Re: [Finale] Notation Question/Clarification

2017-06-27 Thread Blake Richardson
On Jun 24, 2017, at 10:00 AM, finale-requ...@shsu.edu wrote: > Send Finale mailing list submissions to > finale@shsu.edu > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale > or, via email, send a message with subject or

Re: [Finale] Notation Question/Clarification

2017-06-24 Thread Doug Walter
My guess would be that the first note in the RH is supposed to precede the first note in the LH, with the last note in the RH being played at the very end, totaling 8 separate notes. I think it's just notated a bit sloppily. Doug > On Jun 23, 2017, at 8:06 PM, Blake Richardson

Re: [Finale] Notation Question/Clarification

2017-06-24 Thread Haroldo Mauro
I see all 32nd notes, although it wouldn’t make any difference whether the last one is 16th or 32nd since they are all supposed to be held! I think he wrote 8 by mistake. It sohould be a 7. Or maybe he wrote 8 in a hurry as a reminder of 8ve higher and later indicated th 8ve on the left. On

Re: [Finale] Notation Question/Clarification

2017-06-24 Thread SN jef chippewa
the last note is a 32nd as well, also in the upper voice -- i see 2 tiny extensions, the lower one is barely there, but there nonetheless. i agree with david, just a hastily notated tuplet (there would be no need to indicate 8 for 8-let, since they are 32nds...). and def think the 1st notes

Re: [Finale] Notation Question/Clarification

2017-06-24 Thread Christopher Smith
Yes, that looks like it to me. Notice the first six notes are 32nds, while the last note is a 16th, so it does add up. The first note is a different note in the right hand, while the last note is just a unison. You caught the tiny, faded treble clef in the left hand, right? Christopher > On

Re: [Finale] Notation Question/Clarification

2017-06-24 Thread David H. Bailey
On 6/23/2017 11:06 PM, Blake Richardson wrote: > I can't figure out what's going on with this piano line from John Williams' > score to DRACULA. > > It looks like it's supposed to be some sort of octuplet, but there's only six > notes on the bottom and the top notes look like they're played in

[Finale] Notation Question/Clarification

2017-06-23 Thread Blake Richardson
I can't figure out what's going on with this piano line from John Williams' score to DRACULA. It looks like it's supposed to be some sort of octuplet, but there's only six notes on the bottom and the top notes look like they're played in unison with the first and last notes on the bottom.

Re: [Finale] Notation Question

2011-09-07 Thread John Howell
On Sep 6, 2011, at 2:30 PM, jhowell wrote: On Sep 4, 2011, at 4:23 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 4 Sep 2011 at 15:41, Darcy James Argue wrote: As for whether the Leslie speaker is a defining part of the Hammond sound, the only possible answer is of course. As Steve pointed out, every

Re: [Finale] Notation Question

2011-09-05 Thread Marcello Noia
As far as I know all Hammond players use Leslie (lately DeFrancesco is endorsing KeyB and Numa Hammond clones that have a nice digital leslie emulation). I read that Brian Auger does not use it, preferring guitar and bass amps or active speakers to get a fatter sound. Il 04/09/2011 20.11, Chuck

Re: [Finale] Notation Question

2011-09-04 Thread David H. Bailey
On 9/3/2011 7:37 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 4 Sep 2011 at 0:08, Steve Parker wrote: I would say that the Leslie is still a defining aspect of the classic Hammond sound. Apart from a period when Jon Lord stopped using a leslie, I can't think of any major Hammond artist for whom it wasn't a

Re: [Finale] Notation Question

2011-09-04 Thread Steve Parker
On 4 Sep 2011, at 00:37, David W. Fenton wrote: On 4 Sep 2011 at 0:08, Steve Parker wrote: I would say that the Leslie is still a defining aspect of the classic Hammond sound. Apart from a period when Jon Lord stopped using a leslie, I can't think of any major Hammond artist for whom it

