Re: [Finale] Horn in bass clef

2012-06-09 Thread Robert Patterson
Depends how low it is. If the part goes below the bottom line G, I would say yes. On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Paul Hayden phayden...@cox.net wrote: How many years has it been since any composer wrote a horn part in the bass clef intending it to sound up a fourth? I still write a note about

Re: [Finale] Horn in bass clef

2012-06-09 Thread Robert Patterson
About the key sigs, I guess I am confused. Are you saying you would rather them play the wrong notes than pencil in the accis? Because that's your choice given one rehearsal (which is how many most of my gigs with key sigs have). On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 3:48 PM, Christopher Smith

Re: [Finale] Horn in bass clef

2012-06-09 Thread Robert Patterson
the deadline, most likely. Christopher On Sat Jun 9, at SaturdayJun 9 6:16 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: About the key sigs, I guess I am confused. Are you saying you would rather them play the wrong notes than pencil in the accis? Because that's your choice given one rehearsal (which is how many

Re: [Finale] Horn in bass clef

2012-06-09 Thread Robert Patterson
or the other that is right 90% of the time. On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 6:06 PM, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com wrote: I see as much pops rep as any pro horn player, and almost all of it has key sigs, so you are certainly going with the flow. Nevertheless I greatly appreciate when the parts

[Finale] Fin12 crashing on insert meas

2012-06-08 Thread Robert Patterson
I am suddenly getting a consistent crash whenever I try to insert a measure. I seem to remember this happening before, but I don't remember how to fix it. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Fin12 crashing on insert meas

2012-06-08 Thread Robert Patterson
/out a spellchecker On Jun 8, 2012, at 9:55 AM, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com wrote: I am suddenly getting a consistent crash whenever I try to insert a measure. I seem to remember this happening before, but I don't remember how to fix

[Finale] OT: Woodblocks in orchestra

2012-06-03 Thread Robert Patterson
A question came up at a rehearsal the other day. Does anyone know what piece has the first use of a woodblock in an orchestra? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] OT: Woodblocks in orchestra

2012-06-03 Thread Robert Patterson
Ah. But I am interested in particular where it first appears in the score of a western European orchestra. On Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 11:38 AM, John Howell john.how...@vt.edu wrote: At 10:57 AM -0500 6/3/12, Robert Patterson wrote: A question came up at a rehearsal the other day. Does anyone know

Re: [Finale] Finale 2013

2012-05-30 Thread Robert Patterson
I think they just wanted to avoid the 13 moniker. I am not at all happy to hear they are dropping support for 10.5, but by the time it happens I may not care as much. Whether Patterson Plugins makes the transition, especially on the Windows side, remains to be seen. On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 5:44

[Finale] Temp Change Playback Inst

2012-05-25 Thread Robert Patterson
FinMac 2012. Is there any quick way to temporarily switch all playback to piano? I have experimented with MIDI settings, but everything seems to be a pain. In the old world I usually just changed the instrument assignments in the Instrument window. If there weren't a lot of staves it was simple

Re: [Finale] text blocks with inserts disappear when edited

2012-05-20 Thread Robert Patterson
There is a bug in Fin12 with respect (some) inserts. You are lucky that Finale isn't crashing. I've seen this scenario crash Finale. On Sun, May 20, 2012 at 12:56 PM, SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.com wrote: can anyone confirm this? (mac F2012) -- open new doc from default; or

Re: [Finale] Will Finale 2010 work in MacOS 10.7 Lion?

2012-05-04 Thread Robert Patterson
I would like clarification on exactly which components of Fin10 require Rosetta. Finale has been Intel-based since Fin06. On Fri, May 4, 2012 at 8:22 AM, Young, Chris cyo...@makemusic.com wrote: Hi Brian, The initial release of Finale 2010 would have required Rosetta, but if you're just

Re: [Finale] Resetting instruments Human Playback

2012-04-29 Thread Robert Patterson
, at 11:12 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: Is there any setting for Human Playback equivalent to the Chase From Measuer 1 option for traditional MIDI playback? It drives me crazy when arco sections are played pizz (or vice versa) just because I didn't start in measure 1

