On Aug 4, 2008, at 2:21 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
FORTY part choral piece ...? My curiosity is piqued ... what is it?
Presumably the famous (and very good) Spem in alium nunquam habui of
Thomas Tallis. I'm not sure how you could transcribe it for band
without losing the stereo effects
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On Aug 4, 2008, at 2:21 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
FORTY part choral piece ...? My curiosity is piqued ... what
Without revealing too much, I'm thinking in of breaking the band into 8
choirs with semi-antiphonal seating around the stage and front of the
hall as well as a good deal of pitched percussion (including handbells)
to vary the sound of each choir. Like I said, I'm planning but have no
group to
FORTY part choral piece ...? My curiosity is piqued ... what is it?
Presumably the famous (and very good) Spem in alium nunquam
habui of Thomas Tallis. I'm not sure how you could transcribe
it for band without losing the stereo effects that make a big
part of its effect. Andrew Stiller
From a guy who has spent 30 years directing marching bands: Ya gotta
be kiddin'!!
RGS
Richard Yates wrote:
FORTY part choral piece ...? My curiosity is piqued ... what is it?
Presumably the famous (and very good) Spem in alium nunquam
habui of Thomas Tallis. I'm not sure how you
At 11:20 PM -0500 8/3/08, Richard Smith wrote:
Just a comment on larger scores. I find a 17 score too long to
handle easily in rehearsal. It hangs over the end of the stand and
sort of droops causing the pages to be difficult to turn.
Clearly some scores really need the extra length, but I
No, John, he means letter size. The aspect ratio of a 8.5x11 sheet
is very similar to the aspect ratio of a 11x14 sheet, which makes it
possible to format for the larger size, but print a study score at
the smaller size when necessary, using fit to page. I often do this
for grant
On Aug 4, 2008, at 12:41 PM, John Howell wrote:
At 11:20 PM -0500 8/3/08, Richard Smith wrote:
Just a comment on larger scores. I find a 17 score too long to
handle easily in rehearsal. It hangs over the end of the stand and
sort of droops causing the pages to be difficult to turn.
At 12:41 PM 8/4/2008, John Howell wrote:
Hi, Richard. Do you mean legal size? 8.5 x 14? A double spread
in that case would be 14 x 17, not 11 x 14. Or maybe I'm just
confused.
I think Richard is talking about an 11x14 page size, not spread size.
This is what I use for most of my large
No I mean 11x14. Like I said, it's not a standard print size (although
I have seen music printed in that size) but it is a standard photograph
size. And could easily be produced at any local copy shop or from a wide
format printer.
For those that don't know, photographers and printers speak
On 4 Aug 2008, at 12:58 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote:
But in a pinch, an 11x14 score will fit adequately on two regular
stands put side by side
11x14 scores fit just fine on a single regular Manhasset stand! I
never need two stands.
Cheers,
- Darcy
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At 01:43 PM 8/4/2008, Darcy James Argue wrote:
On 4 Aug 2008, at 12:58 PM, Aaron Sherber wrote:
But in a pinch, an 11x14 score will fit adequately on two regular
stands put side by side
11x14 scores fit just fine on a single regular Manhasset stand! I
never need two stands.
Okay, now
Hi Aaron,
I was thinking in concert. In rehearsal, I use a second stand for
rehearsal notes and schedule, but I have it off to my right (less
distracting that way), not flush with the music.
Cheers,
- Darcy
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On 4 Aug 2008, at 1:57 PM, Aaron Sherber
Yeah, me too, if the front and back of the score is made of stiffer
(e.g., card stock) so the top doesn't flop over the edge of the
Manhasset. Now the only issue is attempting to see the score through
one of the options in my tri-focal lenses ... but that's another
whole problem you
FORTY part choral piece ...? My curiosity is piqued ... what is it?
Dean
On Aug 4, 2008, at 10:34 AM, Richard Smith wrote:
(snip)
wind band transcription of a 40 part choral piece,
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Dean M.
