[Finale] Music Spacing Problem
[Finale 2002] I have a passage with some very short notes at the end of the bar, which Finale will not space out adequately (using note spacing the notes get squashed, time-sig and beat spacing are too wide). I can fix this problem by increasing the minimum size of the measure in document settings, but this results in other parts of the work being unnecessarily widely spaced. Working with individual note positions does not work either, since the short notes at the end of the bar quickly end up in the next bar. Combining this with dragging the bar-line again fails to have all the components in the correct relative positions. Is there a solution? Regards, Michael Lawlor mail2web.com What can On Demand Business Solutions do for you? http://link.mail2web.com/Business/SharePoint ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: OT Micro$oft Word [was: Re: [Finale] OT A brief heads-up]
At 9:05 AM -0400 9/17/07, David W. Fenton wrote:
But a journal accepting submissings for publication has to be more
versatile in what it can accept,
But, if they have acceptance standards, why can they not enforce them?
To put it in very Victorian terms: If their standards say that they
accept only typewritten copy, should they accept hand-written script
on a pack of envelopes?
since many times the end users of Microsoft products are not
actually aware of the document format
issues involved.
I think somebody could feel insulted by that.
It's probably just end users of Microsoft products who are not
actually aware, so I guess it's not something I should worry about.
why shouldn't they also accept the new MS Word format?
Because it impairs their workflow and they find the new format unnecessary?
To allow .docx would require them to change their workflow. That's
an expensive choice when the option is to merely disallow .docx.
It doesn't necessarily change their workflow.
Their workflow does not incorporate .docx.
To incorporate .docx in their workflow would change their workflow by
adding translators and/or other programs.
How does the inclusion of .docx not necessarily change their workflow?
Without a _full_ description it _cannot_ become an international standard.
I haven't followed the details, but I thought the objectsion were
not to the documentation but to the capabilities of it (or maybe the
implementation details).
Microsoft has posited .docx as an international standard.
To be accepted as an international standard any submission must be
entirely transparent: It's documentation must totally, fully and
completely describe it.
The .docx submission did not pass this test.
IMHO that seems totally imbecilic on Microsoft's part. ISO
recognition and recommendation is too important to flub.
The only conclusion I can draw is that Microsoft doesn't fully
understand the format themselves.
(Or that they are playing a typical Microsoft game and trying to
sneak through a standard that others won't be able to fully
replicate, so that they can use some obscure hooks in it with the
next generation of their OS and programs.)
Huh. I have assisted with two different academic music journals and
neither of them was automated at all.
You might want to check out JOSA (a/b), JAMA, APS (Phys. Rev. A..E,
etc.), Nature, Science, Physics Today, etc.
They are extremely automated in their journal production.
Normal human beings don't need to deal with extraneous hassles for
which they see no benefit.
Which is exactly why the journals should accept docx, so that those
submitting articles don't need to worry about it.
Thus the supplicant should be exempted from the rules of the master?
The *.docx format serves a completely different purpose than PDF
That is not my interpretation of Microsoft's repeated assertions.
MS has a completely different portable document format whose name I forget.
I'd appreciate knowing it.
To the best of my knowledge .docx was the format that would knock
Adobe off it's pedestal and conquer the world as the Great New
Document Language...
It's called XPS (i.e., XML Paper Specification). See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XML_Paper_Specification
I had never heard of it before.
I do like the header notation from Wikipedia:
quote
This article or section is written like an advertisement.
Please help rewrite this article from a neutral point of view.
Mark blatant advertising for speedy deletion, using {{db-spam}}.
/quote
Regardless, what I have repeatedly read in the trade press is that
Microsoft was positioning .docx as the undoing of PDF.
Since .docx is XML and XPS is an XML Paper Specification and .docx
is a paper specification it looks to me like this is just a new PR
wrapper around .docx to rename it XPS.
And, as I said, it serves a completely different purpose than docx
and all the other Office file formats -- it's a page description
format for portability, not a data storage format specific to
specific applications.
That is contrary to what I've read in the press:
Microsoft was promoting .docx as a self-contained and portable
alternative to PDF. Now it is (apparently, though not vociferously)
promoting XPS, but I see no difference other than the name.
And all that said, PDF is not an open format, either. It was easy to
reverse engineer, precisely because PostScript is a plain-text
page-description language, but it is no more an ISO standard than
docx.
PDF has been fully described..
Adobe first published the complete PDF specification for use without
restriction in 1993
See: http://www.adobe.com/pdf/release_pdf_faq.html
Is it an ISO standard?