Re: [Finale] Resetting instruments Human Playback

2012-04-29 Thread Robert Patterson
://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 28 Apr 2012, at 11:12 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: Is there any setting for Human Playback equivalent to the Chase From Measuer 1 option for traditional MIDI playback? It drives me crazy when arco sections are played pizz (or vice versa) just because I

[Finale] Resetting instruments Human Playback

2012-04-28 Thread Robert Patterson
Is there any setting for Human Playback equivalent to the Chase From Measuer 1 option for traditional MIDI playback? It drives me crazy when arco sections are played pizz (or vice versa) just because I didn't start in measure 1. ___ Finale mailing list

[Finale] Upgrading to Fin12

2012-04-23 Thread Robert Patterson
I am about to retract exactly what I said about Fin12 a day or two ago. Up until now my work with Fin12 was either as a plugin developer or upgrading an old piece that needed no revisions but needed Unicode text to replace unworkable EPS graphics. But now that I have started a new piece in Fin12,

Re: [Finale] Upgrading to Fin12

2012-04-23 Thread Robert Patterson
, it would be nice to know if someone else can reproduce the problem! Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 23 Apr 2012, at 1:27 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: I am about to retract exactly what I said about Fin12 a day or two ago. Up until now my work

Re: [Finale] Upgrading to Fin12

2012-04-23 Thread Robert Patterson
resumes where it stopped instead of the left measure. Do you have any suggestions about the most efficient way to do this? I always used space-click up till now, but that does not activate Human Playback. On Mon, Apr 23, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com wrote: Aha

Re: [Finale] Upgrading to Fin12

2012-04-23 Thread Robert Patterson
shortcut to stop playback entirely (instead of just pausing it) but I never learned it, and my click the stop button habit is now wholly ingrained. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 23 Apr 2012, at 1:45 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: Darcy, that seems to have

Re: [Finale] 2012 vs 2010

2012-04-21 Thread Robert Patterson
I should probably clarify my position. My belief is that there is never any reason to upgrade unless there is something in the new version you want. One of the other posters stated that they wanted the Unicode features in Fin12 and was already on Fin11. In that case, there is no reason not to

Re: [Finale] 2012 vs 2010

2012-04-20 Thread Robert Patterson
I can only think of one reason not to go from Fin11 to Fin12, esp. if you can use the Unicode. The Score Manager changes call for a little adjustment in how you do things, but the significant regression matters only if you need to enter a lot of instrumental music from before 1900 into Finale. In

Re: [Finale] tuplets defined per staff

2012-04-19 Thread Robert Patterson
My Tuplet Mover plugin can do this (with 2 passes). But you will have to turn off the engraver tuplet options for it work with them. On Thu, Apr 19, 2012 at 12:19 AM, Giovanni Andreani i...@giovanniandreani.eu wrote: A very interesting feature, this would be! I haven't got this need at the

Re: [Finale] tuplets defined per staff

2012-04-19 Thread Robert Patterson
this (or if possible a picture capture of tuplet mover) ? Pierre -Message d'origine- From: Robert Patterson Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2012 2:18 PM To: finale@SHSU.EDU Subject: Re: [Finale] tuplets defined per staff My Tuplet Mover plugin can do this (with 2 passes). But you will have

Re: [Finale] 2012 vs 2010

2012-04-18 Thread Robert Patterson
I can't speak to the specifics of Fin11, having barely used it. But if you are already on Fin10, the main differences you will notice are 1. Score Manager. This could possibly be a step forward, but if you need to have transpositions separate from instruments or if you need to upgrade pre-Fin12

Re: [Finale] 2012 vs 2010

2012-04-18 Thread Robert Patterson
in 2012. On Wednesday, April 18, 2012, rglan rg...@free.fr wrote: At 11:13 AM -0500 18/4/12, Robert Patterson wrote: the main differences you will notice are Merci for the très compréhensif answer. Are all these things you mention new to 2012 or did they appear earlier? I am not familiar

Re: [Finale] 2012 vs 2010

2012-04-18 Thread Robert Patterson
I am sure Carl can speak for himself, but my recollection was that it was the transposition problem. If you are entering big 19th scores in Finale, 2012 is a non-starter because of this problem, esp. if an earlier version is available. The transposition problem is that Fin2012 forces you to