I'm guessing, Spem in alium nunquam habui, by Thomas Tallis, written
for eight 5-part antiphonal choirs? I played a brass version of this
when I was in university.
Christopher
On Aug 4, 2008, at 2:21 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
FORTY part choral piece ...? My curiosity is piqued ...
I'm guessing he's talking about
Thomas Tallis 'Spem in Alium'
On Aug 4, 2008, at 1:21 PM, Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
FORTY part choral piece ...? My curiosity is piqued ... what is it?
Dean
On Aug 4, 2008, at 10:34 AM, Richard Smith wrote:
(snip)
wind band transcription of a 40 part choral
There's only one that I know of, but I'm blanking on the composer.
(Tallis? English, at least, and composed for eight 5-part choirs to
be performed in a specific octagonal building. Acoustic surround
sound!) I've never studied it, since I've never had the forces to
attempt doing it! I do
Dean M. Estabrook wrote:
FORTY part choral piece ...? My curiosity is piqued ... what is it?
Can't remember the title, wasn't it by Thomas Tallis?
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Recently a bigger motet was discovered, I believe for 60 parts, it was
miscatalogued in the French National Library.
A fascinating article in Early Music America detailed the
fascinating rediscovery of this piece.
Thanks
Kim
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Spem in Alium (Tallis) is the correct answer. But I say planned because
it's not progressing much and I don't have anyone to play it anyway.
Richard Smith
John Howell wrote:
There's only one that I know of, but I'm blanking on the composer.
(Tallis? English, at least, and composed for
Well, I'm not sure it's too far a journey from the original topic. I
think those involved in music preparation need to be thinking about the
practical realities of rehearsal and performance. In my experience as
both a horn player and a conductor, much music is prepared without
considering the
Can you imagine rehearsing that piece, and giving out instructions
such as, Let me hear a little more of the 28th alto part in bar
44. I'm sure it would be a very clean performance ...:)
Dean
On Aug 4, 2008, at 11:52 AM, Kim Patrick Clow wrote:
Recently a bigger motet was discovered, I
Ah yes, the infamous Spam and aluminum! Thank you ... what a pain
to set something and not have a viable performance.
Dean
On Aug 4, 2008, at 12:19 PM, Richard Smith wrote:
Spem in Alium (Tallis) is the correct answer. But I say planned
because it's not progressing much and I don't have
Alessandro Striggio work for forty voices, but last movement is for 60
voices (recently discovered work by Renaissance composer)
Martin
On 8/4/08, Dean M. Estabrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can you imagine rehearsing that piece, and giving out instructions such as,
Let me hear a little
On Jul 31, 2008, at 7:52 PM, Blake Richardson wrote:
I recently came across the complete handwritten manuscript scores
to the
films ALIEN and ALIENS at the Library of Congress, and in my spare
time I'm
transcribing them into Finale (they not surprisingly won't let you
photocopy
them)
I bind my 17 scores with a 14 binding, but I have it flush against
the bottom of the score and leave the 3 without a binding free at
the top. Any place will do it (but they don't have to in my case now
that I have the Akiles coil binder! Thanks NPC Imaging!) and it is
very convenient.
On Aug 3, 2008, at 5:34 PM, Lee Actor wrote:
I bind my 17 scores with a 14 binding, but I have it flush against
the bottom of the score and leave the 3 without a binding free at
the top. Any place will do it (but they don't have to in my case now
that I have the Akiles coil binder! Thanks NPC
Just a comment on larger scores. I find a 17 score too long to handle
easily in rehearsal. It hangs over the end of the stand and sort of
droops causing the pages to be difficult to turn.
Clearly some scores really need the extra length, but I find 11x14 a
very good option for a larger score.
