Re: [Finale] Crediting the copyist

2010-03-30 Thread mmathew1942
The French Publisher, Durand, has engraving information on a lot of their music. Small and on the final page. respectfully, Michael - Original Message - From: dc den...@free.fr To: finale@shsu.edu, finale@shsu.edu Sent: Monday, March 29, 2010 11:12:13 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada

Re: [Finale] Crediting the copyist

2010-03-30 Thread Richard Huggins
I was an editor for Word Music in the 90's and we credited the engraver on the inside title sheet. They still do, as do similar publishers. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 30, 2010, at 1:12 AM, dc den...@free.fr wrote: David W. Fenton écrit: In modern times, I don't think it's ever done for

Re: [Finale] OT - Mr Chuck Israels who writes in this list is the same Chuck Israels that played with Bill Evans and John Coltrane?

2010-03-30 Thread Marcello Noia
I am Italian, I play saxophones and clarinet (jazz and blues) and I am a singer/arranger in a couple of choral ensembles. Only recently I guessed that the person who signs as Chuck Israels on this list could be THAT Chuck Israels. Wow! It's a real pleasure. I read about another Chuck Israels who

Re: [Finale] Crediting the copyist

2010-03-30 Thread dhbailey
Rich Caldwell wrote: The composer of a piece I'm currently working on said I should put my name on the last page of the score to credit myself as the engraver. My first reaction was that engravers don't normally do this, but I might be assuming incorrectly. After all, if I'm wrong, I could lose

Re: [Finale] Crediting the copyist

2010-03-30 Thread Cecil Rigby
I stipulate doing so as part of many contracts, putting info in small type on the bottom of the first page of the full score AND parts, if any business name and email address - I will also add a date if the piece is having its premiere. A symphony's librarian contacted me after seeing

Re: [Finale] OT - Mr Chuck Israels who writes in this list is the same Chuck Israels that played with Bill Evans and John Coltrane?

2010-03-30 Thread Chuck Israels
I asked because I guessed that you might be Italian. I will be in Vicenza and Verona on May 6 - 8, if you are anywhere near there. Chuck On Mar 30, 2010, at 12:38 AM, Marcello Noia wrote: I am Italian, I play saxophones and clarinet (jazz and blues) and I am a singer/arranger in a couple

Re: [Finale] Crediting the copyist

2010-03-30 Thread John Howell
At 10:28 PM -0400 3/29/10, Rich Caldwell wrote: The composer of a piece I'm currently working on said I should put my name on the last page of the score to credit myself as the engraver. My first reaction was that engravers don't normally do this, but I might be assuming incorrectly. After

Re: [Finale] Crediting the copyist

2010-03-30 Thread Michael L Meyer
Hi Rich -- While I would agree with everyone else that for most contemporary music it's not common, it IS common in musical theatre -- most computer-engraved (but not hand-engraved) scores I've come across (especially from MTI) in recent years include the name of the copying service, if

Re: [Finale] Crediting the copyist

2010-03-30 Thread John Howell
At 11:17 AM -0400 3/30/10, Michael L Meyer wrote: Hi Rich -- While I would agree with everyone else that for most contemporary music it's not common, it IS common in musical theatre -- most computer-engraved (but not hand-engraved) scores I've come across (especially from MTI) in recent

Re: [Finale] Crediting the copyist

2010-03-30 Thread Aaron Rabushka
Yes--good old Judy Green! I remember cutting their logos (Cameo, Alpheus) off the bottoms of several works. Aaron J. Rabushka arabus...@austin.rr.com - Original Message - From: John Howell john.how...@vt.edu To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 10:02 AM Subject: Re:

Re: [Finale] Crediting the copyist

2010-03-30 Thread dershem
On 3/29/2010 11:40 PM, Richard Huggins wrote: I was an editor for Word Music in the 90's and we credited the engraver on the inside title sheet. They still do, as do similar publishers. Sent from my iPhone On Mar 30, 2010, at 1:12 AM, dcden...@free.fr wrote: David W. Fenton écrit: In modern

Re: [Finale] Crediting the copyist

2010-03-30 Thread Rich Caldwell
Thanks for all the input. It's interesting hearing the different viewpoints. It's been awhile since I've looked at lots of new music scores, and I must not have paid attention or noticed the credits. I think in this case, I'll put my name and work e-mail on the last page, nice and small, but

[Finale] trouble with REBARring

2010-03-30 Thread arabushka
Currently I am working on a section in 8/4 time with a measure that starts with two consecutive dotted quarters. When I REBAR the score (which I wind up doing innumerable times in the course of any given project) Finale turns the second dotted quarter into an 8th tied to a quarter, and

[Finale] Dissertation Work Guidelines/Advice?