Re: [Finale] 2012 vs 2010

2012-04-18 Thread Robert Patterson
BTW: Fin2012 does have some linked parts improvements with respect to how it works with plugins. For expressions, page titles, and (I believe) smart shapes, if you edit them in part view it unlinks them from the score. This makes using existing plugins more palatable as well as opening up

Re: [Finale] 2012 vs 2010

2012-04-18 Thread Robert Patterson
PM, Christopher Smith christopher.sm...@videotron.ca wrote: On Wed Apr 18, at WednesdayApr 18 2:19 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: I am sure Carl can speak for himself, but my recollection was that it was the transposition problem. If you are entering big 19th scores in Finale, 2012

Re: [Finale] Is FINALE worth continuing?

2012-04-16 Thread Robert Patterson
Dennis, I would suggest you get involved in the MuseScore project. It is nowhere close to being able to replace Finale or Sibelius yet, but precisely because it isn't you might find that it could be molded in a direction you would like. Development is extremely active. Anyone who hasn't looked at

Re: [Finale] Is FINALE worth continuing?

2012-04-16 Thread Robert Patterson
:20 AM, dc den...@free.fr wrote: Le 16/04/2012 15:34, Robert Patterson écrit : Dennis, I would suggest you get involved in the MuseScore project. It is nowhere close to being able to replace Finale or Sibelius yet, but precisely because it isn't you might find that it could be molded

Re: [Finale] Is FINALE worth continuing?

2012-04-16 Thread Robert Patterson
: Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 8:28 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] Is FINALE worth continuing? I suggest you visit the site: http://musescore.org/ It produces very good output...if the output it produces is what you want

Re: [Finale] OT: web page designer

2012-04-16 Thread Robert Patterson
? --Andrew Stiller On Apr 12, 2012, at 11:56 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: I use KompoZer, a free open-source download. It is very basic, but it lets you edit the pages WYSWYG. The upload is very poor, though. For upload, I have found Cyberduck works pretty well. It can synchronize the online

[Finale] Delete System feature of Finale

2012-04-15 Thread Robert Patterson
As near as I can tell, all Delete System does is delete the measures in a system. It does not shuffle the subsequent optimizations correctly, nor does it correctly carry the Distance From Top value. (Well, it may, but because the optimizations are all buggered it doesn't matter.) Has anyone else

Re: [Finale] TGTools in MacFin 2012 - follow-up question

2012-04-13 Thread Robert Patterson
Did you drag it to the right folder? (The plugin folder is in a different location in Fin12, so double-check your program options.) Did you restart Finale? On Fri, Apr 13, 2012 at 9:01 AM, Jamin Hoffman jtbh3...@sbcglobal.netwrote: How do I get TGTools to show up in Fin 2012? I dragged the

Re: [Finale] OT: web page designer

2012-04-12 Thread Robert Patterson
I use KompoZer, a free open-source download. It is very basic, but it lets you edit the pages WYSWYG. The upload is very poor, though. For upload, I have found Cyberduck works pretty well. It can synchronize the online directory with the local after you have made your changes. On Thu, Apr 12,

Re: [Finale] Fin2012a comments and questions

2012-04-10 Thread Robert Patterson
1. I still keep a separate file for parts, but instead of a different file per part, it is a single file for all parts. This has tremendous advantages over different files, although it is admittedly not the Holy Grail. Other people insist on the Holy Grail of a single file, but if they have

[Finale] Change Instrument for 1 bar

2012-04-01 Thread Robert Patterson
Is there any way to edit the instrument-change map directly? I need to change the instrument for 1 bar on a bass drum part so that I can add a cue, but when I only select one bar it changes the part from there forward rather than just for the selected bar. Normally, I could change back in the next

[Finale] Regression grouse

2012-03-31 Thread Robert Patterson
[RANT] Aiiiee. There are so many regressions in Fin12 compared with Fin08, leaving aside the transposition issues. 1. The removal of staff-lines from Staff Styles. What kind of non-musician does it take to think that the number of staff lines has anything to do with the instrument that is