Re: [Finale] Notation Question

2011-09-04 Thread Chuck Israels
Jimmy Smith, Joey DiFrancesco et al - do (did) they use the Leslie? Heard them and others for years (often playing joyous music) but never took notice of what they used to produce their sound. Chuck Sent from my iPhone On Sep 4, 2011, at 1:08 AM, Steve Parker st...@pinkrat.co.uk wrote: I

Re: [Finale] Notation Question

2011-09-04 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Chuck, Yes. It's worth taking a close look at the Leslie in person next time you see a Hammond player using one -- watching the rotating speaker go round and round is hypnotic and fascinating. As for whether the Leslie speaker is a defining part of the Hammond sound, the only possible

Re: [Finale] Notation Question

2011-09-04 Thread David W. Fenton
On 4 Sep 2011 at 15:41, Darcy James Argue wrote: As for whether the Leslie speaker is a defining part of the Hammond sound, the only possible answer is of course. As Steve pointed out, every single Hammond-playing artist of any note employed the Leslie speaker. Within a certain musical

[Finale] Notation Question

2011-09-03 Thread Blake Richardson
A question for those familiar with vibraphones. There's handwritten direction in the following score excerpt that I can't quite make out. It says, ___ on, pedal down, soft sticks, but I can't tell what the first word is. It's probably something obvious that I'm just not seeing, but any help

Re: [Finale] Notation Question

2011-09-03 Thread David H. Bailey
On 9/3/2011 6:56 AM, Blake Richardson wrote: A question for those familiar with vibraphones. There's handwritten direction in the following score excerpt that I can't quite make out. It says, ___ on, pedal down, soft sticks, but I can't tell what the first word is. It's probably something

Re: [Finale] Notation Question

2011-09-03 Thread Scott Jones
motor on. Sent from my iPad On Sep 3, 2011, at 6:56 AM, Blake Richardson btr1...@ix.netcom.com wrote: A question for those familiar with vibraphones. There's handwritten direction in the following score excerpt that I can't quite make out. It says, ___ on, pedal down, soft sticks, but I

Re: [Finale] Notation Question

2011-09-03 Thread Giovanni Andreani
The link don't work for me either Giovanni Andreani On 3 Sep 2011, at 13:25, David H. Bailey dhbai...@davidbaileymusicstudio.com wrote: On 9/3/2011 6:56 AM, Blake Richardson wrote: A question for those familiar with vibraphones. There's handwritten direction in the following score excerpt

Re: [Finale] Notation Question

2011-09-03 Thread SN jef chippewa
The link don't work for me either http://gallery.me.com/btr1701#100039/Jaws.Vibebgcolor=black definitely motor... actually that particular word for me is the clearest thing in the image 8-) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Notation Question

2011-09-03 Thread arabushka
motor? Blake Richardson btr1...@ix.netcom.com wrote: A question for those familiar with vibraphones. There's handwritten direction in the following score excerpt that I can't quite make out. It says, ___ on, pedal down, soft sticks, but I can't tell what the first word is. It's

Re: [Finale] Notation Question

2011-09-03 Thread John Howell
At 3:56 AM -0700 9/3/11, Blake Richardson wrote: A question for those familiar with vibraphones. There's handwritten direction in the following score excerpt that I can't quite make out. It says, ___ on, pedal down, soft sticks, but I can't tell what the first word is. It's probably something

Re: [Finale] Notation Question

2011-09-03 Thread Blake Richardson
On Sep 3, 2011, at 10:00 AM, finale-requ...@shsu.edu finale-requ...@shsu.edu wrote: From: SN jef chippewa shirl...@newmusicnotation.com Date: September 3, 2011 5:29:01 AM PDT To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Notation Question Reply-To: finale@shsu.edu The link don't work