Rob Deemer wrote:
I agree with the other postings - Kinko's is a ripoff and they'll probably
bind it wrong in any case. My guess is those scores are going to be pretty
thick (as each page would only have 4-6 measures), so they'd have to punch
'em in several passes which only increases the
From: John Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It's entirely possible that the chains--especially Kinko's--would
refuse to handle it because it is copyrighted music. You did realize
that it is copyrighted, right? And that your copying it without
permission is an infringement?
Yes, but neither
From: John Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 15:49:10 -0400
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] Score Binding Question
Are we really talking about donation here, or plain and simple
deposit with LC as part of the copyright process
Blake Richardson wrote:
I recently came across the complete handwritten manuscript scores to the
films ALIEN and ALIENS at the Library of Congress, and in my spare time I'm
transcribing them into Finale (they not surprisingly won't let you photocopy
them) with the goal of printing them out and
J D Thomas wrote:
The problem that can occur when taking a small job to a print shop is
that you are almost always completing with 'big runs' they already have
set up. I had this same issue a few years back whenever I needed an 11
x17 score bound. I always only had 2 or 3 and when I did find
That's a viable solution David, provided you're lucky enough to find a
Mom Pop type outfit. I was never that lucky here in the Portland OR
area. All the binderies I contacted gave me the same song and dance:
we can't really take time away from our current contractual runs to
bind a
, and there's page 36, and the entire thing went
backwards.
Believe it!!
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From: Darcy James Argue [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2008 8:52 PM
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] Score Binding Question
They can also put in two 11
I agree with the other postings - Kinko's is a ripoff and they'll probably
bind it wrong in any case. My guess is those scores are going to be pretty
thick (as each page would only have 4-6 measures), so they'd have to punch
'em in several passes which only increases the chances of a screw-up.
From: John Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2008 22:14:24 -0400
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] Score Binding Question
It's entirely possible that the chains--especially Kinko's--would
refuse to handle it because it is copyrighted music. You did
From: Rob Deemer [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2008 10:38:21 -0400
To: finale@shsu.edu
Subject: Re: [Finale] Score Binding Question
My guess is those scores are going to be pretty
thick (as each page would only have 4-6 measures)
Actually I tend to get more
At 2:53 PM -0400 8/1/08, Blake Richardson wrote:
From: John Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It's entirely possible that the chains--especially Kinko's--would
refuse to handle it because it is copyrighted music. You did realize
that it is copyrighted, right? And that your copying it without
I don't suppose printing in landscape format would work. That would
let you bind the 11-inch side. Or you might bind the top edge and make
a flip score. Or is it I that's being flip? Seriously, talk to a local
bookbinder or commercial printer. It'll cost, but they can probably do
the job.
Horace
They can also put in two 11 combs and trim the extra. But you might
have better luck with this at a proper (non-chain) print shop. Kinkos
and Staples are almost uniformly awful.
Cheers,
- Darcy
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On 31 Jul 2008, at 9:09 PM, Carolyn Bremer wrote:
See if
If cost is not a concern, you can get a bookbinder to make a beautiful
hardcover book from your loose-leaf sheets. Bookbinders get most of
their business from lawyers and libraries, so check with one of those
to find a bookbinder. The last time I had one done it cost about $50,
but that was some
At 9:05 PM -0500 7/31/08, Robert Patterson wrote:
If cost is not a concern, you can get a bookbinder to make a beautiful
hardcover book from your loose-leaf sheets. Bookbinders get most of
their business from lawyers and libraries, so check with one of those
to find a bookbinder. The last time I
The problem that can occur when taking a small job to a print shop is
that you are almost always completing with 'big runs' they already
have set up. I had this same issue a few years back whenever I needed
an 11 x17 score bound. I always only had 2 or 3 and when I did find a
print shop
I went a couple of times to a weird little sweatshop where they did
big printing/binding jobs. I was there because they were listed on the
Plasticoil website as a dealer. A dozen middle-aged women of dubious
immigration status were squinting over piles of books that they were
preparing in a dim
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