Re: [Finale] Make Music web site

2012-10-14 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Um, no, it's up NOT Sent from my vacation home in Hawaii -- On Oct 14, 2012, at 9:19 PM, Michael Greensill wrote: > Make Music web site seems to down...maybe they didn't pay their Network > Solutions billhappened to me once. > > Mike G. > > www.mikegreensill.com > > > _

[Finale] Make Music web site

2012-10-14 Thread Michael Greensill
Make Music web site seems to down...maybe they didn't pay their Network Solutions billhappened to me once. Mike G. www.mikegreensill.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Transposition (definitely OT)

2012-10-14 Thread John Howell
At 8:34 PM -0400 10/14/12, whitby Margaret wrote: >John Howell's story about Arthur Squires took me >back to my student days at Cambridge. About 6 >or 8 of us were crowded round a piano trying to >sing Tallis's 'The Lamentations of Jeremiah' >from one copy of the music. It was all in >variou

[Finale] Transposition

2012-10-14 Thread whitby Margaret
John Howell's story about Arthur Squires took me back to my student days at Cambridge. About 6 or 8 of us were crowded round a piano trying to sing Tallis's 'The Lamentations of Jeremiah' from one copy of the music. It was all in various C clefs. I also had a problem another time trying to si

Re: [Finale] OT: Anyone know what this instrument is?

2012-10-14 Thread Christopher Smith
Aha! I think Water Chime is a front-runner! In a context that has waterphones, that seems likely, and the first word, now that I look at it closely, seems to be "Water". Christopher On Sun Oct 14, at SundayOct 14 6:12 PM, Doug Walter wrote: > The second word looks like it might be Chimes. And

Re: [Finale] OT: Anyone know what this instrument is?

2012-10-14 Thread Doug Walter
The second word looks like it might be Chimes. And the first letter of the first word looks pretty much like the W from Waterphone. But the other 3(?) letters . . . ? Doug On Oct 14, 2012, at 3:07 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: > It looks like it says Ivola Primo or Nola Piano, but neither of t

Re: [Finale] OT: Anyone know what this instrument is?

2012-10-14 Thread Christopher Smith
It looks like it says Ivola Primo or Nola Piano, but neither of those makes sense. Any chance of talking to the composer? Or seeing a part? Christopher On Sun Oct 14, at SundayOct 14 4:43 PM, Blake Richardson wrote: > It's a handwritten score. Percussion instrument of some kind. The two below

Re: [Finale] OT: Anyone know what this instrument is?

2012-10-14 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Sun, October 14, 2012 4:43 pm, Blake Richardson wrote: > It's a handwritten score. Percussion instrument of some kind. > Any thoughts? Water Glasses? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

[Finale] OT: Anyone know what this instrument is?

2012-10-14 Thread Blake Richardson
It's a handwritten score. Percussion instrument of some kind. The two below it are Small Waterphone, Large Waterphone and Rumble Board, but for the life of me I can't figure out what that notation says. Any thoughts? https://dl.dropbox.com/u/88475764/ST-TMP.Goldsmith.jpg

Re: [Finale] Adding cues destroys optimization

2012-10-14 Thread Robert Patterson
FWIW: I am finding ways to deal with all of these cues issues. As much more laborious as it is (than having a separate file), the deal killer for me is that special tools edits are not unlinkable (ties and beams esp.), and there is no way to properly handle beams over barlines. For my current proje

Re: [Finale] Adding cues destroys optimization

2012-10-14 Thread Robert Patterson
Oh, but to your point, hiding empty staves did nothing until I used Force Hide On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Robert Patterson < rob...@robertgpatterson.com> wrote: > Yes, but when I did, the optimization had changed. Hence the word, > "destroyed". > > > On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Darcy

Re: [Finale] Adding cues destroys optimization

2012-10-14 Thread Robert Patterson
Yes, but when I did, the optimization had changed. Hence the word, "destroyed". On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 12:30 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: > Did you also re-apply "Hide Empty Staves"? > > Cheers, > > - DJA > - > WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org > > > > On Oct 14, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Rob

Re: [Finale] Adding cues destroys optimization

2012-10-14 Thread Darcy James Argue
Did you also re-apply "Hide Empty Staves"? Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Oct 14, 2012, at 12:43 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: > Nope, didn't work. The only thing that worked for me was "Force Hide > (Collapse) Score Only". Anyway, it destroyed the optimization