Re: [Finale] Notation Question

2011-09-03 Thread Klaus Smedegaard Bjerre
Some have signed up with the same supplier of server space, some have not. I was told I needed a paid subscription to see your file. Klaus From: Blake Richardson btr1...@ix.netcom.com As for the link not working, it's weird that some people could see it

Re: [Finale] Notation Question

2011-09-03 Thread SN jef chippewa
i accessed it with no account, quite often moving up a level in a wrongly indicated or unavailable address gets you to a page where the file or link is listed, that is how i found it (removed 10039 from the original link to access the account of btr1701 [blake t. richardson])

Re: [Finale] Notation Question

2011-09-03 Thread John Howell
At 10:43 AM -0700 9/3/11, Blake Richardson wrote: I didn't even know the instrument had a motor. All I know about vibraphones is that they're analogous to xylophones/marimbas with a different sound/timbre. Well, it's a metallophone--metal bars instead of wood or plastic--so that explains the

Re: [Finale] Notation Question

2011-09-03 Thread Steve Parker
Did you know that Laurens Hammond didn't approve of the Leslie and did not permit official Hammond dealers to stock them! He felt it was a more serious instrument.. Steve P. On 3 Sep 2011, at 19:14, John Howell wrote: At 10:43 AM -0700 9/3/11, Blake Richardson wrote: I didn't even know the

Re: [Finale] Notation Question

2011-09-03 Thread Raymond Horton
Vibes and motor, all true, but in serious music vibes are assumed to have the motor off unless specified on. Raymond Horton On 3 Sep 2011, at 19:14, John Howell wrote: At 10:43 AM -0700 9/3/11, Blake Richardson wrote: I didn't even know the instrument had a motor. All I know about

Re: [Finale] Notation Question

2011-09-03 Thread David W. Fenton
On 3 Sep 2011 at 14:14, John Howell wrote: Just as the rotating Leslie speakers and their vibrato are a defining aspect of the classic Hammond Organ sound. Actually, that's not true. The classic Hammond organ sound predates the invention of the Leslie speader, and Leslie speakers are used

Re: [Finale] Notation Question

2011-09-03 Thread Steve Parker
I would say that the Leslie is still a defining aspect of the classic Hammond sound. Apart from a period when Jon Lord stopped using a leslie, I can't think of any major Hammond artist for whom it wasn't a defining part of their sound. Steve P. On 3 Sep 2011, at 21:59, David W. Fenton wrote:

Re: [Finale] Notation Question

2011-09-03 Thread David W. Fenton
On 4 Sep 2011 at 0:08, Steve Parker wrote: I would say that the Leslie is still a defining aspect of the classic Hammond sound. Apart from a period when Jon Lord stopped using a leslie, I can't think of any major Hammond artist for whom it wasn't a defining part of their sound. Have you ever

Re: [Finale] Notation Question

2011-09-03 Thread A-NO-NE Music
On 2011/09/03(土), at 後4:59, David W. Fenton wrote: On 3 Sep 2011 at 14:14, John Howell wrote: Just as the rotating Leslie speakers and their vibrato are a defining aspect of the classic Hammond Organ sound. Actually, that's not true. The classic Hammond organ sound predates the

[Finale] Notation question -- sort of OT

2010-12-21 Thread Barbara Levy
Hello, everyone. I've run into a symbol on an oboe part that I've never seen before..it's a flat sign with a caret or marcato accent at the top of the stem. I don't think it's a misprint since the composer provided a special fingering for the note. The Dolmesch library

Re: [Finale] Notation question -- sort of OT

2010-12-21 Thread Ryan
My guess is that the caret is supposed to be an arrowhead indicating that the note is to be raised a quarter tone. For example, if the symbol is on the note B, it should be a quarter tone up from Bb. On Tue, Dec 21, 2010 at 11:12 AM, Barbara Levy barb...@msn.com wrote: Hello,

Re: [Finale] Notation question -- sort of OT

2010-12-21 Thread SN jef chippewa
probably a (tempered) quarter tone. depending on the composer and context it could also be a non-tempered microtonal inflection... could also be a 6th or 8th tone. but i would also assume quarter tone if you can't find any other information. if you can conclude for certain that it is a

