And I put her on a better food. And I moved into the city and found a good vet. I took her in for check-ups and loved the heck out of that cat until she passed two years after I'd adopted her of a heart attack (myocardial infarction). Yes, my life infarcted at that point, and I still miss my sweet marshmallow-y friend, who would lay on my arm at night and purr, and gaze into my eyes like she was proud of me. But she'd led me to another positive cat to adopt, Hepburn. And Hepburn led me to Satchmo that I have today (also positive). And Sushi, after all, after all that that jerk vet said, never did deterioriate. Never did succomb to the leukemia. I owned Hep for 2 1/2 years, she did die of FIP, which was probably leukemia related, but I'd gotten her as an older kitten, so even there, she was on the high end of her life expectency and she, too, was an amazing, happy, healthy cat until the end. Satch I've had for two years now, I adopted him at 5 years old, so we don't know when he was exposed to the virus, but he's the biggest, stompiest guy you'll ever have the pleasure of meeting, and other than being susceptible to URI's (which as long as I don't bring home sick kittens that already have URI's) hasn't been any problem. I have high hopes for him going a very long time. And I'm thinking of adopting him a friend - either a positive kitten or a negative adult cat - once he stops coughing. I know that this has been long, and work is piling up, but I just wanted to tell you my story. Let you know that I understand what you're feeling, but take your cues from Crackers. Is he laying around in dirty pajamas, watching Ricki Lake, stumbling amongst empty Chinese take out cartons, wondering why me? This is a terrible illness, but not one that is powerful enough to take the good times away while they are here. Get a new vet. Pinpoint when Crackers was exposed. What happened to Pokemon? Was she positive? Put Crackers on a good diet - there are lots to choose from ranging from Max Cat to raw feeding - expensive doesn't always mean good, nor does the fact of it being sold out of a vet's office. Do some reading about which ingredients should be there and which shouldn't. A lot of people
Re: To Leslie: Re: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p.
Leslie, A wonderful tribute to Sushi what you she learned together. All of us should remember it, whether it is FeLV we are dealing with or any of the other kitty ills that can so easily reduce us to helpless fear. I was told that Ambrose, my first CRF kitty, who was diagnosed in 1997, would be gone in 6 months. He lived for 3 happy healthy years before dying of heart disease. Troika, who was diagnosed with fibrosarcoma in 2000, was given 9 months, lived for 6 more years cancer-free. Vets are good vets are jackasses. We should be careful about their pronouncements, regardless of which they are. After all, it's our kitty we know them better than anyone it's we who are committed to that kitty's life, be it for years or months. And that life can should be joyous, regardless of what the numbers say. Pam - Original Message - From: Leslie To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, September 08, 2006 1:09 PM Subject: Re: To Leslie: Re: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p. Thank you, Wendy! Message: 10Date: Fri, 8 Sep 2006 07:06:09 -0700 (PDT)From: wendy [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: To Leslie: Re: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p.To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgMessage-ID: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1Leslie-I loved this post.You are one cool cat.:)Wendy--- Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Kayte, My first FeLV+ cat was also the first cat that I ever owned on my own.I'd grown up with all sorts of critters, but it took a few years after graduating college to finally get in a situation where I could own my first "all mine" pet.I'd been wanting this cat forever. I found Sushi at a shelter, she was 2 years old and demanded that I take her home that very instant.I L-O-V-E-D that cat.The shelter had tested for leukemia and FIV before I adopted her and she'd tested negative.One month after having her home, she was very lethargic.I ran with her in a carrier to a vet that I'd seen near my apartment, but I'd never met.This was New York City (Queens), so not having a car, and not wanting to subject a cat to a subway ride, I was pretty limited in my vet choices.The vet was an ass. He had no bedside manner.Hemade me feel like the whole situation was my fault.He'd HAVE to rehydrate, he'd HAVE to do