Re: [Finale] tie end missing

2008-04-06 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hmm. Shows what I know. I just checked, and "Check Ties" doesn't, in fact, get rid of the tie in the situation I described. It does, however, get rid of the tie if you try to tie a Db to a D nat. within the same bar. I also note, for the first time and with some annoyance, that trying to

Re: [Finale] tie end missing

2008-04-06 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 6 Apr 2008, at 7:50 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: It was also across a system break. You CAN tie two different notes across a barline (or not!) if both bars are in the same system. Technically, actually, you can't. Sure, if you try to tie from a Db in m.1 to D nat. in m.2, it *looks* li

Re: [Finale] tie end missing

2008-04-06 Thread Christopher Smith
On Apr 6, 2008, at 7:15 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: On 6 Apr 2008, at 2:25 PM, John Howell wrote: The obvious way to get the program to operate properly, then, is to insert a repeated accidental on the note that's supposed to be tied, right? No. I may be missing something. I often a

Re: [Finale] tie end missing

2008-04-06 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 6 Apr 2008, at 2:25 PM, John Howell wrote: The obvious way to get the program to operate properly, then, is to insert a repeated accidental on the note that's supposed to be tied, right? No. I may be missing something. I often am. Say you have a Db tied to a D natural (presumably b

Re: [Finale] tie end missing

2008-04-06 Thread John Howell
At 6:54 AM -0400 4/6/08, dhbailey wrote: One thing about notation programs (Sibelius does similar things) is that they can be too darned literal in their efforts to help save us from ourselves, even when we don't need saving. We should be allowed to enter a tie even it the two notes next to

Re: [Finale] tie end missing

2008-04-06 Thread Christopher Smith
On Apr 6, 2008, at 6:54 AM, dhbailey wrote: A tie goes from one note to the next note, so it isn't as if it's a great philosophical problem for the software to know where to draw it. It should remain horizontal (parallel to the staff lines) regardless of the pitches of the two notes and w

Re: [Finale] tie end missing

2008-04-06 Thread dhbailey
dc wrote: Darcy James Argue écrit: Are the ties the same note, or are you trying to tie an enharmonic equivalent (C# to Db, for instance)? That's it! I just checked, and realize that the accidental was missing on the second note! Many thanks, Darcy. And sorry for the stupid question! Wh

Re: [Finale] tie end missing

2008-04-05 Thread Christopher Smith
It was a choral piece with some strange splits, and if I had changed that note then I would have had to have changed the lyric assignment, which would have meant hyphens repeating (earlier version of Finale) and extension lines either not occurring or needlessly occurring, and I would have

Re: [Finale] tie end missing

2008-04-05 Thread Darcy James Argue
Any reason you couldn't have just moved those eight tied whole notes to the same layer as the first note in the tie chain? Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 5 Apr 2008, at 7:56 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: On Apr 5, 2008, at 7:46 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi Ch

Re: [Finale] tie end missing

2008-04-05 Thread Christopher Smith
On Apr 5, 2008, at 7:46 PM, Darcy James Argue wrote: Hi Chris, You can tie forward from any note you wish, but Finale only display tie ends (a backwards tie at the beginning of a system) if the tie is a valid tie. If you're trying to tie Db to D natural across a system, the forward tie o

Re: [Finale] tie end missing

2008-04-05 Thread Darcy James Argue
Hi Chris, You can tie forward from any note you wish, but Finale only display tie ends (a backwards tie at the beginning of a system) if the tie is a valid tie. If you're trying to tie Db to D natural across a system, the forward tie on the Db will display but the tie end going to the D n

Re: [Finale] tie end missing

2008-04-05 Thread Christopher Smith
On Apr 5, 2008, at 4:09 PM, dc wrote: Darcy James Argue écrit: Are the ties the same note, or are you trying to tie an enharmonic equivalent (C# to Db, for instance)? That's it! I just checked, and realize that the accidental was missing on the second note! Many thanks, Darcy. And sorry

Re: [Finale] tie end missing

2008-04-05 Thread Darcy James Argue
Are you sure the previous measure is rhythmically complete? Are the ties the same note, or are you trying to tie an enharmonic equivalent (C# to Db, for instance)? Are you trying to tie two notes that are in different layers? Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 5 Apr

Re: [Finale] tie end missing

2008-04-02 Thread Christopher Smith
On Apr 1, 2008, at 9:19 AM, dc wrote: I have a tie end missing at the beginning of a new system. I tried removingt the tie and then adding it back (both from the first note and from the second note), updating the layout each time, but it won't appear. I've think I've already seen this pr

RE: [Finale] tie end missing - 2nd try

2008-04-02 Thread Richard Yates
>Christopher Smith écrit: >>But the fix is the same. Put a forward tie on the note, then >reverse it >>with the Special Tools>Ties. > >OK, but how does one reverse a tie? The only settings I see >are for flipping it or changing the contour. > Use the Tie Tool and drag the right end to the lef

Re: [Finale] tie end missing - 2nd try

2008-04-02 Thread Christopher Smith
On Apr 2, 2008, at 7:52 AM, dc wrote: Christopher Smith écrit: But the fix is the same. Put a forward tie on the note, then reverse it with the Special Tools>Ties. OK, but how does one reverse a tie? The only settings I see are for flipping it or changing the contour. Click on the Spec

Re: [Finale] tie end missing - 2nd try

2008-04-02 Thread Christopher Smith
On Apr 2, 2008, at 2:02 AM, dc wrote: I have a tie end missing at the beginning of a new system. I tried removingt the tie and then adding it back (both from the first note and from the second note), updating the layout each time, but it won't appear. I've think I've already seen this pr