Yes.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF/A
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PDF/X
Best wishes,
-=-Dennis
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Re: [Finale] Music Spacing Problem
On Sep 20, 2007, at 4:01 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Finale 2002] I have a passage with some very short notes at the end of the bar, which Finale will not space out adequately (using note spacing the notes get squashed, time-sig and beat spacing are too wide). I can fix this problem by increasing the minimum size of the measure in document settings, but this results in other parts of the work being unnecessarily widely spaced. Huh? That should only keep measures with only a whole note or a pickup in them from being too wide. Note spacing is supposed to work. Try updating layout manually after you respace (you don't specify PC or Mac, so you will have to find it in the menu rather than use the very useful keyboard shortcut, which is different on Windows and Mac). Working with individual note positions does not work either, since the short notes at the end of the bar quickly end up in the next bar. Huh again? How does that happen? Unless you have too many notes in the bar? Combining this with dragging the bar-line again fails to have all the components in the correct relative positions. Is there a solution? I confess I am having trouble understanding the problem. Send me the file privately (NOT to the list) and I will take a look for you. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Unexpected Quit on Start
Dick Hauser / 07.9.19 / 9:55 PM wrote: Of course, it follows with 25 or 30 threads of similar looking stuff, all of which means nothing to me. But that's where the clue is. The address error doesn't mean nothing in crash log. Scroll down, and find where it sez: Thread n Crashed: Copy that thread block and post here. -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] uncommon tuplet
David W. Fenton / 07.9.19 / 4:09 PM wrote: I don't think that's entirely true. Finale 97 saw the final switch to Win32 and the adoption by Coda of Microsoft development tools. That required a complete rewrite of the codebase, at least that's what I got from the things our good friend Randy Stokes told us at the time. Rewriting and redesigning are two different things tho. Every time OS evolves, developers have to port one way or the other. Abstract are still the same. While MM! seems to know backward compatibility is one of the most popular request, they don't seems to be able to do it unless Finale is redesigned from ground up. -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] mirroring behaviour
I am having problems in 2k7 mirroring passages using the method to shift-option-click on the target measure. This doesn't work with mirroring, it seems, and I am now remembering there was a bug somewhere. Can someone tell me what the workaround was? Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] mirroring behaviour
On 20.09.2007 Johannes Gebauer wrote: I am having problems in 2k7 mirroring passages using the method to shift-option-click on the target measure. This doesn't work with mirroring, it seems, and I am now remembering there was a bug somewhere. Can someone tell me what the workaround was? Actually, it does work after all, only the items to copy dialog comes up, which is a little confusing, since I don't think it does anythign in this context. Johannes -- http://www.musikmanufaktur.com http://www.camerata-berolinensis.de ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
[Finale] Somewhat OT - Scanner Recommendations
Today I reached my limit with my POS Microtek scanner and threw it out, in pieces. I've been wanting a better scanner for some time and now I'm there. So, to the collective wisdom of this list, what are some of your recommendations on scanners? I'm on a Mac, and I'd like to be able to use Firewire, USB in a pinch. I don't really need anything larger than letter, but would consider legal capability if it happened to have it. One concern is the software, but in my experience all the bundled software with scanners is crap. I'll be scanning everything from photos to music and everything in between. All advice is appreciated. Thanks. J D Thomas ThomaStudios ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Somewhat OT - Scanner Recommendations
Virtually all scanners are USB 2.0 now. There just aren't very many FireWire scanners out there. The Epson Perfection V200 Photo is a very good inexpensive scanner. The bundled dust removal software actually works quite well. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY On 20 Sep 2007, at 1:44 PM, ThomaStudios wrote: Today I reached my limit with my POS Microtek scanner and threw it out, in pieces. I've been wanting a better scanner for some time and now I'm there. So, to the collective wisdom of this list, what are some of your recommendations on scanners? I'm on a Mac, and I'd like to be able to use Firewire, USB in a pinch. I don't really need anything larger than letter, but would consider legal capability if it happened to have it. One concern is the software, but in my experience all the bundled software with scanners is crap. I'll be scanning everything from photos to music and everything in between. All advice is appreciated. Thanks. J D Thomas ThomaStudios ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Somewhat OT - Scanner Recommendations