Re: [Finale] Notation question -- sort of OT

2010-12-21 Thread Steve Parker
Who is the composer? That would likely determine wether it is a tempered quarter tone or notation for a just interval. Steve Parker On 21 Dec 2010, at 19:12, Barbara Levy wrote: Hello, everyone. I've run into a symbol on an oboe part that I've never seen

Re: [Finale] Notation question

2007-02-13 Thread dhbailey
dc wrote: I have a piece in 2/4 with a half note that starts after an eighth note rest. What's the best way to notate to make it easily readable? Leave the half note shifted off the beat, or break it down to tied values (8+4+8)? I'm confused as to how you can have a half-note which starts

Re: [Finale] Notation question

2007-02-13 Thread shirling neueweise
I have a piece in 2/4 with a half note that starts after an eighth note rest. What's the best way to notate to make it easily readable? Leave the half note shifted off the beat, or break it down to tied values (8+4+8)? half note shifted off-beat!?!? musicians will hate you. they don't

Re: [Finale] Notation question

2007-02-13 Thread Barbara Touburg
In 2|2, it is perfectly allright wo write 8th rest dotted quarter because they are both within one beat/tactus. dc wrote: shirling neueweise écrit: if it only happens once, you might prefer: 8th rest + 8th_q_|_8th Thanks. This is indeed what I did, but on proofreading the score I was

Re: [Finale] Notation question

2007-02-13 Thread Christopher Smith
On 13-Feb-07, at 4:54 PM, dc wrote: dhbailey écrit: I'm confused as to how you can have a half-note which starts after an 8th rest in a 2/4 measure -- that's 2.5 beats right there. If it's really 2/4 meter then you'd have to do: 8th-rest, 8th-note-

Re: [Finale] Notation question

2007-02-13 Thread Barbara Touburg
Yeah, that is what I was trying to say. Dutch. Hm. Christopher Smith wrote: I would definitely write it eighth rest, dotted quarter tied to eighth. No need to show the second quarter in the measure by writing eighth rest, eighth tied to quarter tied to eighth. But you DO have to see the

Re: [Finale] Notation question

2007-02-13 Thread shirling neueweise
I would definitely write it eighth rest, dotted quarter tied to eighth. No need to show the second quarter in the measure by writing eighth rest, eighth tied to quarter tied to eighth. totally agree. however, if a large chamber music score, it can be useful to line up things vertically

Re: [Finale] Notation question

2007-02-13 Thread Aaron Rabushka
[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2007 6:22 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Notation question I would definitely write it eighth rest, dotted quarter tied to eighth. No need to show the second quarter in the measure by writing eighth rest, eighth tied to quarter tied

Re: [Finale] Notation question: beams for flags

2005-05-15 Thread Rich Caldwell
Shouldn't DocOptsBeamsUse Straight Flags do this? I tried it, but Maestro and Engraver don't seem to have straight flags. -Rich At 07:48 AM 5/15/05 -0400, John Howell wrote: I played a concert Saturday night, and ran into something I've never seen before. I'm wondering whether it's something

Re: [Finale] Notation question: beams for flags

2005-05-15 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 10:54 AM 05/15/2005, Rich Caldwell wrote: Shouldn't DocOptsBeamsUse Straight Flags do this? I tried it, but Maestro and Engraver don't seem to have straight flags. Where do you see such an option? Are you referring to Flatten all beams? That is something different entirely -- it forces all

Re: [Finale] Notation question: beams for flags

2005-05-15 Thread Rich Caldwell
Maybe it isn't in all versions? FinMac 2005b here. Document Options --- Flags --- Flag Type [right at the top] I guess one can also choose any characters you want globally for flags here, but only for 8ths and 16ths. I notice that if you use the Jazz font, some strange straight flags appear,

