Re: [Finale] Clients Requesting Finale Files [lengthy -- Bailey's at it again]

2006-11-14 Thread dhbailey
John Howell wrote: At 6:39 PM -0500 11/13/06, dhbailey wrote: This is an interesting copyright question -- since the Finale file is simply one more representation of the music which the client holds the copyright in, I'm surprised he would assign you a copyright in the file, since you can't

Re: [Finale] Clients Requesting Finale Files

2006-11-14 Thread Mark D Lew
On Nov 13, 2006, at 12:30 PM, Hamilton Greg wrote: I recently had a client ask for the Finale files for many of his chamber works I had prepared. It's typically not my policy to release the original files. I'm wondering what other professional copyist/engravers are doing when faced with the

Re: [Finale] Clients Requesting Finale Files

2006-11-14 Thread Mark D Lew
On Nov 13, 2006, at 3:05 PM, Noel Stoutenburg wrote: Now, what I have done with my clients, is to agree in the contract that the client or his agent or assigns holds contract in the music composition, but that I hold sole copyright in the file, and while I have routinely given him a file of

[Finale] page turns - a puzzlement

2006-11-14 Thread Bob Florence
Hi All: I like to set pages up as a book. If I can have only one page open, that's perfect especially if you are on a very crowded bandstand or in a very crowded orchestra pit. After that I like two pages open. In this case I do a cover page and print the first page of music on it's other

Re: [Finale] page turns - a puzzlement

2006-11-14 Thread Erica Buxbaum
How about including verbal instructions with the parts, like the explanation you just gave here? Erica Buxbaum Bob Florence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All: I like to set pages up as a book. If I can have only one page open, that's perfect especially if you are on a very crowded

Re: [Finale] page turns - a puzzlement

2006-11-14 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 03:23 PM 11/14/2006, Bob Florence wrote: The problem occurs when sending parts (either Finale files or pdfs) to to another location usually a school. They don't even notice the cover page and often players will be scuffling with page turns. How do I make this clear to anyone who is taping

Re: [Finale] Clients Requesting Finale Files

2006-11-14 Thread Ken Moore
John Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But of course a Finale file is not a computer program. Or is it? Undecidable philosophical proposition. If you consider program and data to be clearly defined categories, you're going to hit trouble somewhere. Best to regard them as points of view. A

Re: [Finale] page turns - a puzzlement

2006-11-14 Thread John Howell
At 12:23 PM -0800 11/14/06, Bob Florence wrote: Hi All: I like to set pages up as a book. If I can have only one page open, that's perfect especially if you are on a very crowded bandstand or in a very crowded orchestra pit. After that I like two pages open. In this case I do a cover page

Re: [Finale] page turns - a puzzlement

2006-11-14 Thread Christopher Smith
On Nov 14, 2006, at 3:23 PM, Bob Florence wrote: Hi All: I like to set pages up as a book. If I can have only one page open, that's perfect especially if you are on a very crowded bandstand or in a very crowded orchestra pit. After that I like two pages open. In this case I do a cover

[Finale] Re: E-mailing files...think twice.

2006-11-14 Thread Patrick Sheehan
In regarding e-mailing Finale files, I have one rule: I don't. For your own protection and safety, never e-mail them, no matter how computer savvy or non-savvy the composer or client is. There are many pitfalls as to what can happen to your documents after they've been e-mailed to the next

Re: [Finale] page turns - a puzzlement

2006-11-14 Thread dhbailey
Bob Florence wrote: Hi All: I like to set pages up as a book. If I can have only one page open, that's perfect especially if you are on a very crowded bandstand or in a very crowded orchestra pit. After that I like two pages open. In this case I do a cover page and print the first page of

Re: [Finale] Clients Requesting Finale Files

2006-11-14 Thread dhbailey
Ken Moore wrote: John Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But of course a Finale file is not a computer program. Or is it? Undecidable philosophical proposition. If you consider program and data to be clearly defined categories, you're going to hit trouble somewhere. Best to regard them as

Re: [Finale] Clients Requesting Finale Files

2006-11-14 Thread Noel Stoutenburg
Ken Moore quoted: John Howell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But of course a Finale file is not a computer program. Or is it? Undecidable philosophical proposition. If you consider program and data to be clearly defined categories, you're going to hit trouble somewhere. I believe that this

[Finale] Video files - VERY off topic

2006-11-14 Thread YATESLAWRENCE
Very off topic: I'm trusting that someone on this list will be able to help me with this one. I know that normal audio cd's use WAV files. What is the equivalent video file? What format do video files need to be to be read by a normal DVD player? Thanks, Lawrence

Re: [Finale] Video files - VERY off topic

2006-11-14 Thread Kim Patrick Clow
On 11/14/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What format do video files need to be to be read by a normal DVD player? VOB is the file format Kim -- Kim Patrick Clow There's really only two types of music: good and bad. ~ Rossini ___

Re: [Finale] page turns - a puzzlement

2006-11-14 Thread Bob Florence
Erica Buxbaum wrote: How about including verbal instructions with the parts, like the explanation you just gave here? Erica Buxbaum Thank you Erica: If my problem was clear to you then I guess that's what I'll have to do. BF Bob Florence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi All: I like to

Re: [Finale] page turns - a puzzlement

2006-11-14 Thread Bob Florence
John Howell wrote: At 12:23 PM -0800 11/14/06, Bob Florence wrote: Hi All: I like to set pages up as a book. If I can have only one page open, that's perfect especially if you are on a very crowded bandstand or in a very crowded orchestra pit. After that I like two pages open. In this case

Re: [Finale] Video files - VERY off topic

2006-11-14 Thread Aaron Sherber
At 04:59 PM 11/14/2006, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that normal audio cd's use WAV files. Technically, this is not true. A CD burned with WAV files will be a data CD and will generally only be readable by computer drives, not standalone CD players. It is true that when you rip a CD to your

Re: [Finale] Clients Requesting Finale Files

2006-11-14 Thread Andrew Stiller
On Nov 13, 2006, at 3:30 PM, Hamilton Greg wrote: I recently had a client ask for the Finale files for many of his chamber works I had prepared. It's typically not my policy to release the original files. I'm wondering what other professional copyist/engravers are doing when faced with the

[Finale] Copyright Issue

2006-11-14 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
If I choose to arrange a Renaissance piece that I dig out of the HAM (Harvard Anthology of Music), Can I be fairly certain that it is in public domain? If not, how does one find out that status? Dean Dean M. Estabrook [EMAIL PROTECTED] Have you ever heard of an eleven or thirteen step

Re: [Finale] page turns - a puzzlement

2006-11-14 Thread Bob Florence
Christopher Smith wrote: Now I provide booklets rather than accordian folds when I get over 4 pages, and I NEVER let anyone else tape my charts unless I know they will do it properly. Christopher One more thing: I've never done booklets. How do I do it? When I do a concert, I send

[Finale] dog house

2006-11-14 Thread Bob Florence
Hi all; Please forgive my last 2 posts. They were meant for Christopher Smith. I trust you all had a goos laugh. Bob Florence ___ Finale mailing list Finale@shsu.edu http://lists.shsu.edu/mailman/listinfo/finale

Re: [Finale] dog house

2006-11-14 Thread Christopher Smith
On Nov 14, 2006, at 5:55 PM, Bob Florence wrote: Hi all; Please forgive my last 2 posts. They were meant for Christopher Smith. I trust you all had a goos laugh. Actually, the one meant for the list went to the list, and the one for me came to me. All is well! Christopher

Re: [Finale] page turns - a puzzlement

2006-11-14 Thread Christopher Smith
On Nov 14, 2006, at 5:41 PM, Bob Florence wrote: Christopher Smith wrote: Now I provide booklets rather than accordian folds when I get over 4 pages, and I NEVER let anyone else tape my charts unless I know they will do it properly. Christopher One more thing: I've never done

Re: [Finale] Copyright Issue

2006-11-14 Thread dhbailey
Dean M. Estabrook wrote: If I choose to arrange a Renaissance piece that I dig out of the HAM (Harvard Anthology of Music), Can I be fairly certain that it is in public domain? If not, how does one find out that status? The HAM is copyrighted, renewed in 1974 by Alice Humez and Willi Apel.

Re: [Finale] Copyright Issue

2006-11-14 Thread Dean M. Estabrook
H ... very interesting. Somehow, I knew it would be more complex than I thought. Realistically (which, I realize, has nothing to do with legal workings), just because they found a raft of literature in some previously printed format, obviously, and compiled it in their volume,

Re: [Finale] page turns - a puzzlement

2006-11-14 Thread Chuck Israels
On Nov 14, 2006, at 2:41 PM, Bob Florence wrote: Christopher Smith wrote: Now I provide booklets rather than accordian folds when I get over 4 pages, and I NEVER let anyone else tape my charts unless I know they will do it properly. Christopher One more thing: I've never done

Re: [Finale] Copyright Issue

2006-11-14 Thread John Howell
At 2:42 PM -0800 11/14/06, Dean M. Estabrook wrote: If I choose to arrange a Renaissance piece that I dig out of the HAM (Harvard Anthology of Music), Can I be fairly certain that it is in public domain? If not, how does one find out that status? This is a problem. The originals are PD, no

Re: [Finale] dog house

2006-11-14 Thread Mariposa Symphony Orchestra
Well! Nothing like a good goose to provoke laughter Best, Les Les Marsden Founding Music Director and Conductor, The Mariposa Symphony Orchestra Music and Mariposa? Ah, Paradise!!! http://arts-mariposa.org/symphony.html http://www.sierratel.com/mcf/nprc/mso.htm

Re: [Finale] page turns - a puzzlement

2006-11-14 Thread David W. Fenton
On 14 Nov 2006 at 16:30, Christopher Smith wrote: You could also include an instruction sheet when sending charts. Players being what they are (I know, I don't understand it either), they will often unfold 15-page parts completely, letting them drape over the stand and sliding them along

Re: [Finale] Clients Requesting Finale Files

2006-11-14 Thread David W. Fenton
On 14 Nov 2006 at 10:13, Mark D Lew wrote: By default, under American law, the copyright of any work for hire falls to the one who is hiring. If a client hires you to write something, the resulting product belongs to him unless both parties agree otherwise. Er, no, I think that's wrong.

Re: [Finale] Clients Requesting Finale Files

2006-11-14 Thread Mark D Lew
On Nov 14, 2006, at 5:29 PM, David W. Fenton wrote: Er, no, I think that's wrong. Work for hire is only work for hire if the contract explicitly specifies that it is. Otherwise, the creator owns the copyright. The exception is if you're an employee of a company and create the content as part of

Re: [Finale] Request different view

2006-11-14 Thread Mark D Lew
On Nov 13, 2006, at 5:08 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is an interesting discussion! I almost hired a person on the list who clearly is not on the same page as I, the composer. Then this list has served a good purpose: helping to make sure that you hired someone who is a good match

Re: [Finale] Video files - VERY off topic

2006-11-14 Thread VivianAR
In a message dated 11/14/06 5:02:46 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I know that normal audio cd's use WAV files. No, on the Mac we use AIFF files. Vivian Vivian Adelberg Rudow New: 20th ASCAP Plus Award CALL FOR PEACE, flute and tape, performance An Die Musik, Baltimore Composers Forum,

Re: [Finale] Video files - VERY off topic

2006-11-14 Thread Johannes Gebauer
On 14.11.2006 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that normal audio cd's use WAV files. This is not correct. Audio CDs have a special format, which doesn't use files at all. Although Wavs can store the same audio data, so can AIFFs and SD2 files, and what is on the Audio CD is totally