Re: [Finale] Finale 2009/Win XP

2011-08-11 Thread David W. Fenton
On 10 Aug 2011 at 21:01, Mariposa Symphony Orchestra wrote: Lately, upon closing any Finale file, I get the following pop-up: SmartHeap Library MEM_BAD_POINTER Beats the hell outta me. Ideas? Googling on SmartHeap Library MEM_BAD_POINTER returns a whole host of results. Have

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009/Win XP

2011-08-11 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Thu, August 11, 2011 2:13 pm, Mariposa Symphony Orchestra wrote: As I only have this pop-up occur when closing Finale files, I had wondered if/how others had dealt with the problemif in fact anyone else has. I haven't, but when/how did it start? There's a fix for another program that

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009/Win XP

2011-08-11 Thread Mariposa Symphony Orchestra
://tinyurl.com/ygpj7og Mariposa Symphony Orchestra: http://arts-mariposa.org/symphony.html - Original Message - From: Dennis Bathory-Kitsz bath...@maltedmedia.com To: finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, August 11, 2011 11:16 AM Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 2009/Win XP On Thu, August 11, 2011 2

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009/Win XP

2011-08-11 Thread David W. Fenton
On 11 Aug 2011 at 11:13, Mariposa Symphony Orchestra wrote: I had googled for solutions specific to my edition (XP, SP3) before writing the list, but the most-prevalent 'solution' was to apply a Microsoft hotfix which - upon unzipping, was a fix that pre-dated my most current (XP) update.

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009/2010 conflicts with Mac standard user accounts

2010-01-15 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Instead of setting them up again, they are stored in username/Library/Audo/MIDI Configurations. You could make a simple Applescript to copy files to that destination. Though you'd have to have someway to redo the permissions on the file first. Though if all the computers are THE SAME in the lab,

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009/2010 conflicts with Mac standard user accounts

2010-01-15 Thread Matt Wilson
You can apply the Red and Write permissions to the entire folder and all that is contained inside. It's only two actual files I believe that cause the problem, though I do not remember which. Just do a Get Info on the folder, change the permission and Apply to Enclosed. This does need to be redone

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009/2010 conflicts with Mac standard user accounts

2010-01-15 Thread Gerhard Torges
Hi! Am 15.01.2010 um 15:57 schrieb Ken Parsons: I contacted Finale tech. support, who said that Read and Write permissions on Finale needed to be enabled for all users. Then Finale is broken. User Software has to be able to run in user accounts. We've already lost three class periods to

RE: [Finale] FINALE 2009 - Measures

2009-02-23 Thread Williams, Jim
You do mean 1/4 and not 1/1, yes? It should be 1/4 if it isn't. Jim From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of noel jones [gede...@usit.net] Sent: Monday, February 23, 2009 11:39 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: [Finale] FINALE

Re: [Finale] FINALE 2009 - Measures

2009-02-23 Thread noel jones
Ah yes,! Thanks. On Feb 23, 2009, at 11:54 AM, Williams, Jim wrote: You do mean 1/4 and not 1/1, yes? It should be 1/4 if it isn't. Jim From: finale-boun...@shsu.edu [finale-boun...@shsu.edu] On Behalf Of noel jones [gede...@usit.net] Sent: Monday,

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 bugs?

2009-01-05 Thread Robert Patterson
Click on the staff (inside the music). MM capriciously changed this behavior on purpose in Fin09. On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 2:39 AM, Bonnie Janofsky brjanof...@sbcglobal.net wrote: I started working in Finale 2009 since the apparent conflicts between earlier versions and my new Intel laptop - 2.5

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 bugs?

2009-01-05 Thread Christopher Smith
To be more specific, you have to click to the RIGHT of the time signature, on the staff for staff reduction and between the staves for system reduction. Complain about this, as the documentation doesn't even mention it, either. BTW, even if you didn't know this, you could still change

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 offer

2008-10-08 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Hmm, I haven't received anything from them. The deal breaker though is that TG Tools isn't working fully with 2009. When it does, I might upgrade from 2007 to 2009 Michael Greensill wrote: This is the first time I haven't automatically bought the up-grade. And I guess I'm not the only one

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 questions/issues

2008-08-05 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Aug 3, 2008, at 6:06 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FWIW, I have once encountered a need to go above 4 layers. I don't remember the context. I eventually worked around it, but everytime I subsequently wanted to make changes to this, it was a pain. I never thought much about it, as it was

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 questions/issues

2008-08-05 Thread Barbara Touburg
Andrew Stiller wrote: See Bach, WTC fugue XXII, for example. Once i had to engrave a piece for organ. It had longs chords of 4, 5, sometimes 6 notes, gradually shifting to other chords, one note at a time. I wished we could have 6 layers!