2010-03-30 Thread Williams, Jim
Anyone done Finale work for a doctoral dissertation? An associate has asked me to do some examples that he is going to insert into his dissertation. Preparing the .MUS files is not a concern here; what I need to know is if there is a standard for the format (.GIF? .TIF? .JPG? other?) and

Re: [Finale] Crediting the copyist

2010-03-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Mar 2010 at 10:37, Aaron Rabushka wrote: Yes--good old Judy Green! I remember cutting their logos (Cameo, Alpheus) off the bottoms of several works. I'm not sure I understand the motivation here, and strangely enough, it came up just this morning when I was looking at the manuscript of

[Finale] Noteflight

2010-03-30 Thread Barbara Touburg
I found this in a Dutch music magazine: http://www.noteflight.com/ What do we think of this? Barbara ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Dissertation Work Guidelines/Advice?

2010-03-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Mar 2010 at 14:40, Williams, Jim wrote: Anyone done Finale work for a doctoral dissertation? An associate has asked me to do some examples that he is going to insert into his dissertation. Preparing the .MUS files is not a concern here; what I need to know is if there is a

Re: [Finale] Noteflight

2010-03-30 Thread dhbailey
Barbara Touburg wrote: I found this in a Dutch music magazine: http://www.noteflight.com/ What do we think of this? Barbara ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Any program which doesn't reside on

Re: [Finale] Noteflight

2010-03-30 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Barbara Touburg wrote: I found this in a Dutch music magazine: http://www.noteflight.com/ What do we think of this? First impression (based only upon the page of the link, and cursory perusal of the terms of use): it's an application of cloud computing applied to music scores. The

Re: [Finale] Dissertation Work Guidelines/Advice?

2010-03-30 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Williams, Jim wrote: Is there no standard at all? Does it vary from school to school? I'd be very surprised if there is no standard, and more than varying from school to school, it may, in fact, vary from department to department within a school. Your associate should be able to provide

Re: [Finale] trouble with REBARring

2010-03-30 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
arabus...@austin.rr.com wrote: Currently I am working on a section in 8/4 time with a measure that starts with two consecutive dotted quarters. When I REBAR the score (which I wind up doing innumerable times in the course of any given project) Finale turns the second dotted quarter into an

Re: [Finale] Crediting the copyist

2010-03-30 Thread arabushka
Why did I cut the logos off? I did not feel like giving free advetising to Alpheus on every page of my work. ajr David W. Fenton lists.fin...@dfenton.com wrote: On 30 Mar 2010 at 10:37, Aaron Rabushka wrote: Yes--good old Judy Green! I remember cutting their logos (Cameo, Alpheus)

Re: [Finale] Dissertation Work Guidelines/Advice?

2010-03-30 Thread John Howell
At 3:16 PM -0400 3/30/10, David W. Fenton wrote: This has nothing to do with anything but producing a document. Dissertations are printed documents and the source files or formats are not relevant to the institutions involved. Quite possibly no longer true. Or at least no longer true at some

[Finale] 10.6.3 renders Finale illegible

2010-03-30 Thread Chuck Israels
Hi All, Well, I almost always do the incremental OS updates that Apple sends out, this time going from 10.6.2 to 10.6.3. As soon as the computer restarted and I opened Finale, symbols are misplaced everywhere, and nothing is legible. Note heads appear as slashes, or other strange things,

Re: [Finale] 10.6.3 renders Finale illegible

2010-03-30 Thread Eric Dannewitz
You have duplicate fonts happening in your system. Go into /Users/YOURUSERNAME/Library/Fonts and get rid of the duplicates. There might also be some in /Library/Fonts on the Macintosh HD Or you could use FontBook which is in Applications..though I have found it works better to go in and

Re: [Finale] Noteflight

2010-03-30 Thread John Howell
At 3:59 PM -0400 3/30/10, dhbailey wrote: Any program which doesn't reside on my computer and the data files of which I store in my own location separate from the vissicitudes of web businesses failing is not anything I'm interested in. For music files I certainly agree. But I just ran

Re: [Finale] 10.6.3 renders Finale illegible

2010-03-30 Thread Chuck Israels
If that's all it is, I can probably fix it. I will try now. Thanks for the speedy reply. Chuck On Mar 30, 2010, at 6:29 PM, Eric Dannewitz wrote: You have duplicate fonts happening in your system. Go into /Users/YOURUSERNAME/Library/Fonts and get rid of the duplicates. There might also