Re: [Finale] Notation question: beams for flags

2005-05-15 Thread Michael Cook
Use Straight Flags is in Document Options Flags. You also need to change the flag font (Document Options Fonts) to Tamburo, choose the characters for the straight upstem and downstem flags from the Music Characters popup in Document Options Flags and adjust the positioning in the Flag

Re: [Finale] Notation question: beams for flags

2005-05-15 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 11:35 AM 05/15/2005, Rich Caldwell wrote: Maybe it isn't in all versions? FinMac 2005b here. Document Options --- Flags --- Flag Type [right at the top] Ah -- your earlier post said Doc Options | BEAMS. If you look at the help file for this screen, you'll see that 'Use Straight Flags' only

Re: [Finale] Notation question: beams for flags

2005-05-15 Thread David W. Fenton
On 15 May 2005 at 11:35, Rich Caldwell wrote: Maybe it isn't in all versions? FinMac 2005b here. Document Options --- Flags --- Flag Type [right at the top] I guess one can also choose any characters you want globally for flags here, but only for 8ths and 16ths. I notice that if you use

Re: [Finale] notation question

2005-04-19 Thread Michael Cook
On 18 avr. 05, at 23:14, Christopher Smith wrote: But back at you, in the key of C would YOU spell the bII7 chord as Db-F-Ab-Cb when there is a perfectly good and functional leading tone B in the key signature? If the next chord is C major I'd certainly spell it with a B, since the B would be

Re: [Finale] notation question

2005-04-19 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 19 Apr 2005, at 3:17 AM, Michael Cook wrote: On 18 avr. 05, at 23:14, Christopher Smith wrote: But back at you, in the key of C would YOU spell the bII7 chord as Db-F-Ab-Cb when there is a perfectly good and functional leading tone B in the key signature? If the next chord is C major I'd

[Finale] notation question

2005-04-18 Thread Eden - Lawrence D.
Fellow Listers, I am often undecided about using sharps as accidentals in flat keys and using flats in sharp keys. I prefer to simplify the notation, substituting B for Cb, for example, but I want to know what is the correct way to make the decision. I want my parts to be easily read and played

Re: [Finale] notation question

2005-04-18 Thread dhbailey
Eden - Lawrence D. wrote: Fellow Listers, I am often undecided about using sharps as accidentals in flat keys and using flats in sharp keys. I prefer to simplify the notation, substituting B for Cb, for example, but I want to know what is the correct way to make the decision. I want my parts to be

Re: [Finale] notation question

2005-04-18 Thread Christopher Smith
On Apr 18, 2005, at 7:19 AM, Eden - Lawrence D. wrote: Fellow Listers, I am often undecided about using sharps as accidentals in flat keys and using flats in sharp keys. I prefer to simplify the notation, substituting B for Cb, for example, but I want to know what is the correct way to make

Re: [Finale] notation question

2005-04-18 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Eden - Lawrence D. / 05.4.18 / 07:19 AM wrote: I am often undecided about using sharps as accidentals in flat keys and using flats in sharp keys. I prefer to simplify the notation, substituting B for Cb, for example, but I want to know what is the correct way to make the decision. I want my

RE: [Finale] notation question

2005-04-18 Thread Williams, Jim
: Subject: Re: [Finale] notation question Eden - Lawrence D. wrote: Fellow Listers, I am often undecided about using sharps as accidentals in flat keys and using flats in sharp keys. I prefer to simplify

Re: [Finale] notation question

2005-04-18 Thread A-NO-NE Music
There is one other style worth noted. Take the music into totally super horizontal. In this context, the vertical harmonic structure is rather ignored, thus accidentals are not given according to the vertical harmonic structure. If no obvious clue of the key of the moment is visually affecting

Re: [Finale] notation question

2005-04-18 Thread dhbailey
Williams, Jim wrote: [snip] Here's a question--I find myself writing fewer roadmaps in general since using software. Cut-and-paste works well! Some people rag on me for this since they want to know if something is a recap or some such. My response is always if you can't tell what it is, turn your