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 questions/issues

2008-08-05 Thread Jari Williamsson
Robert Patterson wrote: On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 8:16 AM, Jari Williamsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you added a woodwind part and needed the same elsewhere, you could copy the expressions from an existing woodwind staff. Now you are just rationalizing. Clearly for this case a staff set

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 questions/issues

2008-08-05 Thread Robert Patterson
I agree that staff lists are probably not the best solution for dynamics. (I never used them for dynamics myself.) Where I see the need for removing the limit is for special group-level performance instructions or group-level tempo marks if a sub-group is moving at a different tempo. The problem

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 questions/issues

2008-08-04 Thread Jari Williamsson
Barbara Touburg wrote: I can't think of a recent example, but I can imagine changes in instrumentation in an orchestral piece, where I would have a staff list all woodwinds, I could quickly add an instrument if needed, by simply changing the assignment definition. With drag-assigning I would

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 questions/issues

2008-08-04 Thread Robert Patterson
On Mon, Aug 4, 2008 at 8:16 AM, Jari Williamsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If you added a woodwind part and needed the same elsewhere, you could copy the expressions from an existing woodwind staff. Now you are just rationalizing. Clearly for this case a staff set would be the better solution.

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 questions/issues

2008-08-03 Thread kaub001
FWIW, I have once encountered a need to go above 4 layers. I don't remember the context. I eventually worked around it, but everytime I subsequently wanted to make changes to this, it was a pain. I never thought much about it, as it was quite rare for me, but it always struck me as odd. IIRC, I

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 questions/issues

2008-08-02 Thread Jari Williamsson
Matthew Hindson fastmail acct wrote: I downloaded the demo and checked it out. But it raised a few questions/issues which maybe arose during Finale 2008, I'm not sure. - Does everyone else have the Garamond font for the items in the Setup Wizard? (Yuk! Great printing font, horrible screen

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 questions/issues

2008-08-02 Thread Robert Patterson
Jari Williamsson wrote: Agreed, although I don't understand why everyone seems to focus on staff lists. I have actually vowed to stop talking about staff lists. I unsubscribed from the relevant thread over on the forum. But the why is this. I cannot remember any feature in the prior 20

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 questions/issues

2008-08-02 Thread Barbara Touburg
Robert Patterson wrote: Finally, it almost surely *is* an artificial limit. I am virtually certainly I could write a plugin that allowed you to maintain, associate, and name as many staff lists as you like. (I never would write this plugin because those files would not be supported by MM or

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 questions/issues

2008-08-02 Thread Robert Patterson
Barbara Touburg wrote: Then I respectfully and urgently ask you do so, Robert! I can't imagine working WITTHOUT the staff lists! They are like style sheets to me! Ha, ha. This is one of those cases of be careful what you ask for, because I am half tempted to try. Even though it would

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 questions/issues

2008-08-02 Thread Barbara Touburg
Robert Patterson wrote: Ha, ha. This is one of those cases of be careful what you ask for, because I am half tempted to try. Even though it would probably work, any file you saved could not be supported by me and would not be supported by MM. And because Finale's UI is expecting to find

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 questions/issues

2008-08-02 Thread Robert Patterson
Barbara Touburg wrote: Why couldn't you support those files? Because I could not guarantee that MM would upgrade them correctly in Fin10 (assuming there will be one), or that MM would not deliberately prevent a plugin from doing what I have in mind. They could do either. Nor could I

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 questions/issues

2008-08-02 Thread Barbara Touburg
Robert Patterson wrote: Barbara Touburg wrote: Why couldn't you support those files? Because I could not guarantee that MM would upgrade them correctly in Fin10 (assuming there will be one), or that MM would not deliberately prevent a plugin from doing what I have in mind. They could do

