Re: [Finale] berlioz notation programme

2007-05-28 Thread shirling & neueweise
et que tu cliques sur n'importe quel titre, tu as ensuite pour chaque titre une ou plusieurs pages en PDF. oui... pas très intéressant... ça ne donne pas vraiment d'idée de ce que le logiciel peut faire. Crissq'ça coule de coolitude! eh ben, tu l'as, l'affaire! m'a't'montrer n'affaire,

Re: [Finale] berlioz notation programme

2007-05-28 Thread shirling & neueweise
There are few major publishers among the list, besides the Centre de musique baroque de Versailles ... On the CMBV's own site, there are hundreds of sample pages available. dennis, où as-tu trouvé les exemples? je n'y trouve rien. -- ** upcoming event, CMBV's editions are set with berlioz

Re: [Finale] berlioz notation programme

2007-05-27 Thread Darcy James Argue
Possibly because one enjoys the staggering diversity of cultures living in close proximity that you see in, e.g., New York City, that is hard to find in a more monolithic culture. I can't afford to be a world traveller, but almost every day I have the opportunity to meet people from all ove

Re: [Finale] berlioz notation programme

2007-05-27 Thread Aaron Rabushka
PROTECTED] http://users.waymark.net/arabushk - Original Message - From: "Dean M. Estabrook" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 7:14 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] berlioz notation programme > I would enjoy seeing a lot of Americans stop trying to be whateve

Re: [Finale] berlioz notation programme

2007-05-27 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
f Of John Howell Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 3:12 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] berlioz notation programme At 8:02 AM -0400 5/27/07, dhbailey wrote: We have an American culture? (said with tongue in cheek) After Johannes' post I was thinking "Gee, I wish we *had* a c

RE: [Finale] berlioz notation programme

2007-05-27 Thread Richard Smith
Richard Smith www.rgsmithmusic.com -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of John Howell Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2007 3:12 PM To: finale@shsu.edu Subject: Re: [Finale] berlioz notation programme At 8:02 AM -0400 5/27/07, dhbailey wrote: > &g

Re: [Finale] berlioz notation programme

2007-05-27 Thread John Howell
At 8:02 AM -0400 5/27/07, dhbailey wrote: We have an American culture? (said with tongue in cheek) After Johannes' post I was thinking "Gee, I wish we *had* a culture which we could protect!" I think it was Gandhi who, when asked about Western Culture, commented that, "It would be a wonder

Re: [Finale] berlioz notation programme

2007-05-27 Thread Christopher Smith
On May 27, 2007, at 8:17 AM, shirling & neueweise wrote: If anybody can define American culture in as succinct a manner as they can define French or German or British culture, I will be amazed. while canada shares a similar cultural-historic background with the US, being, er... "discov

Re: [Finale] berlioz notation programme

2007-05-27 Thread M. Perticone
hello, strange isn't it? in most latin american countries lots of folks think their culture is threatened by the ever growing use of english language. just my 2 cents (of devaluated peso) marcelo > Yeah, well there are lots of folks here who think that American culture > is threatened by the Spa

Re: [Finale] berlioz notation programme

2007-05-27 Thread Robert Patterson
dhbailey wrote: If anybody can define American culture in as succinct a manner as they can define French or German or British culture, I will be amazed. Despite its obvious literary flaws, here is a pretty good attempt: Not like the brazen giant of Greek fame, With conquering limbs astride

Re: [Finale] berlioz notation programme

2007-05-27 Thread shirling & neueweise
If anybody can define American culture in as succinct a manner as they can define French or German or British culture, I will be amazed. while canada shares a similar cultural-historic background with the US, being, er... "discovered" in a similar manner, it is widely known that we canadian

Re: [Finale] berlioz notation programme

2007-05-27 Thread shirling & neueweise
"Courrieler" also makes a much nicer verb than "emailer." actually i've come across "mail" more often than email in france: tu m'envoies un mail. and i don't think i've ever heard courriel used as a verb, usually it's "envoyer un courriel". but yeah it also is almost the same as courrier

Re: [Finale] berlioz notation programme

2007-05-27 Thread dhbailey
Andrew Stiller wrote: I wished we had more politics like in France protecting many hundred years of German culture. Johannes Yeah, well there are lots of folks here who think that American culture is threatened by the Spanish language. I don't think much of that reasoning no matter wher

Re: [Finale] berlioz notation programme

2007-05-27 Thread Darcy James Argue
The French-Canadian word for email -- "courriel" -- is actually very clever (derived from "courrier electronique"). It's certainly a lot more elegant than "le email," which is, I believe, the dominant term in France. "Courrieler" also makes a much nicer verb than "emailer." Québec is usuall

Re: [Finale] berlioz notation programme

2007-05-27 Thread Jonathan Smith
The French may have some unusual words for modern terminology, especially in I.T., but I believe their choice of words used for music in general (solfege, music theory etc.) are very appropriate and make both English and American terminology awkward and clinical. But this is a much older an

