Re: [Finale] RE:2007 crash on Start

2008-06-18 Thread Chuck Israels


On Jun 17, 2008, at 10:36 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:


Dick Hauser / 08.6.15 / 5:00 PM wrote:


And for those keeping
score, 2008 still crashes on start on my system.


My FinMac2008 crashes very often at its start up on both G5 and  
MBP2.4,

and it is caused by corrupted pref file.  I now have a zipped Fin pref
file.  Every time the crash happens, I have to trash the pref and  
unzip

the backup pref file.  It is my routine now.



I have had this problem for so long (2007 and 2008) that I have  
developed my own defensive routine.  I keep a duplicate or two of my  
preference files - Finale 2008 Preferences copy - in the same place  
that Finale keeps the file (User/Library/Preferences).  When Finale  
crashes, I trash the corrupted file and rename one of the copies. (For  
some reason, this cannot be done by removing the word copy; the  
whole name must be retyped.)  Then I duplicate the new Preferences  
file, before opening Finale, to be sure I will have an uncorrupted  
copy when I need it.  That this cumbersome routine continues through 2  
versions does not speak well for the way Finale works with ppc Macs.   
Is the problem cured for the Intel Macs?


Chuck






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Re: [Finale] RE:2007 crash on Start

2008-06-18 Thread A-NO-NE Music
Chuck Israels / 08.6.18 / 9:26 AM wrote:

Is the problem cured for the Intel Macs?

Nope.  My MBP2.4 shows the exact same problem.

Chuck, I think my way is easier.  When I customize pre, I zip it in the
pref directory.  When it pref get corrupted, I trash the original and
unzip the backup on the spot.  You don't need to bother with 'copy' suffix.

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Re: [Finale] RE:2007 crash on Start

2008-06-18 Thread Christopher Smith


On Jun 18, 2008, at 1:36 AM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:


Dick Hauser / 08.6.15 / 5:00 PM wrote:


And for those keeping
score, 2008 still crashes on start on my system.


My FinMac2008 crashes very often at its start up on both G5 and  
MBP2.4,

and it is caused by corrupted pref file.  I now have a zipped Fin pref
file.  Every time the crash happens, I have to trash the pref and  
unzip

the backup pref file.  It is my routine now.

By the way, a while ago I tried to help a few people who are having
FinMac crash on startup at HAL level on MIDI driver.  Later I learned
this is caused by using Migration assistant.  If you used it to copy
over AMS file from your old system, Finale doesn't like it.


What's an AMS file? I noticed I had to trash my Finale preferences  
after I switched computers using Migration Assistant, but everything  
else was fine.


C.



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Re: [Finale] RE:2007 crash on Start

2008-06-18 Thread Christopher Smith


On Jun 18, 2008, at 12:04 PM, A-NO-NE Music wrote:


Christopher Smith / 08.6.18 / 9:21 AM wrote:


What's an AMS file? I noticed I had to trash my Finale preferences
after I switched computers using Migration Assistant, but everything
else was fine.


AMS = Audio MIDI Setup
You will find the config files in ~/Library/Audio/MIDI Configurations.

In my vague memory, the problem hit you only when you migrate from PPC
to Intel.  I never use the assistant so I haven't seen this crash, but
the sign is that the crash.log shows MIDI crash at the hardware  
layer (HAL).


Hmm, when I migrated from my G4 to my Intel Mac, I only had to move  
the authorisation and trash preferences. But I guess that's the joy  
of using Finale; one never knows what kind of problem you are going  
to have that is specific to you and only you! 8-)=)  [big toothy grin]


Right now I am having trouble getting files from 2007 to playback in  
2008. I guess I'll figure it out eventually, but it sure is a pain!


Christopher


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Re: [Finale] RE:2007 crash on Start

2008-06-18 Thread A-NO-NE Music
[EMAIL PROTECTED] / 08.6.18 / 10:33 AM wrote:

 but i can't understand why your versions do crash.