Re: [Finale] 10.6.3 renders Finale illegible

2010-03-30 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Chuck, I'm fairly certain it's not 10.6.3. Finale (all versions) is just fine on my system after installing the 10.6.3 upgrade. I'd recommend reinstalling your fonts. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 30 Mar 2010, at 9:22 PM, Chuck Israels wrote: Hi All,

Re: [Finale] 10.6.3 renders Finale illegible

2010-03-30 Thread Chuck Israels
Hi Darcy, The Finale ones? From the 2010 installer - do a custom install and only do the fonts? I tried resolving duplicates in Font book, and that changed nothing in how Finale displays. This was an instantaneous change, as son as the Mac rebooted in 10.6.3. Strange. Not panicked yet,

Re: [Finale] Dissertation Work Guidelines/Advice?

2010-03-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Mar 2010 at 15:31, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Williams, Jim wrote: Is there no standard at all? Does it vary from school to school? I'd be very surprised if there is no standard, and more than varying from school to school, it may, in fact, vary from department to department within

Re: [Finale] Dissertation Work Guidelines/Advice?

2010-03-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Mar 2010 at 21:17, John Howell wrote: At 3:16 PM -0400 3/30/10, David W. Fenton wrote: This has nothing to do with anything but producing a document. Dissertations are printed documents and the source files or formats are not relevant to the institutions involved. Quite possibly no

Re: [Finale] Noteflight

2010-03-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Mar 2010 at 15:59, dhbailey wrote: I won't use the internet for storing my backups -- nothing's truly and verifiably secure on the internet and nothing's to prevent some such company from going out of business just at the time when I need to restore those files to my hard drive.

Re: [Finale] 10.6.3 renders Finale illegible

2010-03-30 Thread Eric Dannewitz
I had a similar problem. What I figured out was that I had duplicates in Library/Fonts and Username/Library/Fonts And that Finale wasn't liking that I had both truetype and Postscript fonts installed. So, removing the Postscript fonts fixed everything for me. On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 6:45 PM,

Re: [Finale] 10.6.3 renders Finale illegible

2010-03-30 Thread Chuck Israels
I am trying to deal with that - not sure how to see these things - which ones are which, but I'm trying. I did re-install the Finale fonts, as Darcy suggested, from the Finale support site. Now it's just a different mess - different wrong symbols are appearing. I keep working on this.

Re: [Finale] Crediting the copyist

2010-03-30 Thread Christopher Smith
On Tue Mar 30, at TuesdayMar 30 12:09 PM, dershem wrote: have often run across big band parts, mostly hand-copied, that used a rubber stamp across the bottom of the page (often, but not always the last page) with the copyist's name and contact info. cd It was a requirement of the Union

Re: [Finale] Noteflight

2010-03-30 Thread Christopher Smith
On Tue Mar 30, at TuesdayMar 30 9:30 PM, John Howell wrote: And just this afternoon I learned from the prof. who's been teaching Apprec for many years that he's using a totally on-line course. It's from a company that handles everything on line, there's no textbook, and the students just

Re: [Finale] 10.6.3 renders Finale illegible

2010-03-30 Thread Chuck Israels
I seem to have fixed this - by removing some fonts from the root level and putting them in the User library. Finale seems to want some of them there. Others were in the root level font folder, and I removed them from there (some of these are fonts that are in use in Finale) and, even though I

Re: [Finale] Dissertation Work Guidelines/Advice?

2010-03-30 Thread John Howell
At 9:49 PM -0400 3/30/10, David W. Fenton wrote: Now, it may be that some institutions have helpful hints on this, but the idea of a requirement or standard is to me ludicrous. My daughter just had her dissertation proposal in Math Education approved at NYU, so I'll ask her what they

Re: [Finale] 10.6.3 renders Finale illegible

2010-03-30 Thread Eric Dannewitz
I haven't had to install Finale in a while, but generally programs assume that they are going to be accessed by multiple users on a computer, and therefore will put the fonts in the root level /Library/Fonts. However, it seems that Finale at some point might have, or intentionally does,

[Finale] beaming over grace notes

2010-03-30 Thread jerry kalaf
anyone know how to allow finale to beam over grace notes such as groups of three eighth notes in 6/8 time with grace notes (drum rudiments - flams and drags etc) in between? thanks, jk ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Dissertation Work Guidelines/Advice?

2010-03-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Mar 2010 at 22:42, John Howell wrote: At 9:49 PM -0400 3/30/10, David W. Fenton wrote: Now, it may be that some institutions have helpful hints on this, but the idea of a requirement or standard is to me ludicrous. My daughter just had her dissertation proposal in Math Education

Re: [Finale] Dissertation Work Guidelines/Advice?

