Now that any idiot can push the button, he does. Colin Biggin, local hand
copyist who taught me everything I know (but not everything HE knew!)
Christopher
On Mon Jan 26, at MondayJan 26 6:06 AM, David H. Bailey wrote:
On 1/25/2015 11:55 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
[snip] The really curious
On 1/25/2015 11:55 PM, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
[snip] The really curious thing is that I'd say 18 of those
arrangements were
musically quite acceptable and some were outstanding artistically. It
seems a shame that the state of engraving should be so poor.
[snip]
It's especially shameful when
I appreciate everybody's ideas on the subject of percussion notation,
especially jazz drumset parts. It seems to me that there is not a best
practice. There are clearly some poor practices, and that
multi-measure rest thing is an example of that, which is why I asked for
help.
And there are
Exactly! And if there are figures after the 4th measure, a (4) placed over the
4th measure helps clarify things. I vacillate between overwriting for drummers
and not putting in things they need to remind them of what to play. I never
seem to get it just right. And there are some for whom
What Jef said x1000.
Multimeasure rests (instead of actual measures) in the drum part are the worst.
Just use slash marks, with a little (8) above the final measure of an
eight-measure system, etc.
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On Jan 23, 2015, at 4:14 PM, SN jef
On 1/25/2015 11:24 AM, Chuck Israels wrote:
Written music is an impoverished version of what we hear in good
performances. It’s a wonder we even come close.
Drum parts remain somewhat mysterious and are best tailored to the
drummer of the moment. That said, I agree that MM rests are rarely
All the generous, good humored and deeply informed help I (and so many others
on this list) have gotten from you since those days (how long ago!) more than
makes up for whatever fortunately intelligent remark I made then.
Trouble is - different drummers respond to notation differently. Some
Actually, Chuck, the very best advice I ever got about drum parts came from YOU
at the Orford summer jazz camp when I was just starting to write. I asked you
how to write drum parts and you said, You have to write enough information so
that he plays what you want, without writing so much that
For long periods of the same rhythm I use slashes, 8 bars a line or whatever is
structurally relevant, structural clues with thick barlines, big numbers at end
of line (in brackets) to indicate how many bars have passed.
Steve P.
On 23 Jan 2015, at 15:06, Craig Parmerlee cr...@parmerlee.com
Thanks Geoff. That is essentially the solution I stumbled on before I
saw your response.
I take you point about the possibility of making pencil marks
mid-section, but if there are important punches, I try to indicate them
anyway. I'm not sure I have seen a drummer with a pencil recently.
As a player, my preference would be to see single repeat marks in bars
instead of rests (staff style O).
In addition to Jef¹s suggestion, another option is to create a multi
measure rest. Then select the measure and apply the staff style to it. I
created expressions for 6X (for an 8-bar phrase,
I am looking at Guide to Standardized Drumset Notation by Norman
Weinberg. I have found this to be a very good guide.
I really dislike the slash notation or the repeat bar approach in most
cases because that means the drummer has to start at the chart to count
how many measures before the
On 1/23/2015 7:06 AM, Craig Parmerlee wrote:
In most of the big band charts I write, for the drummer I write a
measure or two with the suggest beat pattern, then turn the rest of the
measures into staff style Z so they will appear as a multi-measure rest
up to the next double bar. If there
This may be a pain, but what I might do is (after creating the multimeasure
rest), enter a note orrest in the first bar of it. (It can be a hidden.)
That causes the multimeas rest to disappear and you can then make it look
however you like. I do this for TACET passages where I don't want to show
simplest solution: since it isn't a rest, don't use MM rests :-) --
that would effectively distinguish it from a MM rest.
8 measures per system (for ex.) with no text indications or whatever
doesn't clutter the part. and if the band needs to start from a
particular measure in such a passage,
This is my method too, for the reasons jef suggests.
Chuck
On Jan 23, 2015, at 7:14 AM, SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.com
wrote:
simplest solution: since it isn't a rest, don't use MM rests :-) --
that would effectively distinguish it from a MM rest.
8 measures per
In most of the big band charts I write, for the drummer I write a
measure or two with the suggest beat pattern, then turn the rest of the
measures into staff style Z so they will appear as a multi-measure rest
up to the next double bar. If there are any important punches, I will
typically
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