Re: [Finale] Moving individual staves in a system

2012-03-23 Thread Robert Patterson
moving function was ON. Cheers, Steve On 3/22/12 12:07 PM, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com wrote: Something that is turning into a bother is that I keep accidentally destroying all my individual vertical staff positioning. I think it may because it is so easy

[Finale] Fixing Groups mess with upgraded file

2012-03-23 Thread Robert Patterson
Does anyone know a quick way to delete all groups that start after measure 1? Even better, to then extend all groups that do start on measure 1 to cover the whole piece? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

[Finale] Moving individual staves in a system

2012-03-22 Thread Robert Patterson
Having spent most of the year till now in plugin land, I have not really had a chance to do much with Fin12 until now. (My last version was Fin08.) One of the things that has changed is how one moves staves vertically in page view. dragging a staff now drags all staves beneath it. I like the

Re: [Finale] Moving individual staves in a system

2012-03-22 Thread Robert Patterson
this started in Fin11. -Randolph Peters On 2012-03-22, at 10:36 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: Having spent most of the year till now in plugin land, I have not really had a chance to do much with Fin12 until now. (My last version was Fin08.) One of the things that has changed is how one moves

Re: [Finale] Moving individual staves in a system

2012-03-22 Thread Robert Patterson
AM, Jari Williamsson jari.williams...@mailbox.swipnet.se wrote: On 2012-03-22 17:13, Aaron Sherber wrote: On 3/22/2012 11:36 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: One of the things that has changed is how one moves staves vertically in page view. dragging a staff now drags all staves beneath it. I

[Finale] Patterson Plugins V4

2012-03-06 Thread Robert Patterson
I hope this list will indulge me for announcing the availability of a new major version of Patterson Plugins available at my website: http://RobertGPatterson.com Be aware that the new version will not work with any version of Finale earlier than Finale 2012. Thanks, Robert

Re: [Finale] Staff Styles and Transposition

2012-02-16 Thread Robert Patterson
The question is, why jump through all those hoops? The old way was vastly superior to the current implementation (for transposition). I probably will avoid using Fin12 for any projects that need more than band instrument transpositions. On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 3:16 AM, Jari Williamsson

[Finale] Staff Groups (Fin11+)

2012-02-15 Thread Robert Patterson
Starting in Fin11, staff groups have measure ranges and no longer apply to systems. On the whole I think this is a terrific improvement, but as far as I can tell it seems the UI is still mired down in the system-oriented way of doing things. What I would like to be able to do is select a staff and

Re: [Finale] Staff Styles and Transposition

2012-02-15 Thread Robert Patterson
I am just a newbie to Fin12, but I am coming to really hate the Score Manager. I suppose if I had never learned the old way it wouldn't seem so bad, but I'm an old dog, and this seems like a new trick of little value. Up until now I had refrained from whining about the Score Manager because I

Re: [Finale] Staff Groups (Fin11+)

2012-02-15 Thread Robert Patterson
Great. I don't see said plugin. Is it one of yours, or does it come with Finale? On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 10:25 AM, Jari Williamsson jari.williams...@mailbox.swipnet.se wrote: On 2012-02-15 15:03, Robert Patterson wrote: Starting in Fin11, staff groups have measure ranges and no longer apply

Re: [Finale] Staff Styles and Transposition

2012-02-15 Thread Robert Patterson
On 15 Feb 2012, at 9:29 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: I am just a newbie to Fin12, but I am coming to really hate the Score Manager. I suppose if I had never learned the old way it wouldn't seem so bad, but I'm an old dog, and this seems like a new trick of little value. Up until now I

Re: [Finale] Staff Styles and Transposition

2012-02-15 Thread Robert Patterson
for a while, then changes to Horn in E, then back again. I used to use staff styles for this, but now I can't. Thanks! Ryan On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 4:54 PM, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com wrote: I heartily agree the previous way was flawed, and the more I tinker

Re: [Finale] Staff Styles and Transposition

2012-02-15 Thread Robert Patterson
transposition that doesn't use key signatures, but I see no way to get it to change for the selected measures. It seems that an easy fix for them would be the ability to add custom instruments with specific transpositions. On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 5:59 PM, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com