bloodwork, he'd HAVE to keep her during the day - like I wasn't going to be paying him for his efforts. I was in tears, which didn't make him respect me any more.Quite frankly, he scared the hell out of me, and as it's all of our deepest fears that it really IS our fault, I was a mess.He retested her for FeLV+ (she'd been rescued from a house full of cats, so may have been exposed close to rescue and the first testing).I took her home as she'd perked back up, the fluids really helped, and she rebounded fully.Despite this, when he called to tell me that she was positive and anemic and had "maybe" a month to live, told me to expect to see rapid deterioration, blah, blah, blah, I was again distraught.The next week, against the back drop of her romping around and talking to herself, chasing bits of dust, knocking things over (her favorite was to knock my glass of water onto me at night), trying to escape, I called everyone that I knew hysterically telling them that my cat was dying.The vet said so. Eventually, emotionally spent.I hung up the phone, slumped down against the wall and lethargically, tearfully gazed over at her across the room. Making eye contact, she marched over and placed a World Cup worthy head butt against my pathetic forehead.I giggled. And I realized that I was being a dumass.Maybe she had this disease. Maybe she was dying, but who of us isn't?She wasn't dead, and I was wasting time being a melodramatic human.So instead of focusing on how she was going to die, I focused on how she was going to live.I didn't have any support, but I found a raw feeding list and, though I didn't switch to raw for a while, I started researching the feline diet. And I put her on a better food.And I moved into the city and found a good vet.I took her in for check-ups and loved the heck out of that cat until she passed two years after I'd adopted her of a heart attack (myocardial infarction).Yes, my life infarcted at that point, and I still miss my sweet marshmallow-y friend, who would lay on my arm at night and purr, and gaze into my eyes like she was proud of me.But she'd led me to another positive cat to adopt, Hepburn.And Hepburn led me to Satchmo that I have today (also positive).And Sushi, after all, after all that that jerk vet said, never did deterioria
Re: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p.
You have NO reason to give up on Crackers. If he's healthy he may live a long and healthy life. The vet has no way of knowing if Crackers will ever even get sick from the felv. He may not.tonya[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: after i called the vet over 20 times he finally answered and said yes crackers IFA is positivei asked him can he throw the virus...the vet said no the IFA confirms he is full blown luekemia...i said what should i do,...he said there is nothing to do...my baby crackers is 5yrs old and has never been sick ever with anything and I WONT GIVE UP!!!...i cant believe this vet..MAKE THAT MY EX VET...i am looking for another vet and will not go back to him...ok you wonderful people are my guardians..i will do anything suggested..money is not a factor when it comes to my baby...i will do anything please respond please is this IFA final or should i retest? kayte
RE: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p.
Welcome! You will find a lot of very knowledgable people here. My two little girls are 10 months old and, according to conventional wisdom, shouldn't be here. My vet was surprised when I didn't want to euthanize them when they were diagnosed - one in May and the other in July, she had never had anyone who wanted to keep them. She is now very supportive and actually used my circumstances to talk another cat's owner into not euthanizing. My impression is that people think cats with FELV are suffering when that's not the case (unless, of course, they've picked up a virus or a disease that is causing them to suffer). I feed my girls a healthy diet, try to keep their lives pretty stress free and just let them be kittens. So far it's working. If I had the time I would go back and find out who in this group posted this first (I feel like quite the plagarist), but someone out there said that cats don't live for the future because they don't know what the future is. They don't know they are sick unless you fret and cry over them (which I certainly did at first!). They live for the moment and in the moment and whatever you can do to make that moment great is what matters most. Good luck to you and Crackers! I hope you live longhealthy lives together! Maggie
Re: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p.