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 questions/issues

2008-08-02 Thread Robert Patterson
I would urge you to put together an even more specific set of requirements for how you use staff lists and post it to the Finale support forum. They need to hear from impacted users. I find particularly compelling your continuo example with the hidden playback staves. Drag-apply simply does

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 questions/issues

2008-08-02 Thread John Howell
At 8:26 AM -0500 8/2/08, Robert Patterson wrote: Jari Williamsson wrote: Agreed, although I don't understand why everyone seems to focus on staff lists. I have actually vowed to stop talking about staff lists. I unsubscribed from the relevant thread over on the forum. But the why is

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 questions/issues

2008-08-02 Thread Jari Williamsson
Robert Patterson wrote: Jari Williamsson wrote: Agreed, although I don't understand why everyone seems to focus on staff lists. I have actually vowed to stop talking about staff lists. I unsubscribed from the relevant thread over on the forum. But the why is this. I cannot remember any

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 questions/issues

2008-08-02 Thread Robert Patterson
Er um, my noisy posts both on this list and on the public forums included direct quotes of MM folks that I believed said it (by circumlocution of course). I'll let you check your own deleted folder. I'm too tired of the subject to check mine. ;-) RP John Howell wrote: Has MakeMusic actually

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 questions/issues

2008-08-01 Thread Chuck Israels
On Aug 1, 2008, at 6:11 PM, Matthew Hindson fastmail acct wrote: I downloaded the demo and checked it out. But it raised a few questions/issues which maybe arose during Finale 2008, I'm not sure. - Does everyone else have the Garamond font for the items in the Setup Wizard? (Yuk! Great

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 Mac Firewire/Intel issue?

2008-07-29 Thread Leigh Daniels
Bob, this isn't directly an answer to your question but my work-around in 2008 was to leave my Metric Halo FireWire audio interface set in Audio MIDI Setup as the default input and output device. Then I ran a cable from the built-in Line Out of my Mac Pro into the interface. I still have to select

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-20 Thread Christopher Smith
On Jul 10, 2008, at 3:26 PM, J D Thomas wrote: I feel the need to amend my last statement. I got an email from MM announcing Finale 2009, and registered 2007 users can use a special upgrade code, F2K9U7, and get the 2009 upgrade for $100 plus s/h. Alas, I'll still wait for the first

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-20 Thread Adam Golding
2008/7/16 Aaron Sherber [EMAIL PROTECTED]: At 01:39 PM 7/16/2008, Chuck Israels wrote: I am another committed Speedy Entry user who has attempted using Simple Entry a few times and quickly abandoned it. Tom Johnson told me a couple of years ago that the long term plan was to make Simple have

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-17 Thread chris
gt;A long-time lurker here - I also have tried Simple Entry, only to get gt;completely bamboozled and lose my temper and immediately revert to Speedy. I tried Speedy once, never made it through 10 bars. Simple Entry is sublime in it's simplicity. / Chris B

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-17 Thread dhbailey
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: gt;A long-time lurker here - I also have tried Simple Entry, only to get gt;completely bamboozled and lose my temper and immediately revert to Speedy. I tried Speedy once, never made it through 10 bars. Simple Entry is sublime in it's simplicity. / Chris B

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-16 Thread dhbailey
Ray Horton wrote: Fisher, Allen wrote: Eric-- I'd really like to know who told you that we were dropping Speedy. This FUD has been spread on the public forum as well. I think it's been added to the Barack Obama is a Muslim email. RBH P. S. For anyone else, like myself, who hadn't

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-16 Thread dhbailey
Fisher, Allen wrote: Eric-- I'd really like to know who told you that we were dropping Speedy. This FUD has been spread on the public forum as well. I can guess how the rumor got started -- in the promo material for Fin2009 on the web-site, on the page dealing with Note Entry, there is a

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 - what about bugs?

2008-07-16 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 15.07.2008 Robert Patterson wrote: I am concerned specifically that a reinvented and streamlined expression tool will not be capable of upgrading an existing file without requiring the file to be re-proofed for errors in placement of expressions. I must say that doesn't bother me any more.

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 - what about bugs?