Re: [Finale] Staff Styles and Transposition

2012-02-15 Thread Robert Patterson
at 5:59 PM, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com wrote: The challenge is that there is no canned instrument Horn in E. The whole Fin12 approach is based on the ill-conceived assumption that a change of transposition means a change of instrument. If you don't care about playback

Re: [Finale] Wide fermata

2012-02-12 Thread Robert Patterson
It seems that after so much discussion (now missing the colorful voice of David Fenton), there is a consensus which is that the long fermata requested is not possible in Finale without a lot of hoop-jumping. Having seen the two versions of Cosi, it occurred to me that Aaron could try a

Re: [Finale] Wide fermata

2012-02-12 Thread Robert Patterson
Dang you're right. I don't see any way to break the line in the middle, and I was sure there was one, too. On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 6:31 PM, Aaron Sherber aa...@sherber.com wrote: On 2/12/2012 6:26 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: Having seen the two versions of Cosi, it occurred to me that Aaron

Re: [Finale] Wide fermata

2012-02-12 Thread Robert Patterson
You could do it in the shape designer, but that's pretty painful. On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 7:08 PM, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com wrote: Dang you're right. I don't see any way to break the line in the middle, and I was sure there was one, too. On Sun, Feb 12, 2012 at 6:31 PM

Re: [Finale] Wide fermata

2012-02-10 Thread Robert Patterson
It seems like you could make one in the Shape Designer without too much trouble (using the slur tool and a dot). ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Wide fermata

2012-02-10 Thread Robert Patterson
not what you asked for. On Fri, Feb 10, 2012 at 11:25 AM, Aaron Sherber aa...@sherber.com wrote: On 2/10/2012 12:17 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: It seems like you could make one in the Shape Designer without too much trouble (using the slur tool and a dot). The slur tool isn't as thick as I'd like

Re: [Finale] Changing patches in the new Finale 2012 world

2012-01-30 Thread Robert Patterson
So I have been pursuing my issue of non-playback of pizz and arco expressions with MakeMusic and finally came to understand that Human Playback doesn't work with spacebar playback. Once I opened the playback controls, I could hear the timbre changes. I am a bit miffed by this. I guess Human

Re: [Finale] Changing patches in the new Finale 2012 world

2012-01-30 Thread Robert Patterson
With the playback controls open, when I hit space playback starts where the playback window thinks it should start, not where I click. On Mon, Jan 30, 2012 at 12:38 PM, Aaron Sherber aa...@sherber.com wrote: Hi Darcy, I'm guessing that Robert is talking about Spacebar-click playback. If you

Re: [Finale] Parts have different page size than score (Mac)

2012-01-22 Thread Robert Patterson
, but I also know that the move will be good for them (and that they will miss their friends in Memphis). Chuck On Jan 21, 2012, at 8:25 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: Is there anyway to have parts and score have different pages sizes without having to go in and change the Mac printer

Re: [Finale] Changing patches in the new Finale 2012 world

2012-01-21 Thread Robert Patterson
created document, and you have customized expressions and/or instrument selections. Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 20 Jan 2012, at 1:18 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: Is there any way to control what Human Playback does? On Fri, Jan 20, 2012

[Finale] Parts have different page size than score (Mac)

2012-01-21 Thread Robert Patterson
Is there anyway to have parts and score have different pages sizes without having to go in and change the Mac printer page size to match each time you print one or the other? This is a long-standing issue for me, and I haven't figured out if it is possible.

[Finale] Changing patches in the new Finale 2012 world

2012-01-20 Thread Robert Patterson
Anyway, can someone tell me how to change the Garritan sound of an instrument? Specifically, I want to change from arco to pizz (and back). The old way was to specify a patch change on an expression, but the Garritan option is grayed out on the playback setup window, and specifying the old GM

Re: [Finale] Changing patches in the new Finale 2012 world

2012-01-20 Thread Robert Patterson
:21, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com wrote: Anyway, can someone tell me how to change the Garritan sound of an instrument? Specifically, I want to change from arco to pizz (and back). The old way was to specify a patch change on an expression, but the Garritan option is grayed