Kayte, My first FeLV+ cat was also the first cat that I ever owned on my own. I'd grown up with all sorts of critters, but it took a few years after graduating college to finally get in a situation where I could own my first all mine pet. I'd been wanting this cat forever. I found Sushi at a shelter, she was 2 years old and demanded that I take her home that very instant. I L-O-V-E-D that cat. The shelter had tested for leukemia and FIV before I adopted her and she'd tested negative. One month after having her home, she was very lethargic. I ran with her in a carrier to a vet that I'd seen near my apartment, but I'd never met. This was New York City (Queens), so not having a car, and not wanting to subject a cat to a subway ride, I was pretty limited in my vet choices. The vet was an ass. He had no bedside manner. He made me feel like the whole situation was my fault. He'd HAVE to rehydrate, he'd HAVE to do bloodwork, he'd HAVE to keep her during the day - like I wasn't going to be paying him for his efforts. I was in tears, which didn't make him respect me any more. Quite frankly, he scared the hell out of me, and as it's all of our deepest fears that it really IS our fault, I was a mess. He retested her for FeLV+ (she'd been rescued from a house full of cats, so may have been exposed close to rescue and the first testing). I took her home as she'd perked back up, the fluids really helped, and she rebounded fully. Despite this, when he called to tell me that she was positive and anemic and had maybe a month to live, told me to expect to see rapid deterioration, blah, blah, blah, I was again distraught. The next week, against the back drop of her romping around and talking to herself, chasing bits of dust, knocking things over (her favorite was to knock my glass of water onto me at night), trying to escape, I called everyone that I knew hysterically telling them that my cat was dying. The vet said so. Eventually, emotionally spent. I hung up the phone, slumped down against the wall and lethargically, tearfully gazed over at her across the room. Making eye contact, she marched over and placed a World Cup worthy head butt against my pathetic forehead. I giggled. And I realized that I was being a dumass. Maybe she had this disease. Maybe she was dying, but who of us isn't? She wasn't dead, and I was wasting time being a melodramatic human. So instead of focusing on how she was going to die, I focused on how she was going to live. I didn't have any support, but I found a raw feeding list and, though I didn't switch to raw for a while, I started researching the feline diet. And I put her on a better food. And I moved into the city and found a good vet. I took her in for check-ups and loved the heck out of that cat until she passed two years after I'd adopted her of a heart attack (myocardial infarction). Yes, my life infarcted at that point, and I still miss my sweet marshmallow-y friend, who would lay on my arm at night and purr, and gaze into my eyes like she was proud of me. But she'd led me to another positive cat to adopt, Hepburn. And Hepburn led me to Satchmo that I have today (also positive). And Sushi, after all, after all that that jerk vet said, never did deterioriate. Never did succomb to the leukemia. I owned Hep for 2 1/2 years, she did die of FIP, which was probably leukemia related, but I'd gotten her as an older kitten, so even there, she was on the high end of her life expectency and she, too, was an amazing, happy, healthy cat until the end. Satch I've had for two years now, I adopted him at 5 years old, so we don't know when he was exposed to the virus, but he's the biggest, stompiest guy you'll ever have the pleasure of meeting, and other than being susceptible to URI's (which as long as I don't bring home sick kittens that already have URI's) hasn't been any problem. I have high hopes for him going a very long time. And I'm thinking of adopting him a friend - either a positive kitten or a negative adult cat - once he stops coughing. I know that this has been long, and work is piling up, but I just wanted to tell you my story. Let you know that I understand what you're feeling, but take your cues from Crackers. Is he laying around in dirty pajamas, watching Ricki Lake, stumbling amongst empty Chinese take out cartons, wondering why me? This is a terrible illness, but not one that is powerful enough to take the good times away while they are here. Get a new vet. Pinpoint when Crackers was exposed. What happened to Pokemon? Was she positive? Put Crackers on a good diet - there are lots to choose from ranging from Max Cat to raw feeding - expensive doesn't always mean good, nor does the fact of it being sold out of a vet's office. Do some reading about which ingredients should be there and which shouldn't. A lot of people supplement, again anywhere from Vitamin C to ImmunoReglin. There is no one path to follow, just make sure that you and Crackers are happy on the one that
Re: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p.
I would call around and try to find a vet that has or is treating other cats with the virus. I had to change vets with my cat Smokey because the vet I had been using for 15 years didn't seem to want to treat him. I don't know alot about the virus as Smokey is the first cat I have had that was positive. The new vet has told me that it is possible for a cat to fight off the virus. It may be a low percentage but there is a chance. I just had Smokey retested after 7 months unfortunatley he was still positive. Is Crackers sick now? Is that why you had Crackers tested? Cindy --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: after i called the vet over 20 times he finally answered and said yes crackers IFA is positivei asked him can he throw the virus...the vet said no the IFA confirms he is full blown luekemia...i said what should i do,...he said there is nothing to do...my baby crackers is 5yrs old and has never been sick ever with anything and I WONT GIVE UP!!!...i cant believe this vet..MAKE THAT MY EX VET...i am looking for another vet and will not go back to him...ok you wonderful people are my guardians..i will do anything suggested..money is not a factor when it comes to my baby...i will do anything please respond please is this IFA final or should i retest? kayte __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p.