ThomaStudios / 07.9.20 / 1:44 PM wrote: So, to the collective wisdom of this list, what are some of your recommendations on scanners? I am no scanner expert, but I always buy/recommend HP scanners, dedicated one instead of all-in-one, and never been disappointed. Their service is quite impressive if something goes wrong. I like HP, not to mention my ancient 5MP is still kicking hard :-) -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Time Signature Issue
Sorry it's taken me so long to respond on this. But today I realized, quite by accident, that every time I attempted to change the time signature on the recalcitrant measure, it was actually changing the 4th measure way back at the beginning, even tho I was selecting the 56th measure. Hmm. I set Finale to display actual rather than defined measure numbers, and eureka!!, back in business. This piece has many, many measure number regions out of necessity. Another bug perhaps?? J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Sep 17, 2007, at 3:48 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: On Sep 17, 2007, at 6:17 PM, ThomaStudios wrote: I'm working in a Fin2K7 Mac file that I've been working with for several months. It was created in 2K7. I've had this problem before and can't remember how I've gotten around it: working in the score, I have a measure that steadfastly refuses to allow me to change the time signature. It's 3/2 now and every time I change it, it STAYS 3/2, no change. Anyone come across this and come up with a solution/workaround? Yes, I have seen this. It appears to be garden-variety file corruption, of which we are seeing a lot more since 2007. Sometimes I can change the three measures surrounding the problem measure, then change the one before back again. Sometimes the right- click doesn't work and I have to go to the menu; other times the menu doesn't work and the right-click is the only thing that works. File Maintenance is supposed to diagnose these problems, but on my system it never works, nor does Check Fonts. If the worst happens, I can copy the contents to a fresh document and usually the problem does not copy along with the contents. I always miss some things, though, and have to go back and put in some things like double bars. Staff Styles seem to copy inconsistently, too. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] uncommon tuplet
On 20 Sep 2007 at 12:09, A-NO-NE Music wrote: David W. Fenton / 07.9.19 / 4:09 PM wrote: I don't think that's entirely true. Finale 97 saw the final switch to Win32 and the adoption by Coda of Microsoft development tools. That required a complete rewrite of the codebase, at least that's what I got from the things our good friend Randy Stokes told us at the time. Rewriting and redesigning are two different things tho. Every time OS evolves, developers have to port one way or the other. Abstract are still the same. Yes, but the Finale 97 rewrite was a situation where they completely changed their method of managing the two codebases for Mac and Windows. That was when the priority went from Mac first to Windows first, because the development tools changed so drastically. That has an effect on the end product that can be pretty fundamental. While MM! seems to know backward compatibility is one of the most popular request, they don't seems to be able to do it unless Finale is redesigned from ground up. It wouldn't really be of benefit to me, personally, but I think it would be useful. However, with the Dolet plugin, I just don't see why MM should spend time on this, since that more and more makes it possible to reasonably use files in earlier versions of Finale. In other words, in a perfect world, yes, SAVE AS older version should be there. In a practical world, at least we've got *some* method, and one that is maintained by someone outside of MM so that developing it doesn't take time away from fixing the rest of Finale. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Somewhat OT - Scanner Recommendations
Thanks Hiro (and Darcy), After I posted the message I came to realize the USB is just fine for my needs. Hiro, I was looking at HP's site earlier, and some of their mid-range models do look interesting. And you're right. Every HP printer I've had has been a tank, and the output has always been spectacular. Thanks for the advice, guys. JD J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Sep 20, 2007, at 11:38 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote: ThomaStudios / 07.9.20 / 1:44 PM wrote: So, to the collective wisdom of this list, what are some of your recommendations on scanners? I am no scanner expert, but I always buy/recommend HP scanners, dedicated one instead of all-in-one, and never been disappointed. Their service is quite impressive if something goes wrong. I like HP, not to mention my ancient 5MP is still kicking hard :-) -- - Hiro Hiroaki Honshuku, A-NO-NE Music, Boston, MA http://a-no-ne.com http://anonemusic.com ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: OT Micro$oft Word [was: Re: [Finale] OT A brief heads-up]