Because you are on Tiger :-)

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Re: [Finale] RE:2007 crash on Start

2008-06-18 Thread chris
gt;gt; but i can't understand why your versions do crash.
gt;
gt;Because you are on Tiger :-)

Ahh, just a paper tiger then . . .  :-)

/ Chris B
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Re: [Finale] RE:2007 crash on Start

2008-06-18 Thread Dick Hauser


On Jun 18, 2008, at 7:33 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

i understand the frustration and aggrevation that your crashes  
creates, but i can't understand why your versions do crash.
has the permissions been repaired? faulty fonts found? used an app  
like Cocktail to clean up the system?

checked weather it might be a faulty au-plug?



When I was futzing with this back in September 07, (Hiro helped alot)  
I went so far as to wipe the disk, and install from scratch.  F2008  
would start until I installed another app (digital performer) which  
routed audio through my PCI card.  Further, I found that if I removed  
MOTUPCIAudio.kext from my system extension folder, Finale would run.   
If I ran installers to put it back (moving copies didn't work for some  
reason) then Finale would crash on start.  Hiro went so far as to test  
on a system he had using a PCI card but could not replicate.  I got  
tired of the guessing game at that point and went back to F2007.





Dick H

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2408 MkII   4  Gig
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[Finale] Times listed as symbol font

2008-06-18 Thread Brian Williams
Hello all,

I've been getting files from a composer using Finale 2008, and whenever I
open them I get the message:

This file was created on a computer whose
MacSymbolFonts.txt file designated Times as a
Symbol font. Would you like to make this change on
your computer? If not, the font will be marked as a
Text font in this document.

Of course, I always click No because why on earth would I want Times to
be a symbol font and not a text font? I've suggested to the composer that he
edit his MacSymbolFonts.txt file to remove Times from the list, but he says
he already tried that and when he did, all of his old documents put up the
warning like it does on my system when opened.

Is there some quick and easy way to globally change a bunch of old documents
so they won't think Times is supposed to be a symbol font?

Thanks for your help,
Brian Williams

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[Finale] WinFin 2008a Rests in Voice 2

2008-06-18 Thread Henry E. Howey
After various pastes between staves, I am findind rests appearing in bars
where the Voice 2 has never been used.

These artifacts can be painstakingly removed, but they are seemingly
something peculiar to 2008. I'm sure there's an obscure button I need to
uncheck. I remain distrustful of the :filters in the EDIT menu;-(

BTW, MAKEMUSIC Support fixed the crashing after pastes by deleting the
finale.ini file.


Henry Howey
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Re: [Finale] WinFin 2008a Rests in Voice 2

2008-06-18 Thread Christopher Smith


On Jun 18, 2008, at 5:16 PM, Henry E. Howey wrote:

After various pastes between staves, I am findind rests appearing  
in bars

where the Voice 2 has never been used.

These artifacts can be painstakingly removed, but they are seemingly
something peculiar to 2008. I'm sure there's an obscure button I  
need to

uncheck. I remain distrustful of the :filters in the EDIT menu;-(

BTW, MAKEMUSIC Support fixed the crashing after pastes by  
deleting the

finale.ini file.


I can't explain the rests, unless you unintentionally copied a bit of  
Layer 2 from an adjacent measure, which is easy enough to do now that  
there is no more Select Partial Measure to turn off  (were you  
talking about Voice 2 or Layer 2? Sometimes I get confused, too.)  
When selecting parts of a passage, I am careful to click IN the  
beginning bar to select the whole bar, then click or shift-click a  
second time where I want the selection to end. At least it STARTS at  
the beginning of the measure correctly then.


But don't be afraid of the filters. They are great. I use them  
extensively and the only  problems I have had are:


1) when copying Measure Attributes they will copy the double barlines  
alright, but NOT the toggle that says Break A Multimeasure Rest, nor  
other attributes other than the barline itself. This causes unbroken  
rests, missing expressions, etc. Now that I know, I work around it,  
but still...


2) When copying Staff Styles between staves, sometimes the style will  
not show up in the linked part until I select All with the Staff Tool  
and choose Reset Staff Styles to Score while in the part.


Christopher


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