On 9/5/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am located in new jersey..south jersey..when i first found pokemon she was skinny but showed no sick symptoms at all...she had a pink collar on and was so friendly and her fur very long was clean and she smelled so good...she was hungry and in a few months plumped up but still was small...i posted her on the web as a found cat..and checked the newspaper for lost cats she had 8 toes on each foot and i couldn't find the owner...after a while she became part of our family...loved to play and purr and she loved water and LOVED to eat...i was so naive..now my stomach is in knots because i blame myself for cracker sickness...my vet x vet is terrible basically says to throw in the towel but i cant..he told me i am just in denial and there is nothing to do...he didn't mention anything about blood test to count cells or anything...i have read every post on here im thinking about sending it to him the fool I wish you had found us before Pokemon was PTS, but please, please find a better vet. I live in Texas but perhaps someone can recommend one in your area? -- Vist the Austin Siamese Rescue store and save a kitty life!http://www.cafepress.com/austinsiamese http://astore.amazon.com/austinsiamese-20
Re: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p.
Leslie, You made me spit out my Diet Coke! I often wonder if they are sitting at home with their paws propped up on my coffee table, if they are it's not out of self pity, it's more out of feeling entitled. I suspect they are more into Oprah then Ricki, but you never know. You have a great attitude! Maggie -- Original message -- From: Leslie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kayte, My first FeLV+ cat was also the first cat that I ever owned on my own. I'd grown up with all sorts of critters, but it took a few years after graduating college to finally get in a situation where I could own my first "all mine" pet. I'd been wanting this cat forever. I found Sushi at a shelter, she was 2 years old and demanded that I take her home that very instant. I L-O-V-E-D that cat. The shelter had tested for leukemia and FIV before I adopted her and she'd tested negative. One month after having her home, she was very lethargic. I ran with her in a carrier to a vet that I'd seen near my apartment, but I'd never met. This was New York City (Queens), so not having a car, and not wanting to subject a cat to a subway ride, I was pretty limited in my vet choices. The vet was an ass. He had no bedside manner. He made me feel like the whole situation was my fault. He'd HAVE to rehydrate, he'd HAVE to do bloodwork, he'd HAVE to keep her during the day - like I wasn't going to be paying him for his efforts. I was in tears, which didn't make him respect me any more. Quite frankly, he scared the hell out of me, and as it's all of our deepest fears that it really IS our fault , I was a mess. He retested her for FeLV+ (she'd been rescued from a house full of cats, so may have been exposed close to rescue and the first testing). I took her home as she'd perked back up, the fluids really helped, and she rebounded fully. Despite this, when he called to tell me that she was positive and anemic and had "maybe" a month to live, told me to expect to see rapid deterioration, blah, blah, blah, I was again distraught. The next week, against the back drop of her romping around and talking to herself, chasing bits of dust, knocking things over (her favorite was to knock my glass of water onto me at night), trying to escape, I called everyone that I knew hysterically telling them that my cat was dying. The vet said so. Eventually, emotionally spent. I hung up the phone, slumped down against the wall and lethargically, tearfully gazed over at her across the room. Making eye contact, she marched over and placed a World Cup worthy head butt against my pathetic forehead. I giggled. And I realized that I was being a dumass. Maybe she had this disease. Maybe she was dying, but who of us isn't? She wasn't dead, and I was wasting time being a melodramatic human. So instead of focusing on how she was going to die, I focused on how she was going to live. I didn't have any support, but I found a raw feeding list and, though I didn't switch to raw for a while, I started researching the feline diet. And