2008-07-16 Thread Robert Patterson
I disagree that it has been like this with every update. Reproofing was a significant headache with all updates from v1.0 to roughly Fin97. I'm not talking about subtleties. Spacing would be screwed up, or accidentals and expressions jumped around. I actually had to write a custom plugin to

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-16 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Excellent point. How many people actually find that MicNotator thing useful? I've tried it once or twice and it was terrible.. On Wed, Jul 16, 2008 at 2:22 AM, dhbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fisher, Allen wrote: Eric-- I'd really like to know who told you that we were dropping

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-16 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 16.07.2008 dhbailey wrote: I can guess how the rumor got started -- in the promo material for Fin2009 on the web-site, on the page dealing with Note Entry, there is a tab for Simple Entry, for Hyperscribe, for MicNotator and for Scanning. No mention of Speedy Entry at all. And since

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 - what about bugs?

2008-07-16 Thread Fiskum, Steve
My experience is that FIN2008b is the best at upgrading files from 3.5.2 on up. I've spent most of this year upgrading large numbers of old 3.5.2 choral files directly into 2008b with great success. No other version could retain most of the look on the page. Yes, there are a few issues (text

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-16 Thread Chuck Israels
On Jul 16, 2008, at 2:43 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Furthermore, I remember that we were at least half-officially told that Speedy entry will not be further developed in any future versions of Finale, as it had been decided to go Simple, and to convert people over to Simple. This was

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-16 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 01:39 PM 7/16/2008, Chuck Israels wrote: I am another committed Speedy Entry user who has attempted using Simple Entry a few times and quickly abandoned it. Tom Johnson told me a couple of years ago that the long term plan was to make Simple have an option that would allow pitch first, then

RE: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-16 Thread Fisher, Allen
LOL! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Ray Horton Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2008 9:41 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 Fisher, Allen wrote: Eric-- I'd really like to know who told you that we were dropping Speedy

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-16 Thread dhbailey
Chuck Israels wrote: On Jul 16, 2008, at 2:43 AM, Johannes Gebauer wrote: Furthermore, I remember that we were at least half-officially told that Speedy entry will not be further developed in any future versions of Finale, as it had been decided to go Simple, and to convert people over

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-16 Thread dhbailey
Aaron Sherber wrote: At 01:39 PM 7/16/2008, Chuck Israels wrote: I am another committed Speedy Entry user who has attempted using Simple Entry a few times and quickly abandoned it. Tom Johnson told me a couple of years ago that the long term plan was to make Simple have an option that would

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-16 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Wed, July 16, 2008 2:16 pm, dhbailey wrote: So whatever happens, I hope that the functionality of Speedy Entry remains (and can be improved upon) even if they wrap it into Simple Entry. I agree. I don't need the little window-frame (which is actually a window-pain), just the keystroke

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-16 Thread Cecil Rigby
Chuck wrote: I am another committed Speedy Entry user who has attempted using Simple Entry a few times and quickly abandoned it. I'm just me tooing . Cecil Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-16 Thread David W. Fenton
On 16 Jul 2008 at 14:16, dhbailey wrote: can't get anywhere near the speed with Simple as I can get with Speedy. For all my major entry projects, I use a MIDI keyboard in Speedy. The only time I've ever used Speedy with the computer keyboard alone for any major work was way back before I had

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-16 Thread Robert Patterson
I am also a Speedy user, but I must say I've seen the Tom Carrathers demo, and he makes a strong case for Simple. These days it is far from simple, and it is very powerful. But I remain a creature of habit. Chuck wrote: I am another committed Speedy Entry user who has attempted using Simple

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-16 Thread Frank Prain
A long-time lurker here - I also have tried Simple Entry, only to get completely bamboozled and lose my temper and immediately revert to Speedy. Probably if I spent some time and looked at the manual I might get my head around it, but why change the habits of years? Frank 2008/7/17 Robert

RE: [Finale] Finale 2009 - what about bugs?

2008-07-15 Thread Fisher, Allen
Plus I see a huge downside risk of poor compatibility with existing files. Such as? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

RE: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-15 Thread Fisher, Allen
Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 I think 2008 still has Speedy Note. I'm surprised they seemed to have dropped Speedy Note Entry from 2009. Didn't Allen Fisher or someone pretty much say they would not? On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:12 AM, mystrom1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As someone who is still using

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-15 Thread Eric Dannewitz
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Eric Dannewitz Sent: Monday, July 14, 2008 11:19 AM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 I think 2008 still has Speedy Note. I'm surprised they seemed to have dropped Speedy Note Entry from 2009. Didn't Allen Fisher or someone pretty much say

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 - what about bugs?