Re: [Finale] Changing patches in the new Finale 2012 world

2012-01-20 Thread Robert Patterson
). Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 20 Jan 2012, at 12:21 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: Anyway, can someone tell me how to change the Garritan sound of an instrument? Specifically, I want to change from arco to pizz (and back). The old way was to specify

Re: [Finale] Changing patches in the new Finale 2012 world

2012-01-20 Thread Robert Patterson
, at 1:18 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: Is there any way to control what Human Playback does? On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 11:48 AM, Darcy James Argue djar...@earthlink.netwrote: Hi Robert, Human Playback catches and interprets pizz. and arco expressions automatically, provided

Re: [Finale] Different Bar Lines in Same Score's Measure

2012-01-18 Thread Robert Patterson
It depends on exactly what you need to do. You can hide barlines with a staff style, then override them with group barlines. In most cases where I have needed to do this I have not had to resort to expressions except on single staves. For single staves, the barline symbols in the Sonata font come

[Finale] Controlling Text Repeat Marks

2012-01-18 Thread Robert Patterson
I can get text repeat marks ( D.S., Coda, etc.) to appear only on the top staff line irrespective of the settings in the repeat assignment. Even worse, if I try to use a Staff List to make it show somewhere else, the repeat mark vanishes altogether. Is this a bug in Fin12?

Re: [Finale] Changing Maestro Default file in Fin12

2012-01-13 Thread Robert Patterson
I ultimately figured out that the file has no extension. The Mac OS Finder is very confusing because Hide Extension was checked but also grayed out. On Fri, Jan 13, 2012 at 2:59 AM, Noel Stoutenburg mjol...@ticnet.comwrote: Robert Patterson wrote: I am trying to replace the Maestro Default

[Finale] {Fraud?} {Disarmed} Re: {Fraud?} {Disarmed} MOLA Guidelines

2012-01-13 Thread Robert Patterson
It has been awhile since I looked at the MOLA guidelines and I have to say they are much improved since the last time I read them c. 10 years ago. Some math errors have been fixed, and they are much less prescriptive. (Even the best editions of Beethoven Symphonies did not meet the MOLA guidelines

[Finale] Changing Maestro Default file in Fin12

2012-01-12 Thread Robert Patterson
I am trying to replace the Maestro Default File in Finale 2012, but it appears to have an extension other than .mus (in MacOS). The problem is that the Hide Extension flag is set in get info and the os won't let me change it. What's is the extension for Maestro Default File now? Or should I just

[Finale] Using Document Styles in Finale 2012

2012-01-12 Thread Robert Patterson
Based on a post from Darcy in October, I am attempting to convert my work habits to using doc styles, but I am finding minor and major irritants. Minor irritant: When I use the setup wizard it does not take the Distance between Staves from the setting in my template. Instead it uses zero. Any way

[Finale] Fin2012: edit Maestro Font template

2012-01-09 Thread Robert Patterson
So I would like to transfer some settings from older files to my Maestro Font template file, and I am trying to follow the instructions here: http://www.finalemusic.com/UserManuals/Finale2012Win/Content/Finale/ID_MENU_FILE_NEW_DEF_DOC.htm Never mind that there is no longer a Component Files

Re: [Finale] Fin2012: edit Maestro Font template

2012-01-09 Thread Robert Patterson
On 9 January 2012 15:03, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com wrote: So I would like to transfer some settings from older files to my Maestro Font template file, and I am trying to follow the instructions here: -- Lawrenceyates.co.uk

Re: [Finale] Fin2012: edit Maestro Font template

2012-01-09 Thread Robert Patterson
The website I cited above has a link to a page that will tell you where the files are in Win. On Mon, Jan 9, 2012 at 10:50 AM, Lawrence Yates yateslawre...@gmail.comwrote: Sorry, I should have said, I'm on a PC On 9 January 2012 16:46, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com wrote

[Finale] Patterson Plugins compatible with Finale 2012

2012-01-09 Thread Robert Patterson
This message is to let the group know that I have released a new version of both Patterson Plug-Ins (v3.50) and Copyist Helper (v2.50). The jump in version number reflects the fact that this version encompasses a full regression test with Finale 2012. The last time I did a full regression test was