I put her on a better food. And I moved into the city and found a good vet. I took her in for check-ups and loved the heck out of that cat until she passed two years after I'd adopted her of a heart attack (myocardial infarction). Yes, my life infarcted at that point, and I still miss my sweet marshmallow-y friend, who would lay on my arm at night and purr, and gaze into my eyes like she was proud of me. But she'd led me to another positive cat to adopt, Hepburn. And Hepburn led me to Satchmo that I have today (also positive). And Sushi, after all, after all that that jerk vet said, never did deterioriate. Never did succomb to the leukemia. I owned Hep for 2 1/2 years, she did die of FIP, which was probably leukemia related, but I'd gotten her as an older kitten, so even there, she was on the high end of her life expectency and she, too, was an amazing, happy, healthy cat until the end. Satch I've had for two years now, I adopted him at 5 years old, so we don't know when he was exposed to the virus, but he's the biggest, stompiest guy you'll ever have the pleasure of meeting, and other than being susceptible to URI's (which as long as I don't bring home sick kittens that already have URI's) hasn't been any problem. I have high hopes for him going a very long time. And I'm thinking of adopting him a friend - either a positive kitten or a negative adult cat - once he stops coughing. I know that this has been long, and work is piling up, but I just wanted to tell you my story. Let you know that I understand what you're feeling, but take your cues from Crackers. Is he laying around in dirty pajamas, watching Ricki Lake, stumbling amongst empty Chinese take out cartons, wondering "why me?" This is a terrible illness, but not one that is powerful enough to take the good times away while they are here. Get a new vet. Pinpoint when Crackers was exposed. What happened to Pokemon? Was she positive? Put Crackers on a good diet - there are lots
Re: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p.
FYI Leslie, FIP is totally unrelated to FELV, so Hepburn didn't succumb to the FELV either. :) http://www.vet.cornell.edu/fhc/resources/brochure/fip.html "Is FIP related to feline leukemia? FIP and feline leukemia are caused by different viruses. Some cats that have FIP may also be infected by the feline leukemia virus, but the diseases are two separate entities." Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.htmlSpecial Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html Please shop online through i-give and support the Feline Veterinary Emergency Assistance Program:http://www.igive.com/FVEAP Shop at GREAT stores, like Drs. Foster Smith, Pet Food Direct, Musician's Friend, and LOTS more!It doesn't cost you a single penny more, and it makes so much difference to a sick cat in need! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/438 - Release Date: 9/5/2006
Re: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p.
Hi Kayte, Since you only had Pokemon since last Oct, and she didn't appear to be sick when you got her (at least that's what I assume - otherwise you wouldn't have mixed the 2 cats?), it could very well be that Pokemon didn't flare up until just recently and therefore Crackers is testing positive because he was just recently exposed. Since Crackers seems to be a healthy 5 yo, he could very well throw the virus off. I would look for another vet - where are you located? Kat (Mew Jersey) On Tue, 5 Sep 2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Date: Tue, 5 Sep 2006 16:41:09 EDT From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p. after i called the vet over 20 times he finally answered and said yes crackers IFA is positivei asked him can he throw the virus...the vet said no the IFA confirms he is full blown luekemia...i said what should i do,...he said there is nothing to do...my baby crackers is 5yrs old and has never been sick ever with anything and I WONT GIVE UP!!!...i cant believe this vet..MAKE THAT MY EX VET...i am looking for another vet and will not go back to him...ok you wonderful people are my guardians..i will do anything suggested..money is not a factor when it comes to my baby...i will do anything please respond please is this IFA final or should i retest? kayte
RE: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p.