2008-07-15 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Such as if you have a mf you technically put on beat 4, but you dragged it to the first beat in Finale 2007. If you open it in 2009, what will it do? Fisher, Allen wrote: Plus I see a huge downside risk of poor compatibility with existing files. Such as?

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 - what about bugs?

2008-07-15 Thread Robert Patterson
It may do exactly the same thing. All I am saying is, until we have Fin09 in our hands to see what it will do, I am concerned that hidden within the hype may be some backwards steps. On Tue, Jul 15, 2008 at 5:08 PM, Eric Dannewitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Such as if you have a mf you technically

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-15 Thread Ray Horton
Fisher, Allen wrote: Eric-- I'd really like to know who told you that we were dropping Speedy. This FUD has been spread on the public forum as well. I think it's been added to the Barack Obama is a Muslim email. RBH P. S. For anyone else, like myself, who hadn't yet come across FUD

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-14 Thread Bernard Savoie
The transition to 2008 almost fouled me up. I had not upgraded when I was asked to give a Finale course/clinic, and when I finally did open 2008 I was dumbfounded by the amount of changes that were introduced. I couldn't find anything in their usual places. Well, preparing for the course

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-14 Thread mystrom1
As someone who is still using Finale for Mac 2003a, will I still be able to use Speedy Note entry if I switch over to 2008? Martin On 7/14/08, Bernard Savoie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The transition to 2008 almost fouled me up. I had not upgraded when I was asked to give a Finale

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-14 Thread Eric Dannewitz
I think 2008 still has Speedy Note. I'm surprised they seemed to have dropped Speedy Note Entry from 2009. Didn't Allen Fisher or someone pretty much say they would not? On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:12 AM, mystrom1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As someone who is still using Finale for Mac 2003a, will I

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-14 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 12:18 PM 7/14/2008, Eric Dannewitz wrote: I think 2008 still has Speedy Note. It does. I'm surprised they seemed to have dropped Speedy Note Entry from 2009. They have not. It works exactly the same as in 2008. Aaron. ___ Finale mailing list

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-14 Thread Eric Dannewitz
WHEW...Good. On Mon, Jul 14, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Aaron Sherber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 12:18 PM 7/14/2008, Eric Dannewitz wrote: I think 2008 still has Speedy Note. It does. I'm surprised they seemed to have dropped Speedy Note Entry from 2009. They have not. It works exactly the

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-14 Thread Barbara Touburg
Eric Dannewitz wrote: I'm surprised they seemed to have dropped Speedy Note Entry from 2009. Did they really? Then I might not migrate to 2009. ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-14 Thread Barbara Touburg
Aaron Sherber wrote: They have not. It works exactly the same as in 2008. Pfff, that's a relief! ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 - what about bugs?

2008-07-13 Thread Robert Patterson
On Sun, Jul 13, 2008 at 5:12 AM, Johannes Gebauer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On the other hand, the new expressions tool seems so much better, it may well pay for itself. I see where the new expression tool may make learning Finale easier for a newbie, but for an old hand like Johannes, who

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 Announced

2008-07-12 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 11.07.2008 David W. Fenton wrote: But 10.3 is quite dated now. I just don't understand this mentality. According to Wikipedia, Panther was released Oct. 24, 2003, which means it's less than 5 years old. I'm running WinXP on my laptop and Win2K on my desktop, which means that both of my

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-11 Thread Andrew Stiller
- The Mass Edit Tool can no longer be accessed by using the traditional tool palettes. This is a FIX?? Andrew Stiller Kallisti Music Press http://www.kallistimusic.com/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-11 Thread Robert Patterson
Fin08 eliminated the Mass Edit tool entirely. Its functions are now available much of the time in other tools. If you want a baseline equivalent, it might be the Selection Tool. Everything Mass Edit could do is available in the Selection Tool, along with much more. I have quickly come to prefer

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 Announced

2008-07-11 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 11.07.2008 Andrew Stiller wrote: I have Mac OS 10.3, wh. apparently FinMac 09 won't support. Since long, bitter experience has taught me *never* to upgrade an OS, but rather to buy a new computer with the upgraded version already on it, Finale 09, promising though it seems, is definitely