2010-03-30 Thread Christopher Smith
On Tue Mar 30, at TuesdayMar 30 9:49 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Last I checked, UMI PDFs of dissertations were graphics of scans of the printed page, not produced from the text of the document. Even if they *were* produced from the printed document, specifying dpi of source graphics is not

Re: [Finale] beaming over grace notes

2010-03-30 Thread Christopher Smith
Yeah, this is touchy, but you have to know how Finale thinks. In Speedy, you hit the / button normally to create-break beams with the PREVIOUS eighth note. The trick is with grace notes, you have to hit EACH grace note ONCE only, then the following eighth note. There is no way to know if

Re: [Finale] 10.6.3 renders Finale illegible

2010-03-30 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Chuck, I have all my fonts in Macintosh HD/Library/Fonts. You should keep all of your fonts there as well. Your [username]/Library/Fonts folder should be empty, and you should move any fonts found there to Macintosh HD/Library/Fonts. If there are fonts you DON'T want to use, you should

Re: [Finale] Dissertation Work Guidelines/Advice?

2010-03-30 Thread David W. Fenton
On 30 Mar 2010 at 21:57, Christopher Smith wrote: On Tue Mar 30, at TuesdayMar 30 9:49 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Last I checked, UMI PDFs of dissertations were graphics of scans of the printed page, not produced from the text of the document. Even if they *were* produced from the

Re: [Finale] 10.6.3 renders Finale illegible

2010-03-30 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Chuck, I would recommend removing ALL MakeMusic Finale fonts (not third-party fonts, but Maestro, Engraver, etc. -- anything that is installed by the Finale installer), then reinstalling those fonts from the Finale DVD. Obviously you'll need to quit Finale before doing this, and a reboot

Re: [Finale] beaming over grace notes

2010-03-30 Thread jerry kalaf
thanks christopher, I was not hitting the grace notes with the / key. once I started doing that it worked. I still have not been able to make it work when there are a group of grace notes (such as an ornament) between some of the regular eighth notes. I'll keep trying. best, jk On Mar 30,

Re: [Finale] beaming over grace notes

2010-03-30 Thread Robert Patterson
My Beam Selection plugin will do this automatically, so long as the grace notes are of 8th or smaller value. It is not possible to beam over a quarter or larger grace notes in Finale. (Well, you can do it, but the grace notes have to be in a different Voice or Layer: a pain.) On Tue, Mar 30,

Re: [Finale] beaming over grace notes

2010-03-30 Thread Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre
I just did this in a recent project, where a sixteenth after a dotted eight had 4 grace note leading up to it: place the cursor on the last note (the note after the grace notes) and press the / (slash) key. Klaus --- On Wed, 3/31/10, jerry kalaf jka...@sbcglobal.net wrote: From: jerry kalaf

Re: [Finale] Dissertation Work Guidelines/Advice?

2010-03-30 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
John wrote: Rules do NOT have to be either logical or reasonable, they just have to be followed. Ah yes, in Army basic training, I would make the hard-nosed platoon Sgt. be beside himself, when just after he turned off the barrack's lights, I would shout out, The thinking lamp is

[Finale] Dissertation work

2010-03-30 Thread Howey, Henry
Use the postscript for insertion into WORD documents. They're big but dpi is a function of the printer, not the object, Try to size close to actual size. Also, breal multi-line images into smaller pieces for good pageflow. Henry Howey Professor of Music Sam Houston State University Box

Re: [Finale] beaming over grace notes

2010-03-30 Thread SN jef chippewa
use layer 2 for the grace notes, placing and hiding rests where the notes are in layer 1 are that won't allow you to beam across. i did this recently... or maybe it was with another layer and real notes (hidden tuplets) at 75%... I still have not been able to make it work when there are a

Re: [Finale] trouble with REBARring

2010-03-30 Thread Aaron Rabushka
That took care of it! Thanks! Aaron J. Rabushka arabus...@austin.rr.com - Original Message - From: Noel Stoutenburg mjol...@ticnet.com To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2010 3:09 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] trouble with REBARring arabus...@austin.rr.com wrote: Currently I

Re: [Finale] beaming over grace notes

2010-03-30 Thread jerry kalaf
I have not been able to get it to work all the time either (when I am in 3/8. 6/8, 9/8 etc). the layer approach works but is very tedious. thanks, jk On Mar 30, 2010, at 8:53 PM, SN jef chippewa wrote: use layer 2 for the grace notes, placing and hiding rests where the notes are in