Re: [Finale] clef changes slightly OT

2005-04-15 Thread dhbailey
Darcy James Argue wrote: [snip] To use a real-life example (albeit one involving a different instrument), lots of bluegrass fiddle players don't read any kind of music notation at all, but are nonetheless more capable than most of writing idiomatically for the violin. [snip] Actually they may

Re: [Finale] clef changes slightly OT

2005-04-15 Thread Carl Donsbach
I couldn't agree more. It's as preposterous as telling someone they shouldn't try to speak a given language because they haven't developed their handwriting skills. My only argument is that he should do it himself because that is the best way to learn the craft. BTW, though I don't think of

Re: [Finale] clef changes slightly OT

2005-04-15 Thread Darcy James Argue
On 15 Apr 2005, at 5:55 AM, dhbailey wrote: Darcy James Argue wrote: To use a real-life example (albeit one involving a different instrument), lots of bluegrass fiddle players don't read any kind of music notation at all, but are nonetheless more capable than most of writing idiomatically for

Re: [Finale] clef changes slightly OT

2005-04-15 Thread John Howell
At 11:18 AM -0400 4/15/05, Darcy James Argue wrote: Are you saying you make a distinction between composing music and writing music? Semantics, nothing more. Some people, at some times, do use them interchangeably, yes, but probably shouldn't. Writing down, as you say in your next sentence,

Re: [Finale] clef changes slightly OT

2005-04-15 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
In a message dated 15/04/2005 20:18:25 GMT Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Mozart composed the C Minor Mass, but never quite finished writing it down. This blurred distinction in terminology between composing and writing should not be abandoned - from this comes the horn player's

Re: [Finale] clef changes slightly OT

2005-04-15 Thread David W. Fenton
On 15 Apr 2005 at 5:55, dhbailey wrote: And that I think was the thrust of comments made about the viola-composer-who-doesn't-read-alto-clef -- making up music that sounds great on an instrument is fine, but is it really considered writing for that instrument? Well, I can't speak for anyone

Re: [Finale] clef changes

2005-04-14 Thread John Howell
At 8:02 PM -0700 4/13/05, Ryan Beard wrote: Hi folks, I'd be interested in getting some opinions regarding clef changes. And, if any violists are out there, I'd love to hear how you feel about reading in treble clef for extended periods of time. Well, here's personal opinion from one violist.

RE: [Finale] clef changes slightly OT

2005-04-14 Thread Williams, Jim
RYAN WROTEA few here have said that the composer I work with shouldn't compose a piece for viola because he's not comfortable writing in the alto clef. How preposterous! Ryan-one of the reasons I rarely post here any more is that there are so

Re: [Finale] clef changes slightly OT

2005-04-14 Thread David W. Fenton
On 14 Apr 2005 at 15:23, Ryan Beard wrote: In my composer's case, he hasn't had much of an opportunity to write for viola. Now, his violist friends who have heard his other compositions want a viola sonata from him. He wrote in treble clef because it's faster for him to get his ideas down.

Re: [Finale] clef changes

2005-04-14 Thread Mark D Lew
On Apr 14, 2005, at 6:07 AM, John Howell wrote: If I got a piece of music with treble clef down to open C, it would go in the trash. I wouldn't bother spending time on it. In fact if this composer is that unfamiliar with viola, I wonder whether the music that comes out would be WORTH spending

Re: [Finale] clef changes

2005-04-14 Thread Guy Hayden
As a frequent violist I wish to comment on this. Only use the treble clef if it is necessary to shift into third position or higher. Unlike the violin, a great deal of the viola orchestral literature can be played in first position. However, playing above fourth space E in the treble clef

Re: [Finale] clef changes

2005-04-13 Thread James Bailey
In my experience, Violists don¹t mind treble clef so much as they mind having to change clefs often. It¹s a real pain to switch one's thinking for four measures just to avoid a couple of ledger lines. Your general rule is a pretty good one. If I¹m seeing four or more ledger lines for four