Re: [Finale] berlioz notation programme

2007-05-26 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 27.05.2007 Andrew Stiller wrote: Yeah, well there are lots of folks here who think that American culture is threatened by the Spanish language. I don't think much of that reasoning no matter where it comes from. I was almost going to make a cynical comment about American Culture, but I w

Re: [Finale] berlioz notation programme

2007-05-26 Thread Andrew Stiller
On May 26, 2007, at 5:40 PM, shirling & neueweise wrote: At 16:40 -0400 5/25/07, Andrew Stiller wrote: By all accounts it is as good as Finale and Sibelius hey andrew, do you know anyone who has used it who could give some concrete feedback on it, Unfortunately not. I had extended e-m

Re: [Finale] berlioz notation programme

2007-05-26 Thread Andrew Stiller
I wished we had more politics like in France protecting many hundred years of German culture. Johannes Yeah, well there are lots of folks here who think that American culture is threatened by the Spanish language. I don't think much of that reasoning no matter where it comes from. Andr

Re: [Finale] berlioz notation programme

2007-05-26 Thread shirling & neueweise
I wished we had more politics like in France protecting many hundred years of German culture. ABER WAS?!?!?! have the 1909 schoenbergian decrees been recalled? i thought they were good for a millenium. -- shirling & neueweise ... new music publishers mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] :.../ http://

Re: [Finale] berlioz notation programme

2007-05-26 Thread shirling & neueweise
At 16:40 -0400 5/25/07, Andrew Stiller wrote: By all accounts it is as good as Finale and Sibelius hey andrew, do you know anyone who has used it who could give some concrete feedback on it, preferably beyond "gawldarnit, jeezwhiz eh, yuud think them frenchies awda get with it and learn some

Re: [Finale] berlioz notation programme

2007-05-26 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 26.05.2007 Andrew Stiller wrote: The Italian for software is software. The German for software is Software. Do I sense a pattern? Oh, well no: the Spanish for software is programa (how did they ever come up with that?) and the Russian is programma. The French words cheval and chien grew up n

Re: [Finale] berlioz notation programme

2007-05-26 Thread Christopher Smith
On 26-May-07, at 12:17 PM, Andrew Stiller wrote: All of us know that if MakeMusic were to develop a French edition (as IMO it should, Spanish too), it would immediately be denounced as cultural imperialism--as has, for example, Google's world literature project. God forbid the French sho

Re: [Finale] berlioz notation programme

2007-05-26 Thread Aaron Rabushka
er expect it from a horse. Aaron J. Rabushka qui manque toute intention d'offenser par ses/ces plaisenteries! [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://users.waymark.net/arabushk - Original Message - From: "shirling & neueweise" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Saturday, May 26, 20

Re: [Finale] berlioz notation programme

2007-05-26 Thread Andrew Stiller
On May 26, 2007, at 7:02 AM, dhbailey wrote: dc wrote: Andrew Stiller écrit: Put this down as another example of the French wanting to go it alone (words like "logiciel"--for "software"-- are another example of that...) And that's not all!! They also insist on using their own strange words

Re: [Finale] berlioz notation programme

2007-05-26 Thread shirling & neueweise
a hilarious take on the subject: "if you travel to france, let me give you word of a warning... it's like those french, have a different word for everything." Philosophy/Religion/College/Language Steve Martin - A Wild and Crazy Guy -- shirling & neueweise ... new music publishers mailto:[EM

Re: [Finale] berlioz notation programme

2007-05-26 Thread dhbailey
dc wrote: Andrew Stiller écrit: Put this down as another example of the French wanting to go it alone (words like "logiciel"--for "software"-- are another example of that...) And that's not all!! They also insist on using their own strange words for "dog" , "horse", and just about anything.

Re: [Finale] berlioz notation programme

2007-05-26 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
In a message dated 26/05/2007 08:43:24 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: "And that's not all!! They also insist on using their own strange words for "dog" , "horse", and just about anything. Believe it or not, they actually have a whole language of their own! This is utterly

Re: [Finale] berlioz notation programme

2007-05-25 Thread John Howell
At 4:40 PM -0400 5/25/07, Andrew Stiller wrote: On May 25, 2007, at 6:17 AM, shirling & neueweise wrote: does anyone here know anything about this programme? there isn't much info about what it can actually do, or how it compares to finale / sibelius / noteability. http://www.berlioz.tm.

Re: [Finale] berlioz notation programme

2007-05-25 Thread Andrew Stiller
On May 25, 2007, at 6:17 AM, shirling & neueweise wrote: does anyone here know anything about this programme? there isn't much info about what it can actually do, or how it compares to finale / sibelius / noteability. http://www.berlioz.tm.fr All I know about Berlioz is sociological. I