Re: Update 08/23/07
I agree. IF your other cat has been vaccinated I would not bother separating at this point. If she is not vaccinated I would separate her until you get in her vacc. and booster, and maybe a little longer. How old is she? How long was she with your positives? I would not worry about bleaching food bowls if you feel a need to do so. I have positives and negatives mixed together and they use the same dishes. If/when you use bleach to clean, just dilute it a bit, rinse well and let the dishes dry well before using them. Drying out in the sunshine is best if possible when using bleach. tonya wendy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Hey Michael, If they won't eat the wet Evo, you can mix it with some baby food (Del Monte or Beech Nut are good, chicken flavor or any of the meats) and maybe the can be switched over that way. Some people might not agree with me, but I think at this point, Penelope has already been exposed (how long were they living together before the diagnosis?). If she was, she has thrown the virus. Adult cats are very resistant against the virus from what we've seen here. How old are all your furbabies? I would be surprised if Grizzabella gave it to Poppy. Did you have Poppy tested when you first adopted him? It's possible they both already had it when you adopted them. I never separated mine. Cricket was our positive and Julie, LuLu, and Pepper are my negatives. They lived together two years before I knew about the diagnosis, and two years after. They shared the same litter box and food/water bowls. No one ever became positive. The infrared collars are a good idea, but honestly Michael, it's probably a moot point. I can't swear by it, but I would live by it. I would really be careful about the bleaching of food and water bowls. In fact, I wouldn't. I would be so scared that I was slowly poisoning them. I would ask about that as a subject specifically. Let us know how the vet visit/referral goes. :) Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Building a website is a piece of cake. Yahoo! Small Business gives you all the tools to get online.
Re: Update 08/23/07
Hi Michael, I will have to say I agree w/ Wendy I would just vaccinate Penny, and continue on. She has already had an exposure to the virus, but once again, this is just my opinion. You can see what UT has to say, but do what you feel is best. There was a time when I would have said, yes, separate them. But now that I know more about the disease, I probably would not separate them. (By the way, folks,if my typing is off it's because my keyboard is "sticking"...especially the space bar. Too many cat butts trying to type out a "howdy!" I think.) As far as the Evo moist, my felv+ won't touch it but the rest of the gang loves it. Wendy is right, baby is a good supplement, but I recommend staying away from the "ham" formula, seems I heard it has more salt than the other meats.. Susan J. DuBose >^..^< www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net "As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws." Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2007 7:54 PM Subject: Re: Update 08/23/07 Wendy, Here's the breakdown: I've had Grizzabella since 2001, and she was approximately a year old at that point, so she's about 7. She came from a rescue shelter that went terribly bad, but I'm almost certain I had her tested and she was negative at that time, because I remember she came with an awful URI when I got her. :( Poor thing. But what happened was she spent about three years with my mother. I had moved back home to help care for a terminally ill relative, and by the time she passed, Grizzabella had gotten so attached to mother and mother to she that I couldn't separate them. Bella came back to live with me after mother passed away in December 06. I think she likely contracted the FeLV while she was with mother, as she would often get outside, and mother wasn't able to chase her down. She went to the vet several times in that period for rabies shots and the like, but they never recommended FeLV vaccines, and I still don't know why. As for Poppy and Penny, I'm certain they were negative when I got them, as they came from Virginia Siamese Rescue. They were kittens, so at this point they're almost 2 1/2 years old, and Bella has only been here about 8-9 months, so I assume Poppy contracted it at somewhere around a year and a half to two years old. Penny tested negative on the ELISA. I'm going to take her back in 3-6 months and have her retested and insist on an IFA test. I say I'm certain they didn't have it when I adopted them because I know how thorough Va SRC is, especially with the fosters I got them from. I've gotten to know them, and I'm certain they tested. I guess its possible the test was a negative when I got them and they were in fact positive, but I kinda doubt it. I got poppy at approximately 12 weeks old, and Penny at approximately 8 weeks old. As for the bleaching...the food bowls are nonporous glazed porcelain, and they're bleached in the dishwasher, as dishwasher detergent has bleach in it. The drinkwell I can understand, though, being plastic. I usually dilute quite a bit, but I'll certainly stop if you all think it could cause more harm than do good. Thanks again! Michael -- Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL.com.
Re: Update 08/23/07
Wendy, Here's the breakdown: I've had Grizzabella since 2001, and she was approximately a year old at that point, so she's about 7. She came from a rescue shelter that went terribly bad, but I'm almost certain I had her tested and she was negative at that time, because I remember she came with an awful URI when I got her. :( Poor thing. But what happened was she spent about three years with my mother. I had moved back home to help care for a terminally ill relative, and by the time she passed, Grizzabella had gotten so attached to mother and mother to she that I couldn't separate them. Bella came back to live with me after mother passed away in December 06. I think she likely contracted the FeLV while she was with mother, as she would often get outside, and mother wasn't able to chase her down. She went to the vet several times in that period for rabies shots and the like, but they never recommended FeLV vaccines, and I still don't know why. As for Poppy and Penny, I'm certain they were negative when I got them, as they came from Virginia Siamese Rescue. They were kittens, so at this point they're almost 2 1/2 years old, and Bella has only been here about 8-9 months, so I assume Poppy contracted it at somewhere around a year and a half to two years old. Penny tested negative on the ELISA. I'm going to take her back in 3-6 months and have her retested and insist on an IFA test. I say I'm certain they didn't have it when I adopted them because I know how thorough Va SRC is, especially with the fosters I got them from. I've gotten to know them, and I'm certain they tested. I guess its possible the test was a negative when I got them and they were in fact positive, but I kinda doubt it. I got poppy at approximately 12 weeks old, and Penny at approximately 8 weeks old. As for the bleaching...the food bowls are nonporous glazed porcelain, and they're bleached in the dishwasher, as dishwasher detergent has bleach in it. The drinkwell I can understand, though, being plastic. I usually dilute quite a bit, but I'll certainly stop if you all think it could cause more harm than do good. Thanks again! Michael ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour
Re: Update 08/23/07
Hey Michael, If they won't eat the wet Evo, you can mix it with some baby food (Del Monte or Beech Nut are good, chicken flavor or any of the meats) and maybe the can be switched over that way. Some people might not agree with me, but I think at this point, Penelope has already been exposed (how long were they living together before the diagnosis?). If she was, she has thrown the virus. Adult cats are very resistant against the virus from what we've seen here. How old are all your furbabies? I would be surprised if Grizzabella gave it to Poppy. Did you have Poppy tested when you first adopted him? It's possible they both already had it when you adopted them. I never separated mine. Cricket was our positive and Julie, LuLu, and Pepper are my negatives. They lived together two years before I knew about the diagnosis, and two years after. They shared the same litter box and food/water bowls. No one ever became positive. The infrared collars are a good idea, but honestly Michael, it's probably a moot point. I can't swear by it, but I would live by it. I would really be careful about the bleaching of food and water bowls. In fact, I wouldn't. I would be so scared that I was slowly poisoning them. I would ask about that as a subject specifically. Let us know how the vet visit/referral goes. :) Wendy "Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has!" ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ Shape Yahoo! in your own image. Join our Network Research Panel today! http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7