On 20 Sep 2007 at 4:42, Dennis W. Manasco wrote: At 9:05 AM -0400 9/17/07, David W. Fenton wrote: But a journal accepting submissings for publication has to be more versatile in what it can accept, But, if they have acceptance standards, why can they not enforce them? A red herring. I'm not even beginning to suggest that they have no rights to set their own format standards. I'm only questioning the logic behind accepting DOC but not DOCX. To put it in very Victorian terms: If their standards say that they accept only typewritten copy, should they accept hand-written script on a pack of envelopes? No. But there are good, logical justifications in that example for accepting one and rejecting the other. I don't see any such justifications in the case of DOC vs. DOCX. since many times the end users of Microsoft products are not actually aware of the document format issues involved. I think somebody could feel insulted by that. Look, I make my living as a computer consultant, supporting all kinds of users. I know that many people are completely oblivious to the underpinnings of their software and most can't accomplish anything with the SAVE AS TYPE dropdown. Most don't even know it's there. Indeed, I have clients who have Word documents named document1.doc, document2.doc and so forth. These are *very* smart people in realms outside computer software, but they just don't pay attention to these kinds of things, and I'm not sure they should have to. It's probably just end users of Microsoft products who are not actually aware, so I guess it's not something I should worry about. Er, we're talking about a problem that is specific to Microsoft products, i.e., the new file format, so I don't think it's odd to restrict the comments about making those users do something special to the users of MS products. why shouldn't they also accept the new MS Word format? Because it impairs their workflow and they find the new format unnecessary? It oughtn't do the former, and the fact is that the latter is irrelevant, as by choosing to accept MS document formats, they put themselves under MS's control in regard to changes MS makes in those formats. To allow .docx would require them to change their workflow. That's an expensive choice when the option is to merely disallow .docx. It doesn't necessarily change their workflow. Their workflow does not incorporate .docx. Oh, come on -- they buy a copy of Office 2007 or install the converters in whatever version of Word they have and convert to whatever format is needed by their publishing software. To incorporate .docx in their workflow would change their workflow by adding translators and/or other programs. It could add a whole 2 minutes to the process! How does the inclusion of .docx not necessarily change their workflow? How does it change it in any significant way? Once you're accepting a proprietary format, you've ceded control to the company that owns that format. Accepting DOC means MS controls what you're going to get, and when MS introduces DOCX that means you should adapt. My bet is that 3 years from now, all these organizations rejecting DOCX will reverse themselves. Without a _full_ description it _cannot_ become an international standard. I haven't followed the details, but I thought the objectsion were not to the documentation but to the capabilities of it (or maybe the implementation details). Microsoft has posited .docx as an international standard. Yes. So what? To be accepted as an international standard any submission must be entirely transparent: It's documentation must totally, fully and completely describe it. The .docx submission did not pass this test. And all of this is completely irrelevant to the discussion, as DOC is not an ISO standard. IMHO that seems totally imbecilic on Microsoft's part. ISO recognition and recommendation is too important to flub. The only conclusion I can draw is that Microsoft doesn't fully understand the format themselves. (Or that they are playing a typical Microsoft game and trying to sneak through a standard that others won't be able to fully replicate, so that they can use some obscure hooks in it with the next generation of their OS and programs.) While interesting, and debatable, all of this seems completely orthogonal to the discussion I was involved in. Huh. I have assisted with two different academic music journals and neither of them was automated at all. You might want to check out JOSA (a/b), JAMA, APS (Phys. Rev. A..E, etc.), Nature, Science, Physics Today, etc. They are extremely automated in their journal production. Even Grove was not automated back in 2000 when I submitted my two articles and assisted in creating the works list for the article on Franz Liszt. Normal human beings don't need to deal with extraneous hassles for which they see no benefit. Which is
Re: OT Micro$oft Word [was: Re: [Finale] OT A brief heads-up]
At 3:43 PM -0400 9/20/07, David W. Fenton wrote: My bet is that they're going to get DOCX submissions anyway, and then spend an inordinate amount of time rejecting those submissions, and, in the case of articles they want to publish, they'll be helping the people convert to DOC, or they'll be converting it themselves. Seems to me like they are making an awful lot of extra work for themselves for not good reason whatsoever (given how easy it is to get Word 2007 or install the converters; and I remind my readers that I excepted math journals, since that's a special case). Since I started this whole debate with what seemed an innocent announcement at the time, might I pull it back to the original problem? My problem is rather simple and does not require knowing how the inside of a computer works. Like some of your clients, I feel that I shouldn't have to know all that. It is simply that I started getting student submissions which I could not open, and it didn't take a whole lot of research to discover why. It is NOT possible to simply get Office 2007, as you have stated. Not if you are on Mac. It isn't available, period. Our