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 Announced

2008-07-11 Thread Robert Patterson
10.3 to 10.4 is painless, unless you need to do file sharing over Ethertalk (highly unlikely). Upgrading to 10.5 is a much bigger step, and I disrecommend it. I use 10.5 exclusively now, but I had to upgrade much of my software to get there. I did upgrade one computer from 10.4, and I found it to

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-11 Thread dhbailey
Andrew Stiller wrote: - The Mass Edit Tool can no longer be accessed by using the traditional tool palettes. This is a FIX?? Yeah, the way a dog which has its gonads removed is fixed. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 Announced

2008-07-11 Thread Dick Hauser
On Jul 11, 2008, at 10:30 AM, Robert Patterson wrote: I did upgrade one computer from 10.4, and I found it to be the most annoying and troublesome upgrade ever foisted on me by Apple. (It was still far easier than major Windows upgrades, though.) My system is not very complex, but I found

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-11 Thread Robert Patterson
Well, actually not like that in any way. The Mass Mover functions have been integrated into the baseline function of the program. It's actually a big improvement. On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 12:51 PM, dhbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, the way a dog which has its gonads removed is fixed.

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 Announced

2008-07-11 Thread J D Thomas
Wow Robert, I had no file sharing trouble in my venture from 10.3 to 10.4. In fact, file sharing is one area that has been trouble-free for me all the way thru OS X. But the upgrade the 10.5 was quite problematic, as yours. I'm convinced mine was due to the gawd-awful Migration

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-11 Thread J D Thomas
Good one David. *** J D Thomas ThomaStudios West Linn OR www.thomastudios.com On Jul 11, 2008, at 10:51 AM, dhbailey wrote: Andrew Stiller wrote: - The Mass Edit Tool can no longer be accessed by using the traditional tool palettes. This is a FIX?? Yeah, the

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 Announced

2008-07-11 Thread David W. Fenton
On 11 Jul 2008 at 19:14, Johannes Gebauer wrote: But 10.3 is quite dated now. I just don't understand this mentality. According to Wikipedia, Panther was released Oct. 24, 2003, which means it's less than 5 years old. I'm running WinXP on my laptop and Win2K on my desktop, which means that

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-11 Thread Jari Williamsson
dhbailey wrote: Andrew Stiller wrote: - The Mass Edit Tool can no longer be accessed by using the traditional tool palettes. This is a FIX?? Yeah, the way a dog which has its gonads removed is fixed. Always nice to see brilliant minds at work. What specific activity would a Mass Edit

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 Announced

2008-07-11 Thread Steve Schow
This has always been the tradeoff between Apple and Microsoft. Microsoft tends to value backwards compatibility, but moves very slowly to evolve their OS and software into superior products, since they are stuck in a quagmire of backwards compatibility. Even the ages old 8086 processor

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-11 Thread dhbailey
Robert Patterson wrote: Well, actually not like that in any way. The Mass Mover functions have been integrated into the baseline function of the program. It's actually a big improvement. On Fri, Jul 11, 2008 at 12:51 PM, dhbailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, the way a dog which has its

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 Announced

2008-07-11 Thread Phil Daley
At 7/11/2008 01:30 PM, Robert Patterson wrote: (It was still far easier than major Windows upgrades, though.) Interesting observation. WinNt4 to Win2000 was mindless, no changes needed. Win2000 to WinXP was mindless, no changes needed. WinXP to Vista is annoying. But Finale 3.7 runs fine on

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-11 Thread dhbailey
Jari Williamsson wrote: dhbailey wrote: Andrew Stiller wrote: - The Mass Edit Tool can no longer be accessed by using the traditional tool palettes. This is a FIX?? Yeah, the way a dog which has its gonads removed is fixed. Always nice to see brilliant minds at work. What specific

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 Announced

2008-07-11 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Hence the mess you have they call vista. On Jul 11, 2008, at 11:34 AM, David W. Fenton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11 Jul 2008 at 19:14, Johannes Gebauer wrote: But 10.3 is quite dated now. I just don't understand this mentality. According to Wikipedia, Panther was released Oct. 24,

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-11 Thread Scott Jones
I simply like the fact that they incorporated several useful commands into the contextual menu (right click/option click on mac) for certain features that most people find useful without having to change tools to get to those commands i.e. multimeasure rests transposition.

