Re: [Finale] 2006b, GPO vs Non GPO sounds

2005-12-18 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 18.12.2005 Darcy James Argue wrote: Johannes, Finale's Setup Wizard *does* let you choose the exact GPO instrument you want. Sure, but with numerous problems: 1) After I leave the wizard, Finale will actually load all those instruments, which takes a long time if it is a large ensemble.

Re: [Finale] TAN: MIDITECH Roll'n play - anyone tried it?

2005-12-18 Thread Raymond Horton
Johannes Gebauer wrote: I wonder whether anyone has tried the MIDITECH Roll'n play MIDI keyboard. For those who don't know it: It is a 37 key MIDI keyboard which can be rolled up and is the most portable solution I know. All I need from it is reliable Speedy input, and I need something that

Re: [Finale] FinMac Sluggishness

2005-12-18 Thread Éric Dussault
Le 05-12-18 à 01:57, Darcy James Argue a écrit :If you are finding that FinMac2006b is slower overall than FinMac2005, definitely mention this to MacSupport. You might also want to encourage them to release a Fin2006c release that specifically addresses these delays. Finale 2006b is faster than

Re: [Finale] TAN: MIDITECH Roll'n play - anyone tried it?

2005-12-18 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 18.12.2005 Raymond Horton wrote: Hey, it looks cuter'n heck! Don't know anything about it - except I couldn't find it until I figured out it's actually MIDITECH _Play'n Roll_. You are of course correct, sorry about the confusion! For what it is worth, I certainly don't need it to be

Re: [Finale] 2006b, GPO vs Non GPO sounds

2005-12-18 Thread Neal Gittleman
We started with someone who wanted to use GPO instrumental sounds and non-GPO vocal sounds, right? I can think of two reasons for playback: proofreading and producing demo sound files. If it's for proofreading, it shouldn't matter what the sounds are, and organ or clarinet or whatever

Re: [Finale] TAN: MIDITECH Roll'n play - anyone tried it?

2005-12-18 Thread Javier Ruiz
I have a friend who has one keyboard exactly like that but without MIDI. It comes with a sound bank and a small loudspeaker. I have tried to play it and it is pretty decent. I am sure that it will be more than enough for speedy entry. It seems that one company is manufacturing the flexible

Re: [Finale] TAN: MIDITECH Roll'n play - anyone tried it?

2005-12-18 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Raymond Horton / 2005/12/18 / 07:31 AM wrote: Hey, it looks cuter'n heck! Don't know anything about it - except I couldn't find it until I figured out it's actually MIDITECH _Play'n Roll_. http://www.music-town.de/cgi-bin/mtshop/front/shop_main.cgi?

Re: [Finale] 2006b, GPO vs Non GPO sounds

2005-12-18 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 18 Dec 2005, at 3:35 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: On 18.12.2005 Darcy James Argue wrote: Johannes, Finale's Setup Wizard *does* let you choose the exact GPO instrument you want. Sure, but with numerous problems: 1) After I leave the wizard, Finale will actually load all those

Re: [Finale] 2006b, GPO vs Non GPO sounds

2005-12-18 Thread Darcy James Argue
Neal, It's often a bit more complicated than that, but this is essentially the method I discuss in my tutorial, and it does work. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://secretsociety.typepad.com Brooklyn, NY On 18 Dec 2005, at 9:31 AM, Neal Gittleman wrote: We started with someone who

Re: [Finale] TAN: MIDITECH Roll'n play - anyone tried it?

2005-12-18 Thread Kurt Gnos
Johannes, I have been using Finale with full-size-Keyboards for about 15 years. However, teaching my classes to use Finale Notepad, I found out that with very little training you may be quite as fast using the computer keyboard. In simple entry you type in c etc. and get the diatonic note,

Re: [Finale] FinMac Sluggishness

2005-12-18 Thread Chuck Israels
On Dec 17, 2005, at 10:57 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 17 Dec 2005, at 9:21 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: BTW - 2006b seems to be working pretty well, but the delay in mass edit area selection (and related things like measure tool and staff tool area selections) and nudging delay are still

Re: [Finale] FinMac Sluggishness

2005-12-18 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hey Chuck, The upshot of what I was saying -- if anyone wants to see these performance issues addressed in Fin2006c, the time to push for it is now. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://secretsociety.typepad.com Brooklyn, NY On 18 Dec 2005, at 2:14 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: On Dec

Re: [Finale] FinMac Sluggishness

2005-12-18 Thread Chuck Israels
OK, I'll send another message and ask for a c update that addresses this. We can all dream of improvements, but this is the only remaining large annoyance for me. I found the GPO instrument libraries and removed the non-notation instruments - out them in a separate storage folder, so I

Re: [Finale] FinMac Sluggishness

2005-12-18 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 18.12.2005 Chuck Israels wrote: I found the GPO instrument libraries and removed the non-notation instruments - out them in a separate storage folder, so I won't have to reinstall the whole package, if I ever need them. (Not that I can imagine why I would - having no sequencing program,

Re: [Finale] TAN: MIDITECH Roll'n play - anyone tried it?