[Finale] Font Annotation files in Fin12

2012-01-08 Thread Robert Patterson
Hello, I am making a serious effort to move to Fin12 from Fin08. One issue I am having is that Fin12 doesn't seem to recognize my custom font annotation files. Does anyone here know what's going on? In previous versions of Finale (up to Fin09) all I had to do was copy them from the previous

Re: [Finale] Upgrade from Fin08 to Fin12

2011-12-29 Thread Robert Patterson
What's needed is a proper grid with options for what to show and sorting with clickable headers. But one might as well wish for a flying car. On Thu, Dec 29, 2011 at 10:04 AM, Aaron Sherber aa...@sherber.com wrote: On 12/29/2011 10:22 AM, Jari Williamsson wrote: I would NOT want all the

[Finale] Upgrade from Fin08 to Fin12

2011-12-28 Thread Robert Patterson
Hello all. I have decided to upgrade to Fin12 from Fin08. What's the most intelligent way to go about converting my default settings? I know this has come up before, so if there is a website or a prior post, just point me towards it. Beyond that, is there any way to accomplish any of the

Re: [Finale] Upgrade from Fin08 to Fin12

2011-12-28 Thread Robert Patterson
. It would have offered only modest help in alleviating the pain of my specific task. Obviously, manually sorting the list is a cure worse than the disease. On Wed, Dec 28, 2011 at 10:06 PM, Aaron Sherber aa...@sherber.com wrote: On 12/28/2011 9:14 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: Hello all. I have

Re: [Finale] Fw: Fwd: [MLA-L] David Fenton

2011-11-09 Thread Robert Patterson
As far as I can tell, David's last contribution to this list was exactly 2 weeks ago on Oct. 26. It was an exhortation to back-up regularly. I think that is a very fitting farewell, don't you? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

[Finale] Dominant 7 plus 13

2011-10-28 Thread Robert Patterson
Another question for the accumulated jazz wizdom of this list. I need to indicate an E dominant 7 chord with the 6th (or if you prefer, 13th) added. None of the suffixes in the default list jumps out me as the right one. What should it be? ___ Finale

Re: [Finale] Dominant 7 plus 13

2011-10-28 Thread Robert Patterson
On Fri, Oct 28, 2011 at 1:34 PM, Michael Mathew mmathew_musicp...@yahoo.com wrote: If you have a specific context and voicing requirement write it out or we make decisions based on the context. So if I write out the context and voicing, is a chord symbol still useful/required/appreciated?

Re: [Finale] Right-left page annoyance

2011-10-23 Thread Robert Patterson
I'm really confused by this thread. Setting up page numbers on whichever side you want them is trivially easy, so what's all the grousing about? Someone explain to me exactly what they want and I'll tell you how to do it. On Fri, Oct 21, 2011 at 10:25 PM, John Howell john.how...@vt.edu wrote:

Re: [Finale] Augmented 6th chords as jazz chords

2011-10-03 Thread Robert Patterson
On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:43 AM, Dana Friedman li...@dragonflytech.comwrote: At 12:53 PM 10/2/2011, you wrote: it may not work in Mozart, but it's perfect for Monk. I know it's perfect for Monk, but I wouldn't be so quick to count out Mozart. Check out the first few bars of the 2nd half of

Re: [Finale] Augmented 6th chords as jazz chords

2011-10-02 Thread Robert Patterson
dominant of V (V7 of V). Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 1 Oct 2011, at 4:16 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: Is there any accepted practice for writing aug 6th chords in a jazz chart? For example, in the key of D Maj, a Ger 6th would be enharmonically Bb7

Re: [Finale] Augmented 6th chords as jazz chords

2011-10-02 Thread Robert Patterson
be considered tritone substitutions for the applied dominant of V (V7 of V). Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 1 Oct 2011, at 4:16 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: Is there any accepted practice for writing aug 6th chords in a jazz chart? For example

Re: [Finale] Augmented 6th chords as jazz chords

2011-10-02 Thread Robert Patterson
Duh. Bb7/Ab of course. On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Robert Patterson rob...@robertgpatterson.com wrote: G B7/Ab D9/A D7 G. I'll respell the Ab in the bass as G#. It seems like a better spelling to me, too. On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 12:22 PM, Christopher Smith christopher.sm