Kayte -- The first thing you should do is BREATHE. ;-) And then relax. If this is the same vet who had to look in a book about the other test, yes, you should seek a more knowledgeable vet, and probably have a retest. But since Crackers isn't sick now, you're one step ahead of a lot of people who discover they have an FeLV+ cat. You can keep your baby healthy for many years to come by following the advice of the lovely people on this list. (I can't give you a lot of practicaladvice firsthand, being new to FeLV myself.I tookin a stray, Patches, who turned out to be FeLV+ and losthim less than 2 months after we met him, but in that short time I got loads of great advice and ENCOURAGEMENT from this list. I haven't been able to bring myself to unsubscribe, everybody is so nice). I know everybody will give you tons of ideas to keep Crackers healthy and happy. Your vet is an idiot for saying nothing can be done. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 3:41 PMTo: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p. after i called the vet over 20 times he finally answered and said yes crackers IFA is positivei asked him can he throw the virus...the vet said no the IFA confirms he is full blown luekemia...i said what should i do,...he said there is nothing to do...my baby crackers is 5yrs old and has never been sick ever with anything and I WONT GIVE UP!!!...i cant believe this vet..MAKE THAT MY EX VET...i am looking for another vet and will not go back to him...ok you wonderful people are my guardians..i will do anything suggested..money is not a factor when it comes to my baby...i will do anything please respond please is this IFA final or should i retest? kayte This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
Re: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p.
I think your vet is a quack. Crackers cannot have full blown leukemia if he is showing no symptoms. DO NOT PANIC. Calm down. Crackers is going to pick up on you being upset and it will upset him too. The best thing you can do is calm down and find a better vet. Use the phone to do it. Keep us posted. :) Wendy --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: after i called the vet over 20 times he finally answered and said yes crackers IFA is positivei asked him can he throw the virus...the vet said no the IFA confirms he is full blown luekemia...i said what should i do,...he said there is nothing to do...my baby crackers is 5yrs old and has never been sick ever with anything and I WONT GIVE UP!!!...i cant believe this vet..MAKE THAT MY EX VET...i am looking for another vet and will not go back to him...ok you wonderful people are my guardians..i will do anything suggested..money is not a factor when it comes to my baby...i will do anything please respond please is this IFA final or should i retest? kayte __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p.
I just hate those vet stories - there are so many out there. I use interferon alpha, 30 units daily, for each of my FELV cats. However, it's worth checking into interferon omega (expensive, hard to get I hear) and immunoregulin. Sorry I can't be of more help. Best of luck, Gloria - Original Message - From: kelly To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 5:05 PM Subject: Re: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p. At 01:41 PM 9/5/2006, you wrote:According to my vet,,,he can still clear the virus,,,she suggests re testing again in 5 or so months...Sounds like your vet may need a refresher course,,,I have dealt with vets like that so i am not surprised, they just do not bother to keep currentMy friends FELV cat is over 15 Kelly after i called the vet over 20 times he finally answered and said yes crackers IFA is positivei asked him can he throw the virus...the vet said no the IFA confirms he is full blown luekemia...i said what should i do,...he said there is nothing to do...my baby crackers is 5yrs old and has never been sick ever with anything and I WONT GIVE UP!!!...i cant believe this vet..MAKE THAT MY EX VET...i am looking for another vet and will not go back to him...ok you wonderful people are my guardians..i will do anything suggested..money is not a factor when it comes to my baby...i will do anything please respond please is this IFA final or should i retest?kayteNo virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/437 - Release Date: 9/4/2006
Re: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p.
I am located in new jersey..south jersey..when i first found pokemon she was skinny but showed no sick symptoms at all...she had a pink collar on and was so friendly and her fur very long was clean and she smelled so good...she was hungry and in a few months plumped up but still was small...i posted her on the web as a found cat..and checked the newspaper for lost cats she had 8 toes on each foot and i couldn't find the owner...after a while she became part of our family...loved to play and purr and she loved water and LOVED to eat...i was so naive..now my stomach is in knots because i blame myself for cracker sickness...my vet x vet is terrible basically says to throw in the towel but i cant..he told me i am just in denial and there is nothing to do...he didn't mention anything about blood test to count cells or anything...i have read every post on here im thinking about sending it to him the fool
RE: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p.
Hi, I am not sure exactly what you are looking for I have two felk kitties who are positive and they are both asymptomatic I just watch them closely. Are you looking for a home for your kitty? From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 5:50 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p. I am located in new jersey..south jersey..when i first found pokemon she was skinny but showed no sick symptoms at all...she had a pink collar on and was so friendly and her fur very long was clean and she smelled so good...she was hungry and in a few months plumped up but still was small...i posted her on the web as a found cat..and checked the newspaper for lost cats she had 8 toes on each foot and i couldn't find the owner...after a while she became part of our family...loved to play and purr and she loved water and LOVED to eat...i was so naive..now my stomach is in knots because i blame myself for cracker sickness...my vet x vet is terrible basically says to throw in the towel but i cant..he told me i am just in denial and there is nothing to do...he didn't mention anything about blood test to count cells or anything...i have read every post on here im thinking about sending it to him the fool
Re: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p.