Re: [Finale] notation question

2005-04-18 Thread Michael Cook
On 18 avr. 05, at 15:33, Williams, Jim wrote: For music to be performed at sight or on only one readthrough, I will simplify spelling (this problem arises most often in diminished constructions or substitute harmonies) unless the simplification is grossly misleading (of course, I will do the F#

Re: [Finale] notation question

2005-04-18 Thread Chuck Israels
On Apr 18, 2005, at 6:33 AM, Williams, Jim wrote: Here's a question--I find myself writing fewer roadmaps in general since using software. . Am I alone in my abandonment of roadmaps? Jim I haven't abandoned them entirely, when the structure is simple enough. But I write out the things

Re: [Finale] notation question

2005-04-18 Thread Brad Beyenhof
On Mon, 18 Apr 2005 07:19:40 -0400, Eden - Lawrence D. wrote: I am often undecided about using sharps as accidentals in flat keys and using flats in sharp keys. I prefer to simplify the notation, substituting B for Cb,

Re: [Finale] notation question

2005-04-18 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 18 Apr 2005, at 8:48 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: For jazz things get hairy, as tritone substitute dominant chords should be correctly spelled as if they were augmented sixth chords, e.g., in the key of C a Db7 chord would be spelled Db, F, Ab, B (not Cb). Many jazz musicians freely use

Re: [Finale] notation question

2005-04-18 Thread David W. Fenton
On 18 Apr 2005 at 8:48, Christopher Smith wrote: I.Generally, tertian chords are spelled in 3rds from the root up. But the roots of ambiguous sounding chords (especially aug. triads and o7 chords) are sometimes controversial and, then, so are their spellings. I have to disagree with this

Re: [Finale] notation question

2005-04-18 Thread David W. Fenton
On 18 Apr 2005 at 10:19, dhbailey wrote: Williams, Jim wrote: [snip] Here's a question--I find myself writing fewer roadmaps in general since using software. Cut-and-paste works well! Some people rag on me for this since they want to know if something is a recap or some such. My

Re: [Finale] notation question

2005-04-18 Thread Don Hart
When I first started using Finale in the dark ages of 1988, :-) I tended to repeat larger sections (choruses or verses) of the pieces I worked on, and was very happy to get away from the use of col bars. However, the major reason I avoided repeats was the difficulty, without the availability of

Re: [Finale] notation question

2005-04-18 Thread Christopher Smith
On Apr 18, 2005, at 2:29 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 18 Apr 2005, at 8:48 AM, Christopher Smith wrote: For jazz things get hairy, as tritone substitute dominant chords should be correctly spelled as if they were augmented sixth chords, e.g., in the key of C a Db7 chord would be spelled Db,

Re: [Finale] notation question

2005-04-18 Thread Christopher Smith
On Apr 18, 2005, at 3:20 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: On 18 Apr 2005 at 8:48, Christopher Smith wrote: I. Generally, tertian chords are spelled in 3rds from the root up. But the roots of ambiguous sounding chords (especially aug. triads and o7 chords) are sometimes controversial and, then, so

Re: [Finale] notation question

2005-04-18 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 18 Apr 2005, at 5:14 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: On Apr 18, 2005, at 2:29 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Wow, do you really follow that rule consistently? I mean, in the key of Db, would you spell the bII7 chord D-F#-A-B#? No, because to be painfully correctly spelled, it would be an Ebb7

Re: [Finale] notation question

2005-04-18 Thread Christopher Smith
On Apr 18, 2005, at 5:50 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 18 Apr 2005, at 5:14 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: But back at you, in the key of C would YOU spell the bII7 chord as Db-F-Ab-Cb On a piano or guitar part, absolutely -- no hesitation, no question. On chordal parts, I spell dominant 7th