Re: [Finale] Adding cues destroys optimization

2012-10-14 Thread Robert Patterson
Nope, didn't work. The only thing that worked for me was "Force Hide (Collapse) Score Only". Anyway, it destroyed the optimization before I had a chance to apply any staff style. On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Darcy James Argue wrote: > Hi Robert, > > Yes - use the "Blank notation with rests"

Re: [Finale] Adding cues destroys optimization

2012-10-14 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Robert, Yes - use the "Blank notation with rests" staff style to hide them in the score only (via the "Apply to current score/part option"). Finale will treat them as empty measures in the score. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On Oct 14, 2012, at 9:11 AM, Robe

Re: [Finale] Adding cues destroys optimization

2012-10-14 Thread Robert Patterson
Using the context menus requires some understanding, because the behavior is not the same as assignments used to be: that is, it used to be that assigning/removing in part view only affected the part. But with advent of the context menu it has changed. They may have given you good advice, but it i

Re: [Finale] Adding cues destroys optimization

2012-10-14 Thread SN jef chippewa
maybe the problem is exclusive to the hide staff feature in the staff styles. the problem occured in F2012 for me and i tihnk this is where it was introduced (were there hide staff styles in 2011?). >I've been using the context menu almost exclusively, and so far no >problems. I am skeptical

Re: [Finale] Adding cues destroys optimization

2012-10-14 Thread Robert Patterson
I've been using the context menu almost exclusively, and so far no problems. I am skeptical of that advice, at least in Fin12. Mostly I use the context menu to remove the staff style from parts. On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 9:39 AM, SN jef chippewa < shirl...@newmusicnotation.com> wrote: > > there is

Re: [Finale] Adding cues destroys optimization

2012-10-14 Thread SN jef chippewa
there is an issue (documented) with applying staff styles via the context menu. shit, sorry i should have mentioned this before, but in my head and practice i had already switched to using metatools to apply styles. from support: "Refrain from using the context menu you are going to be c

Re: [Finale] Suppress playback of cues

2012-10-14 Thread Jari Williamsson
On 2012-10-14 15:38, Robert Patterson wrote: > I am not see an obvious way to suppress playback of cues. Have I missed > something? JW Change beta, mark the region. Note Entries->Playback->Mute. Use the Layers filter if needed. Best regards, Jari Williamsson __

Re: [Finale] Suppress playback of cues

2012-10-14 Thread Robert Patterson
I found a solution that works for me: turn off playback of layer 4 in the layer options. It may not work for everyone though. It sure would be nice if layer options (and beaming options, and spacing options, and, and, and...) were part of staff styles. :-0 On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 8:38 AM, Robert P

Re: [Finale] Adding cues destroys optimization

2012-10-14 Thread Robert Patterson
It seems like it reverted to scroll view staff spacing at some point, because when I finally did hide the staves with cues, the optimization was not identical to what it was before. (I know because I had to re-do the spacing of systems on the page.) It's not a big deal for this piece, because only

Re: [Finale] Adding cues destroys optimization

2012-10-14 Thread SN jef chippewa
ah right, sorry. i guess you will have to have not done the layout before doing the cues :-) and hide staves manually. do you lose the optimization for the entire system or only the staff you entered cues in becomes visible? possible to use a PI to copy the layout from the file just before yo

[Finale] Suppress playback of cues

2012-10-14 Thread Robert Patterson
I am not see an obvious way to suppress playback of cues. Have I missed something? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Adding cues destroys optimization

2012-10-14 Thread Robert Patterson
Nope. That causes the staff to disappear wherever the cue is. On Sun, Oct 14, 2012 at 8:15 AM, SN jef chippewa < shirl...@newmusicnotation.com> wrote: > > add force hide to the SC staff style? since the cue shouldn't span > the wntire system, it could work, no? > > >Is there any way to not destr

Re: [Finale] Adding cues destroys optimization

2012-10-14 Thread SN jef chippewa
add force hide to the SC staff style? since the cue shouldn't span the wntire system, it could work, no? >Is there any way to not destroy staff optimization when adding cues? >I understand that I need to set "Force Hide" using a staff style, >but the optimization is already destroyed before I

[Finale] Adding cues destroys optimization

2012-10-14 Thread Robert Patterson
Is there any way to not destroy staff optimization when adding cues? I understand that I need to set "Force Hide" using a staff style, but the optimization is already destroyed before I can get there to force hide the staves. I guess I am look for an optimial order of doing things to minimize destr