2005-12-18 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 18.12.2005 Kurt Gnos wrote: I have been using Finale with full-size-Keyboards for about 15 years. However, teaching my classes to use Finale Notepad, I found out that with very little training you may be quite as fast using the computer keyboard. In simple entry you type in c etc. and get

Re: [Finale] 2006b, GPO vs Non GPO sounds

2005-12-18 Thread Johannes Gebauer
Darcy, I am not saying that the setup wizard with GPO doesn't work at all, and perhaps even have certain benefits in some situations. However, I am saying it is a step backwards from how it worked before, and it is a total nuissance to me (and I am pretty sure to others as well) who use Finale

Re: [Finale] TAN: MIDITECH Roll'n play - anyone tried it?

2005-12-18 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 18.12.2005 Matthew Hindson Fastmail Account wrote: I have one of these and have used it for Finale work. It's very good in general for Speedy Note Entry. It was so great having a keyboard that could just roll up and unroll in hotel rooms etc. It certainly semms to be reliable enough.

Re: [Finale] TAN: MIDITECH Roll'n play - anyone tried it?

2005-12-18 Thread Raymond Horton
Johannes Gebauer wrote: For what it is worth, I certainly don't need it to be sensitive, note on and off is all I need. Right, I didn't mean literal touch sensitivity, I meant sensitive enough to register the right note nearly every time and, from the other accounts we've received here,

Re: [Finale] TAN: MIDITECH Roll'n play - anyone tried it?

2005-12-18 Thread Raymond Horton
Raymond Horton / 2005/12/18 / 07:31 AM wrote: Not to be confused with the "Play'n Roll Electronic Piano" which has a speaker and sounds and doesn't mention MIDI, BTW. (Ain't Google amazing!) The latter likely uses similar technology, I'm guessing, as it looks mostly the

Re: [Finale] TAN: MIDITECH Roll'n play - anyone tried it?

2005-12-18 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hey Johannes, Sure thing -- just turn on MIDI Thru, set it to Fixed and choose a channel with an acoustic piano (or whatever) loaded. Alternately, you could set it to Smart if you want to hear the instrument assigned to the staff you are inputting into -- e.g., a violin when you are

Re: [Finale] 2006b, GPO vs Non GPO sounds

2005-12-18 Thread Darcy James Argue
Johannes, You and I agree on the core issue -- the GPO component of the Setup Wizard needs a _lot_ of improvement. All I'm saying is that for people who *do* require GPO playback and *do* work on large orchestral scores, GPO+Setup Wizard is (by far, IMO) the lesser of two evils.

Re: [Finale] 2006b, GPO vs Non GPO sounds

2005-12-18 Thread Martin Banner
Darcy, You are correct here...since I am creating modern performing editions from 18th and early 19th Century sacred Latin concerted choral manuscripts, often autograph manuscripts, I need playback to make sure there are no mistakes in the original manuscript or my new modern performing

Re: [Finale] TAN: MIDITECH Roll'n play - anyone tried it?

2005-12-18 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 18.12.2005 Darcy James Argue wrote: Alternately, you could set it to Smart if you want to hear the instrument assigned to the staff you are inputting into -- e.g., a violin when you are entering the violin pitches, etc. Nah, can't bear the violin patch... ;-) Johannes --

Re: [Finale] 2006b, GPO vs Non GPO sounds

2005-12-18 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 18.12.2005 Darcy James Argue wrote: Well, that's moving the goalposts! Obviously, it's faster to not bother with GPO in the Setup Wizard if you don't care about GPO! I was talking about the fastest way to set up orchestral GPO playback for someone who actually *wants* to use GPO.

Re: [Finale] 2006b, GPO vs Non GPO sounds

2005-12-18 Thread David W. Fenton
On 17 Dec 2005 at 19:39, Darcy James Argue wrote: I understand and agree with your frustration with the Setup Wizard's limitations, but since you don't normally work with orchestra music, I don't think you really understand how time-consuming it is to set up GPO playback without the Setup

Re: [Finale] 2006b, GPO vs Non GPO sounds

2005-12-18 Thread Darcy James Argue
Fixed in Fin2006b. For existing docs, GPO instruments load when you press Play, not when you open the file. - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://secretsociety.typepad.com Brooklyn, NY On 18 Dec 2005, at 6:20 PM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: If only for the times I forgot to deactivate before

Re: [Finale] 2006b, GPO vs Non GPO sounds

2005-12-18 Thread Darcy James Argue
David, You seem to have badly misread almost everything I said. Johannes made a blanket recommendation to forget about using the Setup Wizard to configure GPO playback. This was advice given to another user, whose situation is closer to mine than Johannes's. I have *not* trying to tell