At 04:49 PM 9/5/2006, you wrote: I know you can't share his name, but we could all send him little polite notes to get him current, meanwhile there are many wonderful helpful vets out there who would never dream of doing or saying what he did,,, Please do not blame yourself,,We have all been there and you just did a kind thing, I guess just like when I offered to help this girl out with her cat until she moved,,she though he had been tested, Well , he is positive,,but the girl and her Max deserve good care so Max is here for the next 10 months and getting very spoiled, I am starting him on Immuno regulin, and did you see the post about Sam -E from the doctor. It is easy to do,,cheap and no rx is needed, I think if you had know Pokeman was positive you would have cared for her anyway..just kept them separate, Did Crackers ever receive the vaccine?? Kelly I am located in new jersey..south jersey..when i first found pokemon she was skinny but showed no sick symptoms at all...she had a pink collar on and was so friendly and her fur very long was clean and she smelled so good...she was hungry and in a few months plumped up but still was small...i posted her on the web as a found cat..and checked the newspaper for lost cats she had 8 toes on each foot and i couldn't find the owner...after a while she became part of our family...loved to play and purr and she loved water and LOVED to eat...i was so naive..now my stomach is in knots because i blame myself for cracker sickness...my vet x vet is terrible basically says to throw in the towel but i cant..he told me i am just in denial and there is nothing to do...he didn't mention anything about blood test to count cells or anything...i have read every post on here im thinking about sending it to him the fool No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/437 - Release Date: 9/4/2006
RE: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p.
First offdont blame yourself for Crackers testing pos. I would bet that shes always been pos but just asymptomatic, just like my Tucson! As for that vet, or ex-vet, well lose him! Wish I knew somebody in south jersey If nothing else pans out, try the yellow pages and just call each one. Ask what their experience in treating FELV+ cats. Theres also a couple of FELV sanctuaries in NJ==cant think of names but it might be worth asking who they use as vets. Both Pokemon and Crackers are VERY lucky to have you-- Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 7:50 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p. I am located in new jersey..south jersey..when i first found pokemon she was skinny but showed no sick symptoms at all...she had a pink collar on and was so friendly and her fur very long was clean and she smelled so good...she was hungry and in a few months plumped up but still was small...i posted her on the web as a found cat..and checked the newspaper for lost cats she had 8 toes on each foot and i couldn't find the owner...after a while she became part of our family...loved to play and purr and she loved water and LOVED to eat...i was so naive..now my stomach is in knots because i blame myself for cracker sickness...my vet x vet is terrible basically says to throw in the towel but i cant..he told me i am just in denial and there is nothing to do...he didn't mention anything about blood test to count cells or anything...i have read every post on here im thinking about sending it to him the fool
Re: crackers IFA was positive need help a.s.a.p.
IFA is not final. Retest in 3 months. Until then feed good food, supplement with vitamin C. Until then read all the posts here, you will learn MUCH from just reading other's posts and asking questions about them when you get lost. Even if he is permanently positive, that's NO reason to just throw in the towel, there are LOTS of treatment options these days! Phaewryn Please adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html Low cost SpayNeuter services in VT, and Emergency Financial Assistance for cat owners:http://ucat.us/VermontLowCost.htmlSpecial Needs Cat Resources: http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html The Sofa Poem: http://ucat.us/sofapoem.html Please shop online through i-give and support the Feline Veterinary Emergency Assistance Program:http://www.igive.com/FVEAP Shop at GREAT stores, like Drs. Foster Smith, Pet Food Direct, Musician's Friend, and LOTS more!It doesn't cost you a single penny more, and it makes so much difference to a sick cat in need! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.11.7/437 - Release Date: 9/4/2006