IT people say it won't be available until next summer, or perhaps even later, although I've read other estimates claiming that it will ship in January. But it isn't available NOW, and I need to solve my problem NOW. I'm hesitant to download and install a converter that's still in Beta. Is that irrational? (And I mean that as a serious question. Could an incompletely developed converter do any damage to my computer or programs?) And it still seems to be the case that even if converters work for text, they do NOT work for maths or special symbols. And in regard to the journals' refusing to accept .docx submissions, a great many more journals than those specializing in math DO need the ability to accurately represent mathematical statements, including statistics, and special symbols. It's a basic need for scholarly writing in ANY field. So while I'm (sort of) enjoying the discussion, I don't really need or want to know about International Standards or obscure acronyms fighting one another, just how to open and read student papers. Others have different, and perhaps much more important needs. John -- John R. Howell Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Somewhat OT - Scanner Recommendations
I agree with David. HP's scanners are not remotely of the same quality as HP printers. You really want a scanner from a company that takes scanning seriously, like Epson. Cheers, - Darcy - [EMAIL PROTECTED] Brooklyn, NY ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
AW: [Finale] Somewhat OT - Scanner Recommendations
I have a Canon MP830 scanner/printer. It's perfect and fast as scanner and printer. I'm just digitizing everything I use at school, scores, worksheets, lead sheets, and I have never had a better solution (I have had HP, Epson and Canon scanners earlier). It's duplex/duplex - that means it can scan duplex (both sides), it can print duplex and even copy duplex. You can even create PDFs from the machine directly. You can print CDs and print from memory cards, as well. Kurt -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im Auftrag von dc Gesendet: Donnerstag, 20. September 2007 22:31 An: finale@shsu.edu; finale@shsu.edu Betreff: Re: [Finale] Somewhat OT - Scanner Recommendations Darcy James Argue écrit: You really want a scanner from a company that takes scanning seriously, like Epson. Agreed. I have an Epson Perfection that is very good (albeit a bit noisy!). Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: OT Micro$oft Word [was: Re: [Finale] OT A brief heads-up]
On 20 Sep 2007 at 16:14, John Howell wrote: I'm hesitant to download and install a converter that's still in Beta. Is that irrational? Not as a general principle, but in the case of a converter, it should be completely safe, I'd think. -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Somewhat OT - Scanner Recommendations
My sentiments precisely.I have an Epson Perfection that runs like a top == and which replaced an HP which barely ran at all. Go with Epson - anything - rather than HP. Best, Les Les Marsden Founding Music Director and Conductor, The Mariposa Symphony Orchestra Music and Mariposa? Ah, Paradise!!! http://arts-mariposa.org/symphony.html http://www.geocities.com/~jbenz/lesbio.html - Original Message - From: dc To: finale@shsu.edu ; finale@shsu.edu Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [Finale] Somewhat OT - Scanner Recommendations Darcy James Argue écrit: You really want a scanner from a company that takes scanning seriously, like Epson. Agreed. I have an Epson Perfection that is very good (albeit a bit noisy!). Dennis ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Somewhat OT - Scanner Recommendations
Darcy James Argue wrote: I agree with David. HP's scanners are not remotely of the same quality as HP printers. You really want a scanner from a company that takes scanning seriously, like Epson. I have an HP scanner which has worked liked a true warrior for 10 years now and shows no sign of giving up the ghost. It's certainly as rugged a workhorse as my HP2100 printer. I would certainly consider another HP scanner, based on the accuracy of the scans from the one I've got now. I wouldn't buy one blindly, but then I wouldn't buy an Epson scanner blindly either. I'd suggest reading reviews, asking around among people whose computer skills you trust for specific model recommendations. And if the signs all point to an HP scanner as meeting the criteria, buy it. If an Epson seems more to your needs, buy that. Canon is another company to consider. -- David H. Bailey [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Somewhat OT - Scanner Recommendations
On 20 Sep 2007 at 19:25, dhbailey wrote: I have an HP scanner which has worked liked a true warrior for 10 years now and shows no sign of giving up the ghost. It's certainly as rugged a workhorse as my HP2100 printer. My HP scanner is great, too, but it was manufactured before 2000. HP doesn't make the same quality scanners as they did then, by a long shot. It was a great disappointment for me when the clients of mine had such bad luck with HP scanners (and they tried other models, too, and none worked well at all). -- David W. Fentonhttp://dfenton.com David Fenton Associates http://dfenton.com/DFA/ ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: OT Micro$oft Word [was: Re: [Finale] OT A brief heads-up]