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-11 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Fri, July 11, 2008 5:21 pm, Scott Jones wrote: I simply like the fact that they incorporated several useful commands into the contextual menu (right click/option click on mac) for certain features that most people find useful without having to change tools to get to those commands i.e.

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-10 Thread dhbailey
Richard Yates wrote: Looks like Engraver Slurs are finally fixed: Sure if that's what they mean by fine-tuned and improved :-) ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale Haven't they said that about

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-10 Thread dhbailey
Richard Yates wrote: Looks like Engraver Slurs are finally fixed: Sure if that's what they mean by fine-tuned and improved :-) Well, it specifically says edits made at high view percentages always produce the same results when viewed at 100% and when printed, which sure sounds like that

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 Announced

2008-07-10 Thread Cecil Rigby
How many haven't left 2006 yet?!! I might be convinced to upgrade if the Engraver slurs really *do* work now... -Cecil Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Patrick Sheehan asked: Anyone see any features worth working with in '09? How many of you will stay with '08?

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 Announced

2008-07-10 Thread Lora Crighton
Well, I'm still using '06, so it's probably time for me to upgrade. --- Patrick Sheehan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone see any features worth working with in '09? How many of you will stay with '08? Let the discussion begin! Patrick J. M. Sheehan Woodlawn Arts Academy, Instructor,

RE: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-10 Thread Fisher, Allen
Make sure you tell customer support that. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Yates [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2008 02:34 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: RE: [Finale] Finale 2009 I looked further for my own

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 Announced

2008-07-10 Thread Jari Williamsson
Patrick Sheehan wrote: Anyone see any features worth working with in '09? Yes. Best regards, Jari Williamsson ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 Announced

2008-07-10 Thread Lora Crighton
--- Cecil Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many haven't left 2006 yet?!! I might be convinced to upgrade if the Engraver slurs really *do* work now... That's why I'm thinking of ugrading. -Cecil Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] Patrick Sheehan asked: Anyone see any features worth

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 Announced

2008-07-10 Thread Dennis Bathory-Kitsz
On Thu, July 10, 2008 11:05 am, Lora Crighton wrote: --- Cecil Rigby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I might be convinced to upgrade if the Engraver slurs really *do* work now... That's why I'm thinking of ugrading. If other vector features worked, then I'd really pay attention! I'm talking Shape

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 Announced

2008-07-10 Thread Chris Bell
Anyone see any features worth working with in '09? How many of you will stay with '08? Let the discussion begin! I'll upgrade, but keep 2008 working in parallel until I'm comfortable with 09. I use 2008 on a daily basis, both in teaching as well as my personal

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 Announced

2008-07-10 Thread Randolph Peters
Patrick Sheehan queried: Anyone see any features worth working with in '09? Even though I see important functions that don't seem to be addressed (fixing and improving linked parts, for example), this upgrade doesn't seem to have too much added fluff. The improvements in the way we can

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 Announced

2008-07-10 Thread Carolyn Bremer
I saw Tom Carruth demo '09 on Tuesday. He said there were things they still needed to fix with linked parts. Duh. I told him that linked parts weren't useful for most composers and he countered with how useful they were for those using Smart Music. Clearly, that's where the main thrust of

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009 Announced

2008-07-10 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Staying with 2007 thanks Patrick Sheehan wrote: Anyone see any features worth working with in '09? How many of you will stay with '08? Let the discussion begin! Patrick J. M. Sheehan Woodlawn Arts Academy, Instructor, Music Director Centennial Auditorium, Music Director Conductor

{Fraud?} {Disarmed} Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-09 Thread Eric Dannewitz
Damn, looks like I'm still going to be sticking with 2007 On Wed, Jul 9, 2008 at 10:26 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: For all those who have been waiting and wondering, the details are posted for Finale 2009. Here's the link: http://www.finalemusic.com/Finale/New.aspx Vince

Re: [Finale] Finale 2009

2008-07-09 Thread dhbailey
I don't see anything compelling to make me want to upgrade -- this'll be the first upgrade since I started using Finale (version 3.5) that I won't be buying, unless someone can make strong arguments about what has really been improved over 2008 other than the Garritan playback. David H.

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