[Finale] Augmented 6th chords as jazz chords

2011-10-01 Thread Robert Patterson
Is there any accepted practice for writing aug 6th chords in a jazz chart? For example, in the key of D Maj, a Ger 6th would be enharmonically Bb7, but is there a more appropriate notation? And what about Fr and It 6th chords? ___ Finale mailing list

Re: [Finale] Reducing the note size without reducing the lyrics font size

2011-09-21 Thread Robert Patterson
You could use a Fixed font size for the lyrics. On Wed, Sep 21, 2011 at 9:30 AM, Jan Angermüller j...@angermueller.comwrote: Is there a way of reducing the note size of all notes of a staff with one click and without reducing the size of the staff itself and without reducing the font size of

Re: [Finale] Fin08 Crash when inserting measure stacks

2011-09-18 Thread Robert Patterson
I believe my issue had something to do with multi-measure rests in the parts. I deleted all the parts (which I had not yet edited in any way) and then I was able to insert the measures. But I think I could have removed the multi-meas rests in the parts and gotten the same result, because after

[Finale] Fin08 Crash when inserting measure stacks

2011-09-17 Thread Robert Patterson
I have a file that consistently crashes when I try to insert new bars early in the piece. Does anyone else have any experience with this? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Clefs for Tenors in Choir

2011-09-14 Thread Robert Patterson
Curious. I sang a church choir for several years (back in the 80s) and I never saw anything but tenor-treble unless the tenor and bass part were combined on a staff. Of course if J. S. Bach could contribute to this list, he would probably lament the loss of the tenor clef, which is so suited to

Re: [Finale] Disappearing hyphens

2011-09-10 Thread Robert Patterson
The first thing to try is Update Smart Word Extensions and Hyphens (in the Utilities menu). This usually solves the problem. However, be aware that Finale (or at least Fin08, which is what I use) has a bug that the hyphens and word extensions only appear correctly on one linked part at a time. So

Re: [Finale] File conversion oddities

2011-07-08 Thread Robert Patterson
It looks to me like some of your groups for optimized staff systems didn't get transferred. TGTools will rebuild them for you if that's the case. On Fri, Jul 8, 2011 at 9:41 AM, Aaron Sherber aa...@sherber.com wrote: Hi all, Time to tap the collective wisdom. I have a score that was created

Re: [Finale] Perfect bug storm

2011-06-10 Thread Robert Patterson
...@earthlink.netwrote: Hi Robert, Is there a reason why you can't cut the paper first, then print? Cheers, - DJA - WEB: http://www.secretsocietymusic.org On 9 Jun 2011, at 11:34 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: So I've known for some time that Fin08 Mac has a bug that it prints blank pages under

Re: [Finale] Perfect bug storm

2011-06-10 Thread Robert Patterson
Does PDF995 have a Mac version? I haven't seen it. On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 6:38 AM, Phil Daley p_da...@tds.net wrote: At 6/9/2011 11:34 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: So I've known for some time that Fin08 Mac has a bug that it prints blank pages under certain conditions. The way to work around

Re: [Finale] Perfect bug storm

2011-06-10 Thread Robert Patterson
the ODD pages up to the left corner, while the EVEN pages are pushed up to the right corner, so I only have to make TWO cuts, but the computer gods are not with me. Let me know if this works for you, too. Christopher On Thu Jun 9, at ThursdayJun 9 11:34 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: So

[Finale] Perfect bug storm

2011-06-09 Thread Robert Patterson
So I've known for some time that Fin08 Mac has a bug that it prints blank pages under certain conditions. The way to work around it is to print to PDF with the Generic Postscript driver and then print the PDF with the proper printer driver. Here is how this bit me hard. I have a 10x13 score that

Re: [Finale] OT: Violin pizz range

2011-05-14 Thread Robert Patterson
all attack and no decay, but there was both plenty of sound and plenty of pitch. I think it will work well for me. I want to add zing to the attack on a flute sfz note. On Fri, May 13, 2011 at 1:16 PM, John Howell john.how...@vt.edu wrote: At 10:30 AM -0500 5/13/11, Robert Patterson wrote: I'm

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