At 7:06 PM -0400 9/20/07, David W. Fenton wrote: On 20 Sep 2007 at 16:14, John Howell wrote: I'm hesitant to download and install a converter that's still in Beta. Is that irrational? Not as a general principle, but in the case of a converter, it should be completely safe, I'd think. OK, I downloaded and installed it, thanks to your reassurance. And it did open the first .docx file I fed it, but it's certainly far from transparent. Word itself still wouldn't open the file (MacWord 2004). I had to call up the converter as a separate program, and then drag the file onto its window. Not ideal, certainly, but for the time being at least it makes me functional. And I can definitely see why it would mess up existing work flow to use it this way for large numbers of files (although there is an option to open multiple files). Thanks for your quick and helpful answer. John -- John R. Howell Virginia Tech Department of Music Blacksburg, Virginia, U.S.A 24061-0240 Vox (540) 231-8411 Fax (540) 231-5034 (mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]) http://www.music.vt.edu/faculty/howell/howell.html ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Time Signature Issue
I've seen this bug in 2007. Another way it shows is when you double click a measure in the Measure Tool to add a double bar, and it adds it in two places. THere are other manifestations, but I can't think of another right now. To the best of my knowledge, it is not present in 2008 (one of the few longstanding bugs that isn't!), but I'm off 2008 now, and so won't be seeing it there anyway. Christopher On Sep 20, 2007, at 3:23 PM, ThomaStudios wrote: Sorry it's taken me so long to respond on this. But today I realized, quite by accident, that every time I attempted to change the time signature on the recalcitrant measure, it was actually changing the 4th measure way back at the beginning, even tho I was selecting the 56th measure. Hmm. I set Finale to display actual rather than defined measure numbers, and eureka!!, back in business. This piece has many, many measure number regions out of necessity. Another bug perhaps?? J D Thomas ThomaStudios On Sep 17, 2007, at 3:48 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: On Sep 17, 2007, at 6:17 PM, ThomaStudios wrote: I'm working in a Fin2K7 Mac file that I've been working with for several months. It was created in 2K7. I've had this problem before and can't remember how I've gotten around it: working in the score, I have a measure that steadfastly refuses to allow me to change the time signature. It's 3/2 now and every time I change it, it STAYS 3/2, no change. Anyone come across this and come up with a solution/workaround? ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Unexpected Quit on Start
On Sep 20, 2007, at 1:13 AM, Dick Hauser wrote: On Sep 19, 2007, at 7:52 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: The only time I ever had a bad address error is when I had a bad RAM chip. MemTest is a shareware app that does a great job of detecting bad RAM. I highly recommend it. Barring that, am I right in thinking that you have 2 X 2 GB chips? Try removing one and see if it crashes. Then try the other one. OK, I'll run Mem Test tonight and see what I get. I have 4 1 GB chips (that need to be installed in pairs, I think). That's a different configuration than 2 X 2 GB, right? That's OK. You just will have to test them by removing and replacing them in pairs. You could even mix pairs to track down exactly which chip out of the two is acting up, in fact, you will probably have to do this at some point. Christopher ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
Re: [Finale] Unexpected Quit on Start
On Sep 20, 2007, at 8:49 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: On Sep 20, 2007, at 1:13 AM, Dick Hauser wrote: On Sep 19, 2007, at 7:52 PM, Christopher Smith wrote: The only time I ever had a bad address error is when I had a bad RAM chip. MemTest is a shareware app that does a great job of detecting bad RAM. I highly recommend it. Barring that, am I right in thinking that you have 2 X 2 GB chips? Try removing one and see if it crashes. Then try the other one. OK, I'll run Mem Test tonight and see what I get. I have 4 1 GB chips (that need to be installed in pairs, I think). That's a different configuration than 2 X 2 GB, right? That's OK. You just will have to test them by removing and replacing them in pairs. You could even mix pairs to track down exactly which chip out of the two is acting up, in fact, you will probably have to do this at some point. Thank you again, Christopher. You're right, we may get to that. rember did not find any errors on all the memory (although I didn't run it with the option to turn off the finder - I'll start that tonight). I called MM support. They were fine. Professional, courtious, efficient. We looked at the startup screen and noted that the crash occured when the message initializing midi came up (after the initializing Core Midi) and so started to look at possibilities that something there was amiss. We moved the Plug-in components out of the Library=Audio=Plug-ins=Components folder at the user and system level and still got the crash. We disconnected the midi interface (MOTU Midi Timepeace AV) and still got the crash with and without the plugins. After that, MM asked for a copy of my system profile and promised to study the problem more tomorrow. I did a reinstall just because I had the time and we'd run out of ideas, but still no joy. My bet is that when the tech gets back to me, he'll be on the trail of bad ram as you have suggested. Dick H ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale
