I have the Henle Urtext edition of that Nocturne, which should reproduce
Chopin's notation: as far as I can see it is the same as in that example. We're
discussing dotted notes that share noteheads: you can see some in measures 33 -
35.
Another nice example is given the Nocturne in F# minor,
On 8 Feb 2011, at 04:00, David W. Fenton wrote:
I don't know what your point is by citing it. It doesn't at all
relate to the topic we were speaking about -- it introduces a whole
host of unrelated issues (so far as I can see).
I thought to some small extent that we had gone on to a more
On 8 Feb 2011 at 10:33, Florence + Michael wrote:
I have the Henle Urtext edition of that Nocturne, which should
reproduce Chopin's notation:
You seem to have a naïve idea about what a Henle Urtext actually is.
It still has editorial changes to it, even though the Urtext
designation would
On 8 Feb 2011 at 10:36, Steve Parker wrote:
On 8 Feb 2011, at 04:00, David W. Fenton wrote:
And that's the Paderewski edition, which does not necessarily
represent what was in Chopin's autograph.
I really am not so dumb nor inexperienced to give an example that is
not the same. The
Ah yes, I'd forgotten how rude and condescending you can be. Why can't you just
state your point of view without insulting people? Pertaining to how sure I
am, I won't go into all the details of how many Chopin facsimiles I've seen or
what I know about Henle Urtext editions: I'll just say that
At 10:33 AM +0100 2/8/11, Florence + Michael wrote:
I have the Henle Urtext edition of that Nocturne, which should
reproduce Chopin's notation: as far as I can see it is the same as
in that example. We're discussing dotted notes that share noteheads:
you can see some in measures 33 - 35.
Good day:
Someone here in New York has asked me about an edition of Delalande's
Symphonies pour la soupir du Roi, and have said they can't locate a
modern edition.
Could anyone help with some leads, or even where the original source(s) are?
Thank you kindly,
Kim
Kim:
I've sent you the result of a WorldCat search for Delaland symphonies. Doesn't
seem to be a complete edition, but selections are available. If you want more
detail of individual library holdings, please contact me. In most cases the
number of holdings is small, but there is information on
Thank you so much.
I am in the New York City area, do you have any leads for that? A
conductor here in NYC wants the music for a concert in March (a rather
tight deadline). But I could enter the music rather quickly and
generate parts) IF I have a score.
Thanks again for all your hard work!
Kim
Kim:
Your friend might also want to consult the following for information
about the manuscripts:
A Thematic Catalogue of the Works of Michel-Richard de Lalande
(1657–1726). By Lionel Sawkins, . pp. lxvii + 700. (Oxford
University Press, Oxford and New York, 2005, £125. ISBN 0-19-816368-6.)
No problem, Kim. The most commonly held score is the extracts published in 1965
by Editions Costallat. In New York, this edition is held by Columbia, Cornell,
Eastman School of Music, Queens College, SUNY Buffalo, and Vassar. Note that it
is cataloged under de Lalande instead of Delalande. Hope
The composer’s name comes in various recognized spellings. The title of the
music may be more definite in its spelling:
Simphonies pour les Soupers du Roy
Unless there is an intended pun soupir is a different matter than souper.
Klaus
From: Kim Patrick Clow
Well, if the king were feeling a tad madrigalesque at the time he may have very
well sighed at his supper! (When I used to here these on the radio the title
was always given in English.)
ajr
Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre yorkmaster...@yahoo.com wrote:
The composer’s name comes in various
On 8 Feb 2011 at 16:29, Florence + Michael wrote:
Ah yes, I'd forgotten how rude and condescending you can be. Why can't
you just state your point of view without insulting people?
This is not about connoisseurship -- it's about facts. There's a long
history among music lovers of extending
On 8 Feb 2011 at 15:10, dc wrote:
Obviously, there's Urtext and Urtext...
Excellent example. Even critical editions can be incredibly
unreliable. The original publication of the volume of early
symphonies in the Neue Mozart Ausgabe (1956, I believe, hint, hint)
was TERRIBLE. It was much like
I have been finding more and more use of giant fermatas, especially in
operatic rep transcriptions; is there a giant fermata hidden somewhere
amongst the myriad random marks? I made my own, but it looks a little lame
in
my opinion, especially as it doesn't really have the same graceful
A friend is using Finale 2011, while I don't upgrade that often and use
2010. (Both Windows). What is the optimal way for me to read files he
sends me?
cd
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Nope, not really. You can sorta use music XML but it's not an idea solution.
Your friend could reinstall his version of 2010 and use that.
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On Feb 8, 2011, at 8:56 PM, dershem ders...@cox.net wrote:
A friend is using Finale 2011, while I don't upgrade that often and
dershem wrote:
A friend is using Finale 2011, while I don't upgrade that often and use
2010. (Both Windows). What is the optimal way for me to read files he
sends me?
If you just read the files, you can use Finale Notepad 2011, or the free
download, Finale Reader. Unless the files he is
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